Can Warrior come out to play? w/ Kennedy Cooper

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The following is from Ghost Coast Studios. [00:00:02] Speaker B: The world's first and only podcast network. I just want to say Owen Hart did nothing wrong. [00:00:23] Speaker A: Welcome back to Monday Night Fake Fights, where I, Garrick Taylor, she. They am doing a rewatch of the Monday Night wars and continuing to make it everyone else's problem, too. At the same time, sharing is caring. This week's esteemed victim is. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Owen Hart. No, it's me. It's Kennedy Cooper. You knew it wasn't Owen Hart. [00:00:51] Speaker A: You see, the thing that's great, though, is that Owen would have loved the fact that that's where you went. He would be like, no, go with it. Yes and yes and. Or whatever. The Canadian version of yes and is. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Something like that. [00:01:07] Speaker A: A boot. I've had. I've had so many, like, like, stealth Canadian guests. I've told people you have to tell me or it's entrapment, but it's not right. It's not. Certainly not right. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Especially because, you know, now with the current situation, it could be considered a national security risk. Oh, Canadian guests on. You know. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Oh, my God, Liz. Shark Queen. I'm sorry, but you've become problematic. I know you live in. You live in California now, but, like, you're a lady that says a boot, and now that's a problem. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you live in California now, but where are your loyalties, really? [00:01:47] Speaker A: Is it. Yeah. Is it Hollywood or is it with the maple leaf? I was gonna say, is it Hollywood or maple syrup? Come on, now, we can't go too hard, because I just realized what we got the new podcast host. We should tell people. Hi. Kennedy Cooper. Shit Poster podcaster, fellow Ghost Coast Network person with a new show, which is part of why I wanted to bring you on here, but we could talk more about that later. [00:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah, but here was something to promote today, which is that NCAA President Charlie Baker's address. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Go. God damn it. Oh, I'm probably gonna have to censor that for my own mental health, but that's okay. We can. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Will you, like, bleep it, though, so it's fun? [00:02:45] Speaker A: Yes, of course, of course, of course. I have a special button just for it. I got. [00:02:51] Speaker B: I got Massachusetts. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, no. I laughed so hard, I pulled my headphones out. Oh, no. Oh, we are. We're a podcasting mess, but. Oh, God damn it. I'm laughing, so I can't remember what the. I was gonna say point B. I'm sorry. [00:03:10] Speaker B: I'm real out of pocket lately. [00:03:14] Speaker A: Well, you know what? Shit's happening. Shit just keeps happening. [00:03:22] Speaker B: That's how I'm coping. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it's being a little more out of pocket than usual. Holy hell. Oh, my God. Well, speech. I don't know where we were, but we're here now. It's raw only this week. No night. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Holy hell. [00:03:42] Speaker B: I will say. Okay, to kick this off, I've been on a couple of eps now. [00:03:48] Speaker A: No, you are our second three Pete guests. [00:03:51] Speaker B: I'm a 3P. I was my third time. But also watching this stuff barrages your brain in this way, that is. I'm like, I might have been on this show two or eight times. I'm not really sure. [00:04:07] Speaker A: No, you are. You are my ultimate. You are my ultimate Joel. You are my ultimate test subject of, like, I just occasionally sit you down and experiment on you. I, former guest and friend of the pod, if you will. Sawyer also has brought back, uh, their show, uh, International Object, which is. I mean, that's just funny. Uh, and had a former guest on there. Uh, and, uh, it is. I think I'm gonna be on there as well. And, uh, they talked about how great this show is because it's just, like, I just bring, like, people on who are, like, journalists, people who have, like, degrees in things and of that nature, and I make them watch squ matches on nitro and, like, it's just a wonderful. And I see what that does to. To various brains. So, like, thank you. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Good. It's not good what you're doing to people. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Well, we gotta be careful. I remember we gotta be careful because, like, we got that new podcasting host, so it tells you where people are that listen. And we got a lot of Canada. [00:05:13] Speaker B: So I'm gonna talk some more about Canada. So if that's gonna offend you, just turn the show up. [00:05:20] Speaker A: And I'm just. I'm going to allow it to happen because I want the prophecy to be fulfilled. Y'all should bomb the Baldwins. I'm just saying. I was promised this as a child and it warped my fragile little mind. So speaking again, segue for a second time of warping fragile little minds Raw. We start off with Yoko vs Vader, the match that I wanted for WrestleMania, and I think the match that was supposed to be Vader's first big feud, but when he came back, he initially he got injured, like, right away, right after debuting. [00:05:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. But I wanted to say I'm sorry. [00:06:01] Speaker A: No, please, please. [00:06:02] Speaker B: What I. What I. Before we got distracted by me being a 3peak guest and then falling down some rabbit holes, all that. I was gonna say that, you know, When I first started watching raw, I was like, this sucks. Now that I'm a little further in, I'm starting to see how Rock could have won the wrestling war. [00:06:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:29] Speaker B: Like, it's starting to. It's starting to make more sense. You're coming not because it's great, but because it's. I don't know, it's something. It's more of the stuff. [00:06:41] Speaker A: Yes, it's more. It's more concentrated, the stuff. And like, it's. It's. It's new. Different things. Like, I don't think we had a Vader when you were here last. Like, maybe. I can't remember last time you were here. [00:06:55] Speaker B: We might have had hinted at the last time I was here, but. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, you're like, pre Rumble. Yeah, that makes sense. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Like, talking about, hey, Vader. Vader. And I was like, what? Why is there a guy named Darth Vader? [00:07:11] Speaker A: Oh, my God. See, the fun. The fun bit of that is, like, the people who came up. I. I think he got that name. I think it was in. It was because first he wrestled in Germany, and then he got big in Japan. So I think it was. Vader was like. Literally. Because, like, Vader is just father, you know? So, like, there, I think they were trying to, like, get away with that, and then they went to Japan. It's like, well, we got. Call Vader. You know, like, Vader. And then they tried to, like. I forget there's this convoluted thing where they tried to come up with this reasoning that actually it was like an. In an. Like an ancient Japanese cultural thing. But I'm pretty sure it was because they just didn't want to get in trouble for using the name Vader. It's Vader. Like, you know what you're doing? Like, this is wrestling. We know what this is. Yeah, you. You got a Vader now. Things have been happening since last time. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah, they were really. They were really going for some gimmicks this time. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Really leaning into shit. [00:08:18] Speaker B: Like, something I noticed is, like, we're getting into the era where Vince McMahon starts to inflate everyone's weight and height just even more than before to incredible new levels. Like when. When Yokozuna and Bader get in the ring, he's like, yokozuna at 650 pounds. Like, dude, what are you talking about? [00:08:41] Speaker A: There's no way. Like, there's no way. I mean, Rodney was a big, big American, but, like, there's no way he was doing that. He did not pick up Big Van Vader and Samoan drop him like right in the beginning of this, man. [00:09:01] Speaker B: I admit it's not like a, it's not like a crazy exact. It's not like he added like 200 pounds to it, you know, like, like Yokozuna. What. [00:09:10] Speaker A: I think he was pretty big, but I think, I mean I would maybe give him 550. I, I don't. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I think like 5:50 or so is probably more realistic, which is still like Jesus Christ. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Huge dude. [00:09:26] Speaker B: But yeah, just, just, just immediately I, I feel like the first Rye watched there was like he wasn't really doing it to that level, you know. But then this time he's like Yokozuna at 650 pounds, Vader at 450 pounds. It's like neither of these guys weigh quite as much as you're saying. Yeah, you're adding like 50 to 100 pounds to each of these guys. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think Vader may be cracking 400 and he is this still where he's mostly muscle. Like he hasn't gotten to be like fat Vader. That being said, we are going to get to the point where these are the two guys that they send to like basically fat camp because like they were getting so big in their, their levels were so off that they weren't going to be able to get licensed by athletic commissions and like they were like gonna not be able to work because they were so big. And I guess as the story goes, this, you know, representation matters folks, now more than ever. And I gotta tell you, these guys make me feel seen because they, they became buddies because they accompany. Made them go to a fat camp and they just snuck off, off and got kfc. And I gotta tell you, that's, that is, that is what I would have done. Like, like, I like to be seen on television like this. And for me, representation includes the Mastodon, Leon White, Vader and that, that, that's just, you know, everything's. Everyone has a different, a different swing. You know, we got, we gotta let go. Just let go. I'm, I'm, I'm floundering here because it's been a hell of a two weeks. [00:11:01] Speaker B: Yeah. But honestly, if you told me that Vader was £300, I would find that a lot more believable. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And he, but he's like, like a tall guy, so I could give him 400 because there's a lot of, there's. [00:11:18] Speaker B: I've known guys like that. Like, I just don't buy it. Like, you know, one of my good friends in High school was like, six foot four something or. Yeah, six foot three. Huge dude who wrestled and played football. And the funny thing, too, is that in his family, he was. He was. Everybody made fun of him. He was the little one. Even his mom was taller than him. [00:11:46] Speaker A: That's wild. [00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah. But at school, we were all like, this guy can destroy anyone. What are you talking about? [00:11:53] Speaker A: I knew a couple kids like that. Like, you know, like, people freak out when they see, like, Brock Lesnar and shit like that. But I went to high school with a couple of guys that, like, they weren't necessarily the size, like, like, pumped out as Brock Lesnar because I don't think they did as much steroids, but, like, they have that same general, like. Like, physique. And, like, these are the guys who would just show up with. With, like, sandwich bread bags full of sandwiches. Like, they turn the whole loaf into various sandwiches, and they just eat them throughout the day. Yeah, that guy. Because as soon as. Yeah, as soon as school's done, he's going to. Oh, man. [00:12:36] Speaker B: Thanksgiving at his house was lit. I went to that a couple years. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Imagine how many turkeys. Like, three. He's gonna get one of them. [00:12:46] Speaker B: You know what I remember the most clearly, though, is just the. The. They had a huge, fancy fondue fountain. [00:12:53] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Who doesn't love that at a. At a thing like that, you know? [00:12:58] Speaker A: No, I want some flowing cheese. Absolutely. This is a holiday. God damn it. [00:13:05] Speaker B: A restaurant sketches me out or with too many strangers, but like, a smallish, like, small to medium ish, like, family event where it's like, basically known entity types. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:13:17] Speaker B: A fondue fountain choice. [00:13:21] Speaker A: I know that pre covered. We went to one one buffet place one time that had a chocolate fountain, and, like, we took the kid there and just blew kiddo's mind. Like, like, you. You can take any number of these things and just stick them in there. What? Like, yeah, greatest thing go to town. [00:13:45] Speaker B: What do you want to taste chocolate on today? [00:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing pineapples and marshmallows, and this is like. I think this is cheesecake. Stick it in. Oh, man. [00:13:53] Speaker B: We put chocolate on everything. Turkey. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Like that. All that sketch with Ken Thompson. Like. Like, just like they cook everything with chocolate. Yeah, exactly that. No, let's go. Let's do that. That makes sense. [00:14:09] Speaker B: I think we're supposed to be talking about wrestling, but I'm pretty high. [00:14:11] Speaker A: I was gonna say, the point of us talking about all this food. Vader and Yoko, big guys. [00:14:19] Speaker B: Not as big as. [00:14:21] Speaker A: As. [00:14:22] Speaker B: As claimed. And the Thing is, is like even if you can't even, you just have to guess with your eye looking at these fellas because they, if you look this up online they'll say, you know, it'll say £500. Yeah, £500 and six foot eight. And you're just looking at this guy going that's not real. But it's a part of their brand so they can't betray that. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Also it's, it's early unreality because that's where this comes from is like literally kayfabe. It's just like you don't know like unless you're there like because you can only know a lot of this is going, you know, like this practice starts pre Internet. So it's like these guys are as tall and as heavy as I say they are, damn it. And like that's kind of what you got to take it. So yes, more about the actual wrestling which, well, not the actual. I should say Jerry Lawler is not on commentary which is awesome. We get Mr. Perfect instead. Hell of a wrestler. One of my favorite drop in commentators ever and a friend of Bobby. He. So it's like think there's no Nitro this week but we still get a Bobby Light. [00:15:33] Speaker B: This guy brought pretty good commentary I thought. [00:15:37] Speaker A: Oh yeah, he, he's a much better heel commentator than Jerry Lawler. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Like oh yeah, Jerry Lawler. Annoying. Just sucks. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Just said there's not much to say about God. Just sucks. Just hate. Did they mention their high folks? Hey, I said God. So how. Sing out. She sucks. And we haven't gotten to his match yet because that's why he's got a. I know. [00:16:05] Speaker B: That's why I'm just like, I'm, I'm mulling over what to say is because I'm like we're going to talk about him a lot more in a few minutes. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Yeah. So like more importantly there, there's other historic things here in, in that Vince lets us know that this is going to be a thing that happens. Now he talked to USA Network and they're going to let us start three minutes earlier every week. Now if that sounds weird and petty and strange, that's because it is. This is a thing. On the Monday night Wars, Nitro and Ross start to like try to start before each other more and more every week. And they've been doing it, but they haven't been talking about it. It's just a thing that they've been doing. So now of course Vince is like, I see, I see what you're doing. I'm better in you three minutes. Suck it. Like. Like, he's. Oh, my God. And we are well on our way to this podcast getting harder to book, because these shows are going to become two hours long each, and I've got to ask people to watch four hours of wrestling. And that's. That. That feels like. That feels like a big ask. Yeah, like, the two hours, not that hard. [00:17:15] Speaker B: You might have to, like, break it. Break it up or something. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Yeah, like, that's getting rough. [00:17:23] Speaker B: I don't know what you're gonna do at that point. Oh, I just had to watch this one thing to be on here today, which is, like, I know. Easy ticket. [00:17:34] Speaker A: I'm gonna bring you on for the first two hour Raw just to watch. [00:17:40] Speaker B: That, I guess. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Psychic damage. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Speaking of psychic damage, that's what happens to Yokozuna's leg. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I was just. Thank you for picking up that setup, because I was like, we got. I gotta say something about damage, because this guy gets up. So this match ends with a KFAB injury. Vader. Vader bombs Yoko's leg. And it almost sounds like Vince smacks the mic at the moment of impact. Like he did a quick and dirty Foley work to make it sound like his leg broke. [00:18:16] Speaker B: I didn't even hear the sound. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Oh, I only heard it because I watched this twice for some reason. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Just like in all the commotion, they were like, oh, did you hear that pop of his leg? I was like, no, I didn't. What are you talking about exactly? All I could hear was, like, the crowd cheering and the referee shouting at. [00:18:37] Speaker A: Them and in the bell ringing. Yeah. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Slam sounds, you know? [00:18:42] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. But that's why they mentioned it, like, four times, because it didn't exist. So they have to really. It's the prestige. God damn it. [00:18:53] Speaker B: That kind of thing that, you know, it's that type of thing where. And I'm not trying to say anything about wrestling fans in particular. This is like, almost any group of people is kind of susceptible to this at times. Especially, like, if you're just really determined to, like, just, like, you really just don't want to seem like a fool ever, you know? And, you know, like, after the show, people be, oh, I heard the pop. I heard the pop. And it's like, hear it. You know? But, like, they don't want to seem like people ask, did you hear the pop? Oh, yeah, I heard it. Yeah. You know, right? [00:19:32] Speaker A: And then if. If you were at home, you probably did because he totally, like, smacked the mic or something. It was like a really weird and was like, okay, I see what you did there. Like, I think something or something like they did. Well, it's like when you slap your. Slap your thigh on a super kick, like, yeah, like, I don't know. I've kicked someone in the face before. It doesn't make a slap sound. So I don't know where they got that from. [00:19:57] Speaker B: Those refs, un. Unsung heroes of. Of wrestling and the way the ref was stand in terms of just, you know, they're doing lots of stuff to maintain the kayfabe all the time that they're. [00:20:11] Speaker A: They're basically orchestrating for it. [00:20:13] Speaker B: You would. You would miss some of the. That they're doing because they're keeping time even. [00:20:18] Speaker A: They're letting them know you got this much time left to kill, basically. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can sometimes. Sometimes catch some of the hand signs when they're like, okay, speed it up, or okay, you know, you've got. You got a little time to kill her. [00:20:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Especially now in modern times, you get a lot because the mics are better on. On HD cameras and so you hear them talking all the time. I love it. Some people hate it, but I'm like, nah, dude, you're just. You're just a crotchety old man. You're like. You're just like, I should be more like, no, I love hearing guys spots to each other. It makes me pop every time. I'm like, yeah, it's fake. Yeah. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Occasionally you hear him whisper something to each other. [00:20:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that was part of the fun of like. [00:21:01] Speaker B: But yeah, so I. I just mentioned this in particular because the ref was kind of standing in a funny spot when it happened. And I'm like. He was pretty obscured to both the audience and the camera at that moment. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Funny. Wonder what that was. [00:21:20] Speaker B: You know, did he just do the old trick of put your finger in your mouth and make that little. You know. [00:21:28] Speaker A: They could have got all out and got like gone to the auxiliary percussion of the raw band and gotten like the. The slap, you know, like the. Just two pieces of wood, smack them together. [00:21:39] Speaker B: Maybe had one of those poppers in his pocket. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Oh, I am sure there are plenty of guys in the back who have poppers pocket, but that's an entirely different. [00:21:48] Speaker B: No, no, not that kind, though. You know those things that. It was like you. You'd like push it. It was like a half. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:58] Speaker B: And then it would go like. And like, jump up in the air. Like the ref. The ref. The ref just had one of those in his pocket. [00:22:06] Speaker A: He had Gone to a church fair earlier that day. Yes, exactly. So he trade a couple tickets. So more importantly, they end the match. And here's the. Here's the thing that gets me, though. They give Vader the win, which seems kind of unfair. Like, when you go no contest if he's too injured to. To keep going, they straight up give it to, like, what's stopping him from going, oh, so I just gotta injure the. Out of every opponent from the year on out in the future. And it's Vader time all the time. Like, what. [00:22:40] Speaker B: I mean, what felt like, you know, they. They want to build up his. His. His villain power. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:22:48] Speaker B: But I mean, come on, they've gotta just get. Hand him this thing and, you know, just like. And every. You know, I mean that. Everybody loves a dirty win for a villain, so, you know, that's par for the course. [00:23:04] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:23:06] Speaker B: The refs always call for the villains at goofball times, and that's just what we're here for, you know, so. But of course, surprising. But. Oh, my God, I loved how far they took this bit. Although arguably some of it is offensive. [00:23:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, no, I was gonna say. So here. Here's what the problem is, though, because, like, they go to. It's a great. Like, I agree with everything you're saying. [00:23:31] Speaker B: And then it's not even really arguable. Just so to some of it is offensive. [00:23:36] Speaker A: It's offensive. But also to your point and to the point of, like, all of this is. What you're saying is great. Yes. But what WWE always does is they go like, awesome, we found that line. Now when we come back from commercial, we're going to cross that line. So, like, that's what they do every time. So, like, they bring out the stretcher for Yoko. Right? Because it's. It's Yoko and he. We love him and he's hurt, so we got to get him out. They come back from Kershaw, and once again, it's time to fat joke on Yoko. They can't get him on the stretcher, so they bring out a forklift. And I refuse to believe that Pat Patterson is forklift certified. No, no, this is just part of this. [00:24:24] Speaker B: But. But what I love is just, you know, for the rest of the show, there's just this recurring bit where Vader just attacks Yokosuna's leg again. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Yep. I was gonna say because, like, they come. He comes back at one point later, we'll talk about now. We can skip it later. But at one point, they come back from commercial later. And it's like, here's Yoko. Poor Rodney continuing to sell. Like he's going for the Emmy, getting put into an ambulance. And then, yeah, Vader just comes out and hits him in the leg with a chair again. Like, all right, we want you to really understand this guy's a piece of slick back hair, sloppy wet stakes. This guy sucks. So, like, the, the we got it. We understand Vader is the bad guy because he thinks we're all stupid. So Vince gets in the ring, which is like, okay, yeah, this is great. He says he's back. And then almost as though he's literally talking Bischoff and, and Hulk Hogan. WCW says, wait till you hear this reaction. The Ultimate Warrior. And everyone goes off. They're like, everyone. Kennedy, you got. I'm sorry, I, I, this is its own content war. You got the Ultimate Warrior with a mic in his hand. I'm sorry. Welcome, welcome. How you feeling? [00:25:45] Speaker B: Fired for failing a drug test. [00:25:48] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Even better. Even better. He didn't fail the drug test. He refused to take it. [00:25:56] Speaker B: Oh, damn. [00:25:59] Speaker A: He just straight up said, no. It's like, well, we're gonna have to fire you then. I'm fired. So, yes. Welcome back. After being hated. [00:26:10] Speaker B: I'm not a medical doctor of any kind, but, you know, guy who refused a drug test and got fired from the wwf, who died of a heart attack young. You put it together. [00:26:24] Speaker A: He was perfect. [00:26:26] Speaker B: Maniac. When he's on stage, well, yeah, he. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Runs out blowing air and shaking the ropes like, ready to kick ass. But it's for an interview. And it's like, what are you doing? You don't have to run out like he does. He only has the one trick. [00:26:39] Speaker B: So, like, to be fair, to be fair, I've watched a couple of, like, a beauty type things now. [00:26:46] Speaker A: Yeah, you have seen a few. [00:26:48] Speaker B: This is not the worst. [00:26:49] Speaker A: Well, yeah, and it's a re day. [00:26:51] Speaker B: He had energy, you know, he, he did seem to want to be there and to, like, bring some kind of passion to being there that was, like, not insignificant. [00:27:03] Speaker A: And people are happy to see him, like, so, like, no. And he's a force. Former WWE champ. So, like, it is a big deal. However, Mr. Perfect on commentary decides he's going to be the voice of the entire locker room. He says, what does everyone see in this guy? Which is just the realest thing Kurt Henig has ever said because, like, everybody, everybody hated working with the Warrior. Like, he just was not good at what he did. And he's great for business. And he's great for the entertainment of it all because, like, look at him. But like, he was not a good wrestler. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I did like, whatever exactly was going on with his face. [00:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Good makeup tonight. He. He absolutely. He looked like a. Almost like a dangle. Like Warrior makeup. It was really great. So, like, now it's this wonderful thing. [00:27:57] Speaker B: I don't know how to quantify or describe it exactly, but, you know, he had kind of a cool look. He brought some energy to it. [00:28:03] Speaker A: He's tassely. [00:28:05] Speaker B: It would have been better if they had let him speak less. [00:28:07] Speaker A: Yeah. But he's here for an interview. Like, yeah, Warrior is better when he's speaking less. But Vince asks him, where has he been these three years since you decided not to take a drug test? [00:28:21] Speaker B: And Mr. Perfect says, Montana. That's. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Again, it's like we got our own special heenan just for RAW this week. Like, it's. Baby, it's so good. But Warrior goes full liver king. He's like, I go where all and go where they are entitled to go. Deep, deep, deep in the mind and the voices don't die and the spirit of the Warrior. And somewhere a manosphere youtuber is just jerking off furiously. So it's just a weird. And then we get the gay hero and hot wife. Gold dust comes out because he's like, this sounds gay. I'm in. Because of course. So like warriors all disgusted. [00:29:10] Speaker B: It was funny too, because I was already getting gay vibes from the Warrior. And then I was like, a gold dust is coming out perfect. [00:29:21] Speaker A: Exactly. This works. A man who famously said queer and don't make the world work. And I was like, oh, this is. This is gonna be a great time. I didn't know I had memory hold this. I didn't realize that Warrior and Gold does had a little program here. I imagine this, this like this punishment. [00:29:39] Speaker B: Right? [00:29:39] Speaker A: I was 3P, guess you understand. I was just gonna say I'm pretty sure this was a punishment because he's Dusty's kid. Because that's how this goes every time. So no good. Good call, Kennedy. See, you're starting to understand the brain worm. One with the brain worm. So Goldust does his in hail thing and then Warrior like haali grunt in response. This is cinema. I mean, come on. Like, what the. [00:30:16] Speaker B: So like, yeah, Warrior's making like, like. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Like he does this thing where. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Like system of a down noises or something, you know? [00:30:28] Speaker A: You know, he's got like. He's. He's down with the sickness. Yes. He is disturbed. Like he makes A sound that every time he does it, it just makes me cringe because that's the same sound my dad would make before he would like, Hakaloogie. And I'm like, can you just not do that? Jim, if you could please cut it out. [00:30:47] Speaker B: Your behavior from the ultimate warrior. [00:30:50] Speaker A: What I love about it is that he. He, like, there's an instance of this. So, like, Goldust, he comes out and he's like, come out and play, Warriors, 1979. I was like, all right, yeah. So after a bit of a homoerotic good time, Warrior says, hold it right there, freak. And, like, goes off on him. Goldust says, maybe you can be Superman. And Warrior, like, pummels his chest like King Kong. And, like, Goldust gets this look on his face like he is confused and confounded because this guy is being the weird one. And, like, that's the moment where I. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Was like, he's, like, struggling to out weird, this guy so hard. Like, like. Like before, when I've seen gold dust paired up against, like, like, yeah, yeah. And Razor Ramon is like a. He's like a serious cool guy. But she's like, yeah, yeah, I take myself seriously and I don't mess around. I'm here to bust some heads, and I'm not here to crack a bunch of jokes kind of guy, you know? And so, like, pairing that up with gold dust, like, was, like, working a lot better in some ways. Although, not to say that this didn't work in its own unique way, but just it, like, you know, like, that was like a more. That was a more like, yeah, of course. Of course. Like, that formula made sense. Like, yeah, gold dust is getting under the cool guy's skin. But then it's like, here. It's like gold dust is like, hey, daddy, want to come over to my place? And. And. And. And the Warrior's like, you're just like. You're just like, okay. Like. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. He's doing his. He. I like it when singer. [00:32:45] Speaker B: Stank. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Yeah. God damn it. But yeah, no, to me, that. That's the genius of gold dust is that he, like, looks confused and fre guy, and everyone's cheering this guy for being like the Al, like, alpha macho guy. And. And Goldas is like, wow, that's weird. And I'm like, yeah, see, he gets it. He gets me. So Warrior says, hey, hey, I know you're queer, but you. And he. I'm not into that. And he actually says, so. Like, that's a 1996. I don't know if south park did the episode yet where they made a big deal about saying on tv, but they said on tv and the crowd goes nuts. And Vince looks very pleased with himself. It's not live, though, so I'm sure they bleeped it. And he's like, ah, that's how he got away with it. We're gonna say, so whatever. Warriors has some more queerphobic gibberish. And it's whatever. [00:33:44] Speaker B: And as I understand it, the Warrior only lasts like a couple of months. Back on the wwf. [00:33:49] Speaker A: No, this is not gonna last long. Like I was. That's another thing. Like, they're. They're building this up for I in your house. And it's just like, okay, sure. Like, he came back at WrestleMania and he squashed Triple Paul and. And that was fun and good because trips. And now what do you do with them? Because, like, it's just. It's Warriors. So they're going to give him. It makes sense. What do you do with Ultimate Warrior? You give him the intercontinental title belt. Because he looks good with a belt looking at me. So shiny. So that I'm guessing that's what they're going to do. And it just. I don't know if they actually pull the trigger because I don't know if I feel like by the time we get to this next pay per view, Kennedy, he's already gonna have done something wrong. Like, he's already gonna be on his shit list. So, like, I don't know. I'm kind of excited to get to this pay per view and see if this match even happens, but there you go. Woo. Ultimate warriors back. They gave him the queer this. [00:34:48] Speaker B: Wow. [00:34:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:50] Speaker B: I don't even know what to say about all that. Then we had our good friend the triple. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Triple ball. [00:35:01] Speaker B: The trips. [00:35:02] Speaker A: The trips. And he continues his class warfare. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Against a guy whose gimmick is wearing a back brace. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Question mark. Yeah, he's blue collar. He protects his back. I think that, like, that's what. That's what blue collar people do. Right. They protect their back. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Like some of the better WWF jobbers. This guy clearly knew what to do. The match was pretty solid. [00:35:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:39] Speaker B: I was gonna say not the best wrestler all the time, but seemed to be bringing some energy to this. [00:35:46] Speaker A: And he's getting better. I will give him that. And. And Duke the Dumpster Jarossi. It's just so fun. [00:35:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I was gonna say being paired up against, like, a really reliable jobber like that who, like, clearly has practiced like. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Like people. Yeah. [00:36:02] Speaker B: This week, you know, What? I mean, yeah, no, I was gonna. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Say, like, people give him because he's the guard. He's the trash guy gimmick. But like, he's a hell of a wrestler. This confirms to me I've seen a couple matches with him now because they've done the working class must pay. They've done this a couple times now. So. Like myself, the pig farmer, I believe. [00:36:25] Speaker B: Farm one. Yeah. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Yeah. First. First he went for the farmers, now he's going for the sanitation workers. And. And. And this is. This was better than the pig farmer. I was like, this guy got just a gimmick. He looks great here. Like, this match is worth checking out. Which I feel weird saying that about Duke the Dumpster Jarossi match. But like, dude, like, this is really good actually. But that's all I gotta really say about that. That's pretty good. Also the. The fact that commentary. Yeah. Pointed out because it's attitudinal. They make a point to talk about Sunny's boobs on the. The TV Guide channel. Which was kind of funny to me because, like, I actually used to watch the TV Guide channel because of the fact that they would show the people wrestling pre show. Even though I couldn't get the pay per view, I could watch the. The dark matches. And because it was on the TV guy channel. That is a thing they did. So like, they. They have to say. And Vince tries to make it less scandalous by saying that Mr. Perfect is talking about her slammies because she won two of them. One for best manager, one for best buns. Because that's better, right? Right. Like that's. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Wow. [00:37:38] Speaker A: Less SC I. There were signs. I hate this man. So anyways, yeah. Trips gets the pedigree eventually and that's that. Boo. Yeah. Because you can't kick out of that unless you're warrior. [00:37:51] Speaker B: You know, this is interesting now because it's like we've had two for two pretty good wrestling matches, right? Which is strange. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Because Vince hates wrestling and everyone watching this show. Hate. They must hate wrestling. Right? So instead of Ahmed Johnson and Davey Boy Smith wrestling because everyone hates that, they're gonna arm wrestle. [00:38:20] Speaker B: This was amusing, but it also felt like I'm not here for a arm wrestling match. What are you talking about? However, this whole thing was saved. This could have been a dumpster fire, but it was saved by our friend, friend of the show, Owen Hart. [00:38:45] Speaker A: You can't see it, but I'm like saluting dearly. [00:38:52] Speaker B: Saves this. [00:38:54] Speaker A: This is why he is beloved. He is out here to be Bulldogs flava flavor. And he is that. Yes. Best part of the whole segment. First, he complains that Ahmed is too oily, so it's unfair. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah, he has all these weird complaints. He keeps stopping the match before it starts. [00:39:12] Speaker A: He makes Ahmed wipe his arm off on the ref. Yeah. [00:39:15] Speaker B: The ref starts to get mad at him. Eventually a couple more refs show up so they can kick him out. Like. Like a whole good thing. It really, you know, he was the funniest wrestler that would not be that exciting otherwise. And also the. The. I don't know if that was really his wife or what, but the Bulldog's wife, she. She sells it in this whole thing. [00:39:43] Speaker A: She just continues to, like. No, they cut to her a few times and she just has this look. Like, is this. Like, this is up right, guys? Like, this is. [00:39:52] Speaker B: But at first she looks, you know, with. First when he comes out, she's like, oh, yeah, she looks. She looks proud and all that. And then later on, she looks a little like, oh, no. Like, you know, and it's just like. [00:40:04] Speaker A: What are they thinking? [00:40:05] Speaker B: Like, and the commentators are like, oh, his wife even looks horrified with what he's doing. And it was just like, oh, yeah, that's good. That's a good bit. That's a good bit. [00:40:14] Speaker A: Yeah. She's horrified by what he's doing because she comes from, like, a dynasty of a professional wrestling family. And you got her. Her wrestler has been doing this, Vince. Yes. She's terrified. So, like, eventually, yeah, but Owen gets not. Gets tossed out. The people freak out because nothing has changed. The crowd still loves when you get a year out of here bit. They finally do the thing and, like, Ahmed WINS eventually, while Mr. Perfect does the heel commentator role and says that he cheated. Of course. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And I liked. I. I like how they. They handled that whole thing. [00:40:56] Speaker A: They got to stretch it out. And they made it, you know, they tried. Got some interesting camera angles made, like, make you really see the struggle of it. I could give them that. I'll give them that. Fine. Hey. [00:41:09] Speaker B: By the time they had built it up with Owen Hart's incredible performance, you kind of wanted to see it. They didn't make it last too long. They put a little drama into it, and then it's over. And Ahmed Johnson wins. And then the British Bulldog has a tantrum and naturally it's the out of him, right? [00:41:32] Speaker A: And immediately he sets the table up in the corner for, like, a table spot and hits him with a chair. And I was like, ooh, a table spot. In WWF at this Point is a newish concept, but sure enough, they it up. I don't know if I've ever shown you botchamania, but there's a concept of the table not breaking because I am the table. And this is. This is April 8, 1996. Raw is an I am the table episode of Raw because he tries twice to throw Ahmed through this table in the corner. It's a spot we all know and love, right? And he's just. It's not breaking. It's just so, like, finally Davey says it. He picks the whole table up and just drops it. I don't know, just starts hitting him with the table and then jumping and stopping on to, like, squash. And the thing that got me the whole time is because we were talking about how great Owen was, and he's like, you gotta wipe your arm off on the riff. You're too oily. At one point, they show the table and this table is just. Just slick with it from both of them. [00:42:45] Speaker B: Such an oily table. Like the oiliest table I've ever seen. And I've worked in restaurants. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a safety gross restaurant. So, like, again, Owen was right. Owen Hart did nothing wrong. You were. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah, oily, oily table. I did appreciate. You know, you could see they must have had planned this as a plan B because, like, the jump onto the table move was very clearly rehearsed by both of them. [00:43:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, if this up, we're just gonna do this instead. Like, this is a good backup. Or they. They could have called it too, but, like, it was. It was. [00:43:29] Speaker B: They might have just also practiced that move separately, maybe even for another reason. And then they just did an audible, you know, like, it definitely worked out. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, no, that definitely looks like it hurt. [00:43:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's a cool looking move. You know, if you look closely, you can see the bulldog is jumping onto the part of the table that, you know does not hit him. Yeah, it does. Is not on top of Ahmed Johnson. [00:43:55] Speaker A: So, like, as I was watching, I was like, that probably just feels like you're getting, like, littlest hug from the table every time he jumps on. I was like, that's probably nice. Except for all the oil. [00:44:05] Speaker B: Some of the things look like they truly hurt. That one you could tell was like, actually like, oh, no, this is just a move they've got down. [00:44:11] Speaker A: Yeah, this is just a thing. Just sit there and act like this is devastating. Please. Oh, my God. [00:44:18] Speaker B: Slap the mat a little bit every time, you know, and really play it up. And so that was a fun one. I feel like every time I've seen Ahmed Johnson, he's getting like shafted by some heel, basically. Basically, yeah, he's like, he's like a face that's almost a jobber though. [00:44:40] Speaker A: Yeah, kinda. Good call. [00:44:44] Speaker B: He seems to exist to help heels boost their way up the ranks to some extent. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Yeah, because he had double J. Yeah, like they keep put. Yeah, no, you're right. They put him in, in, in these situations where he should, like, they're pushing him away but not pushing. It's like they're pushing him without pushing him because, like, how could you not push the guy? Look at him. Like, he's got everything. [00:45:08] Speaker B: Clearly super strong, super built. And so like whenever, like these people get these cheaty wins on him. Like, you don't have to feel like, like sometimes with the cheaty wins, you almost feel like, yeah, whatever, like he maybe he was maybe gonna win anyway. But like when these guys cheat over Ahmed Johnson, it's like, no, Ahmed Johnson would have won like. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that guy's a beast. Look at him like, exactly. [00:45:34] Speaker B: He's built as. What are you talking about? He hardly ever says anything. [00:45:41] Speaker A: He has titties. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Did you see those Titties flowers at the camera most of the time. And then every now and again he'll just, he'll just say like some crazy. [00:45:53] Speaker A: For like, and then. And then continue on his way. So. Yeah. Oh, God, I love Ahmed Johnson, but you're right, you keep seeing him in the worst. Oh, they just, they've already decided they don't know how to book them because they don't know how to book black guys because they're racist, basically. [00:46:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I could see that pretty easily. [00:46:14] Speaker A: It's a problem that they're still having at the company today. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we rounded out with something special. [00:46:24] Speaker A: Something special for you folks just to really, really make you Miss Nitro. We come back for commercial and back to actual wrestling. But yeah, main event, everything's like, okay, yeah, cool, actual wrestling. But first Diesel. Diesel has to come out to do the commentary booth. And already I'm like, wait a minute, this isn't actually going to be about wrestling, is it? So Kevin Nash, the guy who answers the question, what if a 7 foot tall dude was really high all the time? And then that's. That's it. That's Big Kev, baby. [00:47:01] Speaker B: I think you mean a six foot eight. [00:47:06] Speaker A: I'm, I will say this. I'm pretty sure Big Kev is a solid 7ft it. [00:47:12] Speaker B: He's like 6, 10, 6 11, I bet. Oh, maybe now you can't convince me, especially not after some of the. I. I've been looking at, like, the. The. The wrestling wikis and. [00:47:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, like, cage side or cage match or whatever. Yeah, the. [00:47:34] Speaker B: That they write down for these dudes, heights and weights and stuff. And it's like, man, like. Like, I know some of these dudes is real big, but, like, mo. Like there's like four people in the world that are seven foot two or. [00:47:49] Speaker A: Whatever, you know, and most of them are wrestlers. I'll give them that. [00:47:52] Speaker B: But yeah, I. I will give it that. Yeah. Like, you know, there are a few of them that are wrestling. So you. You have to. You have to admit, I mean, like, you know, you think back to, like, Andre the Giant. Yeah, right. Like. Like, you know, people talk about, like, seeing him in the ring and it's like you were spooked, man. You know? [00:48:14] Speaker A: Right. Because he's just huge. You can't be. Not be freaked out. But what's even really, like, crazier about Andre is the. The times that the. That, like, the most of us, like, on the national scale saw Andre. By the time we saw him, he was already, like, hurting and couldn't go like he used to. What's really. [00:48:35] Speaker B: No, no. People that saw him in the ring. [00:48:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but. Yeah, but when you see him, like, actually work in Japan, that is terrifying because he's still that big. But he moves like Paul White does, Like the Giant in Nitro does. Like, he's still tall and big, but he can, like, fly, basically. So, like, that's the crazy is people go on YouTube while we're still allowed to have it and check out Andre the Giant in Japan. That is wild. But, yeah, no, it's. So Diesel has to come out because this wrestling can't be about wrestling. And honestly, I don't want it to be because it's Shawn Michaels versus Jerry the King Waller. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we. We. The girls are freaking out right now. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Jerry Lawler in the doghouse this week or something? He doesn't even get, like, an intro. [00:49:30] Speaker A: No, they're just everyone. No, he got. Yeah, he got the jobber intro. Holy. I didn't realize they gave up the jobber intro. Holy. [00:49:39] Speaker B: They gave him the jobber intro. He didn't get to wear his crown at all. I think he was also getting punished this week. [00:49:47] Speaker A: Oh, I could look into that. I like to think so. I hope so. Punish Lawler is best Lawler, but yeah, he's. They're basically here to. To they're here so that they can set up Diesel and Sean. So like Lawler, it's like, go in there. [00:50:04] Speaker B: Sean gets a outrageous intro. Some very heterosexual entertainment up to and. [00:50:13] Speaker A: Including non consensual kissing of people in the crowds. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Like, yeah, yeah. Leathery tassels ripping for the audience. There was this kid in the audience, I don't know if you noticed this, but there was this kid in this like striped green shirt who just was, was slack jawed watching Shawn Michaels do his stripes tease to the sexy man song. His dad looks at him, this kid with this look of like, like, oh no, there's something being discovered here because it clearly is. And what's crazy is that even once the wrestling starts, it cuts back later and the kid is still starry eyed and slack jawed watching Shawn Michaels. [00:51:08] Speaker A: Oh my God, that poor kid. Like, I mean, I had some weird sexual awakenings, but Shawn Michaels now not even I got that bad. That was more. Look at that hair. Oh my God, he was so 90s, that guy. Like pretty boy, like proto metrosexual. That's what he wanted to be, I think. Which says a lot, but holy. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Are they playing it up and yeah. Extremely heterosexual entertainment for heterosexuals. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:51:47] Speaker B: And then Jerry Lawler just kind of gets rolled into the ring from the side. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Like they had him rolled up in a rug. He's just like, okay, I'm in the. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Ring now, get in there, go do your bits. [00:52:05] Speaker B: You have to give him this. Jerry Lawler very good at the in ring bits. [00:52:11] Speaker A: It's his whole thing. Yeah. [00:52:13] Speaker B: And he does, but you have to, you know, it's on the one hand. Yeah, it's his whole thing. But on the other hand, there are other people trying to do this in wrestling in this era and they are not succeeding. [00:52:25] Speaker A: Not as good. Yeah. And it sucks. It sucks that he has to be, you know, Jerry Lawler about it, but. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Like, okay, here's the thing. Jerry Lawler should just be a choreographer. Like, like he is a master of physical comedy and he's pretty good at wrestling. [00:52:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's why he had the career that he did, you know, like, you can't say he was bad at it. [00:52:53] Speaker B: But when they start giving him a microphone, holy shit, dude. The whole thing goes downhill. If Jerry Lawler had just choreographed fights. [00:53:04] Speaker A: And not been on commentary and not. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Been a commentator, it would have been a more beautiful world. [00:53:10] Speaker A: It really would. My life would have been better. Because it's bad enough that we have Vince, but thankfully we have Mr. Perfect as well, who again? Holy. Does he take the. The Bobby Heenan bit? This. I swear to God. This is an actual Bobby Heenan bit that I've heard Bobby Heenan do. So at some point in this match, Perfect says Sean's up by two points. He has the scorecard. Vince says, I see. Like, yes. That is literally. [00:53:40] Speaker B: No, no, he actually says that it's. No, it's the other way around. He says that Jerry's up. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Jerry's up by two points. All right, that makes more sense because he's the heel. No, that's literally a Bobby heated bit. And I was like, yeah. God damn it. All right, so no nitro, but we still got Bobby. Thank you, Mr. Perfect. I'm so proud of my. Of my wrestle boys that came from Minneapolis. I'm so proud of all of them. [00:54:02] Speaker B: Crack me up just like, oh, well, this is the first time you've ever mentioned points in all the wrestling I've ever watched. But sure, yeah, I totally believe you. [00:54:11] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. You're not making this up. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Making this up. You would never. [00:54:17] Speaker A: You would never. So there's very little going on here. Lawler does his whole hidden weapon in the hand thing, blah, blah, blah. It's a match that's here. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Anything didn't work. It was that. [00:54:30] Speaker A: It really didn't. It was like he was just doing all of. He was literally just doing all of his things. And it literally was like, it. It's clownish, but it's, like, great. You can see he's, like, playing to the crowd. I'm like, okay. He's doing. He's a circus clown. Like, they're just circus clouding, but Diesel's just here to talk. [00:54:51] Speaker B: I just feel like it was just like he must have done something to piss Vince off, maybe. It was like. And Vince was like, you know, in your contract, I could still make you wrestle, so you're wrestling this week and, you know, and whatever. And so then Jerry Lawler was like, okay, it. I haven't wrestled in a while. I'm gonna do all my bits. And so mostly it worked. And then a few of them less so because, again, he's just kind of going for the grab bag here. And it's not really like, there's new bits. It's just. But it was fun. It was fun in a lot of ways. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:55:35] Speaker B: It falls apart towards the end. [00:55:36] Speaker A: That was gonna be a dark joke, Eric. Jesus Christ. As if there's Shawn Michaels. [00:55:41] Speaker B: Oh, go ahead. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, you should stop me. I was gonna say there's one Thing that Jerry loves to do, it's to show people that didn't consent to it, his bits. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Believable. Shawn Michaels, he's just doing fine. [00:56:03] Speaker A: You're doing okay. He's hanging in there. Sometimes he's literally hanging out, like doing the thing where he lays across the top of the ropes just being a sexy boy like you do. And like, okay, this match goes on for like 12 minutes, which is gross. Like, it is gross that this went on for 12 minutes. Like, this should have been a squash match. This shouldn't have been a 12 minute. Why in no world should we be Giving Jerry Lawler 12 minutes of airtime in a ring like in 1996. [00:56:36] Speaker B: It has to be a punishment. [00:56:38] Speaker A: It has to be. Because I think at the end of. [00:56:41] Speaker B: It, if you tell Jerry Lawler at this time, 12 minutes in the ring, that's cruelty to a man who is reaching his age and physical fitness level that he was at around that time. [00:56:59] Speaker A: It's like, I'm gonna have to have two Coca Colas before this. Jesus Christ. But thankfully, yeah, it is punishment because the whole thing ends with Sean, like, kicking his head off is so good. [00:57:10] Speaker B: 20 years older than Sean Michaels, at least, and hasn't seen a gym in six months. [00:57:18] Speaker A: No, he's. The Wide Clowns don't go to the gym. Jerry. Jerry Law wears a clown. A clown without his head. After Shawn kicks it off. And then like, yeah, there we go. Woo. But yeah, then thankfully, after all that's done, we can get the whole point of this. Besides Jerry being punished. Jerry, apparently in. In that Diesel and Mr. Perfect, of all people, jump Shawn and beat the out of him. Oh, boy. And then big Kev does his big teabag where he lays the belt over Sean's corpse and straddles his face and puts his fist in the air. And like, that's a. That's a way to end a show. Woot. Yeah, yeah, like, like that. All of that. That's the thing. Like, we could say so much about this match, but all of it was just there to set up the next pay per view. And it was so gross to me because, like, there was good. There was good things in this show. That main event was not one of them. [00:58:15] Speaker B: It was gross. And yet even this main event, not the worst wrestling you've made me watch. [00:58:22] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Part of all this is again, I'm starting to see how RA could have won the Monday night war finally, which is terrifying. [00:58:34] Speaker A: I. I'm really, truly warping your brain that you're. You're starting to see how it could make sense. [00:58:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't like that it's starting to make sense. Makes sense because this was. This was overall a pretty solid episode of wrestling. It went by pretty quick for the most part. [00:58:55] Speaker A: It did. [00:58:56] Speaker B: I didn't feel like I had to just look at my phone a ton to get through it. [00:59:02] Speaker A: No, it. This was not a chore of a raw, which is saying something like, yeah, yeah, of course. [00:59:11] Speaker B: Because we are the femmes. I was a little disappointed that there was no femme wrestling this time. [00:59:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Speak of not even a gold dust. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Not even a wrestler. Yeah. We didn't even get gold dust wrestling. So, like, that was. Boy, that was kind of sad. You have shown. You're like, I also spoiled you. You, like, got like Girls Wrestling in 1996 at least once on a previous guest spot. And that was like, that don't happen very often. So you lucked out there. I don't know if you have a favorite match of the week, but my match of the week was Davey Boy Smith versus the table. [00:59:54] Speaker B: Yeah. The oil versus the table. I think my match of the week would be. Probably have to be when Vader attacks Yokozuna's leg for the, like, third time. [01:00:11] Speaker A: Third time in the ambulance. Yeah, that's a good one. And that leads us to who won this week. Which, you know, actually, you know. [01:00:19] Speaker B: Wait, wait. [01:00:20] Speaker A: Change your mind. [01:00:21] Speaker B: I have to give the last post the answer to which is I actually think low key. Triple H and the Dumpster. [01:00:29] Speaker A: I was gonna say, if we're gonna do a not shit post the answer, then fine, I guess I'll give it to the class war. And like, that was actually a really good match. And again, anything that has, like, I've been told my whole life in fandom to not take Duke the Dumpster Drossi seriously and to mock him and mock him mercilessly like this guy. But I don't know, every match that I've gotten to see him actually wrestle in, I think he's kind of good. And I'm. I'm sort of mad now that, like, we didn't get more from him. And then. Yeah. As far as who won this week, it's only post the answers because there was no nitro. So I'm gonna say the queer community, because we are alive in ultimate warriors dead. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm gonna say the ultimate loser this week is NCAA Harley Baker. Who lives it. I'm not gonna do it again. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Holy. That's amazing. Yeah, that's some stuff. That's the stuff that happened. [01:01:36] Speaker B: But yeah, no, obviously. Yeah, there's no winning or losing between Ron Nitro this week. But I also just want to say I think RAW won regardless. [01:01:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Like, theoretical nitrogen wasn't that good. [01:01:53] Speaker B: Well, I mean, so, like, they did not have a nitro this week, right? [01:01:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they was preempted by something. So they're just one I draw this week. [01:02:02] Speaker B: So that. Yeah, that means that RA definitely won. And that's not to say, okay, there could be a week where Raw could air and Nitro could not air and Raw could lose. [01:02:12] Speaker A: It's happened before. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Rock definitely just stumble into its own horseshit easily. [01:02:21] Speaker A: I mean, hell, Nitro lost to the Westminster Dog show one time. This is this. We've had an interesting show. [01:02:29] Speaker B: That's wild. But I think that you have to give it to RAW here in terms of if there was no nitro this. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Week, they really went hard. [01:02:41] Speaker B: And in 1996, and you're like, no nitro this week, this bullshit. Well, at least I got Raw. And then you watch this. You'd come out of it like, probably pretty satisfied. [01:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I would not have felt cheated at all. Like, I. I will say that, like, again, not. You're making me be not shit. Boasty. How dare you, Kennedy. No, it was a very good Raw. Like, it was a very good Raw, which is not something that there's been many of so far. [01:03:11] Speaker B: No weird chaos matches that you can't understand. [01:03:15] Speaker A: Yeah, there wasn't a lot of the. The that there was was straightforward. It was Cornette, you know, holding Yoko's leg to get broken. Like that's some good old fashioned. It wasn't. It wasn't sports entertainment like. And I can't stress enough not having Jerry Lawler in my ear the whole time made such a difference. [01:03:39] Speaker B: Like Mr. A difference. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Mr. Perfect was a great Bobby Heenan stand in and I wish we would have gotten more of him. Rest in peace, Kurt Henig. [01:03:49] Speaker B: I think the only thing by is that I didn't get to see Mankind wrestle. [01:03:55] Speaker A: You didn't. You got a tease about Mankind coming out last year. Yep, yep, yep. All right. Well, you'll have to be our first. The show's first four. Pete and I'll get you on for a McFoley. [01:04:07] Speaker B: A mankind. I just want to say that's one of my favorite wrestler names. [01:04:11] Speaker A: Right. [01:04:13] Speaker B: Just love that as a wrestler name. Mankind. [01:04:17] Speaker A: Oh, God. What what I for? Oh, my God. Mason the Mutilator. All right. Yeah. Mason the Mutilator is what they. Vince wanted to Call him. And he's like, what about, like, mankind? Yeah. Like, all right. I could see that man guy, like, because it's a double entendre. There's nothing Vince loves more than, like, a pun, you know, so it's like, you could say he's, you know, like. Like, you know, beating on man or like, mankind is broken, you know, like, it's, like. Makes it sound more epic. [01:04:48] Speaker B: So, like. Yeah, I liked. I like that name. And I also. I. I'm kind of into this, like, horror era of wrestling that's starting to emerge. Emerge here at this time. [01:05:02] Speaker A: They're leaning into it a little more. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Takes over in the late 90s for a while. [01:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah. When you get, like, the Ministry of Darkness and, like, yeah, when, like, Undertaker gets real freaky with it before he becomes the American badass biker. Hate him. Hate him. The Undertaker. Sorry, I can't. I can't do a whole show without saying that. Apparently, ever since I went on hate speech, it's just like. And they keeps doing that. Pisses me off. That's a whole other show I got. I gotta go back on that show and do undertaker hate from 2001 to present, because we, like, didn't even really get that far. [01:05:39] Speaker B: Wow. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Like, there's. There's more. [01:05:43] Speaker B: But Undertaker, in his best moments is great, super fun. [01:05:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:51] Speaker B: I loved him when I was a kid in wrestling. His whole aesthetic is great. [01:05:57] Speaker A: I like the more theatrical, like, you said, like, the horror. Spooky, like, also, like, why I loved Bray Wyatt so much was that, like, he really. I felt like Bray really was the. The. The. The first. Because, like, they've tried to be, like, They've tried to, like, do things to, like, make a playoff. The Undertaker before to. Because it's like, obviously, this guy's gonna get old and we need a new taker, you know? And, like, the only one that ever really worked for me was Bray Wyatt. Like, Bray really felt like he. He got it. He was also. Bray used the mandible claw. Bray. Bray Wyatt was like, what happened if Mankind and Undertaker fused and their dad was Mike Rotunda? And like, that. That's awesome because, like, I've. That's my favorite feud we talked about last week. Mankind and Undertaker is probably my favorite feud of my childhood. And. And he just was both. So. Yeah, no, I. I hate the Undertaker, but I love what he brought, you know, and the. [01:07:00] Speaker B: The fact that Undertaker seems so unbeatable in a certain way. Like, they. They made him beatable in a way, but he had that special quality of, you know, in certain venues, he like, basically never. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah, like Drake at WrestleMania. [01:07:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:07:18] Speaker A: So, like, if the time is. Timing is right, he literally has, like, special powers that you cannot beat him because it's WrestleMania. [01:07:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And I. I think that's kind of interesting because worked well with this, like, character of, like, you know, he's the undertaker. He's this character from the world of death. And he'll, you know, if anyone gets too cocky in the wrestling world, then this guy shows up and puts you in a casket. Like. Yeah, that's awesome. Why. Why did he have to ruin that. [01:07:54] Speaker A: You know, walking memento mori. Yeah. Like, you too will get tombstone pile driver. Like it. Oh, hell yeah. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Yes. All I can say to really conclude all of that is, you know, the tragedy. The tragedy of being a professional wrestler is that eventually you just get too old to really keep up with everyone else, that kind of lifestyle. And then it's like, what do you do as you start to age out, become such a thing, and there's just no way around it because it's such. It's so brutal on the body. Like, there's. It's just not a. You know, there's not something you can. [01:08:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not something you can do forever, especially if you're doing it like he was doing it. And like they did back. Back in the olden times, you know, like, they just beat the. Out of themselves. But, yeah, no, yeah, solid point. But thank you for being the second three. Pete Guest, Kennedy. Hell yeah. We love the way it worked. [01:09:03] Speaker B: I glad it worked out, I guess. [01:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, it worked out because I. I thought it would be nice to have you on because of the new thing, promote the thing, tell the people where to find you and hear you and the things you do. Tell them, Tell them, tell them. [01:09:20] Speaker B: So I have a new podcast, podcast, and it's called the Most Important Election of Our Lives. And it's a podcast about fiction and politics and voting, voting, voting often and voting early. We ask our friends to tell us about things that they like, and then we tie them to political topics in ways that you'd never expect ever. [01:09:52] Speaker A: As. As the person who edits the show, I can attest, yes, I've been surprised on multiple occasions going, oh, my God. All right, I never would have thought about that. But needless to say, Kennedy and the people at the Most important election of Our lives are there to think about. [01:10:09] Speaker B: It for you thoughts believe, where you find podcasts, etc. [01:10:17] Speaker A: Etc. Etc. Well, thank you very much, Excedrin. Yes. I'm gonna need one after. After Ultimate Warrior talk. Anything else or find you on the blue skies? There's the worst week yet. You do so many things. [01:10:39] Speaker B: They're good. It's good people. We're good people. Bye. [01:10:44] Speaker A: Oh my God. That's funny. Holy. Yeah, I've run out too many things. It's good. Bye. Well, thank you. [01:10:54] Speaker B: I just want to say I. I've. I've peeked at a little bit of that new Netflix sponsored Raw. [01:11:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I have not. [01:11:06] Speaker B: It's bad. Like this error that we're talking about right now, they're completely hung up on it and they can't move past it. [01:11:15] Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense because like, everyone who's in charge is attitude era kids. And like, that sucks. All right. Eventually I'll have to watch it. I don't want to, but I will. I watched the Royal Rumble and I. [01:11:29] Speaker B: Was like, okay, it was all right. And yeah, it's like I say they're, they're just. They're hung up on that. That, you know, previous era of, of wrestling. And so it's like they're just bringing out the Rock and the Undertaker makes an appearance. But they all look like now. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Like none of them have held up. You know who. But that's not fair though. You know who has held up and made a point? A promo about it on Wednesday. That was awesome. Gold Dust. Dustin Rhodes is going to be wrestling on, on Wednesday and he had a promo last Wednesday where he's like, I am literally the last of my kind. When I die, the mold breaks. And I was like, yeah, yeah, Dustin. Like, yeah. Cause he is. He's. He's the last one. Like I could. Him and Jeff Jarrett are like the last two that I could think of who are like really working regular pretty regularly and like not themselves up doing it. It's pretty great. Like all these other can't wrestle anymore or they're dead. That's how I feel about that. [01:12:44] Speaker B: It's. It's something with this whole situation. And I'm not saying all the old dogs don't have it entirely. Like some of them aren't so old or have, you know, been lucky or really taking care of themselves or some combination, you know. But it just. It just feels like they have new guys that they're gonna like, make cool. Like, and they have a lot. [01:13:17] Speaker A: They have a lot of guys that they could do that with, but they just. These other guys keep showing up and like, like inserting themselves and it's like, I'm sorry. I don't care about the Rock anymore. Like, I just. I just don't. Like, I just don't care. So, like, whatever. And. And I'm like, I'm sitting here, like, I can't. I can't be too sad about that because aw does that all the time. But when they do it, it's guys that can still go, like Dustin, Jeff Jarrett and, like, Edge, like Copeland. And like, all these guys are like, yeah, they're bringing back these older dudes that we love, but they could still work. And. And they don't have to work for Vince anymore. And it brings, like, this. This freedom to their work that you didn't get to see in WWE after a while. And it's really refreshing. Like, I just. I. That's what I wish for everyone. I wish for everyone to get out from under Vince in his hole in Triple Paul's whole regime and just get to, like, go work some indies. Go have. Go remember what it's like to, like, actually be a wrestler, you know, and, like, not just do the performance center. Like, from my understanding, again, I'm not a wrestler. I'm just a fan. But from my understanding, like, they. They. The. The Fed nowadays especially, has the way they do things and that's it. And, like, they beat the rest of it audio, basically, and it's just not fun anymore. So you get, like, these old timers who spent 30 years with the company then showing up in AW going, oh, wow, this is. This is fun again. Oh, I remember when this used to be fun. Like, it's just so sad. It's all the. Let's let these lost puppies go run upstate with Tony Khan, you know? Yeah. [01:15:01] Speaker B: But on that, let him confess to murder on Facebook. [01:15:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, Marty Jannetti, and they'll find their own way. Oh, God. Always with the Janetti. You always come back with it. I love that I could give you more Marty Jannetti in your life, but, you know, it's small. [01:15:19] Speaker B: Did you love that song? [01:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I did. With the Marty. Holy. I was like, he sent me a Wiz Khalifa song. I'm like, what the is Marty Jannetti, referee? So, like, Jesus Christ. Okay. Of all the things. [01:15:38] Speaker B: All right, well, I was getting dealt with. Never pop hit him with the drop kick. Marty Jannetti is one of the hardest. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Lines in all of rap. Look, Janetti had a hell of a drop kick. All right? He like, that's not. That's a. Now that's a way to end our show. Holy. It don't get better than that. Thank you for hanging out. Candy. Thank you folks for listening. You can still find us on Blue sky at Mnffpod, bsky, Social, Instagram and if you want to join the [email protected] we do the watch parties. We do other things on occasion. If you go there for $5 it will help me live otherwise. We will see you next week for more Raw and nitro live. Yeah help help a girl live now more than ever, please. We will see you next time for more Raw and think Nitro on Monday night. Fake Fights K Ball Ghost Coast Studios. [01:16:42] Speaker B: Thanks for listening.