Trebuchet? Trebu-shush

[00:00:07] Speaker A: In the beginning, the earth was a dark, formless void. But then God spoke and said, let there be wrestling. And with that, there was Monday, and wrestling happened on Mondays. And God looked upon her works and said, holy shit, that's a lot of racism in video packages. On the second day, God got depressed and lo did she post about it on the DVD VR forums. And with that, there was Tuesday. On the third day, God said, let there be Wednesday. And lo did the people reply unto her. We know what that means. [00:00:57] Speaker B: And welcome back to Wednesday night Fake Fights, where we talk all things aew. We are here this week with a perfectly non special Dynamite. It doesn't have a name, it doesn't have a weird time slot. It's just a dynamite. Feel like it's been forever since we've had one of these. And we are here watching this regular dynamite that is being broadcast from Tulsa, Oklahoma. And as always, it's me, your boy, Jeff the Toki Mongoose. I'm here with two of my favorite people in the world, my wonderful co host. Why don't y' all introduce yourselves? I threw an Oklahoma accent there. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Is that what that little. I don't know. [00:01:35] Speaker B: It felt natural. It wasn't intentional. [00:01:38] Speaker A: Oklahoma. I don't know how they down there. It's Erica Warren. Talk like J. I can't do it. I can't do. [00:01:47] Speaker B: They broke her in half. They broke her. [00:01:49] Speaker A: By God, Erica. By God. It can't be worse than what's his name's Oklahoma. So. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. At Ferraro. All right. Speaking of, speaking of 90s wrestling, who else is here with us? What? [00:02:12] Speaker C: No, no, not, not. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Not. [00:02:14] Speaker C: Tro. Trebuchet. No. Well, trabajo on the trebuchet. Okay. All right. Hi. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:02:22] Speaker C: I'm gonna be in and out. I'm. I don't know if any have been paying attention to news, but it's busy here. Needless to say, there's a lot of people trying to make sure that no one murders my neighbors. And those people need burritos. So the clones are just knocking them out. Trebuchet, you know, like that. We gotta get these burritos to people somehow. So. Yeah, it's Ella Taylor. Hi, it's a me. Hello. I love you all. Goofs grabs 90s wrestling. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Oh, son of a. And now I'm hungry too. Which completely is their own. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I was like, now burrito does sound. [00:03:02] Speaker B: Let's do one of those over here. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Oh, I could do that, right? [00:03:05] Speaker A: Yeah. How far is that trebuchet? [00:03:06] Speaker C: I need 45 degrees due west. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Got it. [00:03:11] Speaker C: All right. [00:03:11] Speaker B: It's got across a great lake to get between us. [00:03:15] Speaker C: Oh, I believe in it. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Is it. Is Minnesota right on the Great Lake or is that Wisconsin? [00:03:21] Speaker C: Well, we got. We got Superior and then you got the. The great state of Wisconsin in between us and the lake of Michigan. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Okay, so you're gonna want to go at least like a six. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Oh, no, I gotta go over a state and a Great Lake. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Another state and a great lake. Yeah. Every. Every week we get into geography. [00:03:39] Speaker C: It's a big trap. It's a real big trevisure. [00:03:42] Speaker B: We talk about our recurring bits, but really like the underlying core of this show has been us not understanding geography. [00:03:50] Speaker C: Yeah, that's fine. [00:03:51] Speaker A: I mean, American school system products here, folks. [00:03:58] Speaker C: It's amazing that I know what a trebuchet is, let alone have been one, you know? [00:04:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it's terrible. Classic trebuchet. Yeah. We're from watching this dynamite that is being broadcast from Tulsa, Oklahoma. And we got the return of the one, the only, good old Junior Jim Ross. And he is James. He's looking. He's looking sprightly. He is looking ready to hop in that ring himself. [00:04:23] Speaker C: James. How does he know Barbecue Ross? [00:04:26] Speaker B: I think I want to say mid-70s, but I'm not sure. He just had. [00:04:31] Speaker C: I'm just going to go with, yeah. [00:04:33] Speaker B: He just got over cancer, so, I mean, that always makes you look older like that shit takes it out of you. Yeah, he looks like he's. [00:04:39] Speaker C: Answer. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna be making fun of him a lot tonight. That's because I am a good person. [00:04:45] Speaker A: 74. 74 years old. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Oh, I was. Yeah, that's spot on there. He's like my parents age, but looks a lot worse. Oh, that's. [00:04:53] Speaker C: I mean, come on. [00:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. [00:04:55] Speaker C: He could still be president. [00:04:57] Speaker A: He could. He'd be younger. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah. He's got a better chance than a lot of people do. Yeah. Yeah, they do the full. Justin Roberts calls him down. They do the full entrance with the boomer Sooner music and all that fun stuff. It's nostalgic. I mean, it was. We'll probably be talking about Junior through this show, but I mean, it was in Oklahoma. This is as he kind of have him. [00:05:17] Speaker A: This is it. I'm just gonna say this up front. Nothing really for. Against Jim Ross, but you know what would have been a cooler person to have on the show in Oklahoma would have been Nyla Rose. I'm just saying. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Yeah. It would have been so funny if I had Ferrari came out dressed as Oklahoma Inst this Tony and his heel arc. [00:05:42] Speaker C: We're just getting some real. [00:05:44] Speaker A: I would still rather have Nyla Rose as. [00:05:47] Speaker B: Rather have. [00:05:48] Speaker A: Can we please. Can we please give a middle finger to Oklahoma and they're stupid. [00:05:53] Speaker B: Okay. No, because she's not from there. [00:05:56] Speaker A: That's the. Yeah, no, no, it's not that she's from there. It's that, like, the last time they got fined for having a trans woman on their show. [00:06:05] Speaker B: I remember that now. I agree. Okay. My girl, as a concept, if you're fans of us listening to. If you're listening to this from there, we love you. But everything else about where. [00:06:15] Speaker A: Unless you're a transphobia, which you should. [00:06:17] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I'm sure you're fine. [00:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah, just give us money and it's all good. [00:06:21] Speaker C: Yeah, you shouldn't be listening to the show. Yeah, yeah, no, you should send us money and then, you know, actionable dual wall. [00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's whatever you guys have. [00:06:32] Speaker C: It's an actionable suggestion. [00:06:35] Speaker B: Suggestionable. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Do the honor if you want to. [00:06:40] Speaker C: If you want to. [00:06:43] Speaker B: We're trying to get all this out before. [00:06:45] Speaker C: Yeah, we tried. We tried to get all. All of the. The anger out, but just ring bells over and over. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Piper, go. Yeah. [00:06:53] Speaker C: So it is just gonna be ding. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Ding, ding, ding, ding. [00:06:56] Speaker A: I don't think driving to a wall is that bad. [00:06:59] Speaker C: No, no, no. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it's gonna be worse. I. I've done it. [00:07:04] Speaker A: I've done it. [00:07:05] Speaker B: We all driven into walls. [00:07:06] Speaker A: We've all driven into walls. Just not on purpose like some people should do right now. From Oklahoma. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Hit. Hit part of my garage once. I guess that counts. That was in a hurry. I took off some siding. [00:07:19] Speaker C: Jake Hager. Jake Hager can have a nice present. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he's got that hat. Yeah, okay. But yeah. Anyway, we'd start off with a video. It was supposed to be Jet Speed and Jack Perry versus the Demand. They got back to Renee over by Trainer's room, and she's saying that Jet Speed is injured after being attacked backstage and will not be able. They're not cleared for tonight. They can't compete. And the Demand and Don Callis come out and join her. And Renee says maybe this has something that has something to do with the bounty you guys put out on them, which I don't remember that. Did that happen? [00:07:57] Speaker C: I guess. [00:07:58] Speaker A: I think it was on collision. [00:08:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I was busy. [00:08:02] Speaker B: I'm usually a lot more baked on a Saturday, though, so it probably. It might have just. [00:08:07] Speaker A: No, because my. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Yeah, my stream kept up when I was watching. Okay. That makes sense. Then I was like, where'd this bounty come from? [00:08:13] Speaker A: Because wasn't I. I think Brian Keith was trying to get the bounty on one of them. [00:08:18] Speaker B: He is a bounty hunter. [00:08:19] Speaker A: He is a bounty hunter. [00:08:20] Speaker B: I did like to. Ricochet says it's not a. There. Go. [00:08:23] Speaker A: Oh, no, go ahead. You're. You're gonna say what I was gonna say. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Ricochet says that it's not a bounty. They just said if someone attacks and hurts jet speed, they would give them money. And Don says it's a gentleman's wager, like on a golf course. And Don Callis backs him up in the. [00:08:40] Speaker A: It's not. Action. Not again. Not actionable. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Just like if you happen to beat the. Out of them. Yeah. Don Cal says that somebody did get rich off of it. And out comes Jake Doyle, who is known as Jake Something on the ntna. He kind of has been known that. He was probably come into aew. This is. It's really cool. He's an amazing wrestler. He's been one of my favorites for a long, long time. It's a perfect fit. But they're calling him Jake Doyle, which is his birth. His actual shoot name, instead of Jake Something, which. Okay with. [00:09:16] Speaker C: He said he was in tna. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. He just finished up in tna. Yeah. [00:09:20] Speaker C: I. I wonder if they didn't find a. Find a way to. [00:09:23] Speaker B: He's been Jake Something on the indies for, like, 10, 15 years. That's. [00:09:28] Speaker C: That's what I thought. But you never know. [00:09:31] Speaker B: He may have, I think, maybe away. [00:09:33] Speaker C: You know, and not realize it. [00:09:35] Speaker B: I think maybe it's just like he's taking this next step. He's going on a national team, and something's kind of like a get. I like Jake Something as a name, but it is a little gimmicky. And maybe he wants to just be like a bit more of a. I don't want to say serious, but, yeah, if he's tagging with J. Or Mark Davis Doyle. And Davis is a sick tag name. [00:09:55] Speaker C: Yeah. And I look as a Tran. As a trans woman and someone who has, you know, presence on the Internet. I would know nothing about wanting to suddenly change your name and start fresh. You know, that. That. [00:10:10] Speaker B: That. [00:10:10] Speaker C: That makes no sense. How dare he him? [00:10:13] Speaker B: I will give Grat From Midland, Michigan, 30 minutes down the road from where I live. Oh, he's like the only guy from the. My general area who hasn't made it in some capacity. So I always have some. [00:10:28] Speaker C: Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Rob Van Dam. [00:10:32] Speaker B: No, he's from Battle Creek. He's. Yeah, but I'm talking mid Michigan. Jake is from like my. Like, literally, like where we used to go to the mall. From my. [00:10:42] Speaker C: Oh, see, I'm. I'm from Wisconsin. [00:10:45] Speaker B: Don't generalize us. [00:10:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm from Wisconsin. It's like if you're. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Michigan contains multitudes. [00:10:51] Speaker A: You're. [00:10:51] Speaker C: You're in the mitten or you're a yooper. And. [00:10:53] Speaker B: And that's fair. The yoopers, they call us trolls because we live under the bridge. [00:11:00] Speaker A: Oh, I like that. [00:11:04] Speaker B: And we call them. [00:11:07] Speaker C: Neighbors. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah, they can't. There's one Walmart in your entire peninsula. You have to drive three hours to get. [00:11:13] Speaker A: To get that part of Michigan from December to February. [00:11:20] Speaker B: Your entire. Yeah, no, it's cool. I love the up, actually. I go up there all the time. [00:11:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say I get. [00:11:26] Speaker B: Smoked fish up there. [00:11:27] Speaker C: I'm talking because I used to visit it when I was a kid. [00:11:30] Speaker B: No, it's a great place. [00:11:31] Speaker C: I go up all the time. [00:11:35] Speaker B: You. [00:11:35] Speaker C: You per. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Okay, that's a. That's a good. That's our Midwest little diversion. [00:11:40] Speaker C: We. We poke because we care. It's why. It's like, why. [00:11:43] Speaker B: No, I'm all about. Please. I love them. Exactly. I'm from. It's like picking on your siblings. I'm from Michigan. I can like, they call us. [00:11:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I'm from Wisconsin. I can't talk for sure. I can't say. [00:11:55] Speaker B: You guys are like our. You're like our weird cousin, though. [00:11:59] Speaker C: We're the worst. [00:12:00] Speaker B: We're the worst. Okay. Wrestling. [00:12:05] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:05] Speaker A: Wrestling. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Yes. We are onto our first match, which is John Moxley versus Shelton Benjamin and a continental title eliminator. They do clarify that if it goes to the time limit draw, it does count towards the challenger getting the title shot. Apparently there's been some contention back and forth, but to me that's how it always should be. That's how the proving ground matches and Ring of Honor are. [00:12:28] Speaker A: That's how they did it last week too. So I. Yeah, they even announced it last week, so I don't know who. [00:12:34] Speaker C: Pay attention. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Watch. Watch the shows, folks. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Right? [00:12:39] Speaker C: Yeah, they're good. The wrestling's real fun to watch. [00:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's really good. [00:12:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I like. They do another cool little Renee segment where she kind of like during Shelton's Enderman or Shelton's Enderment is Shelton's entrance. [00:12:54] Speaker C: That was Shelton's entrance here. [00:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's where we ended. During Shelton Benjamin's entrance. Renee is up on the stage and they do. She does like a little inter seed where she's talking about the match and all that. I, I really like those. I think they're good touches. [00:13:17] Speaker A: The entire presentation for the continental title now just rules. And I love it. Like it's, it's awesome like this. The eliminators. Renee having like a tale of the tape interview on the match. Like it rules. [00:13:34] Speaker B: I also love no people on the outside. Like outside of, you know, like they do MVPs on commentary for this. But like just having to be a straight up match and that actually being like part of it at least set shit apart a little. Yep, I did. I did have a couple JR lines from this one. Moxley loves to brawl, loves to fight. And Shelton is an amazing stud. I think that's as good a junior voice as I can do. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Shelton. Benjamin. Shelton Benjamin. I shined him to his first contract. [00:14:09] Speaker B: You know my favorite impression now, it's amazing. It sounds like he's a downer. [00:14:18] Speaker C: I feel like I'm. [00:14:19] Speaker B: How. [00:14:19] Speaker C: Why am I offended? I feel like. [00:14:24] Speaker A: I tried to talk in Oklahoma. It's like a slightly Boston accent. [00:14:33] Speaker C: It's like you even gave someone from Boston just a bunch of quaaludes. [00:14:40] Speaker A: Oklahoma. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Oh man. Let's start this off. Shelton just is immediately tossing mocks all over. He's German. Suplex is non stop. They do a lot of brawl. Yeah. [00:14:56] Speaker A: You just toss it Moxley, effortlessly. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I saw somebody on either Twitter or Blue sky describe this match and they're like this was an ugly match but. But in a ugly in a good way. Like it felt like a real fight and like how these two characters would go up against each other. Like, lot of very big bombs thrown, lot of hard hitting and huge like strikes. [00:15:21] Speaker C: What's that? That, that styles make the match sort of thing too because you got Mox with his death jitsu. Half brawling, half mma. You got Sheldon Benjamin who's like the gold standard. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Yeah. The greatest athlete that ever lived. [00:15:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Like one of the greatest after wrestlers ever. So like, you know, cool. Who also can throw some bombs and too, like. Yeah, yeah. [00:15:50] Speaker B: Like it fantastic. It almost looked like a little messier than like your normal Shelton Benjamin mad. Like it normally really like a, like clean with it. And I'm not even saying that as a bad thing. Like it felt like it meshed with what Moxley does to give an authenticity kind of to everything. [00:16:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Like there, there was one spot I noted like Mox was trying to Irish whip Shelton on the floor and like it really looked like there was a moment where Shelton was just like, why am I running? And he stops and he's closer to the barricade now than he was. So he just stops and he grabs Mox and tossed him into the barricade instead. It's like, wait, I don't need to do this. [00:16:31] Speaker B: The age old question pro wrestling, why am I running? [00:16:34] Speaker A: Why should I do this? I don't, I, I team with Kurt Angle. I don't need to run the ropes. [00:16:41] Speaker B: And Charlie H. That's. There were some big spots too. There's one where they were do. They did their big brawl to the outside. They go up and down the crowd. Like they go up into the steps and like that. And Sheldon gets Moxley over the barricade and he does a running like jump off the barricade into a clothesline. That was really slick. Shelton, he gets a bunch of more. A lot of German suplexes in this. He's killing them on the floor with them. When they came back from commercial, Shelton does his like huge run up the rope suplex to Moxley off the top. I was like, that was gorgeous. I know, I've said it. We say it like every time. But this man is 50 years old. It does not make sense. [00:17:19] Speaker A: I am continually amazed every time I see like I, I'm as, I'm as amazed with him now as like the first time I saw him wrestle. [00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm 39 and I get winded going upstairs. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like I remember watching Shelton the first time and being like, wait, guys could wrestle exciting styles. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Yeah. What was the first. I think it was the first money in the batch, money in the bank match back in WrestleMania that he was on where he did the, the run up the ladder spot. [00:17:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker B: It was still one of the, to this day is one of the craziest things I've ever seen in wrestling. [00:17:53] Speaker C: Also, he's responsible for the greatest super kick of all. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:18:00] Speaker C: Yeah. When he jumped, when he springboarded off of. Off the ropes and Sean caught him with the sweet chin. [00:18:08] Speaker B: Jeez. [00:18:09] Speaker C: And just killed him like. And he just like crumpled in midair. I was like, what the. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah. God. [00:18:17] Speaker C: Shelton Benjamin kids like the Fed forever. But like go watch some old Shelton Benjamin matches like from early on. It's worth it. It's so worth it. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Like Heyman, six, eight days of Smackdown and where he was with team Angle and stuff and even his stuff in Ring of Honor. [00:18:38] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. Yep. It's that Monday. It's that Monday show coming. Coming through again. [00:18:46] Speaker B: That's a bit later than we ever got on that show. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Yeah, he doesn't. [00:18:49] Speaker C: No, we did not ever get that. [00:18:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that's like eight years down the line from where we ended. [00:18:57] Speaker C: I would apologize for not do it, for not finishing it, but I'm not sorry. Godamn it. It was, it was a fool's errand. [00:19:04] Speaker B: I still want we talked about before. I still wouldn't mind doing like some pay per views. Right. Or something and even do it going into like Ruthless doing some like 2005 six like that I think would be possible. That's for conversation for another day. Yes. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Right. [00:19:16] Speaker C: Entirely different show. [00:19:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Max does his baby face suicida that like I said now that people like him. He does suicide dives. That's what I call him. [00:19:26] Speaker A: That's a good, that's a good thing for it baby face to see that. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's how you know what his alignment is though. He box was working a little more Heelish this match than he has been recently. Like he was doing some manipulation and stuff. Yeah, I think they. He knew like. Yeah, yeah. I think he knew people were gonna pop for Shelton and like Shelton's eye offense so he, he leaned into it. I think that's working with this character right now where he can do both. [00:19:53] Speaker A: The tweener, if you will. [00:19:56] Speaker B: That's a better junior impression there. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Oh, thanks. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Actually I think that's somebody else. [00:20:03] Speaker C: If you will. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. [00:20:08] Speaker C: That the American dream, baby. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Oh, that's a good one. We'll have to have a meeting, figure out what impressions everyone can do and make sure we got them lined up when we needed. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Well, Jersey Scott, we got nailed so. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah, we need to bring Jimmy back. It's been too. Well, he was a fixture in the early days. He still don't say his name again. [00:20:31] Speaker C: You'll appear. [00:20:32] Speaker B: Yeah. If you say it. Yeah. He says three times in the mirror, shows up behind you. Get up, Hulk. We gotta get to the territories, huh? I always try and do them, but it just turns into Mickey Mouse. [00:20:47] Speaker C: No. Yeah, no, I just do Mickey Mouse. Like that's hard. Yeah. [00:20:52] Speaker B: Miss you so much, Terry. Think about you every day, baby. It's giving me the pity City Daddy. This is what we. This is Jimmy Hart saying his prayers to Hulk Hogan every night. [00:21:13] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:21:14] Speaker B: Just want you to take. Why won't you take me too so I can be with you Daddy? Oh my God. How big is the gate in heaven, Daddy? I got a title belt up there too. No, brother, it's Only for me and God. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Yeah. You don't get it. [00:21:36] Speaker B: A golden megaphone jacket. [00:21:38] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Okay, so Moxley gets stolen into the corner and he goes, he's doing the big ten punch spot in the corner. He's got him a. It's that Moxley converts it into a power bomb. Oh, my God. [00:21:58] Speaker A: This match was pretty, this match was something. [00:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, let's just, we'll roll up to the end here because otherwise this will be the entire show. Gets out of like triangle choke on Moxley. Yeah. And like time is running right down. This was down to the last like 30 seconds. [00:22:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:14] Speaker C: Yeah. It got close. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Shelton gets him in the choke. Moxley pushes up on it, Gets Shelton's shoulders down, gets the three count. They say in commentary it was the last five seconds of the match. [00:22:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:27] Speaker B: Sheldon was that close to getting his title, which I really liked this match. I really wish Shelton, they had gone to the time of. And Shelton could get, you know, Shelton doesn't have to win the belt, but give him an actual like title shot and collision or something. Like even good enough to run back. [00:22:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say it was such a good match that I feel like they should have run it back. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah. You want Moxley getting some wins now that he's, you know, baby face suicida, like give people something. [00:23:00] Speaker C: So just to clarify, Jeff, you do the Jimmy Hart impression. You're like, that's, that's yours. You, you win. I, I simply can't. [00:23:15] Speaker B: It does hurt my throat a little bit after a while. Oh God, it's so high. Yeah, yeah, they do. At least. They do. Max goes for the handshake and Shelton begrudge, not begrudgingly. He accepts the handshake. Though he does still look a little bummed that he, that he lost, which. Understandable. Yeah. Hell of a match though. I thought that was sick. [00:23:35] Speaker A: It was great. And the way they're doing this with Mox makes me wonder who's actually going to get a title shot down the line. Yeah, it's got apple this. If this is how they're going to do it, then it's me, Wheeler, morbidly curious. [00:23:52] Speaker B: I'm turning on John Moxley. [00:23:54] Speaker C: I got this bag. [00:23:56] Speaker A: You know what? I, I, you know what? I would not be surprised. [00:24:01] Speaker C: If Wheeler's the one to be like, guys, I'm, I'm, I'm sick and tired of us flip flopping on whether or not to murder him with a bag. I'm just going to murder him with a. And he just goes rogue. Yeah. Yeah. [00:24:12] Speaker B: You're going to give him a present with a bag? Come on, Ella. [00:24:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he gave him a present with a bag. [00:24:17] Speaker B: You're gonna put a present in a bag. Professional. [00:24:19] Speaker C: We're talking about professional. I know the violence is implied to be fake fed. It's thank you. But yes, he's gonna give him a nice present with a nice present. [00:24:27] Speaker B: And speaking of people that kind of suck, Darby is backstage looking around for Pack. [00:24:33] Speaker C: This was kind of interesting. Weird segment. [00:24:39] Speaker B: Yeah. This is just. This is just the actual segment part still a little later on. This is just. They just did a quick little intercede of him, like, oh, okay. Just looking around, looking for you. Yeah, they set up. [00:24:49] Speaker A: Where's Park? Where's pa? Who gives a. [00:24:53] Speaker B: Can we come to a consensus? Is it Packer, Pac? It's Pac. [00:24:57] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure it's Pac. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Okay, that makes sense. They do do that. [00:25:06] Speaker C: Heck, I'm not fingerboarding. [00:25:10] Speaker B: I did do a nice little video package too, about Tanahashi's retirement that our own Erica Warren was at. [00:25:18] Speaker C: And patrons. By the time this comes out, it should be out. It's mostly edited. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take it. [00:25:27] Speaker B: You edited that? Jesus Christ. [00:25:29] Speaker C: Well, I had to make it sound cohesive. [00:25:33] Speaker B: Okay. We should tell people what it was. It was it. We did it. Well, I didn't, but did a watch along for Wrestle Kingdom, including me and Erica Piper. Yeah. All our wayward hosts. [00:25:43] Speaker C: And we all missed. Yes. And we also were joined, I think at some point there by. By Vin. Friend of the show. Vinforte joined us for a while there, but we stayed up way too late. It was like, going on. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Yeah. I wasn't doing that. I had to work the next day. [00:26:03] Speaker C: I didn't have to work with. Me and Piper both. Didn't have to work the next day. Yeah. Let's do things that young people do. And Piper was like, yeah, I can do that. I'm still young. And I was like, this is gonna. [00:26:17] Speaker B: I can pretend. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:19] Speaker B: And. [00:26:19] Speaker C: And so I stayed up till four in the morning, watched the rest of Kingdom. It was amazing. And the next 48 hours of my life were hell. So it was, you know, it was fine. It's worth it. Got to watch. Got to watch an ascension into heaven. [00:26:35] Speaker B: It was good. [00:26:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Watch for Erica Warren in the crowd. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Yeah. We. [00:26:42] Speaker A: You don't. [00:26:43] Speaker B: You don't see me go frame by frame. Pausing, Looking for Erica. [00:26:47] Speaker C: We look the way the. [00:26:48] Speaker A: There's an Erica, like grassy knoll. While Tanahashi's carriage Goes by and now he's waving back into the left. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Back to the web. Push around as young boy cart for 15 minutes at the end. [00:27:04] Speaker A: I, I, I thought it was the young lions doing it but they, they, they had some like the actual veterans. [00:27:10] Speaker B: Oh, was the actual wrestler. Yeah, yeah. I was kind of out by that point. That's cool. [00:27:14] Speaker A: It was a good show stuff. Fantastic. Go watch it. It made me cry. [00:27:19] Speaker B: Same. Yeah. Did you talk about Okada? How Okada is the one that one and you know retired Tanahashi so it's got an AEW contingent here. [00:27:29] Speaker A: I thought it was interesting they even mentioned it because they didn't mention Wrestle Dynasty last year from what I remember. [00:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's odd. [00:27:38] Speaker A: This was like an actual important show. [00:27:41] Speaker B: Yeah, no, exactly. I mean this was news. They mentioned, they mentioned Tanahashi retiring on Raw. Like they didn't do a video package but I think Corey Graves or somebody shouted about like this is this transcends companies. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Cory Graves is a guy who should receive a present too so. [00:27:58] Speaker C: Oh, want to give him a kiss? So nice. Also we should, we should say it because not everyone's going to hear the Patreon but in honor of Hiroshi Tanahashi retiring, we also will be retiring. We can't get one more out. We are retiring the bit. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Yellow brick Ro. [00:28:28] Speaker A: He's never gonna. Well no, because like he's gonna show up for like forbidden door to be like ah, it's me. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I can't promise that I'm not gonna get high and forget that somebody's gonna say his name and I'm gonna do it. But I'll try my best. [00:28:41] Speaker A: If he does it, I'm gonna do it. I don't give a. [00:28:44] Speaker B: It's part of him. It's kind of like it's automatic like muscle reflex at this point for me. [00:28:49] Speaker A: You couldn't kill George C. Scott. You can't kill Ta Nehisi. [00:28:54] Speaker B: You killed Minotaur sex. [00:28:55] Speaker C: So where are we in the wrestling show? [00:28:59] Speaker B: Postmortem. Yeah, we got our trios match where it is the demand versus Jack Perry and his mystery partners. Did a man comes out first the way in their one piece admirals coat. Jack Perry comes out. He's looking all distressed. He's all by himself. He's a little guy. He ain't got nobody with him. Is this song playing? Is this Corruption by Van Halen? No, it's the young Bucks theme with their super kick party back. It is old school Bucks team. I was I, I popped. I mean I feel like this Is all kind of. Oh, we did kind of skip over too. They did a little video package about MJF and Kenny challenging mjf. And Kenny's gonna be back on the show next week. I thought it was relevant because I feel like they're doing this. I feel like they're really kind of doing, like, the final hurrah of the elite. Like, Kenny's her and slowing down. And I did want to say, I remember two weeks ago where they're like, the Bucks are gonna be out for the rest of the year. It's been there. That was December 25th or something. And they came back on January 6th. [00:30:13] Speaker C: I, I, I, what workers? Me thinks it might have been a bit. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it was definitely a bit. But these guys are incredible workers, and I love them. [00:30:23] Speaker B: It's great stuff. [00:30:25] Speaker C: And I, I think I said before, but I, I've certainly said it on Blue Sky. I think Kenny gets the belt off of Max. [00:30:34] Speaker B: I don't mind him having, like, one more short run with it. [00:30:37] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. Because if he's winding down, give him the belt one more time. You know, it's only right. Get it the off of Max because everyone hates it. [00:30:48] Speaker B: You can even drop it next pay per view, and I'd be fine with it. [00:30:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, I'm a Max fan, and even I don't want him to have a super long run. Like, this is not like. Yeah. He is a transitional champion. Yeah. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Kenny wins the belt from mjf, holds it till Forbidden Door, and then Jake Lee wins it from Kenny. [00:31:08] Speaker C: Yeah, there you go. [00:31:09] Speaker B: It's right in the. Yeah. [00:31:10] Speaker A: God damn you the hell. [00:31:11] Speaker C: And then. And then Orange Cassidy, having learned some Japanese from living with miniature Kawa, will will sloth style Jake Lee for the belt. [00:31:25] Speaker B: I would watch the out of a Jake Lee. [00:31:28] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:31:30] Speaker B: Stay away. But I'd watch it. Okay, we're jumping companies again. The Bucks and Jack, they immediately charge the ring. They go right after the demand. They take them to the floor. They're beating them up. At some point, Ricochet gets a cowboy hat. I don't know if he took it off somebody in the crowd, but. [00:31:49] Speaker A: So Jack. Jack took it off a guy in the front row and put it on him. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Okay, there we go. He's chopping them while he's wearing the cowboy hat, which. [00:31:59] Speaker C: Those things are expensive, though. So I hope they got it back to that guy. [00:32:05] Speaker A: I hope. I'm sure they did. But, like, yeah, somebody's like, all these juniors. Only junior is allowed to wear A hat like that. [00:32:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Only I'm allowed to wear the hat. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Only I'm a hat. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Imagine Jim Ross's face on Kono Brian's lanky, freaky body. You look like this horrible. No get into body or now. Yeah. What if I was gonna say this match rules. Like, I had so much fun throughout. This is. I put down like the first match. Moxley vs Benjamin in this match were both incredibly good for completely, like opposite reasons. Like, it was such a nice kind of like tonal. This was very much high spots. This was lots of cool multi maneuvers. Jungle boy is on his baby face. [00:33:03] Speaker A: It was so good. Yeah, I. I can do these Bucks Trios matches all day. Like, they. They've been doing them for like, what, the better part of a year now. They're just faces. Like, we're gonna do the coolest possible. [00:33:19] Speaker B: And I know it's been talked about a lot, but Gates of Agony are so good. Like, some of the coolest that happened were those two dudes got totally on. I think it was Pounces Jack over the guardrail into the timekeepers table. Like, just like it's absolutely nothing sick. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Absolutely disgusting. Yeah. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Like, even that. After that, they all hop up on the apron. The demand and camera gets up and Ricochet tells them to go to commercial break. And they. You. It's like, I. I love that bit. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Good job. Ricochet. Read the. The format sheet. [00:33:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Somebody heard the ref call the time. I think Tony Storm used to do that too, though. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, even though, like, even Junior was like super indicates of agony. [00:34:03] Speaker B: Yeah, he put him over huge. [00:34:04] Speaker A: But like that. He likes also very much a gym roster. He likes his big guys. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And likes his horses. They come. They were from Shmoa. [00:34:13] Speaker A: They're from. [00:34:17] Speaker B: The only Samoans I know from Oklahoma. You mumble it out. They do. They get a hot tag going for Nick Jackson. And we are once again reminded that Nick Jackson is one of the best professional wrestlers in the entire planet. Like every time he. I mean, he's really good. I know I'm being hyperbolic. [00:34:37] Speaker C: Okay, look, I like the Bucks. I don't know if maybe we'll. Let's do the show for another few years, you know, we'll see. [00:34:46] Speaker A: But yeah, it was like. Like I. I said it before. I'll say it again. I'll like, just keep doing matches like this because they're so much fun. [00:34:57] Speaker B: The Bucks know how to structure matches too. Like, they know how to build the pops and like, big moments. They really get the crowd, like super in the Right. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Like, it doesn't matches like this. Yeah. [00:35:09] Speaker C: Gates of Agony are horrifying. They're so good. Three person Samoan drop. Like the triple Samoan drop. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I was gonna say the next big spot I got here was Toa somehow gets the bucks and Jack on his shoulder. And like, I've seen people get two people up there and walk around and do a move. Seen people get three people up and not walk around or, like, they'll get them up and they'll just drop them immediately. He gets all three of them off. Walks. Yeah. He walks into the middle of the ring with all three on his shoulders and hits a clean Samoan drop on all three of them. I. They're all little guys and he's huge. [00:35:46] Speaker A: But still, I've never seen something like that. Like. Yeah, like, the. The fact that he walked to the center of the ring with it is God damn. [00:35:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:55] Speaker B: But effortless. Like, absolutely effortless. [00:35:59] Speaker A: They've. Gates of Agony have gotten so good in the last year. [00:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:05] Speaker A: And pairing with the Ricochet has done wonders for him. [00:36:09] Speaker B: It's been the secret sauce. It all happened when they teamed with House of Torture. That's where they really got it all from. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Hey, River. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah. The amount they've progressed, I think is really remarkable. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, put guys on tv, Let them wrestle. They will get better. [00:36:28] Speaker B: Yep. [00:36:29] Speaker A: Don't write them off after like, oh, you've only had how many matches and you. You're not the most over team on the roster. Well, you suck. [00:36:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's try some different things. Let's see what works. Yeah. Jack finally hits his little flip over. German looks pretty good. He still always looks like he's gonna take his own hat off on their back. [00:36:49] Speaker A: I know. But this time he actually got it. Like, he nailed it. Like, this was the cleanest to get that it looked. It looked really, really good. So well done, Jack. See, persistence pays off. [00:37:02] Speaker B: We talked about before. But Jack and Ricochet have incredible chemistry together. Like, we got somebody who's just super over as a baby face. Somebody who's like, got a ton of heat as a heel who are both incredible, top of the notch athletes. So you get them going and you get that crowd involvement too, and it's just perfect fun. [00:37:19] Speaker C: I know this is a wrestling podcast, but I just. I. I have to say, it looks like IR might be toppling their. Their government, which is pretty sick. I'm gonna need a bigger trebuchet. We're gonna need a bigger trebuchet. These burritos gotta fly. These burritos are Gonna have to go far. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:37:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Sorry about that. [00:37:44] Speaker B: No, no. Send some burritos over to the Iron Cheek. [00:37:48] Speaker C: Oh, hell yeah. We're gonna. Oh, let's re. [00:37:51] Speaker B: He was Iranian, wasn't he? [00:37:52] Speaker C: No, he's from Iran. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a. Yeah, that's what I thought he was. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Was he just, like, kayfabe Iraqi? [00:38:01] Speaker C: No, I'm pretty sure it was already. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he was in, like. He was in, like, the Iranian Olympic team or something. [00:38:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Boo was from Detroit. [00:38:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:13] Speaker B: The original Chic. Were both. [00:38:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:16] Speaker C: No, Shiki. Shiki is Iranian. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah. [00:38:20] Speaker B: He used to do the clubs. The. [00:38:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:38:24] Speaker B: That's just impossible. Like, that is a genuine fee to. [00:38:27] Speaker C: Strike Bob back when. Still does them. Yep. [00:38:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Nuts. [00:38:31] Speaker C: God. BOB back when's insane. One. One day. One day. We should just do an all Bob back when. Can we talk about crazy Bob back when it is for an hour and a half episode. [00:38:42] Speaker B: He was incredibly good wrestler, too. Masterful technician. Looks like. It looks like a little boy, but he'll rip your arm off in a chicken wing. [00:38:53] Speaker C: I'm sorry, Piper. I'm sorry, Piper. It's gonna take so long to edit this because everyone just started talking like they were on Quaaludes for some reason, and. [00:39:04] Speaker B: And saying the JR stank. [00:39:06] Speaker C: The jr. [00:39:09] Speaker A: The boomer shoulder stack. [00:39:11] Speaker B: The listeners can't see it, but we're all wear, like big hats have all grown out of our heads. [00:39:17] Speaker C: I'm actually pretty sure I have a fairly decent junior, and I'm just not gonna do it. [00:39:25] Speaker B: Too good, brother. [00:39:29] Speaker C: Jesus. [00:39:30] Speaker B: I'd like to finish this match. [00:39:31] Speaker C: Yes, please. The finish of the match, please. Man. [00:39:35] Speaker B: They hit the beat. They hit the VTEA BTE trigger on Ricochet. They do a cool thing where the Bucks launch Jack Perry into Ricochet for the knee strike. And yes. [00:39:45] Speaker C: That was awesome. [00:39:47] Speaker B: So took his hat off. Jack gets the pin, gets his win back over Ricochet. After losing the national champion match last week, I think it was. And everyone's happy. Baby faces won. Yay. What could go wrong? [00:39:59] Speaker A: I was happy. I. Yeah. Just one last thing about these matches, like these trios matches, is I always love how the baby faces hit some big combination of all their finishers at once. Yeah. Like the last Bucks and Kenny match last month, they did the whole. They did a big. What was it? One winged angel TK driver thing. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that was. Yeah, the, like, assistant. [00:40:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they. They always do something like that, and I love it. Team cohesion. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Baby faces are happy until Doyle and Davis come out and jump the young Bucks and Jack start beating the. Out of them. The man and Doyle and Davis are all beating them down. And Jetsby, who are all injured, come down with hockey sticks for some reason. I'm not sure. [00:40:50] Speaker C: Well, he's Canadian. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Well, speedball is. [00:40:53] Speaker B: But speedball is. I wonder if. I wonder if they're in, like, if Oklahoma has a hockey team. If maybe that's like, they're in the arena for it or something like that. [00:41:03] Speaker C: I don't believe there to be ice in Oklahoma. [00:41:05] Speaker B: Well, yeah, they haven't. The hockey teams. I was gonna say. Yeah, good point. [00:41:09] Speaker C: I'm kidding. It's jokes with you here. [00:41:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:15] Speaker A: No, I'm pretty sure that they've got like a. What's the word? AHL team. Like a minor league team. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense. So maybe they just found him backstage and used in his crutches. While they're getting in there and everyone's mixing it up, the lights go out. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:41:31] Speaker B: Let's. Yeah. Who is it? The Phantom of the Opera? Probably not, because the lights come back on. Somebody dressed exactly like Andre El Idolo wearing Andre El Idolo's mask. Who could it be? [00:41:43] Speaker A: It's Chris Jericho. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Hi, guys. This would become a TNA podcast if that happened. [00:41:51] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:41:53] Speaker A: I would just. I would ring bell. That's what I would do. [00:42:00] Speaker B: I would send him a little present. [00:42:01] Speaker C: I would start asking you all to hook me up with all the best Japanese wrestling old. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Become a pure show. [00:42:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. And that's it. And I would just. I'd give up on. On the. On the American stuff at that point. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Luckily, it's not Chris Jericho. It is Andrade El Idolo. [00:42:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:24] Speaker B: Apparently all the contract stuff is resolved. He was. He's been appearing in New Japan. He is a member of the United Empire faction that was originally led by Will Osprey. Had. You know, for people who don't watch, both Kyle Fletcher and Mark Davis were part of that faction also. So I wonder if there's gonna be some crossover stuff. We're gonna see some. Some Jake Lee and aw J League. [00:42:45] Speaker A: Stop saying that. [00:42:47] Speaker B: Sorry. No, that'd be cool. Get Gradle Con over here doing his crazy entrance and. And Francesco Con. [00:42:56] Speaker A: I. I put up with Calum Newman. [00:42:59] Speaker B: Yeah, Cal Newman's okay. He's doing his thing. I don't. [00:43:01] Speaker A: I don't. I don't need to see Jake Lee, like, never. I've tried. I've really tried with that guy. He sucks anyway. He's not on the show, but Andrade is. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And Andrade looks great. It's really cool having him back. I love the dude as much as he is like the modern Jeff Jarrett who is bouncing around every company every other month at this point. I find him in his antics amazingly entertaining. [00:43:29] Speaker A: He looked good at Wrestle Kingdom Jack at Wrestle King. Yeah, yeah, he did. Like I could see them. Like, see it. I was in. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just more juice than Orange Cassidy. Like, it's crazy. Then FTR in a wheelchair bound Stokely Hathaway come out onto the ramp. Assume from Stokely's crazy bounce bump he did off the table, where the table then fell on to him. I hope he sells that for the next, like year because it's hilarious and amazing. Andrade stares them down. I don't, you know, they're kind of teasing. Are they friends? Are they foes? I don't know. Setting up somebody to challenge for the two angles. Yeah. [00:44:17] Speaker A: I actually forgot that they were friends back in the original collision days. [00:44:20] Speaker B: I don't they mentioned that. I have no clue. I guess because they were all in the show. Yeah, they're all part of the CM Punk club for a minute there. Yes. Hop over to the the ring now that is decorated for Willow celebration and Renee Baguette is waiting in the ring for being delightful. Yeah. As always, we'll get into it, but this is a. This is a very happy segment. This is a very feel good segment. [00:44:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Renee calls down Willow. Bill comes down with stat and Harley who are both popping champagne. Like they're just show throwing that everywhere. I thought they had party get in the ring. Was that okay? Maybe it was. [00:44:58] Speaker A: I thought it was. [00:44:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I know they use party poppers later, but maybe it was. Anyway, even the ring, the lights are kind of up. Like I don't know if it was just dark for a second there. I feel like that happened a few times throughout. [00:45:09] Speaker A: They had some light, they had some lighting issues. There were no audio issues, but lighting issues were a thing. [00:45:15] Speaker B: I know they mixed it up on us, Willow. Willow says she's going on her two belts tour because she is also the women's tag team title holder with Harley Cameron and Babes of Wrath. Will says the work now begins, but it's good to celebrate the good things in life and that she is happy that she is here with Renee and Harley. Then she talks about how glad she is to be reunited with the TBS title and with Kris Statlander. Good, happy moment. Willow says they're gonna have a Good time. Yeah, they're gonna have a good time. They're gonna eat some dessert because this girl loves cake and crowd chance. Y. Damn right. That was very funny. Willow's really a great promo. Like, she's one of those where she could get off. Like, she could get over just on like, in ring ability and her pure, like, charisma and likability. But she really delivers on the mic too. Knowing her character, everything. [00:46:04] Speaker A: She gets it. She's good. [00:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah, she's great. [00:46:07] Speaker A: She's perfect. [00:46:08] Speaker C: I know. [00:46:08] Speaker B: I love her. I want her to have the title until tex it offer in like nine months. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Yeah, nine months. That's a good run for Willow. [00:46:15] Speaker B: Yeah, no, she needs a good long run with the. She's earned it after the chase and everything. Willow knows that someone in the back probably wants to crash your party and actually shows awareness as a professional wrestler. Talking about professional wrestling trope, which is. I love when people do this. She's like, I'm having a celebration. Somebody's gonna it up. Because somebody always comes and up celebrations in the ring. That's just what happens. So she calls Mercedes, which is brilliant. And Mercedes is back there and has something to say. So she invites her down. And Mercedes does come out. [00:46:46] Speaker A: Her music plays, her outfit. [00:46:49] Speaker B: She's wearing like, a white gown and veil. And she is, for the first time in a long time, completely beltless. She has. Even though I don't think she's lost all of her belts yet, she comes out with no belts at all during the TBS one was really, I think crux. It was. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, it. It would have made sense because it's, you know, it's the promotion title, so that's what she would wear. [00:47:13] Speaker B: That was the first one. She doesn't. I was still hoping for some belt. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Boys come out also dressed for morning. [00:47:20] Speaker B: That would be make. They're all wearing white. [00:47:23] Speaker A: She's wearing like. She was wearing like a morning veil, like one of those old Italian. [00:47:28] Speaker B: Each remaining belt has a. Has a belt, has a veil over the. [00:47:36] Speaker C: She's in mourning. They're all in mourning. [00:47:39] Speaker A: They're all in mourning. The belts are. The belt. Belts are all they miss. They miss their sisters. [00:47:45] Speaker B: They miss their. They miss their little friends. Mercedes does make it to the ring. Will says that they have tons to celebrate together. And she gases Mercedes up big style. She fucking talks about all her accomplishments, all she did, all the awards she won. She says that now though, she is the face. Willow, that is is the face of TBS again. So let's cut some cake. Mercedes takes out the veil doesn't even cover. She goes full tantrum mode. Like just immediately fucking horrible. 5 year old at Chuck E. Cheese who has had too much fucking soda like that. [00:48:18] Speaker A: That's the other thing. When she takes the veil off. Like, you see like she's been actively crying. Yeah. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Luckily she did look like her husband had just died. Like. Yeah. She literally. She flips the table over. She smashes everything in the ring. She goes after Harley and kind of shoves her around. Like pulls a party popper into Mercedes face, which she sells big time. And turns around and falls into the cake that Kris Statlander is holding face first. I believe the second time we've had Mercedes get her face just coated in cake. [00:48:51] Speaker C: She keeps getting caked. It's awesome. I want them to continue this bit. [00:48:56] Speaker B: It's a great bit. She always takes it like it literally it clown faces her like full every. She doesn't take part of it. She plants. [00:49:05] Speaker C: No, she gets the whole thing. And it goes even further. In one of my favorite images of the night. We. We should probably talk. We didn't mention it. Are weird tonight. [00:49:16] Speaker B: Kind of a lot of spotlight stuff. [00:49:19] Speaker C: Well, I. They had a lot of spotlight stuff, but I think the spotlights were. Because the lights weren't working and they were using the spotlights to cover. [00:49:27] Speaker B: Yeah, like in. [00:49:29] Speaker C: Yeah. In the main event it gets very clear. But yeah, no, like, yeah. So it. But for this segment, it kind of worked real cool. [00:49:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it looked dramatic. [00:49:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it looked dramatic. [00:49:43] Speaker C: And. And then like, we'll get to that point. But like, we ain't done with Mercedes because Willow's like, no, I don't get some. [00:49:54] Speaker B: Yeah. They get the cake on the ground. Willow gets Mercedes out for the babe with the power bomb and babe with the bumper bombs are right into the cake. And Jared goes. Got the cake. Gets all sad about it. [00:50:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Just not the cake. [00:50:05] Speaker B: Genuine. Not the cake. Too much devotion. [00:50:10] Speaker A: I love the cake. [00:50:12] Speaker B: Then genuinely with some of the coldest I've ever seen, Willow, Harley, Chris and Renee get in a conga line and dance around Mercedes small mashed into the cake like the dragon ball Z mean. [00:50:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Like dead Yamcha. [00:50:31] Speaker B: Yeah. They dance around her to low lights and spotlight. The fact that Renee gets on the back of the train too is the funniest thing in the world. She has real beef with Mercedes, but she's just like, yeah, they're dancing. I'm getting in on this. [00:50:47] Speaker A: They're dancing. We're having fun. [00:50:48] Speaker C: Yeah, let's go. [00:50:49] Speaker A: We have fun on Wednesday nights. No, Like, I was seriously expecting when they. When they did the over shot of, like, Mercedes just, like, sprawled out in the cake, just like, see, like the GTA wasted thing come up. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that would have been perfect. They do a little. They do a little collision recap about. Hatchera won a number one contenders match against Commander to get to go for the TNT belt that is held by Mark Brisco. Go backstage. What you got? Or not backstage. It's a little video package of Mark Brisco on his farm with his 5,000 children running around in the background. Off screen, probably. Yeah, he talks about. Yeah, as I say, it's. It's a standard Mark Briscoe promo. He talks about being proud of Willow. Says he's wants to kick some ass and says he's glad he's facing Hechicero. I liked it. [00:51:37] Speaker A: He ponders his orb. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Yes, he does. He puts the belt down and he does like a crystal ball hand gesture. I wasn't sure if that's supposed to be the Hechicero thing. He says he sees collision on Saturday and he can foresee that the TNT belt isn't going anywhere, which I didn't realize that was. I thought Hechisero was just doing general, like, magic hands. I didn't think it was supposed to be symbolizing a fucking crystal ball. Specifically. [00:52:01] Speaker A: I. I feel he's like. He's orb pondering because he's a sorcerer and all that. So it's like he's the. [00:52:07] Speaker B: But he was also the alchemist for a lot, which I. The mythology is confusing. I thought he was just like, he's multiclassing. Yeah, that's fair. Oh, and he does say that we don't have. He says the conglomeration is strapped up. They don't have a. A word of the day. Instead, they have a phrase of the day, which is rain and defat. Yeah, there's been a lot of belts moving from heels to faces. Yeah, I liked that quite a bit. And I'm glad to see the conglomeration they represent right backstage with eight. Yeah, it would be a tattoo that somebody got, like, right when they got out of the military, close to their brothers and their fucking Dodge Charger and their wives, boyfriends. [00:52:49] Speaker A: It sounds really specific. [00:52:54] Speaker B: I've known some people. So, anyway, we go backstage again to another video package, this time with the triangle of Madness. Tekla calls out Chris Statlander and says hello. You know, talks about her being back with her friends, but she asked how long before she turns on. Talks about all the bad Chris Statlander's done and ask how long they can stay together against the Triangle of Madness. And I was, again, very impressed how good a promotecla is. Like, she gets it. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Yep. I'm. Every week, I'm more and more excited for her to actually fight Statlander. Hell, yeah. And I. I don't know how long, like a man. Like, it's. It actually is just like the way they're calling out STAT with this whole thing. It's like maybe they will felt. Yeah. Maybe Stat won't go heal. He's like, oh, you. You had trouble finding friends. I kind of united with the woman you hate. [00:53:47] Speaker B: So part of me thought during that celebration, Stat was gonna attack Willow and join up with Mercedes or something and just get mad. I'm glad they didn't go that way, but it's tough there. Yeah. Yeah. I. I would love a technical stat match. Like I said, I think the better move is for her to get the TN the TBS belt off Willow in a while. But, yeah, keep moving her up the card. Keep doing more with her, because she's one of the best assets AEW has. They do set a trios match for Maximum Carnage next week, where it's gonna be the Triangle of Madness versus Chris Statlander and the Babes o Wrath. Got a stat card for that. Yes, we do. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Team All Gold again. Love it. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Versus Hot Topic. [00:54:30] Speaker A: Hot Tic. [00:54:33] Speaker B: I go. [00:54:33] Speaker C: I go there. [00:54:34] Speaker B: I got to get the trip pants. J.R. is gonna be the. I went to the sister's Merchantmaster. [00:54:45] Speaker A: You ever see invaders trying to hawk some barbecue sauce? [00:54:50] Speaker B: That girl. That girl. She cracks me up. [00:54:56] Speaker A: I can't believe they don't realize he's an alien. Well, that just sounded like George Bush. [00:55:03] Speaker B: Doesn't make sense. Yeah, I know. We're. We're veering into Bush there. [00:55:09] Speaker A: Oh, man. We're not the only ones doing that. Anyway, what's. What's next on the card? [00:55:15] Speaker B: The next up is Sammy Guevara versus Bandito, and I believe this was a T. ROH Title match. I kind of missed if it was for sure or not, but I feel like they. [00:55:25] Speaker A: It was. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Sammy was kind of back. It was not. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Okay. I believe. What the. I don't know if it was actually. The. Basically, Sammy was like, I'm going to kill Bandito and take his spot in a title match next week. [00:55:39] Speaker B: Okay. [00:55:40] Speaker A: And that's where I got confused. I don't know if it's, like, an official stipulation that, like, if he won, he would get the title shot, but, like, he was. Yeah, he Was trying to put himself back into contention because, like, this is the first singles match he's had on Dynamite in ages. [00:55:55] Speaker B: It's been somebody. I saw something posted. It was like, Since October of 24 was the last time he was on Dynamite. And he hasn't had a singles match on Dynamite since like 20, 23 years. I'm. But don't quote me on that exact. But it was. It's been a long time. Sammy has a horrible little mustache. It is upsetting to me to watch. Oh, he's got the, like, pencil mustache that I didn't even really realize it was there till they zoomed in on his face real close to make sure. [00:56:24] Speaker A: To get that in the shot. [00:56:25] Speaker C: Only, only, only Sammy Guevara would see Vince McMahon's post allegations and go, yeah, that. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Post online that he looks like. He looks like Robert House, but buff, like New Vegas ass. Made Ella laugh so hard she disconnected. [00:56:48] Speaker C: Whoops. [00:56:51] Speaker A: We love fallout, don't we, folks? [00:56:53] Speaker C: The House always wins. Where is Sammy? Always. [00:57:00] Speaker B: Sammy's more of the ncr. [00:57:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:06] Speaker A: All right. [00:57:09] Speaker B: This is a sick match, though. I mean, we've gone on about Sammy in the past, but the fact that he is working in his full heel style is really, like. It's where he fits best when he does crazy good offense. But then he acts like a dick about it and you. And it gets Bandido, who is another, like, just super over baby face right now. They very good heat to Pop dynamics. Yep. [00:57:32] Speaker A: It's like getting to the point where it's going to be like, if you have a bad match with Bandido, you should probably quit. [00:57:38] Speaker B: Yeah. No, he's the. He's the Xbox of modern wrestling. [00:57:44] Speaker C: You. [00:57:44] Speaker B: That was what they always said about 1, 2, 3 kid was like. They put him in. They put people in with him because if you could have. If you had a bad match with him, you. Because he was so good. [00:57:53] Speaker C: Sure. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Okay. [00:57:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker B: For 19. For 1994. [00:57:57] Speaker A: I mean, that was just like Bandido, though, is the other thing. I guess people liked 1, 2, 3 kid at the start, but okay, sure. [00:58:05] Speaker B: He was super over. [00:58:06] Speaker A: Sure he was. [00:58:07] Speaker B: Little guy. People love little guys. Yeah. [00:58:09] Speaker C: I guess. [00:58:09] Speaker B: I'm not saying it's my opinion. That was just what like, they like. I think Mick Foley says it in the books. I'm pretty sure Triple H and stuff said that was like the attitude. [00:58:17] Speaker C: No, I know. [00:58:19] Speaker B: I just, you know, I don't know. [00:58:21] Speaker A: We don't have to like that to be the case from the 90s. [00:58:24] Speaker C: You did my girl wrong. And I. I Just. I never liked his. I just never liked this. It was never a big Xbox guy. [00:58:34] Speaker B: For a long time. He looked like the guy who would sell you the worst weed you've ever smoked. [00:58:38] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:40] Speaker C: And it's like, when everyone else was wet, you know, it was like, okay, whatever. When he was wet, it felt gross. [00:58:50] Speaker B: It's the wrong kind of wet. [00:58:51] Speaker C: He's like, the wrong kind of wet. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah, like, everybody else is like, they're. They're pouring water on their hair and. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Like, baby, look like you just had it showered for like. [00:59:03] Speaker A: Yeah. What is it with sweats? [00:59:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It looks like he just came out of the pot in the Matrix. He just came out of the goo. Exactly. [00:59:11] Speaker C: No, see, the other Pac needs to show him the chinchilla boy bath and start drying his wets and. And then maybe I'll. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Like. Fun. Yeah. But one day, Pac takes it. [00:59:22] Speaker A: You look like you've just been born, kid. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Yeah, One day, Pack's gonna take off his, like, the face like he's in G.I. joe, and it's gonna be 1, 2, 3, kid. Underneath, he's like, I used to be Pack, but now I'm X pack. [00:59:35] Speaker C: No. [00:59:39] Speaker B: No, somebody out there laughed at that, and I'm gonna hold it. [00:59:43] Speaker A: No, I hope they're laughing at my. [00:59:46] Speaker B: Anyway, they. They start off with wrist locks in this man. [00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that's how it works. [00:59:53] Speaker B: But they do it cool because Bandito does the, like, gun pose. Sammy catches the wrist lock, and they do some, like, really good flippy, back and forth exchanges. These are both guys who are incredibly athletic. Bandido trip Sammy into the ropes early on, and they teased the 21 plex. But Sammy rolls outside and jaw jacks with old Junior for a little bit. Gets in his face and says some to him. [01:00:14] Speaker A: He does a little not lij. What are they in Japan? Lfi afi. [01:00:20] Speaker B: I don't think any of them exist anymore. I think they're all dead. [01:00:24] Speaker A: He does. He does a little tranquil pose on the. On the desk. [01:00:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Y. [01:00:30] Speaker A: Like, Junior. Junior. Quick, shove them off. [01:00:33] Speaker B: They're called Los Tranquilos de Hopon Now. That's NATO Naito's group. [01:00:38] Speaker A: Well, that's Naito. Like, it's. That doesn't count. Yeah, but, like, I mean, the Rush's faction in Ring of Honor because Sammy. [01:00:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I think Los Facts. Yeah, that's right. [01:00:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Los Faxia or something. [01:00:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:51] Speaker B: Even Sammy also does a little. Does a little kanamaru spot where he gets under the ring and Bandito gets him, and he spits some kind of liquid into Bandito's face. We don't know what it is. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Split string. [01:01:03] Speaker B: He then turns it. Yeah. Gator in. Get some cool mist. Blue in your eyes. Those electrolytes make you blind. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Electrolytes. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Electrolytes. There's salt, so that would suck. Suck a little bit. I've never had Gatorade in my eye, but it doesn't sound very fun, I. [01:01:18] Speaker A: Don'T think, with anything in my eye. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. Nothing from Sammy's mouth, at least no little bits of mustache in it mixed in. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Oh, stop. [01:01:30] Speaker B: But he turns it into this. A really crazy, like, swing DDT too. That, like, it looks sick. Like I said, he. He blends the heel stuff with the poppy big spots really well. [01:01:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:40] Speaker B: Even during. During commercial. I'm sorry. [01:01:43] Speaker A: I was gonna say, like, the. Like, I don't know. It was good seeing Sammy. That. That's really kind of like, he did a really good job. And, like, even the crowd actually came around on it because he was doing cool stuff, and they still were like, all right. Yeah, but you still. They did the you still suck chant, which is one of my favorite ones. [01:02:02] Speaker B: That's the. Those are the exact chance people like Sammy should be getting where it's like, yeah, that was amazing, but we hate you. [01:02:08] Speaker C: Like, yeah, yeah, it was like, you did. You did good enough that this is just heat and not go. The away heat. [01:02:15] Speaker B: He just doesn't work as a baby face. Like, if they just stop trying to make him a white meat baby face for the last two years or whatever, he'd probably be way better off in the car. [01:02:25] Speaker C: But, well, they just. It just. You can't sell me on that guy being anything but a piece of. I just won't believe you. Like, it's just. [01:02:32] Speaker B: He's the wrong kind of handsome. He's, like, too handsome. [01:02:36] Speaker A: That. [01:02:37] Speaker B: It's just like, you don't trust him. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:02:42] Speaker B: Nobody. That goodlook is nice. [01:02:45] Speaker A: It's like, that's. [01:02:46] Speaker B: Unless you're listening to this podcast. [01:02:48] Speaker A: That's a guy that, if you see him on a dating app, you'd, like, think about it before you're like, no, no, there's something. [01:02:55] Speaker B: He's got a few too many buttons unbuttoned, and there's a gold shade. [01:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:03:01] Speaker B: He does a lot of good heels. Right. Lead up against ones before the alarm goes off. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Oh. [01:03:10] Speaker B: Yeah. He gets a Tony Shabani's headset during the commercials, and he just talks himself up and does A cool little bit where Bandito, like, goes after him and while still wearing the headset, he super kicks Bandito and then goes back to talking about how great he is over the headset. I was like, that's good. Heel. I like that. See? [01:03:25] Speaker A: Whatever. [01:03:26] Speaker B: Yeah. They come back from commercial, they do some cool, like, corner to corner clothesline spots where they follow each other. They do a really gorgeous. Bandito does this really gorgeous tornado and then the one handed press slam and a big dive over the ropes. Like, absolutely amazing. Just perfectly executed. [01:03:43] Speaker A: He's just looks effortless. And like, imagine like what, like two years ago they didn't know if he would wrestle ever again. [01:03:50] Speaker B: Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, all this discussion, like all these awards have come out about wrestler of the year. Bandito's probably my pick for wrestler of the year, like, in terms of consistency and quality. He. He owned 20, 25. They do a cool spot too, where Sammy Monkey flips Bandito. And I don't know if he was supposed to go over the ropes, but he hits the ropes and, like, gets tangled up on him. [01:04:10] Speaker A: I think he was meant to go into the ropes. [01:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah. But he got so high. I almost thought, like, the spot was that they were gonna do like a really crazy bump over the top or something. It looked good, though. [01:04:19] Speaker A: It would look great. But like, if it got. If they. If he monkey flipped him out of the ring, I would have lost my mind. Like, what are you doing? You have a title match next week. Do not do that bump. The is wrong with you? You're insane. [01:04:34] Speaker C: So. So I. Attacked a high school here, Roosevelt High School, on Wednesday. Hey, look, I'm Brad. Wednesday night. And Jesse Venturo came to the high. [01:04:53] Speaker B: School today to, like, check it. [01:04:56] Speaker C: To, like, check it out. [01:04:58] Speaker B: He's. [01:04:58] Speaker C: Hey, that's our governor. You know. [01:05:04] Speaker B: The good side or the bad side? [01:05:06] Speaker C: No, no, no, on the good side. [01:05:08] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. I thought, I thought Jesse was pretty chill. Now is my understanding. No, no. [01:05:12] Speaker C: Jesse rules. He says, maybe it's time for Jesse. I only did one term. I'm owned a second, you know? [01:05:21] Speaker B: I can't abide by these shenanigans. [01:05:24] Speaker C: Oh, my God. I'd vote for the body. So hard. Like, I'm. I'm ready. [01:05:31] Speaker A: Jesse Ventura has, like, always been a weird guy to me because, like, most of his politics are, like, fine and, like, he's generally, like, actually, like, an actual, like, leave people alone libertarian. [01:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah, no, he's like. Yeah. [01:05:49] Speaker A: He'S literally a conspiracy theorist. [01:05:52] Speaker B: Yeah. He's insane. [01:05:53] Speaker A: Who's out of his mind like me, but. [01:05:56] Speaker C: Oh, look, look. Yeah, well, look, the. [01:05:59] Speaker B: I'm a legitimate crazy person. The. [01:06:01] Speaker C: The current country is currently run by conspiracy theorists. [01:06:05] Speaker B: He's like Jake Busey without the malice. Like, oh, yeah, Gary Busey. [01:06:13] Speaker C: I'm sure Jake's fine. [01:06:14] Speaker B: Jake Busey, probably. Yeah. Yeah. [01:06:16] Speaker C: He's like, if Gary Busey wasn't terrifying. Yeah. [01:06:19] Speaker B: Hold up. Gary Busey. [01:06:20] Speaker C: Yeah, Wholesome Gary Busey. There you go. Anyway. Anyways, let's talk about wrestling. Like, I keep derailing things because I'm having a very weird few days. Let's continue. [01:06:34] Speaker B: Sammy hits crazy. I thought we were gonna talk about. [01:06:40] Speaker A: Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. [01:06:41] Speaker B: No. [01:06:42] Speaker A: Gonna bring it back. [01:06:45] Speaker C: Jesus Christ, Jeff. Let women transition. [01:06:48] Speaker B: Jesus. [01:06:48] Speaker A: Because, you know. Because, like, you know who had time to bleed? [01:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Sammy Guevara had time to bleed in this match tied in. [01:06:55] Speaker B: I almost said Jesus, like, when you said that he had three days. I. This is our Christian wrestling podcast. [01:07:05] Speaker A: I didn't know we were talking about Jesse Ventura tonight. [01:07:11] Speaker B: Sorry, Sammy. It's a crazy shooting star spress from the top rope to the outside. It's gorgeous. It gets the you still suck chance. It looks just amazing. It's a nut spot. Sammy is very much like he's trying to show out on this show. [01:07:30] Speaker A: As he should. As he should if it's his first match on Dynamite in two years. Yeah. If he wants to be like, he clearly wants to be back up on tv. Put him on tv. If he's gonna wrestle like this every week. [01:07:41] Speaker B: Just keep him a heel, Tony. Yeah. How many times. Stop trying to make Face Sammy Guevara happen. It's not gonna happen. I don't know. That's as good a mean girls as I got. They do a setup for the 21 Plex, and Sammy hits a little, like, springboard cutter into it. That was really clean, too. This. Yeah. Sammy flips out of the 21 Plex attempt again and hits a huge knee. They do a very close near fall off that. And I love that Bandito. He kicks out and he raises the gun fingers up on the kick out like he gets branding. So. [01:08:15] Speaker A: Well, he is such. He's the most consummate baby face. Like, if. If Sammy can never be a face, Bandito can never be a heel. [01:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:27] Speaker C: No, I don't think I couldn't. I don't. No, no. Yeah. [01:08:31] Speaker B: I don't know how you can know how it would work. I saw him face Joey Janella in gcw, and he was so. He was out in the crowd, like, high fiving. Everybody and just. Everybody loves him. Like, he's just such a presence. [01:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. Sammy yells at the camera, says he's going to be the world champion. He goes for a super kick, a bandito, flips him out. Like he catches the foot and flips him backward into the knee strike. Just crazy. Which loads him up for the 21 plex. [01:08:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, what the even is that? [01:08:59] Speaker B: So fluid and like they just look perfect. Gets him in the 21 Plex and gets it for the win. Really? [01:09:06] Speaker C: Really? [01:09:07] Speaker B: Yep. Just great match, I think. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Great. Great. [01:09:10] Speaker B: Yep. I've heard and I've seen nothing but people talking positively about Sammy, you know, online and stuff. Outside of Joe, people generally not like it, but the match got over very, very well. As positive as you'll get. [01:09:24] Speaker A: He had a, he had a post match promo where he, you know, express his frustrations. Because, like, like the only promo time I get, like, yeah. He's like, how you feeling after the match? He's like, I don't feel good and the guy's gonna leave. It's like, oh, is that all I get? And he goes on this, like this long tirade about how he's. He's gonna be world champion. [01:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a great promo, actually. [01:09:44] Speaker A: He's gonna be a world champion by the end of the year. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Talks about his daughter. [01:09:48] Speaker A: I think he's gonna, he's, he wants to quit. He's probably. I think he's gonna win the Ring of Honor world championship this year. [01:09:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Give him that, like a little ways down the line. I'd be cool with that. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I also do want to shout out commentary. Doing a Botchamania reference. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Oh, I had. What was it again? [01:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. So like Jr. Jr's like, talks too much and then Excalibur just kind of mumbles. Boy never shuts up. [01:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that was it. Absolutely great. [01:10:21] Speaker C: I love that. I love that they know, they know their audience and they're like, yeah. Oh, yeah. [01:10:27] Speaker A: I mean, Excalibur does. I don't. I wonder if Junior has ever watched a Botchamania. [01:10:32] Speaker B: I don't, I don't think JR knows what YouTube is. I think that seems like something that's beyond him. [01:10:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:39] Speaker C: You mean that, that thing Conrad does for me? [01:10:45] Speaker B: Is that a theme park? [01:10:47] Speaker C: You too. [01:10:50] Speaker B: We get the Junior voice out of you eventually. [01:10:53] Speaker C: You're trying your coat. [01:10:56] Speaker B: It's fun to do. It's a good impression. [01:10:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Almost immediately after the match, you do. Almost immediately. MJF's music plays and he comes out with John Cruz. This Is an MJF promo against the luchador. Everyone's in their mind is playing, is he gonna get racist with it? And I'll show a spoiler. He really doesn't. [01:11:17] Speaker A: This was actually a very little segment. I mean, it is so like, Wait, hold on. He, like, he kind of gets like a little bit racist about it because, like the whole premise that, like, I brought my translator to help. [01:11:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:34] Speaker A: Like, there's immediate come up. [01:11:36] Speaker B: He gets come up. You know, this is like when your. Your racist uncle goes to the family dinner and he always says, like, one kind of shitty thing and you're like, well, it's a win. Like, we passed it. He says, not literally, but he says MJF gets the mic. He says, that was a heck of a match. Says Bandito is a talented little luchador. Then MJF talks about how he's a bigger star in Mexico than Bandito is. He talks about his matches with Mystico, selling out Arena Mexico, all that. And says that John Cruz is his translator. John Cruz then says the promo in Spanish to Bandido, which is good. I mean, it's a funny bit. I like John Cruz quite a bit in general. I think he's an amazing, you know. [01:12:18] Speaker A: Let'S see later bit for what? Arena Mexico. [01:12:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently people thought he was going to CMLL or something. It's like, stick with. Have him be a stooge for mjf. They're very fun. They have good chemistry together. Very fun. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Yep. [01:12:32] Speaker B: In the front. Front row, somebody has a sign that says MJF blows goats. And I have proof. Yeah, it's held up there for a long time too. Like, nobody thought that lasted a while. [01:12:45] Speaker A: No, I saw that. I was like, what, the other side make another bad movie? [01:12:53] Speaker C: Yeah. They had a couple. Yeah, that group had a couple. Me thinks they had a show with them. [01:12:59] Speaker B: The blows. The blows goats thing. That's the. The Wayne's World. When he has the cards and he's like doing the interview with the arcade guy, it's like this guy blows boots. And I have proof. [01:13:09] Speaker C: Goats and I have proof. Yeah. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Forgot about it. [01:13:12] Speaker C: Yep. No, that wasn't. That. That was in fact a Wayne's World reference. Yes. Well done, Jeff. I thought. Thank you. I thought I was. [01:13:19] Speaker B: I remember movies. [01:13:20] Speaker C: Who put that together? [01:13:22] Speaker A: I remember movies, but not blowing goats. [01:13:26] Speaker B: I've never remembered. [01:13:28] Speaker A: That's the stinger. [01:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I forgot. I forgotten every goat getting blown that's ever happened. I knew about it, but it's gonna go. Fellatio, amnesia should be the title of the episode it'll probably get. [01:13:46] Speaker C: Yeah. Can someone please think of the SEO here as the producer. Jesus, please help me out. Help me help you. Try to get some goddamn gfa. [01:14:03] Speaker B: MJF says it's very professional. John Cruz to come out to a dump like Oklahoma, old school. [01:14:11] Speaker C: He's got that 79 stank. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Jeff says he has six dynamite diamond rings and he came out with none because the ring that Bandido has is rightfully his and that Bandido should hand it over. Jeff says that Bandito gives him the. The ring, he'll call off the title match and he'll go in the back and he'll put Bandito over to Tony Khan and he'll face him on pay per view in five to ten years. Very good. He'll bet. [01:14:44] Speaker C: Yeah. This is. This is. This is my Scott. This. When I say, that's my scumbag, this is my scumbag. [01:14:52] Speaker B: It was funny. It was charismatic while still getting heat. Like, it wasn't Edge, Lordy or anything. [01:14:58] Speaker C: It still went on for way too long, but it wasn't racist. [01:15:01] Speaker B: But the payoff of. Because, like, John Cruz. Yeah. John Cruz goes to translate the promo. Bandito shoves his face into John Crew or shoves his hand into John Cruz's face, gets the mic and says, I speak English, you stupid son of a. Yeah, I just. [01:15:22] Speaker C: I love that. They're like, Serpentico. Go out there and be MJF's translator. Like, that's so fantastic. [01:15:34] Speaker B: MJF low blows Bandito and takes the ring. Cruz gets Bandito and holds him up for MJF to punch with the ring. Bandito gets out of the way and Cruz takes the punch. Bandito low blows MJF and then hits the 21 plex on both Cruz and MJF. Cruz soars through the air. [01:15:55] Speaker A: That guy loves taking bumps more than anything else. [01:16:01] Speaker C: Serpentico. All right, I know where we keep derailing, but, like, Serpentico, appreciation moment. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Like, fantastic. [01:16:10] Speaker A: I know what you're talking about. John Cruz and Serpentico are two different people. [01:16:13] Speaker B: Kfab. Kfab. [01:16:15] Speaker C: To say nothing of their Kay. To say nothing of their cousin Bendejo. [01:16:20] Speaker B: No, I did see on Blue sky, somebody, like, added Nyla Rose and was like, oh, you must have loved seeing John Cruz get the kicked out of him in the ring. She's like, why I love John Cruz. [01:16:30] Speaker C: Yeah. No John Cruz. [01:16:31] Speaker A: That's how I know they're two different people. Like, she hates Serpentico. Yeah. [01:16:38] Speaker C: Pardon me. Pardon me for up my kayfabe here. I start here. I started the show doing a kayfabe bit and now I'm losing it. [01:16:48] Speaker B: Pack takes the face off. [01:16:50] Speaker C: I gotta go check on my burritos. I'll be right back. [01:16:53] Speaker B: Okay, we'll keep on rolling here. Bandito picks up the belt and poses with it and looks really good with the belt. [01:17:00] Speaker A: We should have that belt. [01:17:02] Speaker B: I know, I know. It's not gonna happen. I would be so cool with a surprise title win on Maximum Carnage where Bandito gets it. It would be a great surprise. But they're not. [01:17:10] Speaker A: They just do it. That'd be a little bit too much. [01:17:12] Speaker B: Hot shotting and that's. Yeah, you don't want to play high potato too much. And Max should have it taken off of him on like a pay per view by somebody. That's it. So, you know, like, it's a good story. So we go on to Toni Storm versus Marina Shafir, who've been feuding through multi woman matches and intergender matches recently. This is a fun match. They do. Somebody in the crowd has a sign that has a feather on it that says, tony, tickle Marina's feet with this feather. Or something along those lines. Because. Yeah, or the sickos. [01:17:44] Speaker A: That's okay. Yeah, that is okay. [01:17:46] Speaker B: That's. [01:17:49] Speaker A: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna kick shame. I just. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. [01:17:53] Speaker C: I was gonna say that is the right. [01:17:54] Speaker A: Participate in my tickle fetish on tv. [01:17:59] Speaker C: I didn't realize I was muted. I was like, that is the sign writer's barely hidden fetish. [01:18:04] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. [01:18:05] Speaker A: That is not barely hidden. That is just like, here's my fetish. Yeah, it'll be. Check it out. Lock up. [01:18:17] Speaker B: And then, you know, hard camera side tickets for this. Like. Yeah, give me one. The jack off. Too hard. Oklahoma. Well, we all love tickling here. [01:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah, we're a little tickling in Oklahoma. [01:18:34] Speaker C: That was closer. I'm gonna give you. That was closer. [01:18:37] Speaker A: I. I'm not even trying to do it anymore. Just doing that voice. [01:18:44] Speaker B: Melding. [01:18:45] Speaker C: Lean it, lean into it. Lean into it. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Make it worse. Just make it worse. [01:18:52] Speaker B: This match, too. There you go. I could do voice training to sound more like Junior. Good God almighty. My gender's been broken in half. [01:19:08] Speaker A: I'm a jezebel. [01:19:14] Speaker C: Oh, I'm gonna be writing all these down. These are just solid lines. [01:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Jane Ross. [01:19:24] Speaker C: Look, I might actually. [01:19:26] Speaker B: Might be his dead wife's name. Actually, I'm not sure. [01:19:29] Speaker A: No. [01:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, this is a good, like, mesh of styles. Marina. I really tried to keep it Forward. [01:19:40] Speaker C: Yeah. You just made me sad. Like, Jesus. [01:19:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Tony's doing the more old school style. Marina's doing the technical style. There's a lot of holes being exchanged. Tony hip attacks Marina off the apron. Marina gets Tony in the ring and slams her down. I can't remember if this is. I think this is during commercial. Junior starts going on about the mother's milk being a finisher. Go, Mother Milk. [01:20:02] Speaker A: What a name. Imagine he was like, you could just do that, huh? [01:20:07] Speaker B: Why don't you just call him Mother's Milk? This is the most old man Junior we get. All show, though, is this little tangent that I think is not commercial, where it's just like. That's a crazy thing to call it. [01:20:16] Speaker C: Jim Ross's. Jim Ross's wife's name was Jan. Oh. [01:20:20] Speaker B: So I was just one letter. Okay. [01:20:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:22] Speaker B: Jane. Jane Ross. Yeah. It's funny. [01:20:24] Speaker C: Jane Ross can still be the. [01:20:25] Speaker B: It's funny. [01:20:26] Speaker A: We did it. [01:20:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Rest in peace, Jan. This episode is dedicated to Jan. Dedicated to James. Yeah. Just like she would have watched it, I'm sure. [01:20:40] Speaker A: Just like she would have wanted. No, like the. The other. The other old man Jim Ross thing in this was. And this is. He did this throughout the show. But, like, anytime somebody's grappling, he calls it catches catch can wrestling. [01:20:53] Speaker B: Like. [01:20:54] Speaker C: Yes. [01:20:54] Speaker A: He wants to make sure it's like that is. That is not what Marina does. [01:21:00] Speaker C: No, no. [01:21:02] Speaker A: Judo. [01:21:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Marina does judo. [01:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:05] Speaker C: I was gonna say it's very specifically not catch style. He just wants people to remember that that's what it was. [01:21:12] Speaker A: I know what that if you do a headlock that catches catch K and. [01:21:18] Speaker B: Rushland in Oklahoma into it. Marina mocks the. The whole dancing stick that Tony's been doing. She's dancing her all around. She dips Tony and then smashes her with a forearm, which look really sick. [01:21:34] Speaker A: Dear God. [01:21:34] Speaker B: I like Marina. [01:21:36] Speaker A: Terrifying. [01:21:37] Speaker B: Truly. She has learned from Moxley very well, I think, where this, like, that character and, like, how to sell who she is through her act. Like, she's become so full well rounded. [01:21:49] Speaker A: You know, And I'll give Tony credit for the sell her. Her selling in this too. Like, there's even, like, there was like, one moment where, like, Marina's just, like, beating the out of her and Tony's just, like, just screams out, God, it hurts. [01:22:03] Speaker B: I mean, honestly, throughout this whole feud, Tony's really made Marina look like an absolute killer. Especially with Tony being such a, like, high up on the card, like, really, like, important person to aew. She has made Marina look like A threat every time they've interacted. Even this like Tony hits a big shotgun drop kick, can get control back. She lines up the hip attack, but Marina just like kicks her down. Tony does hit the headbutt. Yeah. Even like on. Even on Tony's comeback offense, she's still getting the kicked out of her a little bit. Like, Tony does hit a mean headbutt. That like loud ass headbutt, which I absolutely love. And I guess they call it this Excalibur says like calls it a large package instead of a small package. Pin on commentary. [01:22:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. That's what they've been calling it for when Tony does it. It's the large package. [01:22:51] Speaker B: I figured that was just something. Yeah, no, I think, yeah, big package was right. Very good stuff. [01:22:57] Speaker A: And I think I'm pretty sure that just stems from she beat Megan Bain with it. [01:23:01] Speaker B: Well, that's probably. That makes sense. Yeah. [01:23:03] Speaker A: Big package. [01:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And also Tony Storm loves her double entendres and euphemisms and stuff. So it works. Y the pin gets broken up because the ref is pulled out by Wheeler Yuta. Yeah, I'm here to ruin the show. I'm Wheeler Yuta can see my hair coming a mile away. The ref calls a disqualification for it too. Which is I guess technically the right thing to do. He thought, I'm just used to with these spots. Usually what happens in these spots is somebody pulls the ref out and the ref lands and like bumps really hard and gets knocked out for like a few minutes. And they do a bunch of interference spots. But Justin Turner or whatever just lands on his feet. He's like, what the. Dude, you're out of here. This is done Cancelled. [01:23:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. [01:23:50] Speaker B: Tony wins. [01:23:51] Speaker A: Tony wins by dq. I do like ref logic where like he has to see the guy pull him out. But like if you pull him out and he just hits the floor. Well, like a ghost did that, I guess. [01:24:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I just slipped. [01:24:05] Speaker A: I like definitely not. The people that have been lurking around. [01:24:09] Speaker B: Didn'T see anybody pull me. Yeah, I didn't see a hand pull me out and drop me on the mat. So it must have just whipped out there. Like New Japan does those all the time. God, I exist on the spectral plane. [01:24:27] Speaker A: I did that through the ether. It was. It was interesting too because like the ref even thought about it. The ref thought about it saying he's like, what the. What the? And Junior is just like, that's a dq. That's a dq. Yeah, that's a D. You call a dq and then he like eventually does just call the dq. [01:24:48] Speaker C: He did it. I want to think that they did it for Junior. They're like hey, this might be one of the last times he. That he's out here. [01:24:57] Speaker A: Like well let's a little good oldfashioned disqualification of the women's match. [01:25:04] Speaker C: Good old fashioned following the rules. Yeah. [01:25:07] Speaker B: This is like one of the first disqualification like AW does not do DQ finishes very much at all. [01:25:12] Speaker A: Not like that. No. [01:25:13] Speaker B: Yeah they do. They do cow house more than they do dq. [01:25:16] Speaker C: So it was the mantra of AW reps is. Come on man. [01:25:23] Speaker B: I can't remember. I think it's in the main event. At some point Rick Knox is getting ripped apart by Junior. Junior is like talking about how much he sucks out his job and I can't remember what. [01:25:34] Speaker A: Oh, that was in the trios match. [01:25:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:25:39] Speaker A: He said something along the lines of like he, Rick Knox is a thankless job and he's not going to get any thanks from me. [01:25:47] Speaker B: Thanks for me. Amazing. [01:25:51] Speaker C: Get his ass, Jim. [01:25:54] Speaker B: They keep beats going. They keep bits going too. Wow. Marina lays out Tony with a big forearm and Mina Chiricawa runs in and immediately gets kicked unconscious where she falls on the Tony for the pin. It doesn't even do anything. [01:26:10] Speaker A: I. [01:26:10] Speaker B: It's such a funny sell too. She like fainted on to her. [01:26:13] Speaker A: It's so funny. Like Marina just like. Oh God. What is, what is the comparison? Like people run at Marina and she just kicks them and they've collapsed. [01:26:24] Speaker C: Yeah, well Tony did it last time. Oh no. Go ahead. [01:26:28] Speaker A: What is it? That, that airplane where. Oh no, Police Squad where you have all the people coming up at the airport and he's just like slap, slap, slap. [01:26:43] Speaker B: That's. [01:26:44] Speaker C: That is in fact airplane. You're. [01:26:46] Speaker B: You're thinking. Yeah, that is airplane in air. [01:26:48] Speaker A: Oh yeah, that's right. Because it's what. George Stack. [01:26:52] Speaker C: Yep. [01:26:53] Speaker B: Robert Stack. [01:26:54] Speaker A: Robert Stack. [01:26:55] Speaker C: Robert Stack. Yeah. [01:26:56] Speaker B: I had Unsolved Mysteries, dude. Yep. [01:26:59] Speaker C: No wait. No, it might have been. I forget. I. I was going to go with an A even more niche reference which is a Fish Called Wanda where there's a reoccurring bit where every time he. This guy's a shitty driver and he'll like cut someone off and the, the person that he like wrongs in traffic, you'll hear them go, you son of a. And then you hear them like crash off screen and it's like like a reoccurring bit and it just, just made me. Yep. So this is. Folks, I'm. Thank you for listening because like what the what? [01:27:41] Speaker B: Yep. Luther also gets in the ring and he's all mean mugging. And the Death Riders all got him cornered. And here is Roderick Strong in the ring while Orange Cassidy's music plays. And Orange Cassidy, yeah, Roddy just kind of fears in the ring. Orange Cassidy actually gets a intro. [01:27:57] Speaker C: He'll take his time. Yeah, he'll get there. [01:28:00] Speaker B: He'll get. Roddy rode with Marina, got there at the same time. [01:28:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:07] Speaker B: Yeah, they all. They run off the Death Riders. Claudio shows up, climbs the rail, takes his shirt off. They all kind of stay separated. And the Death Riders, you know, think better of it and leave. Orange then picks up Tony Storm and kind of holding up on her, and then pulls up Mina in his other arm and is holding her all while Luther glares on in the background like. [01:28:32] Speaker A: Wait a second, wait a second, wait. [01:28:34] Speaker C: A second, hold on. I think I might be in. I might be into this. [01:28:38] Speaker B: At the end of it, she kind of rolls. She's still like selling, so she kind of like faints into his arms, like a little bit and stuff. But yeah, first she looks. She looks a little concerned at first, but if they're doing this would be a fun intergender trios team too. Like, absolutely. [01:28:52] Speaker C: And I just. I love this as a throuple. And Luther again in the. In the chair in the corner where Luther belongs. Shining. Shining. Whoever's title currently is. [01:29:12] Speaker B: Good stuff, though. I thought that was fun. I mean, like, it's. I think they're probably saving Tony versus Marina in a real match in a real finish for a pay per view or something like that. So this was just moving the story along and keep it going. So it was functional. [01:29:26] Speaker A: I think it not being on Maximum Carnage next week was like the sign that this was probably going to end with weirdness. [01:29:32] Speaker B: Yeah, Put it on Revolution or something like that in couple months. [01:29:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:29:38] Speaker B: We hop backstage and Pac is with Renee Paquette. Renee asked Pac about Darby wanting his match because he's beaten every Death Rider except Pac. Pac says that he is not there to oblige Darby and that he's already beaten him twice. And Pac is entirely correct. He has no reason to do this match it. Like, why would he? Darby storms in and demands the match. Pac tells him jog on Bonnie Lad and juggle. At that point, this is officially. Pac is officially the face in this feud and Darby's officially the heel in this view. It's after that line that goes to walk away and Darby sprays him with a fire extinguisher, pulls Pac into the door. And says he's going to break his ankle if he doesn't get the match. And Pac agrees. So they're gonna do the match. Whatever. I love Pac. I hate Darby. I don't care. [01:30:28] Speaker A: Darby. Darby's a heel. That's all I can. [01:30:30] Speaker B: You're muted career. He. [01:30:33] Speaker A: He threatened his surgically repaired ankle. Was Darby feel good about himself. [01:30:40] Speaker B: It really feels like Darby's playing heel here. Like. [01:30:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm really confused because like this was like that's the he was still I've ever seen. And yeah, I don't know because like I make him a heel because I hate him naturally again, it's like Sammy Guevara. No matter what you do, I'm going to hate him. [01:31:00] Speaker B: Rename the Death Riders baby Baby Face Suicidas. Make them all faces. I'm ready. [01:31:04] Speaker A: Baby Face. [01:31:08] Speaker B: The only one who will not get cheered. All the other ones could get cheered. Well, have Yuta and Garcia split off and be a heel tag team. And then the rest of the Death Riders are faces. [01:31:17] Speaker A: Now I would buy a T shirt that said the elbow suicidas except Baby Face Suicidas. Except for. Yeah, as long as it said that whole thing. Baby Face Suicidal Minor minus Wheeler, Yuta. [01:31:34] Speaker B: And we are now on to not technically our main event. I guess technically Marina versus Tony was the main event because this is a light out unsanctioned match, which means. Aw ain't got nothing to do with it. They just let them keep the building going. [01:31:50] Speaker C: I guess. [01:31:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:53] Speaker C: No, technically, even the lights out match, I thought that just meant that instead of let's get it on, it's let's get it on. [01:32:02] Speaker A: For a while I thought that's what was happening because they didn't have the light. They did bring the lights back up. [01:32:07] Speaker B: Yep, yep. [01:32:08] Speaker C: And here's the issue. The issues continue. They're like, it's a lights out match for real. [01:32:13] Speaker B: That's. No, this threw me off because they turn. They're like, okay, when the lights go off, the show ends. When the lights come back on, anything that happens afterwards is unsanctioned. It's not approved by aw. It's a, you know, separate thing. So the lights go down and then they don't really come back up. [01:32:32] Speaker A: While to come back up. [01:32:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Like we were talking earlier, like Ella was saying, they get spotlights on all the wrestlers, which almost looks intentional and kind of cool for a minute until you realize the spotlights can't keep up with the wrestlers at all. [01:32:46] Speaker C: Yep. And it's like, oh, no, this is. This Was a major up. [01:32:50] Speaker B: It's almost, it's like the bit in the Simpsons with Krusty the Clown where, like, he's trying to do a serious speech and the spotlight keeps moving away from him. [01:33:00] Speaker C: I know. [01:33:01] Speaker B: I'm trying to be serious here, guys. [01:33:02] Speaker A: I, I feel like they've had light issues in this building before because this, like, yeah, I'm certain this has happened on a dynamite before. Like, I, I, I want to. It does sound familiar, but, like, maybe not in this type of match. But yeah, like that, that was like, most of my notes in the first half of this are just like, turn the lights back on. What the. [01:33:26] Speaker B: I guess we should say too. This is Hangman, Adam Page and Swerve Strickland versus Hook and powerhouse Hobbs of the. [01:33:33] Speaker A: That's right. [01:33:34] Speaker B: Yep, that's. Hobbs goes for a big chair shot against Swerve on the outside, bounces off the post. Hangman puts a chair on Hobbs neck and runs him into the post. Hangman moonsault to the outside and Swerve hits a Death Valley driver onto the apron. And then the lights come back up. So it's probably a good. [01:33:51] Speaker A: Just in the dark, like, I was just like, oh, Hanger, you're doing the Moonsault and the dark. [01:33:57] Speaker B: I did. I got worried. I was like, is this like a stylistic choice they're going for? That just doesn't work at all. Like, I, until the lights actually came back on, I was like, oh, God, yeah. What are you doing? Cocaine. Is the cocaine speaking like cocaine? What? [01:34:12] Speaker C: What in the. Mount. What in the Mountain Dew? Midnight black. [01:34:16] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:34:18] Speaker C: Chris in Peace. Wyndham. God damn. [01:34:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Say Hook actually kind of gets some good offense here. He does. He gets Swerve out on the apron. He hits a crazy, like, leg capture suplex onto the apron on Swerve. That looked really good. Hangman kind of fights back. During the commercial, Hobbs is beating Hangman up and Hangman gets away from him and he gets a table out from under the ring and sets it up in the ring. And they come back from commercials and Hook catches that. Another crazy, like, leg capture suplex and throws Hangman through the table. I thought it all looked actually quite good. I'm still. [01:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a good throw. He's good with this. [01:34:54] Speaker C: The people demand. [01:34:55] Speaker A: Yep, the people did. [01:34:56] Speaker B: And I think he's kind of. Yeah, they did. And they, they're. He's falling into this Heelish role better. I think I'm willing to give it more of a shot. I'll probably still rag on him, but, like, it's I think, the best thing they could be doing with him right now, I guess. [01:35:08] Speaker A: Yeah, like, he, he. I don't. I won't say he wasn't working as a baby face, but, like, we've seen him as a baby face his entire run. Really? [01:35:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:35:17] Speaker A: Like, even Team Taz, he was not really a heel. He was just Hook. [01:35:21] Speaker B: No, he was a cool guy. Yeah, it was a cool kind of aloof, tweener type. [01:35:25] Speaker A: Go. [01:35:26] Speaker B: You get a chair in the corner. Hangman runs Hobbs into it. Hangman catches Hook and Swerve gives him the staple gun. And Hangman staples Hook all up good on his torso. He gets him in, like, not an octopus hole, but he has Mike in his arm capture and stuff. And he's just like stapling him in the ribs. Obs then takes out Hangman in this spot was crazy. Knobs get Swerves up for the, like, the suplex. He's holding him up there. And I think Hangman gives Swerve the staple gun. Did I get that right where I get these kids back? [01:35:55] Speaker A: No, you got it. Yeah. [01:35:58] Speaker B: Up into her. Hobbs is as Swerve up and Swerve gets the staple gun and staples Hobbs's torso to escape it, which was really cool. [01:36:06] Speaker A: It was sick because he had to do it a bunch before Hobbs even acknowledged it. [01:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah, Hobbs holds it for a while, like, while getting his stapled. Yeah, yeah, I. I love that. The staple gun is like Swerve's signature weapon because it's. [01:36:22] Speaker C: I was gonna say there's no way we're getting a lights out match without someone getting stapled on television. Yeah, yeah. [01:36:29] Speaker B: We got one without any blood, which was surprising to me. Again, Sammy Guevara had more blood than this match when he busted his nose up. Yeah. At some point, Hangman smashes Hobbs with like a piece of drywall or something. It was kind of. I'm not sure what that that was supposed to be, but then he staples them in the nuts, which is always a very funny spot. [01:36:48] Speaker C: Probably just actually drywall. You know it. [01:36:51] Speaker B: Yeah. I almost wonder if it was like part of, like, because that after, after this, Swerve and Hangman go down and they pull out the board of a board covered in cinder blocks. I wonder if maybe it was like something that was on top of the cinder blocks or something. Like the way it was moved or packaged or something. [01:37:06] Speaker A: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it was supposed to have like a big cloud of whatever when it hit, and it sort of did. [01:37:12] Speaker B: Yeah, a little bit, but, yeah. [01:37:13] Speaker A: This, the staple to the penis was, I think, the bigger attention. [01:37:19] Speaker B: Right in the powerhouse. [01:37:22] Speaker C: We're just. We're gonna keep doing things to the. We're gonna keep doing things to these men's peni on television pro wrestling. Let's go. [01:37:32] Speaker B: Hobbs gets Swerve set up on the. The cinder blocks, which are in the ring now, and goes for the concerto. Like, gonna smash his head in on with the chair, onto the blocks. Banana comes in, runs in, pulls the chair away from Hops for the save. And Hobbs just murders Nana in the corner. He smashes him, like, holding the chair up against the turnbuckles and squishes the out of him. [01:37:54] Speaker A: Poor Nana. [01:37:55] Speaker B: I know he's a great, great manager, though. He's perfect for those spots. [01:37:59] Speaker A: I love him, but he. Oh, he died. [01:38:03] Speaker B: Hobs and swerve are kind of like fighting by the cinder blocks. Swerve gets up top. He goes for a cross body on Hobbs, hops, catches him, and hits the world's strongest slam onto the cinder blocks. Go for the pin. That was a good spot. I thought that looked really nasty. Yeah, they set up like he was going to do the. The spine buster onto it, which would have been even worse. At least you can kind of protect the guy with the world's strongest slam a little bit. Still very crazy. Excuse me. So, yeah, Hangman breaks up a pinfall, sets up the buck shot, but Hook pulls him down. And guess who's here. The Mooks. [01:38:39] Speaker A: The Mooks, Yay. [01:38:42] Speaker C: We miss you. Bring me some goons. [01:38:46] Speaker A: These were the most effective ops mooks in a while. Like, they didn't. [01:38:52] Speaker C: Was that Junior who called them goons and then asked if he could say that? [01:38:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Am I allowed to talk about gooning? My record's an hour and a half. God, I did it all through the Avatar movie. Yeah, that's my blue shoe. Off to the aliens. [01:39:18] Speaker A: I love them furries. [01:39:22] Speaker B: Just the answers were wolves. [01:39:25] Speaker A: No, like, the. The part of it when the books came out, like, Excalibur is like, that's the ops dojo guys. And Junior's just like, dojo, my ass. [01:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah. He was not. He was not having them at all. [01:39:38] Speaker A: Like, what the is this? Dojo, my ass. [01:39:40] Speaker B: And he does call them goons. Yeah, the Goons. They do throw Hangman into the ring and they attack Swerve and Hangman. Hobbs chains Swerve and Hangman's necks together. Nana climbs into the ring. All it. That was all still up from getting smashed. But when Hobbs goes over to him, throws hot Coffee in his face. Good spot. Got this little thing for him to do there. Hey, man, Swerve do fight off the dojo and they get the chain off their necks and they start using as a weapon. They do that like the double suit clothesline spot with it. Gets all the moves. Which is it? They look cool stuff. [01:40:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:40:16] Speaker B: Y boyfriend off Suplexes. Yeah, they're in love. They love killing little 17 year olds who are trying to learn kung fu from tabs. [01:40:29] Speaker A: There's no chops in judo. [01:40:32] Speaker C: There isn't? No. There are no strikes in judo. [01:40:36] Speaker B: Let's see. Yeah. Hobbs does get that spine buster on Hangman. But Swerve hits the house called to break it up. Swerve hits the Swerve stomp. Does his AOE attack to the mooks on the outside. They do a very cool like. Hangman gets Hobbs up for the dead eye on the cinder blocks and stir. Swerve kind of. It's kind of the crunchy that Ropongi 3K used to do. Beretta and he stops him in the butt. And Hangman does the dead eye end of the blocks. Hook catches the red room on Hangman, gets out, Tries to go after Hangman and Swerve with a pipe, but he gets headbutted into oblivion. Hangman hits him with the rolling elbow that's wrapped in the chain. Wraps Hook's head up with the chain, throws him over the ropes, chokes him out. Yeah, they also swerve. Hits him with a house call in there too. Hit the buck shot. [01:41:19] Speaker A: That was. That was like horrifying. Like, because he, he limp. [01:41:25] Speaker B: Yeah, he looks bad. [01:41:29] Speaker A: I was like, oh, God, no. What? Oh. And then he hung him. [01:41:33] Speaker B: He hanged pretty sick. [01:41:37] Speaker C: I gotta say. I like when a guy named Hangman hangs someone with a chain and it like repeatedly ends, matches that way. It's just. [01:41:47] Speaker B: It works. [01:41:48] Speaker C: It's good. [01:41:49] Speaker B: It was a good culmination to the Hook and Hangman storyline that's been going on, that culmination. Yes, well, because, you know, Hook cost him the bell and stuff and now they got his comeuppance against him and all that. So he got a bunch of heat. Hangman Swerve, got to kill him. For our entertainment, it's pretty good. It's not like the best lights out match they've ever done, but I thought it was fun. [01:42:08] Speaker A: That's kind of. [01:42:09] Speaker B: That's the end of the show. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, it wasn't as brute. I mean, the blocks were nice. I don't know if Oklahoma has Like those. The rules. Like I think it's Missouri where you can't have blood and like that. So maybe they were a little hindered by. [01:42:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they. Oklahoma's got one of those weird athletic commissions that treats wrestling like. Hence why they gave them over Nyla. Because they're a bunch of. Ring bell, ring bell, ring bell, ring. [01:42:38] Speaker B: Bell, ring bell, ring bell, ring bell. I was. I think this mat, this whole dynamite actually over delivered. Like when I was first seeing the card and stuff, I was really thinking it was just going to be like kind of a transitional show. Like not bad, but you know, probably nothing super exceptional. But I really think everything was good to great outside, you know, like, I mean, I finished. Finished to Tony and Marino was kind of mad. But like everything else I thought delivered great. [01:43:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I thought it would be a pretty, pretty solid episode if the lights worked right. [01:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Technical difficulties aside. [01:43:09] Speaker A: There's always technical difficulties. It's dynamite. I think it did have the advantage of like, Mox and Shelton was always gonna like go hard because the continental title is like supposed to be the work. A work rate title. I didn't think they were gonna go like almost 20 minutes with it, but they did. But then like, yeah, Sammy really came in with like a chip on his shoulder. Was like, I'm going to stand out because he wants to be on tv. [01:43:44] Speaker B: Over delivered. Yep. [01:43:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:43:46] Speaker B: The trio's match was fantastic. They did a great job with that. Like I forgot about that actually. Nope. The Darby was lame, but that was very small part of the show. That was like a two minutes total out of two hours of wrestling. [01:44:01] Speaker C: Yeah, but it gave. It gave us. Jog on. [01:44:06] Speaker A: Jog on, body lady. I've got to hit the dustbin. [01:44:15] Speaker C: I'm getting. [01:44:15] Speaker B: I know what it means, but I love to hear him say it. [01:44:21] Speaker C: I'm getting wet. I gotta jump. [01:44:23] Speaker B: I'm secreting. I'm secreting. [01:44:26] Speaker C: I gotta dust me with. [01:44:28] Speaker A: I feel fluids dripping down my back. That is like too Scottish. That's not. That's not Newcastle. [01:44:37] Speaker C: Cottage there. [01:44:38] Speaker B: Garcia. [01:44:39] Speaker A: I mean, it's up there. It's. It's. It's close. It's up there. [01:44:42] Speaker B: It was close enough. Yeah, he's northern English. [01:44:45] Speaker C: I was gonna say he's northern. It's all Northern Newcastle. [01:44:49] Speaker A: That's. Yeah, they. They kind of have like the Scottish accent. [01:44:53] Speaker B: Utah. Utah. Ready my dust bat. Yeah, I can't do one. I'll do Jimmy. Before the match. All right. [01:45:08] Speaker C: Jesus. Oh, Jesus. [01:45:09] Speaker A: I've never seen a man take a dust bath before. [01:45:14] Speaker B: Any final thoughts? On this episode. Anything else to say before we wrap it up here? [01:45:18] Speaker C: I need the world to stop worlding in my rent to stop renting. [01:45:23] Speaker B: Other than that, they dry. [01:45:26] Speaker C: Stay dry, folks. [01:45:30] Speaker B: Melt ice, stay dry. That's all we gotta say. Of course, it does suck, but actually, yeah, hold on. [01:45:38] Speaker A: Just. Just to reverse back a little bit. We did miss a very important promo, and Brody King had a. Had a promo package. [01:45:44] Speaker C: Oh, I was gonna say Brody King had a thing. [01:45:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:48] Speaker A: And he did. [01:45:49] Speaker B: I don't think. [01:45:52] Speaker A: What did he say? It was something I took to heart. And he said, says that violence feeds his family and protects his friends and that sometimes violence is the answer. [01:46:03] Speaker B: Wonder King. [01:46:04] Speaker A: Well, a wrestler said it. [01:46:05] Speaker C: So apropos. [01:46:06] Speaker B: Nothing. [01:46:07] Speaker C: Yeah, apropos. [01:46:08] Speaker A: You know, that's. That's. That's just suggesting. Yeah, that's what. [01:46:14] Speaker C: Yeah, you have to ring bell. Brody King here. But he said it. [01:46:20] Speaker B: Nope. Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna jog on, Bonnie lads. We're gonna. [01:46:25] Speaker C: Yes. [01:46:26] Speaker B: Get out of here. [01:46:27] Speaker C: Gone to a Brody King. And lasses. Yes. [01:46:31] Speaker B: Please know we love you out there. We care about you. The world's awful, but wrestling's great. And yes, please try to be good to each other and all that. [01:46:39] Speaker C: Everything sucks. Smile. Anyway, I love you all. [01:46:43] Speaker B: Bye. Happy wrestling. Well, I'll beat the thing. [01:46:48] Speaker C: Goodbye. I will not say anything actionable. [01:47:09] Speaker B: Get it out of your systems now, like before. Before. Free intro. Throw out anything that could land you in jail. [01:47:18] Speaker A: I mean, what wouldn't land us in jail at this point?