You gotta rack me, bro. w/Erika

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The following is from Ghost Coast Studios, the world's first and only podcast network. This is the backlash to the fascist dictatorship Nature Boy's trans. Now. You can't. A nostalgia act. That's as good of a note to start on. Welcome back to Monday Night Fake Fights, where I, Garrick Taylor, she. They am doing a nostalgia act. It's outrunners. It's a re watch of the Monday Night wars, making it your problem. This week's esteemed victim is another three. Pete. I keep bringing them back. One of my five Horsemen. [00:00:50] Speaker B: It's Erica. Hi. Three time. Three times. Three time. Yes. If we get to five time, then probably something's gone horribly wrong. [00:01:01] Speaker A: No, no. Now you got it. Just for that bit. You did it. You're the. You're the third three people. The first one to take the obvious path of doing the Booker T. I don't know why any. No one thought of doing the Ric Flair Booker T. Three times. Three times. Three time. Yet. [00:01:18] Speaker B: I mean, what can I say? I'm so original, you know? [00:01:20] Speaker A: No, you're. You're. You're whatever the opposite of an innovator is that. But, you know, complimentary. But welcome back. Happy to have you returning again. Yeah, we had a. I had another guest lined up, and she got very sick, and it was like, oh, no, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna try and make you podcast when you are very ill. So we didn't have an episode this week, and I was like, okay, I guess I gotta do another one. And I was like, let's reach into the. This nice little bin. I call it gorilla position to look behind the curtain. For you, folks. This. Just this little box in a discord where I put all the former guests and there's. I try to put enrichments in there, blocks of cheese, things of that nature, duties for those that partake. But, you know, it's where I keep them. And that's. Occasionally go back and get. Hey, you want to do it again? [00:02:16] Speaker B: There's. It's been so nice to get some sunlight today and get out of the box. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Hampter chewed through that one block. It's. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, Hampton choose here. A lot of stuff after chew through the box. I still don't know how after chew through a Discord server. [00:02:31] Speaker B: I mean, that's what an opossum will do, so. [00:02:33] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And it's ultimate hampter. Like, they're already, you know, amped up. We'll see. But now that you are back, where would you like to start? Erica Would you like to. To eat our nitro or our raw first? [00:02:51] Speaker B: Well, let me throw it back to you. Do you want to start what I thought was good, or do you want to start with what I thought was bad? [00:02:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it. Let's go. What. What would you. What would you like to start that you thought was bad? Let's go with bad first. [00:03:05] Speaker B: Let's go with nitro. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Amy, too. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Oh, man. This was a. This was a shocking. Like, every time I've done this, nitro's been the better show. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Every. No. And it has. I mean, it has definitely leaned nitro so far, but this was what I would have called a raw. Nitro is what this was. This nitro felt like raw. Again, parentheses, derogatory. Like, not good. So I'm happy you called that. Yeah. Cool. We're back on. See, this is why you're one of my five horse persons. [00:03:42] Speaker B: So on the same page, we communicate. We cut the ring in half, isolate a show. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:03:48] Speaker B: And then beat the. Out of it. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. Fantastic. It's like. It's like the Ric Flair, but. But not problematic. We're taking it back. We're taking back the Woo. That's what we should do. We take. Because let's be. Let's be fair. The Nature Boy Four Horsemen gimmick, that's just. That's just a. A doll in her posy. Like, you know, like, we can take this back. Right? [00:04:14] Speaker B: And he just. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Ours again. [00:04:15] Speaker B: The way he switches them out, too. Like, he's always getting new ones. Get that new hot thing. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. The new baby queer that comes in and, like, you're the mentor. Woo. And you're teaching them how to style and profile. Yeah. Makeup tips, you know, Go Sephora. So, no, this is. This is fantastic. We're taking it back. I'm declaring it. [00:04:35] Speaker B: I've declared the dolls now. Damn it. [00:04:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. The concept of a Ric Flair is for the dolls. We're taking it. This is the backlash to the fascist dictatorship. You let that happen. Like, well, you know what? Nature Boy's trans now. [00:04:54] Speaker B: I mean, look at that damn hair. Come on. [00:04:57] Speaker A: Oh, God. That's fantastic. So nitro is back. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Nitro's really bad. [00:05:02] Speaker A: It was bad, but it. It took a week off and they forgot how to do it. It's kind of what happened. They just. I. It started with me going, yay. There's a proper intro. I missed you, wcw. And then it just got. Eric says, forget the canned stuff. This is live, not history. But history in the making is like a you, Vince. And I was just like, okay, let's. He's ready to come out swinging. And it. It's didn't swing. [00:05:30] Speaker B: They came out swinging and they missed every time. [00:05:32] Speaker A: They missed every time. And. And possibly. Look at that. Right off the bat. Terry's here. Hulk is ripping shirts and dropping slurs. Hulk Hogan. Apparently, the handicap match. It's Kevin Sullivan is. I. I can't. I'm so sorry to Kim, Hugh, because I have come to start calling Taskmaster Tasky the Kevin Sullivan Taskmaster Tasky in my notes. And I feel terrible about it. I'm not. I'm not gonna stop doing it because it makes me happy. Much like calling Scott Steiner Scoot. Or the Dungeon of Doom, the Dungeon of Goon. Like, I'm not gonna stop doing it. It's me. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:06:15] Speaker A: It makes me happy. And you. Yeah, exactly. And that's the joy of this show, Erica. As you know, it doesn't matter if it's a good bit. I'm gonna do it. [00:06:27] Speaker B: That's all that matters. Happy. [00:06:30] Speaker A: Exactly. So Tasky and Double A versus Hulk. All that to say it's Taskey and Double A versus Hulk. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Although think about it. We got lucky on this. This was almost a Hogan bootyman tag team match. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Which we've gotten too much of recently. So, like, absolutely, we got a break there. Holy hell, Kim. I feel bad for Kimberly. Doesn't get screen time, but, yeah, she doesn't have to hang out with Ed, so, you know, who. Who's to say who wins there. But noticeable moments for me. Hulk, purveyor of the shittiest figure fours. [00:07:10] Speaker B: God, yes. Twice. [00:07:12] Speaker A: Twice. Real bad. He insists on doing it poorly and looking confused the whole time. I'm just so angry every time. It's one of. It's like when the Rock does sharpshooter. Just makes me viscerally angry every time I see it. I get mad at how wrong it is. But he does it on Arn. And then Tasky just starts stomping him like, no, stop it, Terry. You're making her own look bad. Like, just cut that out. So Booty man's hurt, but Kimberly's still here looking amazing. Like, just hanging out like a futuristic pink Ranger. Doesn't have to hang out with Leslie, so she does her job, distracts the ref, and Hulk can, like, just hit everyone with a chair for a bit. [00:07:55] Speaker B: Well, it's a handicap match, okay? It is a handicap match. It's no dq. [00:08:00] Speaker A: It is no dq. Nobody told me it was no dq. None of these chuckle we got three chuckle and a dog. No one mentioned the. The lack of DQs. [00:08:10] Speaker B: I think, well, this will come up again in the next match on the show. But, like, they. They did a very poor job of, like, explaining the rules because if we're going to get technical, if it is a handicap match there, no dq, like, that's. That's kind of one of the mainstays of WCW rules. Fascinating. [00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Because where. Whereas in. Whereas in the Fed, it would. It's like a T. Yeah. Tag. But, like, there's still rules. Like, you could still. You still have to tag in and. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Right. I don't actually. I don't know if it's meant to be a tornado match, but. Yeah, like, they. They definitely just. [00:08:46] Speaker A: They just. Yeah. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Let Hogan waffle both of them with a chair and they both D. The whole thing the whole time. [00:08:53] Speaker A: It was. So we're getting to the point, I think, where Hulk is not. I think we're already in 1996 at like, Hulk can't work, brother. Like, not like he used to. So, like, he keeps bringing the chair out. Like, a lot more than I ever remember Hulk Hogan bringing a chair out. And it just. It's so weird. It's all kind of boring and it feels forced. Like, even Jimmy Hart getting kicks in on Hogan, which does please me, is just silly. And I'm just. I don't like it. And not silly in my fun way. Like, you know me. I like silly. You know. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Right. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Silly. Some of my favorite. Listen to our previous guest Sawyer's International Object Podcast. Listen to me talk at greater length than usual, believe it or not, about how much I love silly. [00:09:44] Speaker B: The. It felt like they were going through the motions, and it also felt like they were like. It was like, let's get in, let's get out. Like, that was the only reason, like, Hogan didn't do his whole training and stuff before the match was like. He was just like, let's go. Let's do the match and let's get the out. [00:10:00] Speaker A: It was all very. Just whatever. Like, there's a few fun spark parts. Like they. They try to do a spike piledriver on Hogan. Steady sense art flying into task. That's great. [00:10:14] Speaker B: That works. [00:10:15] Speaker A: You. You know me again. I love when Guy sends other guy into Guy. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Like, it's like, let's good. We gotta do a spot. What's a spot? We could do that. That's all right. That's it. That's the spot. [00:10:28] Speaker A: Fastball special. You're asking. Oh, so good. So. But more or less, yeah. A couple slams, leg drop. Boom. The Hogan beats two guys because he's a superhero. Okay? [00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:42] Speaker A: Woman sells out her sister and holds Liz in front of herself like a shield. Like, of course. I love that shit, though. I love that. Like, everyone's like, what's up with this Woman shit? And they, like, feel bad, like, she's degraded for being called Woman. And, like, you know, the feminist lady in me is like, yes, absolutely. But the. The person in me who, like, used to, like, work at BDSM clubs and shit is like, no, you don't understand. Like, you don't. You're not. You're not understanding the character that is Woman. Like, she is a dastardly. They're calling her Woman because they can't just call her, like. Like, you know, so it's like, the vibe is just like. Like, it's Woman. Like, she. She's despicable and hot while doing it, and, like, just. She's just Woman. And I felt like this very much, like, showed that in a way where I could be like, see, guys, see, this is what I mean. She grabbed the list. Grab this. Elizabeth is a shield. [00:11:42] Speaker B: She. She absolutely. She totally gets her job as, like, what her character is for exactly. A woman. Like, and she does it perfectly. Like. And I think that I. I forget what show we saw her on, like, on the. The Patreon feed, but, like, when she was managing flair, like, she's a perfect match for Flair. [00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:02] Speaker B: Like, she enhances him. Elizabeth. Elizabeth looks super uncomfortable being there, I'm not gonna lie. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Liz. [00:12:09] Speaker A: Liz just does not want. She continues to just kind of seem to not want to be there. She gave a couple good promos in this whole, like, I'm here to have. I took half my husband's money. Sad thing that they continue to do, but, yeah, she really just doesn't seem to want to be there. And, like, whatever. And, like. Yeah, but more. More importantly, she's used as a shield. And Hogan says, no, no, no, that's fine. I will beat up both of these helpless women. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that. [00:12:41] Speaker A: That's. [00:12:41] Speaker B: I think the. The. The. The thing we haven't talked about is, what's the stipulation for this match? Is that the winner gets five minutes alone with the opposing team's manager of their choosing. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Wait, what? [00:12:52] Speaker B: Yes. This. That was. They kept saying this on a commentary. [00:12:55] Speaker A: So how did I miss that? That's another thing. The commentary was so bad this week. [00:13:01] Speaker B: It was. [00:13:02] Speaker A: It was that I started. I started to tune it out like, I do. Vincent. [00:13:08] Speaker B: They. They mentioned that it Aaron and Tasking1. They would get five minutes with the booty babe. And then if Hogan won, he got five minutes with, like, whoever he wanted. Jimmy Hart, Elizabeth or woman. And he spent. That was why he spent all that time teasing, beating up two defenseless women. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Before he beat the Jim Be heart. [00:13:31] Speaker A: Well, I guess it's kind of better that there was, like, a plot reason, I guess. [00:13:38] Speaker B: I mean, but the plot reason is not good. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Plot reason is. But the plot reason is rape culture. So it's like, is that really, like. Is that really better? [00:13:48] Speaker B: Like, God, like, they even kept saying. They kept even imply, like, five minutes alone. [00:13:54] Speaker A: Like, God. [00:13:59] Speaker B: The commentary was so awful on this show. Like, I just. [00:14:03] Speaker A: It was really bad. [00:14:04] Speaker B: I put it here. I was like, this is why I can never be mongo pilled. Silence powers have no effect on me. I will never be so bad. [00:14:13] Speaker A: He's gotten. I've been Mongo pill. But the last, like, month and a half, I will say he has been on some weird. We'll talk about it a little bit later. Because I took a specific note of one, because I was like, hey, hey, buddy. [00:14:31] Speaker B: I think I know what you're talking about. [00:14:33] Speaker A: Please don't say that. [00:14:34] Speaker B: I'm not gonna say it. No, I'm just saying I'm pretty sure I know which one you're talking about. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we'll get there. But, like, in the only shipwrecker thing that Jimmy Hart has ever done, he saves these homeless women. He tries to blow dust in Hogan's face, and it just misses completely. [00:14:51] Speaker B: I couldn't tell if he botched it or if he just dropped somebody's cocaine he was holding. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Holy. That could have gone either way. Maybe that's why Terry beat his ass so bad. He's like, brother, that was. That was my weekend. That was expensive, Brother Bootyman's gonna be pissed. They just gave him, like, new sinuses. Like, surgically. Like, that's so up. So this is eventually. Oh, my God. The. The booth boys are just, like, confused, too. They're like, what apparently happened there? So eventually, like, whatever. He strips Jimmy of his clothes, which no one liked, and then here comes the giant to choke slam the out of everything. So, like, Hulk know sell it. And I'm just so done. I'm so done. [00:15:37] Speaker B: I could totally just laugh at this. Like, he didn't even, like, take a second to sell it. He just popped right back up. [00:15:43] Speaker A: I am so. He. He did, like, warrior did. Triple Paul's pedigree. Wrestlemania. Just not even I am so mad. I. I got, like, irate at this. And then, like, tried to find a calm and I became. Because now it's WrestleMania 3 again. And, like, I wiped. Watching nitro has turned me into Dr. Manhattan sitting on Mars. It's WrestleMania 3 and Hulk is slamming a giant. And then it's. It's 1993 and Hulk is slamming a giant. And then it's April 15, 1996, and Hulk is slamming a giant. It just. It's all. He's. God, I'm so sad. [00:16:23] Speaker B: I think what made me the saddest was, like, this crowd loved it. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Yep, that's the saddest thing they were eating. Thank you. Oh, you are on point, Erica. I should have you on more often. You're right. You're gonna get to that. Five times. Hulk says some into the mic. Crowd loves him. So strange. It feels like they're pushing him extra hard tonight and I don't like it. And like, at the start of the show, they must have wanted to, like, break a huge rating maybe because they're coming back with a week off. And the one before this was a rough nitro, like, production wise. Like, the show itself would have been a good show if the production hadn't been, like, clearly off. It was pretty all right, but it was. They're. They're having a rough time. I don't know what happened, but yeah, they took the week off and forgot how to do it. So we come back to commentary booth, though, and thus it's. It's finally Pepe talk time. He's a little cowboy again. He's perfectly. He's anarcho, commie little cow poke dog. He's black. [00:17:24] Speaker B: I think that's maybe accurate because, yeah, he's. He's a he. I think he's dressed as a coal miner because they're in West Virginia. So, like, he's ready to go to, like, Blair Mountain and shoot some Federalis. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he's gonna a Pinkerton up. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:37] Speaker A: School peppy. Go for the throat. Eyes. Throat balls. Remember this, Pepe? But speaking of eyes. Throat balls. Back to the graphs. An obvious. An obvious feud fills our TV screen. It's Public Enemy walks out and the Nasty Boys jump them with chairs and trash cans because it's street fight time. [00:18:02] Speaker B: Waffle them. [00:18:02] Speaker A: It looked like him hard. WCW is doing hardcore wrestling on tv. I think first as far as non ecw, because, like, ECW was in, like, certain markets. This was on tnt. They're doing like a straight up literal garbage match. Not to the point that they would get to. But there's some creative things with tables in this match. [00:18:28] Speaker B: I don't know if I would call it creative because it was improvised. Improvised? Yeah, let's say improvised. [00:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah, let's say clever. Clever. Not maybe not creative clever. As far as the two companies, I'd say, like, between these two, this is the first hardcore wrestling. And like, it's like alternate universe versions of each other is how I feel about this team. Like, different. Like Public Enemies. Like, if the Nasty Boys did cultural appropriation and were raised by Paul Heyman, basically being fed cheap beer and popcorn and laying in a cage. It's terrible. [00:19:08] Speaker B: It's like you just. I can't. I can't with that. I have nothing to add to that. [00:19:15] Speaker A: I broke Eric. [00:19:18] Speaker B: I have nothing to add to that. That just sums up Public Enemy perfect. [00:19:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. It's Nasty Boys with dreads. It's. What the. Oh, my God. With braids. Not your headset. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah, not even. They didn't even. At least. Thank God they didn't attempt to give them drugs. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:19:35] Speaker B: This match. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Oh, my God, it was bad. That's the other thing. It could be one thing if, you know, maybe like an Italian guy with. With braids wouldn't be that terrible, but this match was really bad. It was not good. It's a brawl. Woo. The enemies try to get the tables out, immediately get hit with them instead. Yeah. Breaking things willy nilly. And it's just it. They're just all, like, hitting each other with halves of tables. [00:20:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It was just dudes walking around smacking. [00:20:06] Speaker A: Each other on the head with various things. [00:20:08] Speaker B: Huh. And then sometimes a table would come into play and it's. Yeah, it's. I can. I understand that. It's like very unique televised wrestling at the time. Like, you did not see this type of thing, but it's a poor representation of it. [00:20:26] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. This is the Amelia Perez of hardcore wrestling, is what. It's terrible representation. You can't even be happy to see it. It's just bad and racist. [00:20:38] Speaker B: It's like you compare this match. You compare it and you compare this match to like, say, the gangsters. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:46] Speaker B: And like, they understood how to put this kind of match together. So, like, yes, it's a bunch of guys walk around and hitting each other, but then two guys get in the ring and do, like a big crazy spot. This was just guys wandering around the ring. Like Bischoff's like, oh, my God. The crowd is standing. Everybody's on their feet. They're on their feet and standing because they can't see. [00:21:06] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. They straight up don't know what's going on. Everyone is having a bad time. We do start to get some high spots, like the commentary. Doesn't even know how to call this. Mongo especially just has no idea what's going on. But Rocco tries to drop a leg from the top with a garbage can lid under his ass and misses. And, like, the whole place just goes, oh, like, my ass hurt watching that. [00:21:34] Speaker B: And he even stood out fully on it. Either he tried to land as flattered as back. [00:21:38] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just not happening. [00:21:41] Speaker B: It still definitely looked like it looked like. [00:21:44] Speaker A: It hurts so bad. But you know, about walk after this, though, he hits a bulldog on a setup chair in that ruled. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Yep. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:21:51] Speaker B: That was a good. [00:21:51] Speaker A: I would say that's. I'm like, I. I took a lot of notes on this match because I was like, I gotta find a good spot. There has to be. That was one of them. Like, this is chaos. But the spots are. Are getting better. Bobby seems bored. He's like, what is he grabbing a chainsaw? And I'm like, okay. If I'm being honest, like, I'm bored too. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Bobby was not having this. [00:22:13] Speaker A: He really was not happy. This is not a Bobby Heenan joint. He does not give this to them. I give them credit for trying to do ECW with ECW guys, but they just don't know how to do it with any credibility yet. Like, they're not. They don't get it. Really get it yet. [00:22:30] Speaker B: And the Public Enemy was not nearly the kind of team that could actually put a match like this together and, like, have it be effective. [00:22:38] Speaker A: Not on their own. You know, they had some great in ecw, and I will absolutely give them that. And. [00:22:45] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:46] Speaker A: The problem is, is that the best that they had in ECW was against, like, Axel Rotten in them or the. Or literally the Funk Brother. Yeah. You know what I mean? [00:22:57] Speaker B: So it's like, you, like, they had some, like, people who knew how to do this. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:03] Speaker B: Do it for. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. Because all they really were was edgier cultural appropriation. Nasty Boys. That's all that they ever. That's just it. Like, that. That's the whole thing. And I feel bad because, like, I do like, some of their classic ECW matches. But it's. It's like the Undertaker. I'm looking back now and realizing, like, the Undertaker wasn't what is good about under good Undertaker matches. It's the people he's Fighting is what's good about Undertaker matches. So, yeah, it is what it is. Mago calls a pinfall a count out. Bobby corrects him. Yep, everybody's just having. Everyone's having a bad time. The Enemy set up a table, get Knobs on there for like a sentence. So he's like, laying on his back and Bobby says, wait, he's. He's missing something. Should there be an apple in his mouth? I was like, you know, thank you, Bobby coming in clutch near the end, like, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Bobby, he. Knobs moves out of the way. Grudge goes through the table. So the Knobs then sneaks in and pit on him for the win. And the Nasty Boys beat the ECW guys at the ECW match. This doesn't sit right with me. The whole thing reeks of Hogan because Knobs is his buddy and it's like, okay, yeah, sure. Knobs apparently makes in omelets. Like, they like their best bros. All these guys live together in the same cul de sac and Florida. I. I hope everyone knows that Terry and. And Knobs and Ed Leslie, like, they all, like, there used to. There literally used to be a house in Florida where a bunch of old wrestlers, like, just live, like old divorced wrestlers live together like single dudes in their 40s and 50s. And it. Yeah, like Scott hall and Larry Zabisco. And like, it was. It. It's the craziest I've heard a guy. I heard an interview once with a guy. Listeners I want. I'm not a professional listeners. You know this. I hope this is one of the things you love about me. I try to give links and stuff, or at least let you know where I heard it when I can remember. But also, I smoke a lot of cannabis for the arthritis and the glaucoma. No, but it's important. Yeah, of course. But what was I gonna say? See? Oh, no, I did a bit without meaning to DM it. But the whole point is that it was the Laps fan Scott hall special. After Scott hall died, they interviewed this guy who was like one of Scott Hall's, like, like his keeper, you know, like his handler, basically. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Right? [00:25:57] Speaker A: Yeah, like in his later years. And like, he. Scott was living in this house of, like, Larry Zabisco. And Larry Zabisco is, like, trying to sell, like, fake steroids and like, Barely legal, like, Delta 9 steroids. Like. [00:26:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that sounds like Larry. [00:26:14] Speaker A: He's a living legend. Like, was. Yeah. Wait, is there. Wait, is Larry's Abisco alive or dead? Is that. Wait, no, that's my one. [00:26:22] Speaker B: No, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Oh, I gotta check, though. This is my. This is my one for the week, you know, this is it, folks. [00:26:27] Speaker B: This is your journalism. [00:26:28] Speaker A: Well, no, but every once in a while, I'll say that a wrestler is dead when he's still alive, and I gotta make sure. Oh, my God. [00:26:36] Speaker B: No, he's dead. He's hecka dead. [00:26:38] Speaker A: He is heck and dead. All right, well, formerly living legend Larry's gladly confirmed. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Don't sue us, Larry. Don't haunt us either. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Wait, no, no, no, he's alive. [00:26:53] Speaker B: Wait, what? [00:26:54] Speaker A: No, he's totally alive. [00:26:56] Speaker B: No way. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Hold on, hold on. Yeah, no, Larry Zabisco, still living legend. [00:27:02] Speaker B: Damn. All right, well, don't sue us then. [00:27:05] Speaker A: Oh, that was fun. [00:27:07] Speaker B: I don't have anything anyway. [00:27:08] Speaker A: See, folks, never listen to a thing I have to say on the podcast. So please do. Keep listening to the things I say. Tell your friends. Listen to things that she said. [00:27:19] Speaker B: Listen to what she says. [00:27:20] Speaker A: But you know, you know, with a grain of salt. But the Public Enemy, though, they say that this. That's our heat. Damn it. They have a table on the outside already set up, and they attack, Say, oh, God, this was wild. They get sags on the table, grunges on the apron, and this was cool. Rocco runs and hits the, like, over the top. Rolling Senton into his own partner on the apron who, like, catches him, and they both fall back onto segs through the table. [00:27:54] Speaker B: That was super cool. [00:27:54] Speaker A: That was, like, the one cool thing. [00:27:57] Speaker B: It was super cool, but it looked like it sucked. Yeah. Had to hurt a whole lot. [00:28:02] Speaker A: There was no. Yeah, it was one of those things where I was just like, I. Why? That was like Darby Allen levels of just like. There's no. [00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:10] Speaker A: There's no way of doing this gracefully. You're just gonna hurt everyone involved. [00:28:15] Speaker B: That was cool as. But. Ow, my ribs hurt watching that. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Yeah, don't do that. Like, what the. [00:28:22] Speaker B: Like, I think there's. There's a reason why nobody, I think, has copied that spot. [00:28:26] Speaker A: Yeah, because. And it's like. And you guys are not like, the most athletic folk in the. In the. In the back room there. [00:28:34] Speaker B: They're very large, man. [00:28:36] Speaker A: And, like, I just feel like that hips were displaced, you know? Like, that was. That was rough. So anyways, we go. I go to commercial pretty happy. Come back even happier because it's Regal's music. And I was like. But I was bamboozled because it's Robert the Earl of Eden Earl. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Robert Eaton with Jeeves with Jeeves. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Yes, we're gonna Jeeves. I think it's G, though, isn't it? Is it Jeeves Proper? I can't remember. [00:29:07] Speaker B: I think they did it properly. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Okay, good. I'm just making that up apparently. But Bobby says the crowd. Eden's not giving the respect to this man from England. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Right. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Knowing full well that Bobby is from like Alabama. Like, damn it. He's. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Whoever came up with this idea for Eaton is either a genius or it was like the biggest rib he could think of. [00:29:31] Speaker A: Right? I. I don't even know, but like, holy. I mean, this guy. Listeners, I need you to understand that Robert Earl of eaton in the 80s was to. To many, many a young person in the South, a sex symbol. This was a heart throb. Now he's. He's Robert, the Earl of Eaton. This is what. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. [00:30:03] Speaker B: I couldn't think of anything else for him to do. So he's fancy British guy. [00:30:07] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and that and Regal needed a partner, basically. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Like Regal needed a partner and they couldn't make Regal. I actually would have liked to see them try and make like Regal like. [00:30:17] Speaker A: A. Oh my God. That would have been really. Well, wait, no, Vince did that later on for like a month. Remember, he's a man. Such a man. He made him like the blue. [00:30:27] Speaker B: He didn't make him a lumberjack. [00:30:30] Speaker A: No, he made. They made him. He was like a blue collar worker. He was like a construction worker. Like, yeah, guys, it wasn't necessarily Southern, but they tried to make him like American. You know? [00:30:42] Speaker B: That's what I mean. Like try and make Steven Regal do like a deep south accent, Louisiana Draw. [00:30:49] Speaker A: I bet you he could. Man's a genius. [00:30:52] Speaker B: That would not shock me if he could do it, honestly. [00:30:55] Speaker A: Oh my God. Now I need to like find out. That's another one adding to my list of people that I would want to interview, even though I'm not a journalism podcast. Dustin Rhodes and William Regal. Yeah, just cuz I want to know what the dude. But this is gonna be a bloodbath. I think. I think. Yeah, he. He's. Yeah, yeah. [00:31:22] Speaker B: I didn't expect him to get as much offense in as he did, but yeah, here. [00:31:25] Speaker A: Here comes our. Our ever more unhinged Florida man done wrong by. By his woman. Macho man. Randy Savage. [00:31:34] Speaker B: You know them women? Yeah. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Representing Team Tassels Hard. The crowd is behind this poor, heavily divorced individual. There's another commercial and oh, the joys of 90s TV. Because we literally just got the two entrances and then another commercial I was like, oh, my God. I, I, I felt the, the 10 year old in me like, like swear under, under their breath because of the. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Fact that it's just like, like what I can imagine watching that on TV live. Like, yay, Randy Savage. Oh. [00:32:08] Speaker A: Like, yeah, God damn it. Like, oh, so like it's still. That's. See, that has to be nostalgia too, the stuff that pisses you off. Because I, I immediately was like, no. This is a familiar sting. They try to give Elizabeth on commentary for taking half of Randy's money in the divorce. And Bobby for once, is on the side of justice. He says that let her spend it. She earned it. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, dude. She absolutely did. Like, being married to Randy Savage is work. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Like, that's a full time job. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah. That's full time babysitter and or sex made like on, on. It's always sunny in Philadelphia. [00:32:50] Speaker B: It depends on the day. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. Well, now I'm imagining Dan DeVito as Macho Man. Let's make it happen, Hollywood. Let's go. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Let's go. It somebody with Photoshop. [00:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Is someone better than me? All of this is an effort to plug Macho man being a guest voice on Dial M for monkey. A cartoon. Yes. And they cut to a dude in the audience dressed like a Fred Flintstone mascot suit. And I again feel like I'm coming up on the bad drugs. [00:33:21] Speaker B: I just, this just made me feel old. This just made me feel old. I was like, did that. Because I know what cartoon they're talking. Really? Did that really come out? Yeah, it's, it's a very, I don't know if it's famous necessarily, but it stands out to me because I've seen it a whole bunch. It was, it was part of Dexter's laboratory. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Oh. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Because like he had a, he had a monkey that he experimented on. So like it was a super. [00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I do remember that. [00:33:47] Speaker B: So, so the episode Randy was in, he was the intergalactic wrestler Rasslor who came to challenge the heroes of Earth to wrestling. [00:33:56] Speaker A: That's amazing. Holy. No, I do remember. Dial in for monkey. [00:34:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I told I, I had to check it out. It's like, is that. I was like, what the are they talking? Oh, it's this, it's the, it's the, the, the episode that ends with Randy's character saying, I spare your Earth in one of the most iconic line readings that I can remember from my childhood. Good. [00:34:18] Speaker A: That's so Randy Savage. God damn. That's so Florida, man. [00:34:24] Speaker B: Yeah, he did, like, such an amazing. He did a pretty good job on that. I. If you haven't watched it, go watch it. [00:34:30] Speaker A: That's exquisite. I'm sure we could. I'm. Folks, I'm sure you could probably find it on YouTube, but this is great. Bobby, having no heel heat of his own in this gimmick at all, decides to copy Flair's moveset. And he likes struts. And in case you didn't get it, he was doing it. He pulls off a Four Horsemen T shirt out of his pants while in the figure four. Like, they're in the figure four, and he pulls the shirt out of his pants. Doing a bit. A gimmick in the figure 4. This is a little much. Guys like, yeah, it's. [00:35:02] Speaker B: I get what they're going for. And I. It kind of popped me because it's like he's got nothing else going on for him. So, yeah, he's like, let's just keep haunting an angry Randy Savage. Let's keep doing it. Let's keep amping the ante with. [00:35:15] Speaker A: With a group in a situation he's involved in that I have nothing to do with. In. [00:35:20] Speaker B: Nothing to do it well. [00:35:21] Speaker A: But. Oh, God, it just made me giggle, too, because it's a way to show that it takes zero concentration to hold Randy Savage in a figure four. Because you could, like, just do. You could be like, I don't know, doing math. Like, other things. Like you got other things going on. Reading a book. You know, he's just sitting there. [00:35:40] Speaker B: I guess the thing I appreciate. I guess the thing I appreciated about it, thinking back on it, was that it's. It's kind of showing that Randy's story is not happening in isolation to the rest of the company. [00:35:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:52] Speaker B: Everybody knows he's going through the divorce with Liz. Everybody knows he hates Flair. So what's the undercard guy gonna try and do? Try and piss him off, throw him off his game. Except you can't make the macho man angry. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I do also love when there's, like, a confluence of heels. Like, when the heels. Like, when the heels all, like, have each other's backs just because they're heels. It's exquisite. I do like that. [00:36:18] Speaker B: It's like they all know. Like, they all know what's going on. They all know their weaknesses. Like, they'll exploit them. They should. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Like Sting. I hate that guy, the boy Scout. All of them hate Sting because he's a goody two shoes and blah, blah, blah, is. I love that. But this was a little. Oh, I do have to say. [00:36:36] Speaker B: Well, they, they took it pretty far. Like I thought Jeeves could have been the one weighing this. [00:36:40] Speaker A: Yeah. At least or something. You know, like. Yeah, exactly. Like do something else. Have Jeeves pull it out in his face. Start. The guy who's in the move with you. That was, that's the one. That's the single aspect that was too much for me is that he's in the move when he does it. That's just that, that that makes it go from like a good bit to like cringe in a bad way. Speaking. [00:37:06] Speaker B: I was gonna say still a better figure four than Hook. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Yes, still a better figure four than Hogan. Speaking of cringe in the bag way commentary, they are sounding and acting more like the wwf. That's what it is to me. It's really bad. Like let Heenan be Heenan. Stop over telling your stories guys. Like and for sake give me a Tony Schiavone. I'm ready. I'm ready. Like I never thought I would miss Larry Zabisco. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Larry more than anything else. I'm stick to death of Bischoff. Bischoff is. Bischoff's bad. [00:37:37] Speaker A: He's very bad. He, he, he in that sense he very much is like Vince. Like if he's wanting to be like Vince. Yeah, he, he sucks at commentary and needs to be done. So. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, hell, Macho man wins with a big old elbow. Truly iconic for a reason. Beautiful. Can't blame the guy. He goes for another one after the wind to really drive home that he has evolved into unhinged macho man. And then again, in a confluence of energies, all these well meaning baby faces come out and, and hold him back and like handcuff him. While the commentary does enableism and says he's deranged and needs to be locked up and all this fun stuff. And I was like, okay, I love the baby faces coming out for what is supposed to be a baby face. You know, like we were supposed to have his back and that, that is something that is it. You get it occasionally. I think it's one of the things that it's why I liked Cody finishing the story as much as I did and wasn't like, like that ending of that match was. Could have been really, really bad and corny and cringy and terrible and in ways it was. But it was saved by the fact that I do love that energy of all the baby faces coming out to have the baby faces back, you know and like the like having Seth, come out. You know, and like, like that, like everybody is gonna try their damnedest to just kill this guy. Like, we're just so sick of this. [00:39:19] Speaker B: I think that's what makes a good wrestling company. Separates a good wrestling company from a bad one. It's like it. Not. Each story happens in a. Yeah, exactly. [00:39:28] Speaker A: And it makes it make sense when stuff like that happens. And that's how you stop it from being cringe. And I feel like they kind of gotten away from that a little more. But this was a really, really good instance for it. Like, like this era of, of this story. Not this nitro. This nitro sucked. [00:39:50] Speaker B: This was a bad one. [00:39:51] Speaker A: Yes. As we've established, as we have established and we will continue to establish it. [00:39:57] Speaker B: Had like to give credit. It did have some good story beats like it like you said, the, the baby face coming out to try and talk down Savage. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Like there's things that, that you know, could have, could have worked. Bobby says in all his years he's never seen anything like this. And I was like, there's a reason this kind of sucks, you know, like. [00:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I was even trying to think of like, how many instances of like have I seen something like this happen where it's not a pull apart brawl. Yeah, like baby faces aren't just like, oh, you gotta actually just like you, you gotta stop. You can't do this. This isn't. This isn't you, man. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it doesn't happen all the time. I could think of. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah, you see it, I guess you see it in pull apart brawls sometimes. But it's not, it's not nothing like this. [00:40:39] Speaker A: No. [00:40:39] Speaker B: At all. [00:40:40] Speaker A: No, this was like a whole other thing. And again, anytime we talk about this era, this like arc of Macho Man, I'm gonna think of Hangman Adam Page on his current drag too where he's just. The swerve broke him and like, like. And it's that sort of thing where like everyone's kind of doing that thing, but they're not doing it like this. They're doing it like backstage and promos and over time and Christopher Daniels trying to talk sense into him and all that. John Darnell this week quote posted a thing that I quote posted of someone's fan art of Christopher Daniels talking to Hangman Page with like an inspirational. And it was so. I'm just like, that is. I love pro wrestling. Like the fact that someone can make that kind of art and it's just like, it's so like teenage girl, like anime fan art kind of thing, but also like sincere, but also about a guy who did arson and drank blood. All those things at once. And it makes me so happy. And the mountain goats are there. [00:41:50] Speaker B: It's okay. [00:41:51] Speaker A: Yeah, John, you're a mutual. Now come on the pod. But this is a awful nitro. That had good points. We come back to a poster from commercial for a Sam Jackson movie called the Great White Hype. And I admit. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Having no idea what this movie is about, but I'll watch anything with him in it. [00:42:14] Speaker B: So I was like, listen to it on the radio. [00:42:17] Speaker A: Listened to a movie. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Yeah, because all right, so like the local ABC affiliate has like a radio. Like you can pick up their TV broadcast on the radio. So like, I remember I listened to it on the radio. [00:42:29] Speaker A: That's amazing. Yeah, I would want to listen. [00:42:31] Speaker B: I was like, I don't know what happened. [00:42:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I could put it together. I have often said that I would listen to wrestling on the radio. If you had good commentary, the right commentary team, I could listen. Listen to wrestling as a audio only medium. I think that'd be great. But yes, we come back from the Great White Hype, which I just threw that in there because I was like, does anyone, anyone tell me if this movie's any good? Let me know because I wish I could tell you because I saw that, I saw the poster and I was like, I missed. Never heard of this. It sounds amazing. Just off of Sam Jackson's face and that title I want to know. But in the meantime, Liz and woman make their way out looking amazing. Like, so good. Black and gold matching their team because it's flare and giant. So flare's in the gold robe. Giants in his usual black. I was like, this is actually really solid stuff. Flare goes to the front row and flirts with Mongo's wife. Everyone, Deborah's wife is here. [00:43:42] Speaker B: I think I. I just have mangoes being cucked live where the big boys play. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Which means that Mango's time on commentary is not long for this world at. [00:43:56] Speaker B: This point because thank God. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Thank God. But she's gonna be. She's there to be a valet for. For her husband and she will be carrying the pepe. [00:44:07] Speaker B: The unfortunate part about Mango getting off a commentary is we're gonna have mango matches. [00:44:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the only worst part. And folks, he never gets better. Like, he just. That's. That's the story of Mongo the wrestler is. He's all right. He never gets better. But all of this happens and it's. They're just making it Normal. Make fun of Mango on commentary. Like, right next to him. Like, make basically making fun of him. Like, Flair's doing cuckoldry. So, like, all this horseman stuff is weird. Sad sack divorce, Macho man. I. I love it. But it's. It's weird. Flair is collecting women like Pokemon, basically, like this. It's so strange. Like, I got woman, and I got your wife and I got your money. Whoa. And there's a giant here. Whoa. And we got the tag. Chance Boy scout, Sting, boyfriend and golden retriever puppy girlfriend, Lex Luger. So yay. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Puppy girl Luger. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Puppy girl Luger. Let's go, hot dog man. Sting and Rick face off. They have a woo off. As is traditional. Like, that's the thing these guys do every time they meet. We have to do our various ques. [00:45:24] Speaker B: Now, I was gonna say this one had a special guest. And in that flare wood. And then what did the giant do? He even, like, cupped his mouth too, and he did it. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Amazing. No, like, giant. Giant is the WCW Vader for me right now. Like, because Vader, we'll get to Raw. Vader is very Pokemon right now. Like giants. That's all they got. It's time for a new segment, though. We have to pause the show. New segment on Monday night. Fake fights. No genders. Any gender. Dudes rock. I'm not sure if you saw this, but as Stinger and Flair are locking up in the crowd across from the heart camera, maybe eight to nine rows back, there are two guys with two other guys on their shoulders, and they are both doing the Lex Luger torture act finisher to their bros. And I no longer care about this match. Like, this is. [00:46:31] Speaker B: I miss this. [00:46:32] Speaker A: I just have to point out. Yeah, dudes rock is what that is. [00:46:37] Speaker B: That's a fact. Yeah, that's a. That's a very Dudes Rock moment right there. [00:46:40] Speaker A: Holy. I say dudes. All gender, no gender. Just dude. Dudes rock. And I hope that they come back because that was amazing. And God bless the guys who were like, put. Get me up, dude. Like, bro, get me up. I could do it. Like, rack me, bro. [00:46:59] Speaker B: I'll have to go back. I did not notice that. [00:47:01] Speaker A: It's right near the, like, beginning of the match. Like, the match barely starts and. And there's just these guys racking some bro. [00:47:13] Speaker B: Oh, man. Bros racking bros. [00:47:19] Speaker A: Just dudes. [00:47:20] Speaker B: Yeah, bro. [00:47:21] Speaker A: Bro. Yeah, bro. [00:47:23] Speaker B: I'll wreck you, bro. [00:47:28] Speaker A: Rack me, bro. That might. That might be the title. All right. Yeah. So be wild though. The. The match continue. Wreck me, bro. That's gonna live in my heart forever. But anyway, sorry, I tried to continue, but all I can think about is rat. [00:47:54] Speaker B: I gotta compose myself now. [00:47:56] Speaker A: Racked me, bro. All right, so that was a great bit here. God damn it. So this is, this is great though. This was awesome. Stinger gets flare up in a military pr. [00:48:10] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:48:11] Speaker A: So he has this. So the seven foot giant is on the outside and he's like, this would make a great target for a Ric flare. So either he throws Rick into the giant, who being a giant, catches him and like it's nothing, and then just rolls him back into the R. Yeah. And Flair looks back at the giant all pissed off like, what the are you doing? And then meanwhile, while he's doing this, Sting is text tagging Lex in. So when flare turns around, he's turning into like sweaty, flexing Lex in his face. [00:48:47] Speaker B: Max her right into the hot dog. [00:48:49] Speaker A: Yeah, right into the hot dog. [00:48:50] Speaker B: This is great. [00:48:52] Speaker A: And it gets even and it's like, this is great. This is amazing art. This is cinema. Gets better. It gets so much better. So, like, well, because then, okay, of course he acts freaked out. Lex immediately puts him up into the military press and tosses him into the giant again, who then catches him like it's nothing and rolls it back. And this time when Flair gets in, he's stomping mad. He's like throwing a tantrum. It's so good. It's one of those. [00:49:30] Speaker B: This is, this was all. This is a show full of bad matches. This was so much fun. [00:49:36] Speaker A: This was really great. It, like just in like the rest of the match isn't that great, but this one section was great. This is the one of those pro wrestling is better than that thing you like moments for me. Like, I, I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Silver Streak with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Maybe. I don't know. [00:49:58] Speaker A: Actually. This is a deep cut, folks. I'm sorry, I. I'm. I'm an old. And even though I'm not old enough for this movie, I. When I was younger, I was still an old, so I liked old movies. So Silver Streak is, is a part of a wonderful run of movies that Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor did together. And there's very problematic blackface in it, but it's also like one of the funniest. It's. It's a great movie, but there's a reoccurring bit where Gene Wilder keeps getting thrown off this moving train. And every, every time he gets thrown off, he Just stands up like, son of a. Like, it keeps. You know, it's just like. That's Ric Flair right now. He's just hopping, Ma. So, like, this whole match could have been over for me after. That was just so good. [00:50:54] Speaker B: I think, like. Like, after. After Flair had his little temper tantrum, he, like, runs out of the ring and he chops the J. Yeah, yeah. Just like. [00:51:02] Speaker A: No. [00:51:03] Speaker B: Yeah, he chases him to the back. That's how they throw it. A commercial. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Yeah. No, he tried. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Gets so just like, oh, I wish that had. That was the end of the match right there. That was perfect. [00:51:14] Speaker A: No, that should have been it. Yeah. But no, they can't. They've made up. By the time they've gone back together, though. They, like, they. They went to commercial break, mad at each other. But we come back and they're technically a cohesive team. Lex is a screamer tonight. Every. Every. [00:51:32] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:51:33] Speaker A: Every piece of human contact gets. Oh, just. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Oh, I love Lex. [00:51:39] Speaker A: I love Lex, but he's gotta get a new noise. The girls. The girls attack Lex on the outside. Bobby says, well, obviously, he must have done something upset a woman. Don't just attack like that. Like, that's not a thing girls do. Like, it was like, I love you, Bobby. Bobby. Yes, the women do in fact, attack like that. But they. They have reason. Mago says, lex is being. Here we go. Here we. Here it is. Oh, here it is. All right. Remember, I said we got there. [00:52:10] Speaker B: All right. Mago says, lexus, at least we should maybe trigger warning this for, like, obvious racism. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Oh, I mean. [00:52:19] Speaker B: Oh, man, this is bad. [00:52:20] Speaker A: I. I don't even know about the obvious racism. Like, wait, wait, where we. We have different ones then. [00:52:27] Speaker B: Oh, do we? [00:52:29] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. [00:52:30] Speaker B: You say yours. [00:52:31] Speaker A: Okay, mine's trigger warning for. For violence against women and a little bit of homophobia. We'll get there. Mago says Lex is being swung around and abused like, his little sister's Barbie dolls. And I need Mago to see someone, just anyone, talk about it. What is going on? Guy Bobby, for his part, says, you. You played with dolls? Like. And I'm like, that's not the weird thing to get from that, Bobby. [00:52:59] Speaker B: Like, no, no. [00:53:01] Speaker A: And he's like, no, I beat him up and stuff. And, like, Bo's talking about, like, beating up and destroying and causing harm to his little sister's Barbies. And I'm just like, that seems. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm not. Maybe it's because I'm not a boy. But like, why would you do that? I don't know. That seems weird. Like, I, I had Barbies that were like, already broken that we had fun destroying because they were already broken. So we like, came up with one new ways to destroy the doll. But that wasn't like to cause harm to my sister. That's just psychotic, dude. What the. [00:53:41] Speaker B: Like, my, my, My sister had Barbies too. And I just left them alone, you. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Know, I didn't feel any. [00:53:49] Speaker B: I didn't feel one way or the other. [00:53:51] Speaker A: Okay, so now I need to know what, what was your. What? The mango? [00:53:56] Speaker B: All right, so this, this is. I don't even want to say it out loud. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Oh, it was. I missed something bad then. [00:54:04] Speaker B: No, this was really bad. I forget who was. I don't even want to say it. It's like heavy trigger warning for racism. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Okay, well, maybe not. Oh, God. Maybe we don't. [00:54:16] Speaker B: No, I don't. I don't really. I don't feel comfortable saying it. But to long story short, it was a Rodney King. [00:54:22] Speaker A: Oh my God. Okay, thank you. All right. [00:54:24] Speaker B: About in the. Yeah, I'm, I'm. I don't want to say. [00:54:27] Speaker A: Yeah, but there was a. That's, I have to say, a Rodney King joke. [00:54:30] Speaker B: It was a very specific like, not like name drop Rodney King, but it was a. [00:54:35] Speaker A: But it was a. [00:54:36] Speaker B: What happened? Like, what happened? [00:54:37] Speaker A: Okay, well, I supposed to be haha funny. All right. Yeah, I, I did not even pick up on that because again, the commentary sucked. This, this week, it was not great. [00:54:48] Speaker B: That was one like, he dropped that line and I paused it and I had to take a minute. Like I really did. [00:54:54] Speaker A: That's Nitro. Nitro keeps doing that to me. But that's the first time someone who worked for Nitro would have done that. The last time that. Yeah, last time that happened to me, it's because there was a guy doing a zig hile in Alabama. That was a wild one. Yeah, that was Silent. That was the last time Silent was on. We should have silent back since I'm doing my, My horse, people. So that. That's, that's terrible. [00:55:19] Speaker B: That was really. [00:55:19] Speaker A: That's real bad. [00:55:21] Speaker B: That like just killed the rest of the match for me. Like, I was just like, let's just finish it. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Because I was gonna say it's as bad as the rest of this match. Like this. Whatever. There's, you know. Okay, there's some good stuff, I guess. Rick does this. There was one fun thing. Rick does his like, inside out whip into the corner and he Lands on the cameraman. That was cool. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that was funny. [00:55:44] Speaker A: That was a good spot. You know, like even like, hey, I'm sure I hope it wasn't on it. I like, I want to believe it was on purpose because then it would be a good spot. And also I, we feel bad if he just accidentally. No one wants to accidentally get hit with a Ric Flair, you know, like that's. [00:55:58] Speaker B: I think it was an accident. It seemed like the cameramen were taking a beating tonight. [00:56:02] Speaker A: God. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Like somebody got hurt in the, the nastiest Public Enemy match. Like one of the cameras went flying there. [00:56:07] Speaker A: Really? I missed that too. Jesus Christ, guys, be nice. Are you like giving them for up production last week? I'm pretty sure that was on the guys in the back. I think I was on Bischoff. Let's play Bischoff. Feels good. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Bishop would have blamed the camera, right? [00:56:22] Speaker A: So like that sounds like Bishop. Sounds like Bishop. So there's Elizabeth goes to toss coffee in Lex's face and Lex ducks so it goes in Sting's face. Getting a D. Yeah, getting it. Yeah. Getting the DQ fit. Yeah, that's dq. Can't do that. That's in the rules. Can't do that. Get their coffee. So they're trying to continue this idea that like Lex is messing up on purpose or whatever. Yeah. And that's how they end it. [00:56:49] Speaker B: That's how they end it. Like I'm not buying the whole the angle anymore that Lex is like secretly after like messing with Sting at this point because one, I don't want to believe it because the Sting Luger bromance is one of my favorite parts of WCW right now. And then two, it's just like it doesn't make sense. Like all you got to do is just be like, he ducked. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah, duck. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Like he was being shot at. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Yeah, like they're, they're, they're like they're, they're trying to, it's, it's grasping at straws with what shouldn't. Like it can be done. I know that this, this bit can be done. Well because it, there was a couple weeks there where they were doing it well and it was actually really, it was popping me. I was like, no, I really like this now. It just feels forced. But yeah, they, they, while they discussed this whole thing on commentary, Giant comes out and choke slams the piss out of everyone in the ring. Just because even though they lost like it, I kill you now. Match over. Yeah. Flair goes for the three count on a passed out Sting just cause. Why not? Why not? [00:57:52] Speaker B: One, two, three. He seemed to, like, not understand, like, why is there a DQ? 1, 2, 3. Come on. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Well, to be fair, I think he was in a. He was in a scorpion death lock when the. The coffee throw happened. So you probably legit didn't understand that I've been DQ'd. [00:58:08] Speaker B: That is probably true. [00:58:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. He's too busy getting. Getting stretched. So we cut the commentary and Bischoff is handcuffing Heenan. This is kinky. I love it. What a weird end to a weird nitro. What the. [00:58:21] Speaker B: The weirdest part of that. All that about that was Mongo and Bischoff high fiving after they handcuffed. Yeah, we did it. Yay. [00:58:30] Speaker A: Just so gross. All of it was bad and forced and not good. And there was racisms apparently, that I'm even missed. And it was just bad. Just bad. It was. It was a bad night. [00:58:41] Speaker B: This was a really bad show. They kept mentioning that there was like tornado warnings and everything in the area. So, like, I wonder if the weather was really actually that bad. And they were like, kind of just rushing stuff to get help just in case they needed to evacuate. But it was. It sucked. [00:58:58] Speaker A: It also felt kind of short for a nitro too. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Yes, it did. Yeah. This was like a shockingly bad nitro. [00:59:05] Speaker A: Yeah. No, there's a. A raw tier. Nitrogen is what I'm calling a raw tier. Isn't bad. Isn't bad. Maybe in a couple years, raw tier will mean good. We'll see. We'll get there. Okay. Geez. All right, is this. Is it on? Okay, this is a transmission from the Monday night fake fight sub basement. Technically, I don't even know if you guys are supposed to know that we exist, but we've been doing some light experimentation with maybe a little bit of force femming of a clone of Michael Hayes. And I just have to let you know, she escaped. So keep an eye out. There may or may not be someone calling themselves GOC Hendrix trying to, you know, shill things to you. It's. It's part of the programming, but keep an eye out for that and. Okay, I have to take this. This is the Don basement. Yes, yes. No, more. More mullet. But speaking of Raw. [01:00:10] Speaker B: All right, all right. So, like, I'm actually happy to talk about RAW this time. [01:00:14] Speaker A: Yeah, Right. We start off with bread being said. Canada, man. You know, in our opening package, you know, so we got poor Brett. We got. He's got stuff to say. He may not come back because he feels betrayed. And again, I say, Brett, just, you Wait, buddy, you feel betrayed now? [01:00:33] Speaker B: He's saying all this stuff. It was like, wait, what year is it? [01:00:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:38] Speaker B: Okay, I. I forgot that they, like, did this beforehand. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Yeah, like, they really kind of wrote it ahead of time. Team Tassels are out in the ring already. I think it's a singles match, but the new rockers. Not the old ones. The new ones. [01:00:54] Speaker B: The new ones. The new ones. Oh, God. [01:00:57] Speaker A: The opposition coming out being Mark Mero and. And Sable being very hot. Sabley in her, like, official Sable outfit. Like, that's like her Sable wear, I feel like. [01:01:10] Speaker B: So is this the first time she's with Barrow? That was the impression I got from commentary. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Kinda. Yeah. Like they had this thing where it was. She was initially with Hunter for, like, a night, and then Marrow showed up and. And it was like, okay, blah, blah, blah. And then there was like a will they, won't they sort of thing. And I think this might be the first or second time she's with Marrow now. It's very strange. The. The. What is that? [01:01:36] Speaker B: Like, what is. What is. What is merit? What is his, like, in kayfabe? Like, his main gimmick seems to just be stealing other people's women. [01:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a wild man, and he's a wild man, Mark, and eventually he's gonna be. They're gonna lean into the boxing of it and give him, like, boxing shorts and. And it's. Whatever. I don't know. To. To. For as far as Mark Mero and the Fed is concerned. Call me when you start shooting star pressing. Otherwise, I just don't care. But the person that he's fighting is Leaf Cassidy is Al Snow. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Al Snow. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Al Snow. In the crowd, there's a sign that says, Lee Cassidy, WWF champion seven years. Lee Cassidy, big fan, doesn't know his name. [01:02:22] Speaker B: Which just goes to show how bad commentary is if they can't tell you how. What his name is. [01:02:27] Speaker A: That's what I thought, too. I was like, guys, you are failing so bad because this guy is a fan. Really likes this guy. [01:02:33] Speaker B: Otherwise, that's a fan. Otherwise, that's a fantastic sign. Like, no name. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:02:40] Speaker B: I. I hope Al has that somewhere in his house framed. [01:02:43] Speaker A: Yeah, right? Yeah. He's like, guys, I went back and I found that fan and I got that side and it's hanging up. In Ohio Valley Wrestling now, Mark has his super hot valet at ringside, Sable. And so does Al Snow, Marty Jannetti. Yeah. Yeah. Captain of the Tassels. This match sucks, though. Mark. Mark's trying, but Al just Doesn't have it yet. Like, I like Al Snow. Later, Al Snow. He don't got it yet. [01:03:12] Speaker B: This was such. It was. This has been such a weird match to think about and watch because, like, we've watched a lot of Johnny B. Band matches and he was always like the highlight on the shows. [01:03:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he's so good. [01:03:25] Speaker B: He's like. He's like working long, 15 minute matches. And then like here he's working like at half pace against Lee Cassidy. [01:03:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:03:33] Speaker B: And I don't know if. If it's Cassidy or if it's like they. Somebody told him to slow down. [01:03:39] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm guessing it's Cassidy. Like, Lee, like Al's just doesn't. I'm gonna keep calling him Al. I feel terrible, but I don't. It's Al. Every time I see his big face in his big smile, I'm like, that's Al Snow. But no, I think he just sucks. I think he's just not good yet. It's basically what it comes down to because he's just not. He's not hitting the timing with Mark at all. And like, I feel like he is. He's slowing it down for him and he's still not getting. [01:04:09] Speaker B: Was super duper rough. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. [01:04:11] Speaker B: It kind of picks up a little bit when Mark is selling for. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it has its moments. The best move of the match so far, though, was Janetti murdering Marrow with a lariat on the outside. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yes. That was when I realized that they were actually heels. Yeah, thought. I thought they were just dorks. [01:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [01:04:33] Speaker B: Like, I thought that was the G. Oh, they're. They're, they're, they're. They're huge. Goof. [01:04:37] Speaker A: They're huge. [01:04:37] Speaker B: Oh, no, they're bad guys. [01:04:39] Speaker A: Oh. Vince even says dorkish energy at one point. [01:04:43] Speaker B: He just kept. He kept saying that. [01:04:44] Speaker A: Like, that would have been fine. Yeah, they're just goofballs. But no, they're supposed to be bad guys. They're just really not good at it. Al keeps doing this excited taunt where I think he's like shaking his arms in the air with excitement. [01:04:55] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like, doing like a little, like, shaking. [01:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah. But it just looks like he's jerking off Invisible Cox with excitement. And I get it, Al. I do. I understand. I too, would. Would love that, but this is a family show. Okay, calm down, Mr. Cassidy. The cock sucking was not enough to save him though. Mark gets on the top rope, sunset flip finisher for the win. Yeah. The match Barely ends before we get a phone call from Diesel in Germany because they, they also just didn't care about this match at all. [01:05:30] Speaker B: Hey, well that is really a match that happens. [01:05:33] Speaker A: And now we've got Diesel from Germany and he's Guten Dog. [01:05:40] Speaker B: It's probably the only German he knows. [01:05:42] Speaker A: I laughed so hard because he's just like stone German. Guten Dog. So they use the, they're using their longdistance minutes because remember this is 1997. Six to go over what happened in the last two weeks. I guess like we're gonna do exposition long distance from Germany. Sean gets hit by Diesel's chair. Diesel gets hit by Shawn's tiny fists of fury. Mr. Perfect does heel. You know, like all that. Vince accuses Diesel of taking advantage of Shawn in a delirious state. And that made me uncomfortable because again there were signs. That's the old, our old sign segment. Because why would you use that language, Vince? Why? [01:06:30] Speaker B: But why indeed? [01:06:32] Speaker A: But yes, he got him to, he hit him with the title belt and got him to agree to a no DQ match. Which is just ridiculous. Woo. Meanwhile though, they, they send out a smoking gun. I believe it to be Bart on the way to commercial. Yes. Uh, with some quick shots of Sunny being hot. Uh, and I think that's supposed to be a tease for the music video coming later and if so. Oh God. All right, well that's certainly gonna be a thing that happens. [01:07:09] Speaker B: I have thoughts on that. [01:07:10] Speaker A: We'll get there. I had thoughts and feelings. Feelings. There were feelings mostly thoughts back from commercial to a close up of a very wet, very green lit Stone cold Steve Austin. [01:07:24] Speaker B: Yes, Stone cold Steve Austin with the million dollar title. [01:07:30] Speaker A: He's starting to get his, his deranged eyeball. Look down though, more and more. Steve versus Bart Gun. This smells a possible banger for sure. And like there's solid, solid back and forth like in the beginning. Like top wrist locks, you know, like things of this nature. Ye old wrestling holds. [01:07:53] Speaker B: And then they did some, they did some network, they did some exchanges of office. [01:07:58] Speaker A: Yes. Exchanges of offense. Counters counters and counter counters. Yeah, exactly. Hands were held in a aggressive manner. So then a few minutes in Austin just like sends him flying outside and he lands hard. And I was like whoa. [01:08:15] Speaker B: Okay, that was scary. [01:08:16] Speaker A: That was scary. And I don't know if Bartman to go that hard. And after like from that point out it's like Austin flipped the bionic redneck switch and like he's just hitting the out of him and brawling. So I don't know if maybe I was like, I don't know. Did. Did Bart talk? Some. But like all of a sudden he's like Austin and like, I'm getting goosebumps. I'm like, okay, yeah, no more mat. Work him up. There's a sign in the crowd reading Bischoff and Mongo make me vomit. I know, I know. Yes, yes. I was like, yes. [01:08:50] Speaker B: I'd agree with that totally. [01:08:52] Speaker A: I noticed that there's no Bobby Heenan mentioned on that sign. And I say, good man. Good man. True patriot facts. Yes. Well signed. We get arrest holding bark gun after a small nap. Begins barting up, smacking his cowboy boot on the floor until he gets out of it. Makes a big old comeback sequence out of it and gets a nice bulldog for two. I'll give him that. Bart. Bart's okay. I guess that's why I come with. Out of this. Mostly with is Bart's okay. He gets him a sleeper. And Austin does like the sit down jawbreaker. Like. And I like, did. Did it happen to you? What happened to me where I was like, huh? [01:09:32] Speaker B: I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, I just have an all caps Daughter. [01:09:41] Speaker A: Yes, daughter. Not quite there. I was just like, oh, Steve, you did a thing that looks so familiar and pleasing to me. I like this movement. Maybe do something with that. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe we can work out. Let's workshop this. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, workshop. Workshop that on the Discord. Yeah, There you go. Holy, that was so good. Austin gets the Million Dollar Dream in off of it and that, that's the end of that. It's never going to be not strange to me seeing Steve Austin choke a guy out. Like, it's just weird. It's not right. I don't like it. It needed to be done. [01:10:21] Speaker B: It's. It's so strange how like much the Million Dollar Dream or Cobra clutch or whatever you want to call it is like not that good of a submission. [01:10:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it's really not. [01:10:30] Speaker B: Like guys, they keep trying to use it all over the place. Like, remember Okada tried getting it to try getting it over. [01:10:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say the money club. [01:10:39] Speaker B: And everyone just said, stop doing the money clip. Is I have to do the money clip. [01:10:43] Speaker A: Stop. Stop doing the money clip. He's like. And it's like, no, don't, don't. I know we like when you say I love it. I love it. Oh, God. It's. Stop doing the money club. [01:10:52] Speaker B: It's awesome. But you don't need to do the money. This was. I thought this match was really kick ass. Like I really like this match. It was it. I didn't think it was so much as like, not necessarily Austin turning his switch, but gun turn to switch. [01:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:08] Speaker B: And that made Austin match him. [01:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:10] Speaker B: Because like there were parts of it that looked like it was not like you got like, you know how like the always complain is like, oh, you know, wrestling looks like two guys working together to do stuff. This one looked more like it was guys fighting each other. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Yep. [01:11:22] Speaker B: And they sold a lot of the fact that like, you know, Austin's just this really good all around wrestler. [01:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:31] Speaker B: Like the, the, the. The jawbreaker he did. That's not the Stunner, but it's kind of the Stunner. But now they sold the, the pseudo stunner. They, they said it was like, oh, he knows that because that's his counter. If somebody hits him with his own finisher or any kind of sleeper that like he knows how to get out of it. Like, that's his counter for it is the Stunner. So like, oh, we've got a little bit of a backstory now on why the Stunner is why the Stunner. [01:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of like that continuity happens right? Over time. Yeah. I love that. It's. He's been a really great example of it so far as far as like getting to see one of the legends of, of mine youth grow into it over time. Like it's his has been very slow and steady as far as that goes. And it's. It's been really cool like seeing like from someone on commentary calling him a stone cold person as he's walking out to all of a sudden, that's his name is. Is Steve Austin not the ringmaster. And then Stone cold Steve Austin. It's like watching it happen in couple, couple of weeks at a time has been so fun. Cool. This was a good one for it. But now it's Vader time. [01:12:54] Speaker B: It's Vader time. I hate, I hate to, I hate to say how much I enjoyed a segment with Cornette in it, but this was awesome. [01:13:02] Speaker A: No, this was. I, I wrote to you. Unfortunately, it's also Jim Cornet time, but he gives us some exposition about Vader murdering gorilla and murdering Yokozuna. His voice only cracks like once. I'm proud of him. And then Vader also has a lot to say, namely Vader. [01:13:23] Speaker B: Who's that Pokemon Vader. Vader used mood salt. It's stupid. [01:13:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it's super effective. Ada. I love it. No, he is. He's the most Pokemon wrestler all Time Vince tells us that Razer Ramone is going to be his next victim in your house. Corny does some more Corny stuff. Vader agrees with a. And then. And then he just kind of barked in. In Corny's face while he's talking. And, like, you. You know, it smells crazy in there. Like. Like, poor Corny. Like, what the. Like, I don't even know if Jim Cornette deserves that. And then ends it with a big old Vader time. And. [01:14:20] Speaker B: I think what they. They did most effectively in this. And this is, again, I have to give Cornet credit for this. Was he kind of, like, sold? He was trying to sell the bags. Like, you know, I can barely contain this guy. [01:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:33] Speaker B: And it's like, the entire time, like, Vader's, like, bouncing off the ropes, walking around the ring, pacing. [01:14:39] Speaker A: Yes. [01:14:39] Speaker B: And, like, he gets up, like, in Cornet's face, and Cornet's gotta be like, no, no, calm down. [01:14:42] Speaker A: Yeah, calm down. Stop barking at me. [01:14:44] Speaker B: They just. They perfectly sold, like, his. Like, you got his character. You understand what he's about. [01:14:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:50] Speaker B: It's so cool. And then, like, I definitely noticed they mentioned when they were talking about Razor Coronet Slide, Razor Ramon may soon cease to exist. [01:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah. He knew. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Foreshadowing. [01:15:01] Speaker A: Foreshadowing. Yeah. What did Corny know? It turns out everything. A lot. It's his job to know all these things. I'm sitting here thinking, like, I don't even remember Razor Ramon Invader fighting. Like, maybe it's just because it's. We're still in that memory hole place. Yeah. Arturo Garcia talked about how this whole era kind of. It's just like. Yeah. I don't know. I kind of remember it, but not really. And so, like, maybe it'll happen. I. I didn't think that Ultimate Warrior actually came back. And it turns out he's, like, fighting gold dust. And so it's like, all right, maybe it's. [01:15:39] Speaker B: It's very interesting because it's like everybody knows when Razor and Bash jumped over, but, like, nobody can really. Nobody ever really talks about what they did right before, except for, like, the, you know, the curtain call. [01:15:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Outside of the curtain call, it's like, well, what were they up to? You know? And, like, Diesel's trying to do a title run with his. His best friend guy, Sean, and that's, you know, gonna end, obviously how it's going to end. You know, so what. What really is he doing right. [01:16:10] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:16:11] Speaker A: Not a whole lot. And we have reached the part of Raw with not a Whole lot of nothing going on. A couple weeks back, they did, like, a Bret Hart music video, and it was just. It was like the Souls on Fire song, I think, or whatever. Or whatever. Or Hearts on Fire. I don't know. Something's on fire. And it was just a bunch of, like, pictures and. And, like, B roll of Brett doing Brett things. It wasn't a music video. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like a music video has a. A. A storyline. Even if it's just like. Even if it's just like, this is a show, you know, like, there's. There's something to it, but there was nothing to this. And, like, this is what they have done again, but this time with Sunny. And it's just. [01:17:01] Speaker B: It's bad. [01:17:02] Speaker A: It's bad. It's just a bunch of Sunny being sexy and doing, like, photo shoot stuff. It's Sunny being on photo shoots is what it is. And that's cool. But it's on music video now. [01:17:16] Speaker B: I. I got this as, like, it's a Sunny gravery. I can't ever say it right, but, like, there's Japanese softcore porn, swimsuits. Like, that's what it is. [01:17:27] Speaker A: Basically. [01:17:28] Speaker B: Like, this over this, like, really terrible Jim Johnson song. [01:17:32] Speaker A: Oh, her theme song is so bad, dude. [01:17:36] Speaker B: It's really bad. [01:17:37] Speaker A: She knows we want her. Her. She died. Yes. [01:17:41] Speaker B: Dirty minds. I bet your eyes I. I be your eyes staring from behind. You want my body, you want my touch? You want to do things you never discuss. [01:17:50] Speaker A: Oh, God. Yeah. No, that's Kid show. Kid show, folks. [01:17:54] Speaker B: Welcome. Like, the worst thing is, like, imagine Jim Johnson rang those lyrics. [01:17:59] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Right? Like, have y'all ever, like, seen a picture of this dude? Like, I want you to look that guy up and imagine him writing those lyrics for Sonny. And, like, again, can't. Like, Sunny is beautiful. Like, holy. Should have been a model, but not for Vince McMahon. [01:18:20] Speaker B: No. [01:18:20] Speaker A: Not doing so gross. [01:18:25] Speaker B: It's. It's like, part like, you had Sable. You have this video. It's like you're starting to see the beginnings of. Of Vince's divas. [01:18:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:34] Speaker B: He's, like, starting to take formation. [01:18:37] Speaker A: And I know you notice we haven't had any women's wrestling since. Since Wendy took the belt and left or. Yeah. Or not Wendy Medusa, not Wendy Richter. Since Medusa took the belt and left, and it's like, okay. So he doesn't. He's like, okay, good. Him, I don't need. I don't want. He doesn't want women's wrestling. He wants Sunny's ass and like Sable's boobs and like. [01:19:00] Speaker B: And they were all over that video. [01:19:02] Speaker A: Oh, there was a solid 6 second slow motion shot of her ass, like up close. Like, like, what the. Like, holy hell. [01:19:14] Speaker B: It's like, I get the appeal. I understand. [01:19:17] Speaker A: Yes, again, I understand. I too was a gay teenager in. In the night. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, I get it. But no. [01:19:29] Speaker B: No. And just like the, the history behind it and the history of everything else is just in. [01:19:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:34] Speaker B: And the fact it's very uncomfortable watching it. [01:19:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And the fact that she's like in jail now and like it's just on. The whole thing is. Yeah, it's uncomfortable. It's just like none of this is good. So like they go from that to like, all right, we did that. Now let's do the real gay. We come back to grabs with Savio and Gold Dust. Yeah. Gosh. Vince gets all worked up promoing the in your house and he's like, title match between Goldust and Warrior for the icy belt. And then he's like, if. If that's how it goes, you know, you know, maybe. Maybe Savio could win here. And I was like, you, you up, didn't you? He started one because, like, the way I saw his. Because, like, it's Vince going, I want to sell the idea that that War Warrior could be intercontinental championship again because, like, that's where this is going. Warrior and the IC belt are an iconic duo. You know, like, that's what he's trying. He wants to sell that to the point that he forgets that, like, you have to get there, bud. You're kind of giving away how you're getting there. [01:20:39] Speaker B: I think the way they walked it back, it was like, even if Goldust loses the title, so face Warrior anyway because of. I don't know why. I don't know why Gold Dust. [01:20:50] Speaker A: If. Well, we. A couple of last week's episode was them having a confrontation and Warrior is going to fight Gold Dust for the good of masculinity and. And literally mankind. Mankind. Not McFoly, not womankind. Mankind. Cishet. White Mankind. Yeah. [01:21:14] Speaker B: Sounds like something Jim Hellwig would say. [01:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah. No, literally, basically, like they did the promo for it was something else. And I was just like, this is. I'm happy for this to be over soon. Like, can we, can we just please get to the. The happy times of my childhood where Goldust and Marlena just kept trying to like hot wife other people's valets. That's a good bit. Like, that's very funny to Me, I feel like that's mostly harmless. Can we get away from the gay bashing? Like, like, I understand it's where his character came from, but I liked it more when he kind of evolves from queer to uncomfortably polyamorous. Like his is basically the, the evolution. They're like, okay, we'll make it more that and you know, that's a good time. We start the match with Dustin licking the belt again, totally normal. They get real gay with it right away. Dustin's like sticking his tongue out, going hard on, rubbing up on him and stuff. And like this must be the program where Savio told him to like do it harder. Like basically. Yeah. Like he did. [01:22:24] Speaker B: He, he went for it. He was like doing dad Shoku dino level stuff. [01:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Like he gets him. The corners grinding his ass on his crap crotch and the crowd like collectively pearl clutch sound, you know. And I was like, it was beautiful. Honestly, I loved it. I was like, yes, yes. Make them freaked out. So like, why? Savio does the greatest thing he could do in this match though. His. When Dustin is recovering in the corner, he walks up and smacks his ass. [01:22:53] Speaker B: Yes. [01:22:54] Speaker A: I was like, these two rule like these two get it that they understand wrestling. [01:22:59] Speaker B: Davio know how to play the game. [01:23:01] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a great baby face. Like he's. I, I always knew him as a heel in like Bariquas and, and, and in the nation of domination. So like I always knew Savio was a heel and I didn't realize how good of a baby face he was and that I've really enjoyed seeing this early. So Avio amazing Gold Dust continues to use the power of his ass though. He does like the Naomi style ass attack off the Irish whip. Good one too. Like I feel like Naomi would be proud. Like. [01:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I remember using that when whichever wwf, WWF game was out at this time. I always loved using Gold Dust and using that. [01:23:48] Speaker A: The butt stop. Yes, they. They absolutely pop that in the game. I remember that too. Good for them. The crowd is booing the out of him though, and he decides he's going to grab a mic. So he. This is kind of wild that this happened on tv. He gets the mic and he says to the crowd that he needs them all to shut up or he will come out and kiss every one of them. And they go, no. He's like, I will gay assault every one of you, even the women. Somehow I will make it gay. [01:24:23] Speaker B: I don't, I don't know if that was like planned or if like he just grabbed the Mic is like, this would be like, we got to get more heat on this. [01:24:30] Speaker A: Yeah, like, like, like, it's. It's really leaning into it even harder. Like, give me the mic. I'm gonna go this far. It worked. It's. [01:24:40] Speaker B: It was really good. Like, the crowd was pretty hot for it in the first place, but, like, they were nuclear at that moment. [01:24:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Really Holy. And then to even get even harder, Savio tries to make a comeback and instead, Dustin knocks him to the ground and then, like, does, like, a teabagging situation. Like, goes to tea bag him. And Savio wakes up just in time to counter for, like, a pinning attempt. But, like, the key keeps going. It's so good. Like, this is amazing. Goldie goes to the top. He gets knocked on his nuts on the turnbuckle. Lawler says his Golden Globes. [01:25:19] Speaker B: I was like, I guess that's the origin of that. [01:25:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I begrudgingly give that one to you, King Savio then super kicks him, getting, like, full reach to his face on the top rope. And I was like, what the dude? [01:25:33] Speaker B: Like, yeah, it's like, I always forget that Savio has, like, some really good kicks. [01:25:36] Speaker A: Like, holy. How? Because you see him and you're like, he's, you know, he's not, like, fat, but he's a bigger dude. [01:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:43] Speaker A: And he's short. Yeah, he's shorter, so he looks, like, stocky. So when you see him do things that athletic, it's like, holy. See also like, Rakishi. Like, Rakishi does that all the time where it's like, you're not. You shouldn't be able to kick that high. Dude. What the. Good. Then, like, go to commercial. Well, I should say to finish the sequence because we mentioned all I cared about was the face. The kick to the face, goes for a superplex, gets tops off. Goldust tries to jump on him and gets another boot on the counter from the mat. Good. But yeah, we go. He, like, starts Savio up as we go to commercials. And I was like, this. That. This is the important part, not the rest of the sequence. The fact that he did the thing. He did the Hulk thing, even though he's Savio Vega. This is what I care about. That's what's worth noting, folks. [01:26:34] Speaker B: This is what classic wrestling is all about. Pumping your fists and shaking your arms a little bit. [01:26:39] Speaker A: Like, stopping your boot. If you're Bark Gun, you know, we come back at the crowd. [01:26:47] Speaker B: The crowd gives you power. [01:26:48] Speaker A: That's totally what it is. So we come back for commercial. Nice little sequence. That ends with Savio running into Hebner for a ref bump. You know, I go. Marlena brings Gold, does the bolt belt for some good old fashioned cheating. But Savio keeps super kicking his head off instead. Again, just like stop it like smacking his hand away, but boot in the face. He does it like twice and it's great. And like Tim White's like trying to wake him up. So like Timmy's out there too. So you got the two refs. He finally, finally Savio's like this and he grabs the belt and hits Goldust with the belt and goes for the pin and like Headner crawls towards him and gives it to him. But Tim White, Tim White, Tim White buds. He saw, he saw the, the belt hit and unfortunately he decides that he's gonna be a little, a little sneaker about it. So. Party pooper. Everyone's happy though. Savio's new IC champ. Woohoo. Gold dust. Tim White saw the belt shot though. So he gets, he gets Gorilla Monsoon out here and he like reaches over and holds up Gold Gold Death's arm. Like no, he won. So like Gorilla comes out and explains it to the fink. The crowd's mad. Finkle says Gorilla is stripping gold dust of the title and the crowd like cheers like yeah. And then he's like yay, the title will be vacant. [01:28:13] Speaker B: Which is my reaction as well. This is dumb. [01:28:18] Speaker A: This was totally unnecessary. Savio doesn't win, but next week there will be a rematch and the winner will get the title. So they just like delayed the end of this feud by a week with. Okay, delightful. [01:28:33] Speaker B: Like that's not mad about. [01:28:34] Speaker A: I'm not mad at all. [01:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I could watch Goldie and Savio go at it. [01:28:38] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:28:39] Speaker B: Any times. Like they have fantastic chemistry together. [01:28:41] Speaker A: Exactly. I would watch like a whole, a whole program of this over several pay per views. But they, they don't have that kind of. They're cowards. They don't. They're not have the bravery they really are. Yeah, they could, they couldn't actually give us that. So now they're like showing us Brett crying in the back after Wrestlemania, like yelling get out. Get out. Get out. [01:29:06] Speaker B: Get out. [01:29:07] Speaker A: Please get out. Please get out. I need. Oh. So he leaves without showering, tells the cameraman that he's gonna off for a while and they bleep it. Which is like oh, edgy. And this is after. Yeah. Ultimate warriors said last week on the, on the. Yeah. But they bleeped it because it wasn't alive. [01:29:28] Speaker B: So he Forget that canned stuff. [01:29:31] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. They then decide they're gonna catch up with him in Germany because I guess that's what off means, is he. He's gonna go rest, hustle in Germany. [01:29:39] Speaker B: I know when I know how to take a break, I go to Germany. [01:29:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I go to bond Germany. Yeah. Yeah. So you got bread. [01:29:47] Speaker B: Think of a reason to, like, why are they in Germany? Oh, it's definitely not a house show. [01:29:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not. It's not a house show. It's a house show. I mean, Diesel called him from Germany, too. It's like, why are all these guys going from Germany? [01:30:01] Speaker B: Why did everybody go to Germany? What do they like about it so much over there? [01:30:04] Speaker A: It's the river. The Brett's by the water. It's beautiful. He explains it. He's explaining to us. It did look really nice. He's, like, complaining about the finish, which is pretty funny to me. Like, yeah, dude, we know. We. We. We're there. We watched it. It sucked. It's. It sucked for you. It was great for us. It was dramatic. Then they cut to where he must have been asked if he would ever leave for WCW because of it, you know, I'm not saying what company. Wouldn't you. I'd never leave because it'd be a step down. You know, even. Even though they're giving out. I hear they're giving out a lot of money, you know, and, you know, I crave respect over money. And I'm like, buddy, you should have listened to your own advice. The foreshadowing there, like, that's. We. We end RAW with unintentional foreshadowing after starting it with some, too. Like, it's like, buddy, this is not. You think you got screwed now, Brit? You're. You're gonna. [01:31:06] Speaker B: It's so funny because, like, they. They basically set up that, like, they. They told the story of the Montreal screw job here. [01:31:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:13] Speaker B: But it's like, actually a storyline because that's like, his. His whole thing is that, like, I got screwed. Like, there's. I was told I was wrestling an Iron man match and not an Iron man match. Plus, you know. Yeah, he's got to beat me. [01:31:26] Speaker A: Yep. So that's got a point. He's got a point. [01:31:29] Speaker B: In K fan, Brett is always right. [01:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Brett is always right. If rules existed, like, it actually mattered, he would be right. Brett is always right, and he was right. America stinks. [01:31:41] Speaker B: America stinks. [01:31:42] Speaker A: America stinks. [01:31:42] Speaker B: Go Canada. Congratulations to Canada on winning the Four nations hockey game last night, too. Good job, guys. [01:31:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't know anything about. About that, but good on you. Good. I'm not sure what. What the. What the Canadian version of, like, Kapa is, but, like, they speak King on Klingon up there, right? I don't know. [01:32:03] Speaker B: I'm sure they do. Yeah. [01:32:04] Speaker A: I'm sure some of them probably Klingon. [01:32:07] Speaker B: With the Quebec Quent. [01:32:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:32:08] Speaker B: I don't know what that would sound like. [01:32:10] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I gotta get Liz Randall Renal back on the Hidden Canadian. I was like, like, do they speak Cleon in Quebec? Holy. Oh, God. All right, we need. We need to finish this show because I'm getting loopy. This has gone long. [01:32:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you have a favorite match of the week? I feel like. I feel like I know what mine was. [01:32:35] Speaker B: Mine would be actually now that we've talked about Goas and Savio. [01:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:32:42] Speaker B: I think I got to give it to Goldie and Saviour. [01:32:45] Speaker A: Goldie and Sa. [01:32:47] Speaker B: That was such a really good match. I almost said Austin and Gun. [01:32:50] Speaker A: I was gonna say I was gonna give it to Austin and Gun because that was really. [01:32:53] Speaker B: That was a really good match. But, like, I just. The more I think about Goldust versus Vega, it's like. Like, it's. It's. [01:33:00] Speaker A: They. [01:33:00] Speaker B: They told like a very good story and Savio was like, probably the perfect opponent for Gold Dust. Like the character. Gold Dust. [01:33:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:33:07] Speaker B: Got it. He really had so much chemistry. Like, it was such a fun match too. The ending was stupid as as hell. Yeah. But it was such a good match. [01:33:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a great match. Except that ending. And. And that's so very raw. But that's also been happening a lot on Nitro. I think that's just a thing of this era. Like they want. Everything's gotta be screwy. I say that's reeks of Hogan. That's the Hogan of it all. Or. And. And sometimes the dusty of it all, the dusty finish, you know, like, it's. Yeah, but not really. [01:33:37] Speaker B: But I haven't thought about that. They did do a dusty finish for that. Did they? [01:33:40] Speaker A: Yeah, they do for Dust. [01:33:43] Speaker B: For Gold Dust, a dusty finish. [01:33:45] Speaker A: Yep. It makes sense. I would say ask you who won this week, but we already know. [01:33:51] Speaker B: I said it out the bat. [01:33:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Begrudgingly. Raw. Yeah. I would say Raw didn't win, but Nitro lost. You know what I mean? Like, Raw, Raw didn't win. Kind of like Brett said, like, he didn't beat me. He won, but he didn't beat me. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you so much for. Yeah. Fantastic. You're. You're very good. You're a. A wonderful guest. Erica, thank you for coming back a third time. [01:34:20] Speaker B: Thanks for having me. [01:34:21] Speaker A: You are so good at the show. I was gonna say you're good at this show, but how are you good at this show? [01:34:27] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:34:28] Speaker A: That's a weird thing to be good at. Yeah. [01:34:30] Speaker B: I don't know. I got. I was. I got hammered by the uncensored. But, like, the main thing. I'm sober. [01:34:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, the Pat. The Patreon. Sometimes Erica's drunk, but one time. One time I said sometimes I was giving you, you know, leeway to do it again. So just in case, in the meantime, you have any thing you want to promote or things you want to point people towards or point them away from. [01:34:59] Speaker B: Well, we talked about doing Sawyer's podcast. I did do an episode of that. [01:35:05] Speaker A: International Object. [01:35:06] Speaker B: Thank you. I was just about to look that up. The International Object Podcast. I did an episode of that with Sawyer. It was a lot of fun. I have Blue sky at Skagmart. Blue Sky. You can find me there if you really want to follow me. And I'm working on launching a blog. It's going to be called Transitional Champion. [01:35:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:35:25] Speaker B: So that's my announcement for that. So keep an eye out for that. [01:35:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Announces. I like announces. I love when my friends do things. Do the things we do the things we do the things over here, folks. This thing that we as. This thing we do, as they like to say about pro wrestling. [01:35:42] Speaker B: And we do the deal. [01:35:44] Speaker A: That thing we. Yeah, we do the deal. This thing we do. Triple Paul. God, I hate when they say that. Because they're trying the India industry. Industry. This thing we did. Trying to make themselves sound like mobsters and they just. They sound stupid. All right, that's how we're ending it. Triple H. Thank you, everyone, for listening. You can find us on Blue sky at mnffpod, B Sky Social and Patreon, if you want to hear Drunk Erica talk about uncensored while we watch it. Patreon.commnff pod let's see. Goofs and Graps. Oh, yeah, the store there, that's Garrick Smid. Store. Store. And go find some wrestling related merchandising. I should put out some more stuff there. It's been a while, but otherwise, we will see you next time. Thank you, folks. More raw vs nitro on Monday night. Fake Fights. Okay, bye. Ghost Coast Studios. [01:36:46] Speaker B: Thanks for listening.