Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: I mostly have been sapphic most of my life, but when I tell you it moved.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Now I gotta remember how to do this. The intro is the hardest thing every time. Welcome back to Monday night Fake Fights where I, Garrett Taylor, she they. And doing a rewatch of the Monday Night wars and making it more and more ever expanding universe of people's problems. This week, the esteemed victim is Audrey.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: From the podcast Radio Free Tote Bag and from a very long, illustrious career in retail.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Yes, yes. Famous, famous retailer.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: Fantastic. I am so excited you're here. This has been the first time in a while that, like, I've had a guest who's like, y'all are one of my shows. You know, you're my. Oh, this is what. Yeah, Ria Free Tope is one of my programs. Thank you very much. Like, yeah, I love that show. So I was like, oh, my God. Oh my God, I'm gonna do a full face.
My kiddo's like, oh, my God, you're doing your makeup. You haven't done your makeup in eight months. I'm like, shut up, dude. Like, shut up, man. Come on. But, yeah, you got got me.
So, yeah, I'm here in my bathrobe.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: For context.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Which makes it so much better.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: This is the podcasting robe. There was an episode that we recorded a long time ago where we made reference to the podcasting robe.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: That's exquisite. It's, you know, it's. It's good to have your gear, you know, it's like your gimmick, you know, I show up.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: I walk out that. That alleyway in my podcasting robe. Damn it. Like, there. Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. Which everybody listening to this. If you don't listen to listen to Radio Free Topeg, you absolutely should. It is what, dating romance advice podcast. Yeah, a lot of stuff, though.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Lately we're kind of describing it as just like a general advice program and sort of morphed. Like, we're not moving away from relationship advice, but we're sort of expanding the sphere into like mental health, gender identity and. And gener relationships generally. So, like, if you got an issue with your mom, you can write it and talk about what's going on with your mom.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: And I think that is such a organic and good way for that to go because like I said, it's still about relationships. It's just about the bigger relationships and like mental health and gender and all that stuff is stuff that's just plays into relationships. So it makes sense.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: So, no, that's Fantastic. And I've been really enjoying watching that kind of expand. The first time I heard about you guys, I. I didn't understand the concept.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: Army because the name gives you nothing.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah, well, Kennedy, our mutual friend Kennedy of. Of various podcast fame, said, hey, I'm going to be on this show. Here's a link to sending questions and did not specify relationship questions.
So y'all had an episode, and at the very end, you're, like, with the US Inevitably Balkanizes. Who. Who would be your region's like, famous, famous Tom. Tom Petty in the Postman. That was me, because I did not understand the assignment at all.
We were going through a rough time as a. Again, and I was like, you know, eventually it's going to be the Postman who's going to be our Tom Petty on as the mayor of California. You know, like, I'm in Minneapolis. Unfortunately, Prince died. So we get like, what dude from Husker do we have? Craig Finn from the Hold Steady? You could be Minneapolis.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I wonder if you can borrow from Illinois and just take JB and join the con.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: There you go. Yeah, that would be wonderful. Well, I mean, also, though, we have Tim Waltz, who I guess is a standup comedian.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: No, for sure.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah. God. I mean, this is. This point is done to death at this point, but just let the man cook. They should have just let him cook.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: And we know this. I know this from the other side of it because I've been cooked upon by him as someone that. Well, is someone that wants the. The police to stop killing black people for sport. He was not great to us. He sent into the National Guard against.
Oh, yeah.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: I didn't know that. Oh, I mean, it's unsurprising considering, you know, the. Like, if you make it that far, you are absolutely entrenched in the establishment, and that's just what it is for you, you know?
[00:05:07] Speaker B: And to be fair, the people did burn down a police station, even though it absolutely did. You see what it was wearing? It had it coming. Like. Like that. That. That police station was asking for it. Okay. I wasn't there. I just watched on Twitter and I know what I saw. All right, so. But. But so, you know, to be fair, we did some stuff.
Oh, that was a wild. Yeah. Yes. I. I think sometimes people forget that, like, because it became global. But when all that kicked off, it kicked off in literally my backyard.
Yeah. So it's like, it's when people looked uprising, I start going, huh, yeah, that.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Wasn'T at all stressful.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Totally a normal 10 months. Yeah. That was fun.
But yeah, Fant. Fantastic. I'm so excited you're here and you could be me too. Another mutual that I subject to problematic 90s wrestling. As we take the rose tint off my 8 year old's glasses and go, whoa. I was watching. What?
When I was trying to be a boy, this is what they were telling me was boy. No. Oh, there's no wonder. That didn't go well. Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: There were no signs.
I don't know, like, how hard do we want to jump in? Because I want to talk about.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh. I was gonna say what, if any, is your history with wrestling is usually where it start.
[00:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Where you're at.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: I think the most involved I've ever been with wrestling has actually been in the last like 10 months or so because I hang out with the girls in the Post Ponies Discord and their Gigi specifically is a big wrestling fan. And so if there's a big event, they'll like stream it in the Discord and we'll all hang out and, and watch and sort of, you know, riff on what we're seeing.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: And I don't know, when I watch that stuff kind of like, kind of like watching these episodes, it just kind of washes over me in this like, incredible spectacle of like, like I don't even know what the I'm looking at.
[00:07:10] Speaker B: Most of the time.
That's a, that's a. Honestly, a healthy reaction.
I like to say, like people will talk about how, you know, wrestling fans are. We. It's. It's always been sort of a shameful thing.
And I, I got it back into the. When I got back into wrestling after a long spare period off, I tried to listen to podcasts about wrestling because there's a lot of them, but it's all old wrestlers telling half truths. And, and it's like, and it's great lore. It's great. Like Bill. It's like extended. It's like the wrestling extended universe. You get to hear these guys tell their own about the, the, the canon storyline that's on tv.
But I was like, this is whatever. And then I found these guys called the Lapsed Fan and they are very, very cis. Het and white. And I, and I, I have called them on this on their show. I caught, I like sent a message. I was like, I love you guys, even though you reek of cis. Het White guy. And the one host is like, I don't know what that means. And the other guy's going, oh no, we're hit. No, he got like, absolutely. No, that is correct. In the soul. In the soul. That, like, they are correct. And then, like, I swerved him at the end. I was like, by the way, I'm a trans woman. So this is like a weird experience of being a wrestling fan, then coming out and going. Wrestling had something to do with this.
So. But they're really pretty great guys. And they do, like, really deep down, like, they do the work. I'm not a professional. I'm not a journalist. I'm a shit poster who loves grabs. These guys do, like, the work.
So, like, I got into that and. And that was much more like, yeah, I want to see, like, the. The real. All of it. All of it.
And what's. So, like, what you're describing of, like, coming in going, I don't know what's going on is like, I love that because I have too much of an idea of what's going on.
So that's one of my favorite types of guests to come in is people who have no clue what's going on. But there's so much to it that it's easy for that to happen. And it's great. It's. It's the spectacle. I mean, it's. Yeah, I always say that it's the last vestiges of vaudeville. It's the people's bro. It's the people's Broadway. Because, I mean, I can find a free pro wrestling show from the local promotion that we can go see some theater outside for free. You know what I mean? It's. And, like, get a great storytelling for people doing this amazing stuff, and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, like, going to see Hamilton.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: Right?
[00:09:48] Speaker B: So, like, that. And then someone else, a previous guest, pointed out to me that it goes back even further.
And you could say it's almost like the. It's almost like the Coliseum. And sure enough, that same person talked to somebody who went to get a tour at the Coliseum and, like, relayed this story where they're like the. So, like, what was up with all the deaths? And the tour guide was like, okay, so here's the thing.
The deaths weren't always actually deaths. They just, like, faked it and then changed what helmet they wore next time. Because slaves were expensive. Yeah, yeah. You have to pay.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: Because the story you hear is that they're just wasting left and right like lions. And. But that does. That gets pricey. It sounds like it. Like, I always had that in the back of my mind, like, do you just have infinite People, how do you do this?
[00:10:45] Speaker B: Do you really have that many Christians? There's that many Christians to feed to wolves. Like, is edge there, too? All right, that's a joke for the old school. Okay.
But, yeah, no. So apparently the person responded with like, so it was pro wrestling. And the tour is like, oh, God. Yeah. No, it was pro wrestling. Like, so this is. Yeah, literally, this is. Goes all the way back to. To. This is the spectacle. This is the bread and roses. This is the. The that they. This is it. It all stems from this. This is like, the oldest living version of that. And that's why I'm. I'm so obsessed with it, Audrey. Obsessed. I can't. I watch too much of it, and then I watch more of it, and I've made a. A. A little side hustle out of watching it.
So. Yeah, no, that's awesome that you're. You're getting that experience. The. The new stuff is really great. I don't watch a lot of the new WWF if I can help it, but I'll occasionally check it out.
But Aw. Has just been. I. I'm. It's a breath of fresh air.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, I think it's been. AEW is the stuff we've been watching, by my recollection.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: I'd imagine so.
Really love the game to watch WWE right now.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Who's the. Who's the chick with the incredible ass? There's a lot of them.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: You're really gonna have to narrow it down. All right, all right, folks.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: Rhea something.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: All right, folks, let's go here. That. You could. That could be sky blue. That could be Bailey. Holy. That could be Bianca Belair. That could be Rhea Ripley.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Or you think Rhea Ripley.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: Oh, Rhea Ripley. Is. Is that problematic one where you're like, she's a turf, but could I.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: Is she a turf?
[00:12:24] Speaker B: Oh, she is a queer phobic piece of. From Australia who, like, also is kind of racist.
It's like, it's the kind of thing where a couple years ago, she got in a lot of trouble posting a lot of problematic Instagram stuff. And, like, people who are like, this.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: Is my uncle Gina Carano.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Yeah, well, she's managed to get out of it because that's how this business works. I mean, look at.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: Well, yeah, it seems like. I mean, with Hulk Hogan remaining, like, a member in good standing of this.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Community, like, none of that sticks.
Yeah. I say it's an industry of monsters. So, like, she will always be the problematic fave because, like, every time she. I mean, her finishing move is a mating press. Like, like that's how she wins her matches. So of course you put that on there and all of the sapphics just go, what? I watch wrestling now and it's just like, yeah, harm me. Harm me, please. Yeah.
And to that I say, ladies, I too enjoy that kfa. But in reality, it probably wouldn't be that fun of a hangout.
Unfortunately though, there's a lot other hot people who don't suck and they mostly live at aew.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: Who's the. Oh, she has fansly. I think she's Japanese.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Fansly. Japanese.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: My partner is like way into her. That doesn't help you at all as a fansly.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Now I'm curious. I know.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Oh my God, I'd have to look at it.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: I know that one lady at the WWF got fired for having an only fans. And then, and then she just proceeded to make more money on her only fans than she ever did working for that Nazi wrestling company.
[00:14:16] Speaker A: Because you like they. That they just. You.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: That's what they exist to do. Yeah.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: I was watching, I can't remember who posted it, but somebody was talking about Hulk Hogan being a union buster. And I was like, well, I have to learn more about this. And I saw a short clip of Jesse Ventura talking about, like, how he learned that Hogan was the one who snitched to the office.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: Yep, yep.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: And book. That is so enlightening. And like, listening to Jesse Ventura tell the story of like, how he decided that they wanted to form a union. He was talking about being in Vegas and he gets on the, gets on the elevator to go up to his hotel room and I can't, I feel bad. I can't remember the other dude's name, but he was the head of the NFL Players Association.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: And they're just, you know, they introduce each other and then he puts his finger in Ventura's face and says, you boys need a union.
And it's like, yeah. And he's talking about how, like, hey, McMahon, I was in Predator six years ago and I'm still getting checks. How come I don't get checks from your ass for being on. For being on the television every week for, you know, years.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: No, he. That's his line. And that became his line for years is I got my. You man. You know, I ain't got time to bleed. And oh, I'm in a union anyway. And then now that's a really good venture. Well, he's from here, you know, he's governor werewolves on Minnesota. Do yourself. I don't know if you can hunt it down, folks, but do yourselves a favor. When he got elected to governor, he had Warren Zevon come to his party, and he's saying, werewolves of Minnesota and Holy Ventura. No, I will love Jesse Ventura. Another problematic fave. Did he have his problems? Yes. Has learned.
I feel like a lot. He's like, I was a conspiracy theorist. Turns out the reality is worse. You know, like. Like one of those kinds of people.
But, I mean, yeah, no, he. He came up in this. This monstrous machine where, like, it's never been. I mean, we just talked about. It came from slaves at the Coliseum. It's never been good to the people working it. It's starting to get better because. Honestly, because all of the old folks are dying off. And now, like, Tony Khan is a fan. Tony Khan is not that much older than me, and just his dad's a billionaire, so he was able to, like, take his wrestling figures and do it in real life.
Like, that's what. And that's why it's so good, is because it's getting booked by a weirdo like us, and he's just like, I get all the best people here, and I'm gonna pay them well and let them get sick, you know, taken care of when they're sick, and. And. And not make them do, like, 300 shows a year, which is. Yeah, the house shows is what people don't think about.
So we're gonna go back to 1996, when they were doing 300 shows a year. We watch. We watch one show a week here, folks. Nitro. And on Mondays, when they were going head to head. But it's a good reminder and transition, a good segue and reminder that, like, there was house shows when this wasn't going on, People, they were just performing. So, like, these guys are doing this five days, six days a week, like, just. And then traveling. So, like, there's. Yeah. Keep that in mind.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Note. I like to give the guests the option. Would you like your Nitro or your RAW first?
[00:17:58] Speaker A: Which one? Which one was the first one you sent? I feel bad. Raw.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Raw. You said I sent RAW first?
[00:18:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: All right, well, I'm gonna bring my notes down here. I never did figure out the Japanese wrestler with fansly, but I'm gonna want to know that at some point.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: I just. I texted my girlfriend. Who's that? Who's that Japanese wrestler you're in love with?
[00:18:16] Speaker B: All right. Because there's so many. Japanese wrestling is a whole different ball game, and it's so much cooler, like, so much cooler. Those girls hit like godamn. So, yes, Raw. Here we go into it. Oh, I'm so happy you're here. 50 years of forcibly sports entertaining revolutionarily other various things. Unquestionably we get hot sax raw intro, which is I found pleasing for the first time ever. That's a whole other thing. I was like, wait a second. And I get it. In this moment, I've been hating the raw intro, but looks like right off the bat it's body datas. Uh, so yay, skip and uh. Oh, God. What? What? Skipping, zip.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Skip and chip. I believe it was.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Oh, God. It's been. They've been around for 30 years. I don't know what they were calling him. I just know it's Dr. Tom Pritchard. It's brother loves brother. And I was like, okay, yeah, no, I don't know. And made him look like Eminem. And now they're doing this right off the bat. They cut to a guy in the crowd though, who's wearing a sunny T shirt that says I like it Raw. Here. Here we go. Feeling attitudinal, Audrey. The times are. The winds are shifting. Sex sells, kids.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I love. They make the comparisons. They compare Sonny to Kathy Lee Gifford.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: That sounds like a Lawler bit. Yeah.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: What the was that?
[00:19:49] Speaker B: That's Jerry the King Lawler trying to just go at any woman, especially liberal women in the media. That this is the. This is the thing that I'm looking back at it as remembering. There's a lot of them, this episode, comments like that, where I'm like, I don't get it. And my dad would like be in the background going, jesus, you know, like. And like, I don't get. I don't. I don't know who these people are, you know? And now I'm looking back, I'm going, God, these guys were worse than I thought.
Like, Lawler especially will do anything he can to just be the worst misogynist ever and get away with it because he's the. He'll commentate. Yeah, he's supposed to be the bad guy. You're supposed, you know, he's not supposed to say things you like. And like, well, that's awesome that you got this known sex pest and. And like, pedophile piece of who should be in jail to be your heel commentator. Because he could just say whatever racist and awful he wants. And it's like, oh, it's fine because he's the heel.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: Yeah, he sucks. And that's the point. Like, I think you're not supposed to, like, be, like, actually, like. You're not supposed to actually be a heel, you know what I mean?
There's supposed to be a level of kayfabe in this thing.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: Not in the 90s, baby. We're breaking, like. Oh, God. Speaking of, like, they talk about, like, well, where's. Where's Sunny? She's now out here with the body dots. And Shawn Michaels is doing this story right now where he is supposedly cucked to the British bulldog so hard. And so they're, like, trying to talk about how he's a womanizer. And so Lawler, because this is the kind of human he is, says, well, he's a womanizer. So that means he must. Sean must have Sunny cornered in the back.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: And I was like, I gotta take note of that. That's what you think hooking up with a woman is Because a womanizer is someone who hooks up with a lot of ladies, you know, hooking up with is not cornering.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that's very telling. Like that. That's the. That's the conceptualization of, like, how you get a woman is you trap her.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Yeah, you trap her. Yeah, exactly. And that's all I wrote down, is the freaking kayfabe. Because, like, think we know. Because there's lawsuits about them.
Yeah, it's terrible.
So Ahmed Johnson gets oiled up, though, by Sonny. That's where she actually is.
This too. It's like she tries to, like, hit on Ahmed Johnson and what, shames her and calls her trash. Yeah, yeah. And Lawler says she won't take that lying down. And I was like, okay, I see what you did there. Get under the jail.
Get in there. Lifting up the joke.
He's a bad man.
Comes out and they say he's the first and only Kuwaiti champion.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: I was like, why? There's. Kuwait's involved. Okay, yeah, this makes sense.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: This is fine. Yeah, they had a tournament over there, I guess. And I was like, dude, I forgot. I legit forgot they did that.
They had a tournament over there at one point. Later, they're gonna go back and. And Vader, who shows up later, gets arrested because someone asks a Kuwaiti guy on tv asks him if wrestling is fake. And Vader just, like, swears at him and, like, roughs him up on TV and got arrested. Yeah.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: Jesus.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: That's what you did back in the day, if a journalist asked you if it's fake, you go, is this fake? And you smack them around. That's what you do to maintain kayfabe. And, like, they're wow. Yeah. The problem is if you do that in jail.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Vince McMahon, being the wonderful guy he is, would take this opportunity when this happens later to make fun of him for it happening on the air while he's in jail in Kuwait when he's supposed to be on the air in raw.
I hate that man. Yeah, your face exactly.
Vince McMahon is, is evil. So like, like, yeah. People are like, oh, yeah, I heard he's really bad. No, you don't understand.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I am learning the extent live on this recording.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Oh, it, I mean, it doesn't even get bad. Oh, so that's a lot of badness. Let's get a little bit of queer joy in here. Because they cut to the commentary table and all I can focus on is what is clearly a gaggle of like two at least lesbians who, who are trying not to be super into each other. And they're one token straight friend behind the chuckle. These guys just keep talking and my brain just shut down and start writing a beautiful sapphic love story for, for these 290s women who are clearly gay. Not sure if they're figuring it out behind Jerry Lawler and Vince McMahon. I was like, I'm writing this down. This is, I gotta write this story.
Right? I was like finding the trans Joy in midst of Vincent Lawler being Vincent Lawler.
But meanwhile, singles match. I guess this was really so like the body. Donna's are a tag team. They're the champions. Even. This isn't a handicap match where it's just the two guys fighting the one guy, but they're trying to play it off that the ref can't tell the difference between the two of them.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: Aren't you as a referee engaged? Engaged with the actions taking place and there's fully a man leaving and then a different one coming in. And though despite the fact that they look very similar, one of them, but.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: Also one of them's like half a foot taller than the other one, I feel like, I mean, and I, I didn't sure, I wasn't sure at first if that's what was going on or if I was just really high while watching this.
Either could have been true, but either way Ahmed Johnson's eating both of them. So it they tried to do the switcheroo again. Instead Ahmed can catches Candido and gets him with the spine Buster Pearl river plunge combo. And like 8 year old me's happy. I. I loved Ahmed Johnson. It turns out he wasn't that great.
Yeah, he had a tendency to hurt people. He did really good in this match. But I always. I've talked about before, I always go like, well, you hear these stories, and like I told you, you hear these shoot stories from these old wrestlers. It's like, okay, well, they're telling a version of what happened. So you have to, like, never trust a pro wrestler. They lie for a living.
So, like, they live the lie. That's the whole point.
So, like, you can never tell. But people, A lot of people say that he was very green. He didn't take his training very seriously as far as learning how to actually work a wrestling match. Because, look, to actually work a wrestling match, it's supposed to look like it's the most painful thing that ever happened while not actually hurting all that.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Like, it hurts, but you're gonna get hurt, but you're not going to get injured. It is. That's the magic of the. The science of it, really. And that's what makes it such a, like, athletic skill. He just went out there and beat you up. He just went out there and did the moves, you know, because he, like, he didn't have any to pull back and still make it look good. He just wanted to make it look good. And the best way to make it look good is to lay it in.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Just to hurt you. Yeah, because, like, you know, I've done stage combat before, and you learn how to roll. You know what I mean? You learn how to, you know, take.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: A bump, you learn how to fall.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: How to make it look good. Right. And just. Yeah, I guess it would be the, like. Because I'm thinking, like, even the worst of it, like, even the most extreme versions of, like, genuinely getting, you know, like, bleeding and.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: In this kind of thing, you're using fluorescent lights because they blow up big and they'll cut the top of your head and you'll bleed, punch, but you're not hurt.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: You know, and what. It. It's when they juice when they do it, because you can do it two ways.
You do it by gigging and you take, like, something sharp, usually like a corner of a razor blade. And you don't even really draw so much as you peck and that. But when you do it along the hairline, there's enough blood flow there that.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Tons of blood in your scalp. Yeah.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: And when it mixes with sweat, it really goes so it looks like you're dying, but really, you. You've barely cut yourself. Some people go more whole hog. But then there's also doing it the hard way where you. You just look at the guy. Go. I consent to you hitting me right over my eyebrow as hard as you can until it busts open. And like, sometimes we had a match a little while ago between two guys.
It might have been last week, a couple weeks ago, between two guys who are. Who are old friends, and they wanted to really lay it, and they had a pay per view where he's like, get me the hard way. But it just kept not happening. And finally, after the third time, I've heard the story of the one guy who's getting hit. Tell it like, please, you're.
Please make it work this time because you're just being the. Out of me, man.
Please.
Damn it.
But yeah, no. And Ahmed was known for just hurting people, but. But also most racist company in the history of, of anything. So you kind of have to take those with a grain of salt. Now I'm watching this stuff and going, I think he ain't even hurting people. Like, you watch it. Yeah. And it's like, especially when he is fighting people who are even less experienced than he is.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: You see how sloppy it is. And like, the older guys are doing the best they can to protect themselves. The younger guys don't know how to do that yet. And he's just hurting, hurting people. There's. There's a guy, a modern guy now in AEW who. The one of the guys who does music for AEW is on Blue Skies names Mikey Ruckus. And he posted something a couple weeks ago while Dynamite was on where he's like, man, Powerhouse Hobbs is what I wanted Ahmed Johnson to be when I was a kid. And I was like, yes, yes, that is so if you watch awc, Powerhouse House, that's what Ahmed Johnson was in my heart. And now I go back and watch his. That was not that great. And I, I hope Chris Candido's okay. I mean, he's dead now, but we get the time. I'm like, I hope he's okay.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: Yeah. God. Because, like, I was even thinking that watching the first match, I was like, that looked pretty good. I was like, that looked like you got him pretty good.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: He got real good. Yeah.
So that's that. We go to commercial and it's infomercial. And it's like the biggest jump scare of my life because it is Ultimate Warrior. Not naked in tassels and with no makeup. I. I don't. I don't want to ever see Ultimate Warrior in civilian clothes. That's. That's scary and wrong.
[00:30:39] Speaker A: You're like, something terrible is going to happen.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And it does because he is selling us Warrior University for your children.
[00:30:51] Speaker A: Yes, you too can go become a completely unrepresented entertainment worker who does severe damage to their body and become just beat to by the time you're 40.
[00:31:06] Speaker B: And like an unhinged self help guru that. That goes on to tell people queer and won't make the world work. Damn it. Yeah, yeah. He died young and no one misses him. So like that's. Oh yeah. Oh no. Ultimate Warrior is hated by even his own community.
Because all the things I just told you about, about Ahmed Johnson.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: Ultimate Warrior is that times plus cocaine and even more steroids.
And he got over. So like he was champion for a while and he can't wrestle. I can't stress enough. Ultimate Warrior cannot wrestle. He has three moves and most of them are running.
So like he is hated when he died. I. I've told this before, but it's the best way I can get it across to people. Somebody posted a picture where it's like all the dead wrestling personalities in heaven, you know, and anytime a dead wrestler would. Or a wrestler would die, would. Would post it with another one on there. And so he died and someone put Ultimate Warrior on there and posted it on Twitter. And someone's like, there ain't no Ultimate Warrior in.
No, you get him out of there. Like, nobody want him here.
That guy. So he had a. I was watching this in the AV club that we are in. I was like, I. I was like, I gotta do homework, guys. I'm gonna watch this and hang out. If people want to watch and stream, watch me stream it. And Vin Forte, another wrestling podcaster, was in there hanging out. And I was like, what the is this? And he was like, no, he told me this was a real thing.
It was like a mentorship program. He described it as like a mix between an after school program in a fat camp. And like, I can't stress enough how bad of an idea this was. Like, I want to reach back to parents in the past and tell them, under no circumstances should you let your children anywhere near that man.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: Is not good. And he's like, it's got the warrior and the WWF seal of approval. And I'm like, okay, well, in 2025, the Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon and her husband, Vince McMahon are still being sued for a child sex trafficking scandal that happened not many years before this. So like, no, do not send your children to anything with the WWF stamp of approval on it. Run far away.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: And what was the line in the infomercial where he's like, like, so you got the same chance of getting success in your dreams that I had.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I'm look away while I shove this needle in my ass. Yeah.
[00:33:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh my God.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: It's really. It's really some wild. So that was like, okay, that's a thing that talking the about that.
But we come back from that hell hole to Jim Cornette bringing Vader out to the ring and. Yeah yeah, I think. I think Vince heard me say good things about Duke the Dumpster Drossy a couple weeks ago because Vader is here to eat him alive and clean the bones. Like that's so good. Jim Cornett gives like his rapid fire talk thing while Vader is just beating the out of this poor. Yeah, poor workingclass garbage man.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: That's a large lad.
That's a big boy.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: That's a big boy.
Big Van Vader is what they call them in. In Japan fan for reasons. He's huge. So yeah, and this is another thing. It's. You're kind of. You're getting a lot of these this week. Leon White Vader, also a known bully, also did not really pull his punches. So I'm, I'm watching this and like he is. He is hitting the out of that dude. Like when he. He does this thing. Part of one of his like gimmick like it his move set. When you watch enough wrestling, you realize it's like a. It' absolutely like a fighting video game. Every guy has a move set.
We. A lot of guys have like five things. It's their five moves of doom. And if they start doing it, you know the end is coming.
[00:35:14] Speaker A: You know, it's like standing neutral is up. Like his neutral game is.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
And his taunt is just.
I would say he's the Pokemon of WrestleMania. Or hits him. Fatal. Fatal. Fatal. Fatal. But he gets you in the corner and that's his move set. He gets him in the corner. Fatal. Fatal. When he hits those like he's just hitting the out of you and it's like, oh God. So later on, Duke, I think gives him a receipt though, because he goes for a big boot. Like he sends him off the ropes and he goes to hit him with the big boot like in the face. But he like just drops his foot at the last second. It hits him in the nuts. And I wrote, I wrote that down. I was like, receipt.
Like, if you're gonn potato me in the corner, I'm gonna get you in the balls, dude. Like, that's. That's wrestling. That that is also professional. Guys will get in there and get heated. And I love that.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: The. I love that. So, like, this was always the question when you're a little child.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Somebody's gonna ask you, is wrestling real on the playground? Or you're gonna say something about wrestling being real or whatever. And I love that. The answer is both yes and no.
I love that. And it's like and. And yes. But yeah.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it could be fluid sometimes. Yeah, yeah. And that's the terminology they use is you have a work and a shoot. You know, a work is. Is fake. A shoot is a real fight. Sometimes a work becomes a shoot. And like, when that starts to happen, you know, there's a lot. You can go on YouTube and find a lot of great examples of it. Like, one time, Shane McMahon, man, who. Vince's son, is known for hitting guys way too hard because he gets really worked up and he's like, yeah, we're fighting. So he does this to Chris Jericho. And Jericho, like, goes off the top rope and like, full on drop kicks him in the chest harder than you would ever want to be. Drop kicked in the chest and like, gets up and is just like, calm down. Like in the ring, like, you can watch him do it. It's like sometimes you get like. That was like, this work is becoming a shoot. So that's what they call a receipt. If a guy hits you too hard, you. He's got one coming back to remind you that you're working.
You know what I mean? And that's. So when you say, is it fake or real? It's fluid sometimes.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: And. And like, sometimes these guys are on a lot of drugs. Especially the further back you go.
So, yeah, Vader's one of those guys.
I don't know nothing about that. Mean, Gene.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: I love the promo.
I love watching wrestling promos. Like, no contacts, like, not knowing anything about the. The one where it's. It's macho man and he's very clearly peeking on mushrooms.
He's talking about how he's gonna take over the world. And she's like, oh, God, it's incredible.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: Is that the. Is that the cream of the crop one where he's like, I'm right. Yeah, he's holding up a little.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: I was like, he's holding up well.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: You know what? I think part of what that was too, is they used to rib each other by. They, like, go out. They'd be out at, like, Denny's and be like, I. I dare you to promo on this creamer live. And try to make Jean pop. I'm pretty sure that's what was happening there is like, it was a mixture of he was on some. And also like they said, dude, go do something with the scream. And he's like, yeah, I like it. I like it. Ye. Yeah. Like I'm on it.
Like, no. And him and me. He loves to with Gene and like try to get mean Gene to crack up laughing. So like whenever he's with gonna good. But yeah, as far as. As far as this match goes, it's just Vader beating the out of the dumpster for dumpster for a while. Yeah, that's it. He eventually does the big old Vader Bob and Cornet literally does like happy clapping hands and like makes this face. It's the same face I make whenever will Nightingale power bombs people on. Aw. I'm just like, yeah, kill him.
Kill him dead. I like you, lady. Kill him.
And then we now get build up to the next pay per view is gonna have a literal barrier gaze match because it's gold dust time. Yeah. Uh, yeah. But first, Undertaker Pa Bear bring out a golden casket for gold dust. In this casket match that's going to go down, you win by getting the guy in the casket and shutting the lid, basically.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:00] Speaker B: And. And it's spooky because it's Undertaker and he's a Lich.
Yeah. So Paul Bear does his thing and.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: I love Paul Bearer rocks this.
Like, what a weird guy. And he has a.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: He has. Has a.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: He has a demonic skeleton man.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: Yeah. He's got his own Lich that is under his power because he has a magical ear in this. This Literally. I say, yeah, that's amazing.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: That's such a. It's such a cool gimmick.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: I know. And there's a reason that it lasted for so long because it's just so good. Like wrestling. I've often said wrestling is about. Is about weird little guys. And you don't get much weirder of a little guy than Paul Bear.
I mean, he wrote. He wrote that until he physically couldn't do it anymore and had to retire because like people now. I never got sick of Paul Bear. I don't think anyone ever did. Even like taker ended up not using them, but then he would just show up with other people because, like, everyone loves Paul Bearer.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: And that's the thing. So it's like, it's about mortuary science and death.
And Undertaker's like perfect for that. The fact that he would just like show up with somebody else would be like I still have this magical earn, but like, it's disconnected. Like the gimmick doesn't make any sense anymore. But like, he's still there because people love him.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: Yeah, no, he's. He's more like the gimmick. He's more than the job they gave him to do it. Like, and that'll happen. Like, because when you're really that good, that happens, you kind of transcend. Yeah, you transcend the job that you're given. And like, especially, I mean, that's a lot of what pro wrestling is. Is like, here's an opportunity. Here's like a basic. Here's a kind of an idea of what we want to do. Go make it even better. And, and if you can do that, you have a job. You know what I mean?
[00:41:57] Speaker A: D D campaign, you'd like, you come up with your character concept and by the end of the adventure, you are a changed person. Yes, character has completely changed.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: Absolutely. And it's like comic books in the sense that it's an ongoing. It's an ongoing canon storyline that is happening in real time over decades. Decades.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: And die and come back to life.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Take her literally. That's how that. Whenever taker, that's. They figure out. They figured out that they can. They can. Doctor who, Undertaker, he's coming up. He's coming up on being. He's about six years into this gimmick and it's kind of like the people still love him, but it's beginning to lose speed. Mick Foley is gonna. Is showing up, as we see here, is going to kind of revitalize it. But eventually at the end of that, they kill him. And then he comes back in a. A new and improved, like updated looking taker and they realize they can Doctor who him. We can have a Buried Alive match. He le. He loses. He goes and takes a vacation and has surgery because his body's up and he can come back in a new, fresh version of this guy. And it makes sense because he's a lizard.
Yeah. He's undead, so it's fine. That's how he had a job for 30 years. Yeah.
[00:43:14] Speaker A: That rocks. I also just want to say, Mick Foley, I mean, this is well trod ground.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Cool, dude.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: I love Mick Foley. Everything I've seen out of that dude is like, just like, oh, wow. You're like a wholesome guy. You're Santa Claus. This is incredible.
[00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah, no, he absolutely. He literally is Santa Claus. He wrote a book about it.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Did he? Around, like was. How involved was he in like the Unionization, like, because I. I would love to believe that he was like, like, yeah, guys, let's go.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: He wasn't around for that. That happened. That happened in the 80s.
And by the time he was in the Fed, that was well squashed. He. I think I. God, I think he started, like, late 80s, early 90s in other promotions. Like, he was in WCW, he was in ECW, he was in Japan. Like, he. He was huge in Japan. He's the. He's still the king of the Death match in Japan. He won that title Charisma, baby. Yeah. He won that title against Terry Funk. Exploding ring, like, like, barbed wire Death Match. It's one of the craziest things you'll ever see in your entire life. It's. It's two of my favorite live. Well, one of them's living still. Two of my favorite wrestlers who are best friends who love nothing more than almost killing each other for.
[00:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: And. Yeah. Find that on YouTube. That's good. But that's Mick Foley. Is he. I think he's just. I. I say this as someone who, Who. Who, like, knows a lot of people on the spectrum and, like, lives with folks who. Who, like, know that and, like, know that mix. Kid is on the spectrum. He's talked about it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Mick Foley is autistic for wrestling. Like, sure. I'm pretty. Like, the way he describes it is, like, he describes how excited and how he goes about doing his craft the same way. You know, like an autistic person describes, like, thing they're super into.
So, like, like, I see that connection and it's like, no, this is guy who just thinks about this. So he's like, it's his special interest, you know, like, is professional wrestling. That's why he's good. He puts his entire ass into it because he, like, he gets a picture in his mind and he's like, I need to make that happen. Not because anyone asked me to, because I want to see if I could do it.
Yeah, just. He's the epitome of for the love of the game, and I really love that about him. And it's.
He's responsible for saving a lot of people's careers, including Taker. Because, like, outside of Paul Bearer, we go back to this interview and they try to talk to Taker, and that ain't great. You know, like, the Taker needed help because they're like, Vince is basically like, what are you gonna do about the queer Taker? Come on, Mark, tell the people. Yeah, like, thankfully, we don't have to take the queer bashing lying down, so to speak, because Goldie. Goldie and Marlena come out to drop some good on us all.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, like the monologue where he's just. And then like he takes his hand and then he's like on top of him and. And I'm. I'm watching this and I. My. Okay. My attraction to men is at an all time high. Like, I mostly have been sapphic most of my life, especially after coming out as trans. I've been like, yeah, women fucking, let's go.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Yeah, women are crazy.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Dudes are kind of creeping in. Dudes are coming up for me, me. But when I tell you it moved.
[00:46:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah, dude. No. Go Justice. He's got a great ass. No. And he's so good at this. And all this is because Vince hates his dad. So he gave him the queer gimmick to try to like, punish him. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to make this, dad. No, Vince hates his dad. Gold Dust dad is, is, is the American Dream, Dusty Rose.
[00:46:57] Speaker A: I was like, what?
[00:46:58] Speaker B: No, no, no, Gold. Gold Dust dad is a guy named the American Dream, Dusty Rhodes, who was.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: Like, I know, I've heard this name.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And he was like one of Vince's main. He's one of the guys that when Vince was going around buying everyone out, Dusty told him to shove it and like try and like tried to get him to come in. Dusty would never play nice. So he was like Dusty's main competitor for a while. And he hates his dad like they, they. He ended up coming to the WWF for a while and he treated him like. And he gave him all these awful gimmicks to try to punish him. He didn't like the guy. And like, Vince doesn't care about making a good product. He cares about wielding his power around personal vendettas and. Yeah, exactly. So when he gets his hands on Dusty's boy, he's like, well, I'm gonna make you the. Yeah, you're gonna send you out there. And then murders it a pale horse and the man that rides him. Death Tombstone 1993. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Because he's like, all right, I'm gonna be a dragon queen obsessed with movies. And it's like, holy. That's what he does. Doesn't. He makes all these movie references that pop me, but oh, my God. Says he loves. He's so tall and strong and stiff and. Oh, my God, what's that intoxicating scent? Is that embalming fluid number five.
Like, oh, my. Like, he's. And he wrote. They don't really have, like, writers at this point. So, like, this is Dustin. Like, Dustin is just putting this together. And, like, oh, my God, he's so good. And he starts on, what you ever heard about rigor mortis? And that's, like, enough. Mar.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: That was the moment I was like, oh, no.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: This is, like.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: Like, this is legitimately actually fully really doing it for me.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: Like, oh, no, this is. All right. I got a separate spreadsheet for the pod. How many times have I showed people gold? Dustin is awakened. Something.
Because it's happened more than once.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he's so good.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: Yeah. You kind of can't literally, really.
[00:48:59] Speaker A: There's a literal wig snatch.
[00:49:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. But no, that. Yeah, that's enough. He snatches his wig. Things are looking bad for our Quiro. Here comes. But here comes the deranged individual who is my other hero, mankind. He's gonna up that Nazi lich. So Foley does his foreplay finisher, where he sticks the fingers in the mouth until you go. Go paralyzed. And then, like, he knocks taker out for gold dust. He's like, all right, now give him a laugh. There's cats. And he does this, like, super hot strip tease on him. Much pearl clutching. I'm pretty sure they cut something out because I'm pretty sure this is the night where infamously. Because, like, taker is an undertaker. If you do not know, I recently found out actual, like, Nazi. Nazi, yeah. Like, he was signing stuff earlier, like, in this era. Signing stuff. 88. And.
Yeah. I didn't realize it was.
[00:49:56] Speaker A: That's brutal. Because, like, I knew. Like, it's sort of like how, you know, if anybody's listening this far in the future, we are in the midst of the second Trump administration. And what I've always been saying, it's not great, it's no good, but it's. It's only slightly more blatant than the act than the standard Republican playbook. Like, it's only slightly more destructive and horrifying. Like, this is just. This is just what the right wants. Right?
[00:50:25] Speaker B: Yeah. They just took the mask off. Yeah.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: And you kind of. You kind of think maybe he's. Oh, maybe he's just like a Tucker Carlson Republican. And then you find out that he's signing 88, and you're just like, yeah, no, exactly.
[00:50:36] Speaker B: I thought, like, okay, maybe he got a little radicalized with the trees. Mega. I Was like, maybe he's a mega guy. That's. That happens. He's from. No. So he's always. So I guess he was very uncomfortable with this. And Dustin knows what he's about and does not care at all, which makes him so much hotter. So I guess 100%. I think they cut out at one point. I think he might have, like done something with his mouth very close to another region.
And they cut that out of the broadcast because Raw isn't live at this point. Nitro is live, but Raw is. Is edited together. So they cut that out. But you can kind of hear the tail end of a pro clutch when he's pulling away. And I was like, is that the night where Dick. Like, I think that's the night. I think we just saw the night where he went. He's like, it. I'm going for the dick.
Huh?
[00:51:25] Speaker A: I'm gonna work the undertaker on. On stage.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: And there's nothing he can do about it because he's got to be this undead guy.
[00:51:32] Speaker A: You're knocked out.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: He can't.
Yeah, he can't. Yeah. So they would rib each other trying to make each other pop and break on live tv. It's like, oh, it's so good. So, yeah, eventually Dustin's celebrating, but Taker wakes up and chases him out and it's like, okay, that was holy. You picked a hell of a gold dust episode to come on here for.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: This is cool. This was cool.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: Yeah, this was. That was one of the all time best ones, bar that whole model S tier. Dusty. So unfortunately though, we come back from a commercial and they're going to feed Aldo Montoya to a baby jibble. This is John Bradshaw Layfield, who is still going as Justin Hawk Bradshaw. This is another guy who, like, right wing piece of. He had a show on Fox News for a while. This.
Everyone kind of hates. Hates him. Bully. No one in the back really likes him that much except for his few friends, which is like Taker and Ron Simmons. And which is wild to me because Ron Simmons was the first black world heavyweight champion ever, basically. And like, is it like all. And he. Not with this racist redneck piece of.
I don't understand people. Wrestlers are a different breed. Last time. Last time we saw this guy, he was having a hell of a match against a Japanese wrestler named Hakushi. Was amazing. Amazing. And it was. It was all right. This match is. Whatever.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: I do have confirmation on who the wrestler we were trying to think of earlier is. Maki Ito.
[00:53:02] Speaker B: Maki Ito. Okay. Maki Ito has A fancy.
[00:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:06] Speaker B: All right, well, now you're seeing me react to that in real time.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: I did actually briefly subscribe, but it's, it's, it's tame for the, for the platform, but.
[00:53:18] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:53:19] Speaker A: Still quite good.
[00:53:20] Speaker B: Holy hell. Okay. No. Maki Ito is amazing. Makito is the cutest wrestler in the world. She also tags team tag teams with a guy named Nick Gage, who is the gnarliest deathmatch wrestler currently alive.
Yeah. Which is great because then you get to see Maki Ito cut people with pizza cutters. It's wonderful.
So she has a Fanley and she. I love, I love pro wrestling. It's better than the thing you. Yeah, it's. It's the best thing.
So this match kind of sucks. So I don't mind find that they do the. They normally do where like wrestling's happened, so let's not pay attention to it. They cut to this guy on commentary who is also a. This guy is a piece of name of Dutch Mantel. This guy is going to go on to be a manager in like from like 20, like 14 through the first election of Trump. He, he manages this guy who's like an all American amateur wrestler. But they basically his gimmick is he's like a telegram Nazi character. Character. Their whole thing is like we the people, they go out there and they get the whole crowd to go, we the people. And like, it's.
[00:54:24] Speaker A: Ah, you're one step away, my guy.
[00:54:26] Speaker B: Yep. One more. He got one. Dude. This.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: One more move, dog.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: One more move, dog. You're like, yeah, exactly. It's not great. So, yeah, that's this kind of guy. So Dutchman tells here talking. It's all gross. I don't like it. This match is very forgettable and that's fine by me. Me. Which is unfortunate because Aldo Montoya is pretty cool. But he finally like, he manages to knock him down with like three drop kicks and. But it doesn't go well. JBL hits the clothesline from hell for three. Just, just hits him with his arm real hard. Sometimes it's not fancy. Sometimes I'm just gonna hit you with my arm real hard.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:01] Speaker B: Yeah. And they, they proceed to brand him, uh, which is a, a wonderful little gimmick. Uh, but much to Terry Funk chagrin, it looks like they just. I think they just stamp him with head henna. They didn't like actually brand him there. There's a guy named Terry Funk who I mentioned earlier, who is the guy who loves almost killing McFoley.
He is currently in the ECW while this is going on, literally branding people without branding.
So, like, they're like, we gotta do that. But he's just stamping him with a little head on.
We come back from. Yeah, that's metal. As we come back for commercial to previously mentioned war porn. This was a shock. The they're just showing us footage of Kuwait and, like, everything happening in there. And I was like, oh, wow, it was the 90s. Yeah.
[00:55:57] Speaker A: It's like this is what I was talking about how, like, this is such a beautiful lens into, like, the zeitgeist of that moment. This is an excellent way to kind of digest what regular ass people were being told.
[00:56:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:12] Speaker A: About the way things are.
Gnarly.
[00:56:17] Speaker B: Really wild. Yeah. And I will say they did follow it up with some really cool footage of a show. Like an actual, like, wrestling show. Like, seeing Kuwaiti wrestling fans was pretty cool. Like that. That's awesome. I love that. The proof. This is global always has universal.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:56:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's universal. Then they're like, okay, now Sean is.
Shawn Michaels is having what I'm sure is a riveting conversation with some women on beach.
And I'm just like, somebody save them. And then here comes Dog to try.
[00:56:52] Speaker A: Throw him in the surf.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah, throw him in the surf. And he, like, tries to drown him for, for the cuckold.
And I was like, okay, this is, that is a fun little bit.
And Triple Paul, Triple H comes back. And I took note here that this whole thing is brought to you by Butterfinger blasting.
And I was like, was all 90s advertising that horny. I, I, I don't know because, like, that seemed very blatant to me. That wasn't wrestling. That was the copies.
Butterfinger, like, his butter finger blasting. You know, like my finger, like, did y'all know what that means?
[00:57:30] Speaker A: You simply must know what that means. You work in the space.
[00:57:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:34] Speaker A: Like butt is in the name of your candy.
[00:57:39] Speaker B: But.
[00:57:40] Speaker A: And finger.
[00:57:41] Speaker B: And finger.
[00:57:43] Speaker A: It's like, don't say blasting at any point.
It's off limits for you. It's just not available. And like, maybe that's not fair fair. But, like, that's just how the world works.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: You can't do that.
[00:57:56] Speaker A: Guy simply cannot.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Holy hell. So that was a weird little thing. And I guess our main event is going to be the champion. Shawn Michaels gonna come kick ass for his people. And this is actual. Him and Triple H are like real life best friends. Basically. They, they now run the company, more or less. Rock is technically Rock is their boss, which makes Me, very funny. Me make me. Makes me very, like, happy and giggle a whole lot. I find that to be super funny because they were all like, oh, Triple H, the. The guy in there, Hunter, Hearst Helmsley, the. The blue blood, he married Vince's daughter. So he played the long game and now he's like the head chief. Like chief executive. Like, like chief contact officer. He's in charge of like, oh, he's the booker, basically. He's the one who writes all the. He's like Vince's old job. So, like, he has Vince's old job without Vince's power. Because Vince's power is held by Dwayne the Rock Johnson because he got more Hollywood money and he was able to buy it. Like you.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: You.
[00:59:04] Speaker B: You bought your job by screwing my. The guy's daughter. I just bought the job straight cash, homie.
[00:59:11] Speaker A: I just went and did Jumanji.
[00:59:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
When that happened, I was like, you know, all of these guys suck. But it's pretty funny that like, like Triple H, who is like, I'm sorry, pretty. I'm pretty sure that dude's a white supremacist. I have a dossier of reasons.
[00:59:32] Speaker A: I was wondering what his deal was because you. It seems like you can't get anywhere in this industry without sucking quite a bit.
[00:59:38] Speaker B: It really kind of comes down to Goldust and Mick Foley being the only two who don't suck.
Like, it really. I mean, modern stuff, there's a lot better. There's a lot more great people. I mean, AW has multiple non binary wrestlers. The. The.
The second woman's champion in AW was a trans woman. Oh, hey. A native. A black native trans woman named Nyla Rose. Who.
Amazing. The native beast. She rules her. Her wife does like, the co. Like, does costuming for her. Like, runs a business doing costume for wrestlers. So like, right. They're amazing. They're on Blue sky now. They're a wonderful follow. She's a poster. Nyla Rose is a poster. But yeah, like, so, like, aw, we're. We're here. We've always been here, but now we get to be out. Like, there's openly gay wrestler in aw. Like, we're. And it's not a big. The only. The only time. It's not the only time. The only time it was bit was like, they did it one time where this lady tried to hit on Anthony Bowens to like, get her way by using her feminine ws. And the whole crowd starts going, he's gay, he's gay.
Like, sorry, honey, I'm gay.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: Swing a Myth.
[01:01:00] Speaker B: It was so good. It was like, okay, that's how you can do those bits without it being offensive. You could. You just. You let the people who actually are that do it, you know? Right.
Yeah. And then it becomes funny. Funny. So, like. Yeah. So long story short, I went on that tangent because Sean and Triple H are fighting. It's like, oh, my God. Neo and Morpheus are fighting. Like, the two guys who end up are the. The number one and number two of creative right now.
And I kind of. I wrote down here, like, you can kind of see how that happened because this match feels very sports entertainment to me. It feels very much like modern wwe, which feels very fantastic pick, in my opinion. I. I'm gonna get yelled at. I'm not the type of person who's like, aw, good w bad. I have lots of reasons why I don't like wwe, and none of them are because I like aew. Does that make sense? A lot of people. Yeah, that's. This fandom is not great, you know, Like, a lot of them are. And a lot of people will become very, very tribalist and saying, like, I'm a WWE fan and aw is and vice versa. I refuse to do that. Does the graphs make me happy? And are they made by people who are. Probably want to kill me in a camp? Like, these are the things that that matter.
Do. Do. Does one of them employ people that might want to kill me?
[01:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:02:27] Speaker B: Yes. But okay, I can. I'm pretty sure Tony Khan doesn't want to kill me in a camp. I'm happy with that, you know? So, like, I'll take that. So that's kind guy. Like, Whereas I'm pretty sure Triple H wants to kill again.
Pretty sure. So, like, yeah, I don't like watching it. Plus, I don't like how fake and orchestrated. And you can just. I know what's going to happen next because I've seen these guys do this match, you know, and it's like, I've never seen this match, but I've seen these guys do this match. So it's just like, it did nothing for me.
Meanwhile, like, that's like a really. A lot of. All I have to say about a lot of this match, except Mr. Perfect comes out at one point and I want his jacket because It's. It says Mr. Perfect. It's sparkly on the back. And I was like, does it come in pink? And Miss Perfect. That would be fun.
But the cr. The match just crawls.
[01:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I think at this point, I was playing Brawl on Arena I was playing Magic the Gathering arena at this point.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, yeah, we're getting to the main event. Do whatever. I will say that this is like the busiest match that I've seen Paul have so far as far as pos for posterity sake of folks who are might be listening to this to actually get the full knowledge of this entire stretch. I sometimes, like, this isn't just shit posting. I'm kind of technically, like, taking record of all this. Yeah, yeah, there's a. There's a little bit of oral record.
So for that sake, this is kind of one of the most busiest matches. And I feel like it's because Sean's like, okay, you just got your ass kicked by the ultimate warrior at WrestleMania. Things aren't great for you, buddy. You're not going to win because I'm the champion. But why don't you come do every move, you know, while you are on TV fighting me? So that show. This is a Triple H show he's doing. I have not seen him do before. And everything they're doing is way faster than. Than he normally works. And I was like, all right, there you go. Go. So I see what y'all doing. It's all right. We come back from commercial and they're like, having a. A rest hold. They're just kind of cuddling on the mat, you know, doesn't last for long, basically.
Triple H goes for his finisher three times, tries to get a pedigree, and Shang gets out of it three times, eventually kicks his head off with his finisher. It's good for the three. There you go. I. I wanted to get through that because I feel like I had to. But I'm going to be honest with you, folks. I didn't give a. About this match. I'm not sure they gave a match other than making Paul look good.
Commentary certainly didn't give a. About this match.
They don't. They don't. Vince actively hates pro wrestling, so, like, he has a pro wrestling.
[01:05:11] Speaker A: Interesting. That's an interesting wrinkle.
[01:05:14] Speaker B: No, it really is. Like, he. He. That's why he. For the longest time, they couldn't say pro wrestling on wwe. They had to call it sports entertainment because. Yeah. And it wasn't until he got kicked out in the last two years. Years. Two years ago. It was a big deal. It was a big deal when they started saying wrestling on WWF again like that. Yeah, no, it's a cult. Vince had a cult. Like, that's. It's a cult. It's not just A company.
[01:05:41] Speaker A: Like, it's like a slick capital. Like, very invested in capital, kind of. He wanted to be sports entertainment. Yeah.
[01:05:50] Speaker B: Yeah. He was like, I'm. I, He. He's like, wrestling is carnage. That my dad did, and my dad never loved me, so I wanted to destroy everything he made because it's carny and it's beneath me. He hates himself because he, he was. He's. He's not. He's not this rich dude that he is now. He, He's. He was born lower class. His dad wasn't there. His mom didn't like him and may or may not have, like, been abusive. Like, he, he didn't have a great life and, like, he's just been working on something bite ever since.
Yeah. And, like, so Vince McMahon is. Is probably history's biggest monster, I really think. I think he might be's biggest monster.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Really, really awful dude. From everything that I've, like, I. I don't know if I've ever heard a kind word about Vince McMahon.
[01:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And he hates wrestling because of all of that stuff. So even though he's in charge of this wrestling company, he wants to make it a legitimate entertainment company company. So, like, when there's this documentary called beyond the Mat, and they interview him and he's all. He's trying to act all slick and he's like, well, I know the secret. We make movies. And then he proceeds to, like, chug this water bottle. Like he's trying to be all slick and, like, look like it's cool. He's like, oh, my God, I have a water. Oh, no, I'm gonna do it. We make movies.
[01:07:12] Speaker A: And then just gone on slugging it.
[01:07:16] Speaker B: Oh, don't say I never sacrificed for the pod, folks. Yeah, just slugging it back. Oh, God, I'm gonna burp so bad. It's gonna be so gross.
Just, like, wrong. Yeah. Yeah. He's a weird dude. The point of.
[01:07:30] Speaker A: He's a weird dude from the facial, acting like, he, look, he looks deranged.
[01:07:36] Speaker B: He kind of is. Yeah. I think he might actually be kind of deranged. I don't know. That's the end of Raw. I don't really have much else to say about.
It was pretty fun. There was a lot of good stuff. And it ended with a fizzle, but. Yeah. So I don't have much landing. Did not stick the landing. Vince is. Is deranged and messed up and wants to think he makes movies, but really he's just a wrestling guy like his dad.
And now I chug Too much water.
[01:08:03] Speaker A: He is fun to look at sometimes because he'll like. He'll mug like the. My. One of my favorite meme formats of all time. Is Vince McMahon getting progressively more excited.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: Yes. No.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah, that's perfect.
[01:08:16] Speaker B: No, he's really. He was very good at what he did. You know what I mean? Eventually. He's not commentary, and I will never give him that. Oh, God. Oh. Oh, no. This is what I get for my hubris. Okay. Sorry, I muted it. Oh, that was disgusting. Oh. Oh, holy crap.
[01:08:33] Speaker A: You listen to my show. You know what the. It's like we just let him fly. We're like, who gives a.
[01:08:39] Speaker B: You know? Oh, God. You know, I probably should have. In honor of you being here. That way.
[01:08:48] Speaker A: I make the decision to like, early on, we were basically. We sat down to record, like our first episode. And I was like, okay, so we have no budget. We're completely diy.
Let's. It's just. Let's go with. With low class. Loveline was the idea. Let's do Loveline, but kind of shitty. And that's exactly what we did. And here we are.
[01:09:12] Speaker B: And it worked. It worked very well. No, that. That's super. It.
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[01:10:34] Speaker A: What? Not.
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[01:10:41] Speaker B: Well, hell, back to you, Garrick.
We're back, folks. Nothing weird happened. I have no idea what just broke in there. But we are back to nitro and it's live. We are six days out from slamboree Patreon, folks. Coming soon. And Lex Luger is sleeping outside. I don't know why he looks. He looks comfy.
Random little bit of Lex waiting in line for something.
I tried to figure it out and the times don't line up because I was like. Well, people were like waiting in line for Phantom Menace this. But that's three years from now. What is. What are they commentating on? Do they just want to have Lex outside? What is this? Oh, I don't know. He's. It's bizarre. We're in Nashville. Pepe the dog is dressed, I think like Roy Orbison. I can't tell, but obligatory Pepe talk. He's here, he's dressed up. I'm beginning to feel bad for this dog.
Thankfully his dad is not going to be on commentary much longer and he longer have to show up. Work.
That poor baby. Oh, grabs time. Steiner Brothers and Public freaking Enemy. I love their gear this week for Steiners though. It's like pink and confetti. Like, like a new.
[01:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that was so like, like cartoon. Like, like action burst.
[01:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it was so good. How do you feel two brothers, these brothers. Steiner, cuz they are. Are a thing.
[01:12:13] Speaker A: Overwhelming. Yes.
[01:12:17] Speaker B: That's a good, good word. I was like, what's one word for how you feel about the Steiner brothers? Overwhelming. All right. No, that's fantastic. Because I was like. I don't even know what to say about these guys sometimes. So I'm gonna ask the guest today, what do you think about the Snyder brothers? Overwhelming.
[01:12:34] Speaker A: I found a picture. They're rocking Michigan gear. So I, as an OSU alum, I do have to. I do have to take issue.
[01:12:44] Speaker B: They're instant heels for you.
[01:12:47] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:12:48] Speaker B: Oh, no. So you're on Public Enemy side. You get the. The Public Enemy. So yeah. Jesus. Yeah. No, they are Michigan guys. They were like really good amateur collegiate wrestlers and shit like that. So that's like their big thing. That's why the guy still wears the whatever. But really they're just. They are just on so much juice. Just so. Just juice to the gills. And you just so huge. And they are just going to take these very large men and just throw them around. Just. Just whatever. So that's what's happening. Woo. Yeah. The more offensive nasty boys Get. They got nothing going on here. These guys. Whole thing is they do punches and kicks and they put people through tables. They're. They're like hardcore wrestlers. They're from ecw. They got brought up to wcw, and WCW kind of deal with them because you can't, you know, like, stab people on Turner national television. Like, yeah, yeah. Jane Fonda doesn't like it. They get. She gets mad when he did.
Ted gets in trouble. Yeah. So, like, you can't do that. And she's right to do so at Spartan Barbaric. I love Jane Fonda. That's not Jane Fonda. Dig? I need to make that clear. The closest I got to Jane Fonda was the day. First day I got at Standing Rock. The first job I was given was to unpack a ton of buffalo that she donated that got delivered from across the. So, like, Jane Fonda was across the buffalo meat. And, like, I was like, that's cool. Take that dad who always used to give her for, like, being against the Vietnam War. You.
[01:14:28] Speaker A: I got.
[01:14:29] Speaker B: I got Hanoi Jane's buffalo meats. Suck it.
I'm gonna turn it into something that.
[01:14:37] Speaker A: Is the most unique sentence I've ever heard.
Hanoi Jane's buffalo meat. Suck it.
[01:14:42] Speaker B: Suck it.
That's. That's my life, baby. That was. I've seen some weird. Yeah. We turned it into food for, like, 200 people. It was awesome.
I got. Basically, I went out there and just cooked for, like, a weekend because I was. I used to be a cook before the pandemic. And I was like, I can cook for a lot of people. Yeah. I was like, let's do slanging bison. Exactly. And potato pancakes. It was a good time. I got thanked for those. But. Yeah. So, like, Public Enemy. I remembered can't do their normal thing, so they don't have a lot going to do here. So this match just becomes the two large, terrifying men. Just throwing these guys around, whipping them around. Yeah. Scooter Pie is so jacked. Scott. Scott Snider is horrifying. And you have his brother. Brother, Puppy Boy Rick, who. Who does some posing and barking for the people.
And I. I find myself wondering, did people make signs at the Coliseum? You know, like.
Like, was that Death Return?
Yeah.
[01:15:57] Speaker A: I wonder if there were marble statue guys. Guys.
[01:16:02] Speaker B: I hope so.
[01:16:04] Speaker A: I guess they're the ones that are making the marble statues.
[01:16:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
Well, it's like. Well, instead of selling, like, they used to sell the wrestlers that you could, like, stick on your walls, you know?
[01:16:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Like a fat head.
[01:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah. You used to be like wrestler fatheads and in coliseums, it's just like you got to come out with the boulder and come to your bedroom and chart, you know, chisel out your favorite gladiator and hope he doesn't get killed next week.
Damn. Damn, dude, that was expensive. Now, it was a lot of work.
They got worked real hard. My dad the Senator really paid a lot for this. We're not going to talk about that, but yeah, this match for the most part is exactly what I thought it'd be. They're doing some punching and kicking and the Steiners are killing them. They're showing us suplex artistry that consists only be achieved with just the blackest of market of gender affirming. HRT is when these guys layer giddy.
[01:17:05] Speaker A: Guys, I've got it up on this on the, on the split screen here.
[01:17:09] Speaker B: And they terrify.
[01:17:11] Speaker A: I love it. They're leotards are like, they're like sprinkle.
They look like they have sprinkles on them like jimmies. It look like a jelly duck donut.
[01:17:24] Speaker B: Yes. If that jelly donut was just oozing. Oozing with human growth hormone.
At one point, Scooter tilt the world sidewalk slams rock or rock and almost drops. Fact that he doesn't is just like what the. What the. Like are, are you, are you putting steroids in your fingertips? Like, like the grip strength to not drop him on that.
[01:17:48] Speaker A: Unbelievable.
[01:17:50] Speaker B: Oh yeah, really weird.
At one point, Bischoff on, on commentary, he tries to set up Mongo to talk some about Ric Flair because they're like having a feud and Mango was like not ready for it and his soul just leaves his body. He's I. That guy.
He's got nothing to say.
Imagines just barely tell us to stay tuned for things happening between him and Flair. And I was like, oh my God, that was just dead air and sputtering for like 15 seconds. Holy, dude. We're live, pal. Yeah. So meanwhile, Enemy gets some solid double team, spots in on the brother Steiner. Rocco goes for his famous synton where he like throws himself like a cannonball. But he misses real hard. Uh, suddenly they have let the puppy boys out. Yeah, Rick comes out, throws them all around, blah, blah, blah. A lot of the, the enemies try to get more momentum, but this is a blah, blah, blah match for in.
[01:18:56] Speaker A: My opinion, visual visually impressive. Like they're, they're, you know, just like that much meat moving around on your screen. Live on national television. Very impressive. Difficult to talk about.
[01:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah, they don't got a lot to say, what do you say about that? You know? Yeah. Like Rocco crashes into his partner on the outside and gets sent back in. Scooter does a frankensteiner for three and that is in fact the Pep Boys power pin of the week.
Was him knitting the f Frankensteiner. And I wrote down.
[01:19:32] Speaker A: Pep Boys was the sponsor.
[01:19:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I wrote down. I think it's time for a new segment though. Prep Boys power bottom pin of the week. Stay tuned for that. Hey, hey. Write that down. All right, we've come back in the commentary boys speculate on who is funding Diamond Dallas pages shenanigans. And I'm here for more DDP talk because I. I love this guy. He's not actually on this. He's. I love him and I miss him in his chomping of cigars. I hope he is back soon. Meanwhile, uh, redacted, uh, because, uh, Chris been noir supposed to say his name is going to eat Regal's squire Dave Taylor for lunch.
That's what we're. We're getting to here.
So. Yeah, I should have been like, hey, by the way, you're gonna see a family. And I forgot to warn you for that. It's.
[01:20:31] Speaker A: It's a lot. He's a weird looking dude.
[01:20:34] Speaker B: He's a weird little Canadian guy. Yeah, yeah.
[01:20:38] Speaker A: Canadians aren't supposed to be family annihilators. They're supposed. I thought the thing was they were polite.
[01:20:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:43] Speaker A: It's very impolite to annihilate your family.
[01:20:46] Speaker B: You're not supposed to do that, buddy guy. No, no. So no can Canadian monster Chris P. Is what, what I get to deal with this a lot on the show. It's not great, but like, it also sucks. He's very good at. And I hate. Like, it's one of those things where, like, I'm not handing it to him. I'm just telling you what I see with my own eyes. Objectively.
[01:21:08] Speaker A: He' he just hit a move where he gets thrown into the ropes, catches them and like, looks like he's gonna bounce out. Takes it back. Yeah, like, like does the pause. It's like it's a mix up. It's. It's fighting game. It was bad.
[01:21:25] Speaker B: He and he. It makes. This is another one. Anytime he's in there, it really feels like a fight. Again, it's fighting game. Exactly like you said. Like, it's. It really feels like a fight because he brings that intensity. And this is Dave Taylor, who I'm not really that familiar with. I think he's more of a veteran. I think he's huge. I've never seen him outside of his frilly robe before this. And he's, like, tall as. He's like, huge. I was like, all right. And I was like, okay, this match pretty hard.
[01:21:54] Speaker A: Like, unfortunately, is crazy. Like, they're going so fast.
[01:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. The. The work rate is what they would call that in the. In. In parlance of. Of this thing they do. But unfortunately, there's, like, some problems that interrupted this amazing work rate that's kind of driving me nuts. And it. I found it funny because, like, everyone's trying to ignore it, except Bobby Heenan keeps responding. He keeps reacting to it. Everyone else ignores it. And I'm like, this is why Bobby is better than you.
[01:22:23] Speaker A: It's like, yeah, because, like, you're. You're live on television. You have to use what you've got. It's like. It's like the chick who came up with, let's go, Brandon.
[01:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. You gotta kind of roll with it. Yeah. Bobby is. And when it comes down to it, he is a broadcast journalist. Is this joke.
[01:22:41] Speaker A: He's referring to himself?
[01:22:43] Speaker B: He's the greatest heel of all time. I love him.
He's the bet. I think he might be the to ever do commentary. I don't know if he's the best manager because Paul Heymon exists. That. That's. That. That's a fight to the death in my brain. But he's the best to ever do. Specifically, like, holy crap, it's so good. And I feel bad because I was to take note of that because he's trying and you not, and you all suck.
Yeah. But there's a lot of cool stuff in this match. Things that I think stakes well at one point. Like, Dave Taylor's doing some, like, acrobatics and, like, some stuff for the crowd. And I realized that, like. Well, no, he's. There's a hard camera in wrestling. There's one camera that doesn't. And. And. And that's the hard camera. And they tell you always play to the hard camera because you're playing to the people.
[01:23:36] Speaker A: You always get that shot. Yeah.
[01:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So even if you're doing something that is for the crowd, like, when you do that, you do it for the crowd at the hard camera so that the people at home get it.
So, like, you see and. I don't know. Have you ever been to, like, a wrestling match live?
[01:23:54] Speaker A: I wish I. I should make it out.
[01:23:56] Speaker B: I. I have. I haven't been to a lot. I. I got to go to my first one last summer. In, like, my first one in, like, 20 something years.
And it was. It's. It's a very singular vibe. Like, there's nothing quite like it, but it's the way that it. The show it on tv, It's. It feels very different. And what happened here is he was doing this stuff, but the camera was on Chris Benoit. So, like, they had a moving camera on Chris Benoit selling on the outside of the ring, but you're seeing Dave Taylor sell to the crowd. This, like, taunt thing where he, like, does this little, like, you know, British. And. And it made me feel like I was in the crowd at the live event because you don't normally see normal. Like, I think it was a mistake. I think they were supposed to cut to the. The hard cam. That's why he was doing it at the hard cam. But they didn't, and in that moment, they accidentally made it realer.
And I was like, that's cool. Yeah. I was like, oh, I need to write that down because, like, just. Just from, like, Tony Khan. I know you're not listening to this, but if. If you. If you are, I'm do that kind of, like, I mean, like, it makes it, like, feel like you're really there instead of watching tv. And I was like, that was a up. Was really cool.
But, you know, other than that, this is just a decent match because it's a Chris Benoit match. He doesn't have bad matches. Like, so far. Passable ends with him doing this dragon suplex on Paul David Taylor, which is he. That's the other thing. Chris Benoit is short. Like, he's tiny.
[01:25:34] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a little short. Stacked.
[01:25:37] Speaker B: Okay, well, hi, folks. Technical difficulties that I'm sure will be edited, but now there's. Producer Mox is here.
[01:25:46] Speaker A: Meow.
[01:25:46] Speaker B: There's a haha meow. Yes. This is my baby. And she will.
[01:25:50] Speaker A: What a pretty cat.
[01:25:51] Speaker B: She will cut you.
She has bitten me on the pod.
She didn't, like, did not like the direction that we were going. Going.
So, yeah, I'm not sure how far back that that went, but to. I'll. I'll go. I'll. I'll say what we just said, just in case, for editing sake. I'll probably leave most of the sin, because it's funny to me.
Ben Wyatt does a dragon suplex on super tall Dave Taylor for three. There you go. That's the end of that match.
It was wild to me because he's a little guy, and Dave Taylor is very, very, very tall.
[01:26:28] Speaker A: The magic of momentum.
[01:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah, the magic of momentum. It's inertia, folks. So we go to commercial and as they tell us that Jean is about to confront Macho man, who isn't allowed in the building. That.
[01:26:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:26:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So Macho man is going. He's going through. He's going through what I. I feel like wrestling fans like to call the, like, the going through it arc. Every once in a while you, you, you, you decide that a wrestler is just really going through it.
But he's also doing. He kind of invented this. The unhinged Hoss. Like he is having the hardest time that he's losing his mind and he's just flailing out at everyone. Friends, enemies, anyone who gets in his way. He's. He's gonna him up. And it's because he's the most divorced man of all time.
And Liz took half his money and she is spend his mortal enemy. Ric Flair.
Yeah.
[01:27:30] Speaker A: Is his partner for the lottery match.
[01:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. The Lethal Lottery match. Yeah, exactly. And this is wrestling.
We're gonna. We're gonna set these stakes and then make it like this. And it's so great because the Lethal Lottery is a random drawing. Sure. Jan to her Bobby says. Bobby Heenan says he's gonna go take care of this. Don't you worry. So they like, they come back and Jean's trying to talk to. To, To Macho Man. Mango goes instead. He. He tells our dear Florida man Randall Sage to calm his tits, basically because, yeah, you're not coming in here. You're not coming in here. Forget about it. Forget about it. I'll take care of flare and like. Care to flare. Yes, Randy. Then Randy gives us, like we talked about it earlier, that Macho man thing, especially when talking to Gan. And this is grade A.
He's on it. These two are industry standard for this. You. You don't tell me where I'm going. You don't know where I've been. And I'm like, yeah, that didn't make any sense, dude. Yeah.
So good.
[01:28:53] Speaker A: I need, I need like a nom de guerre, you know what I mean? I need like more name so that I can wear it both on my bandana and on a back patch on my.
On my battle vest.
[01:29:08] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:29:09] Speaker A: I need something.
[01:29:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Sometimes on a back belt, you know, that they use for. For weightlifting. Yeah, you got them all over here that he just. Macho show. We can get. We can get. We need to get. Audrey, we need to get you a monster truck. He had a monster truck. The radio big monster truck. That's what we need. To do.
[01:29:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we'll. We'll run over your shitty boyfriend with it.
[01:29:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
You hit the. Hit the horn and just boom.
Oh, yeah, dump him and we'll take care of the rest.
Macha says he saw a woman psychiatrist. Yeah, she says I'm OCD One cool dude.
Yeah, dude. All right, man. Sure, buddy. That's. That's how that goes.
Jean goes back to the boys and Macho again tries to get in. It's just. This is what they're doing.
[01:30:10] Speaker A: There's a dude in the back who looked. I thought was Donald Trump for a second. Second.
[01:30:14] Speaker B: No, that would have been the guy.
[01:30:16] Speaker A: With the blue shirt. The.
[01:30:18] Speaker B: Oh, one of the. One of the suit guys.
[01:30:20] Speaker A: One of the goons.
[01:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah, one of the goons. I don't know who that was.
[01:30:24] Speaker A: He's got the waddle like Donald.
[01:30:26] Speaker B: Oh, that might have been. Oh, that might have been J.J. dylan. I think that was J.J. dylan. He's a old, old from wrestling territories. All these guys. Like, that's the thing. It's. We talked about how it's like the ongoing canon storyline that rolls in real time. Well, so do the people. There's a deep, A deep state. There's a deep state to the industry of wrestling. And like, they all keep showing up and like JJ Dylan is in his deep state. Used to be a bigger deal, but we. Now he's like the head of security. We call him the head of security. And he's got the waddle. Yeah. You know, and like, he'll keep a job for a while because we take care of the guys, you know, so like, that's how it, it worked for like a long time. And I, I personally think that needs to die.
I've talked about on other podcasts like, you know what, what can make wrestling better? And I think it needs a devensification because Vince. The end of this journey of ours, the Monday night wars, has Vince winning and then there being a monopoly on. On the entire industry for 20 years. There was no other real competition outside of indies. There was no national, bigger company competition. It was just vintage and it was like, I'm sorry, capitalists. Like, when you do that, when you run that system and you win so hard, the product like, hurts because of that because you. It's supposed to be competition that drives it. There was no competition. And it became hegemonic and gross and. And it just became a factory for Vince to, To do horrible, monstrous, awful things.
And now that's why I love aew, because there's competition again. But like that's what made this so great, you know? And, and, and before we had that again, like it was awful.
Like it was awful for like 20 years.
[01:32:19] Speaker A: It sucked because yeah, if you have nobody, if you don't have to top anybody, you just have to go out and like just do the same show every week.
[01:32:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And then. And, and Vince's mentality was always. Well, the fans didn't really, really like this. Him. I won. Yeah. Like we literally. He would do specifically because he knew it would piss us off.
Yeah. No, that's what Vince. That's who Vince McMahon is. He's doing that with a multi like publicly traded company, like million billion dollar company.
And he's operating it with that kind of petty mentality that.
[01:32:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[01:32:57] Speaker B: He's been like elop. Basically like, like making decisions based on who pissed me off this week.
Yeah, that. That was the E. Buddies like that. So like thankfully before that we had wcw. So I think we need less of that and more of women crushing on women. Women. Yeah. And more women crushing on women. Exactly.
But no, we need the densification. We need things to be shaken up. Unless the hedge. Hegemony. Yeah, that's the word that he. That he built. And I like that. Now that being said to go back to 1996, what we shouldn't do is decide we're going to spend way too much money on CG 90s CGI for a mortal Kombat teaser trailer for a wrestler that is just going to be sub zero if he was white. That's what this is leading to.
I wish I were kidding. His name is Glacier and it's gonna take like three months of this, I think before he actually shows up.
But for the first like month and a half of it, it's just this one commercial over and over and over again. And it's driving me crazy. And I realized this week that the reason they're doing this is because they spent so much money on that cgi.
[01:34:17] Speaker A: You gotta run it.
[01:34:18] Speaker B: It was the only promo for the dude that they could afford to cut. Yeah. So they w.
And they're. They're going to try to really lean into. Because Mortal is 96. Mortal Kombat's big.
[01:34:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:34:31] Speaker B: He ends up getting like a. An arch nemesis named Mordos who's like a matched masked Lucha guy who is actually a closeted gay wrestler named Chris Canyon. Rest in peace.
Who. Who.
Yeah, yeah. Poor Canyon. Canyon had a rough time. Canyon tried to come out. It didn't work.
Yeah, yeah. But he was a really Good wrestler though. Especially when he had the mask on and he was Mordos because he could do like Lucha and like no one was doing like Mortos. But Mordos is supposed to be Shao Khan basically.
[01:35:06] Speaker A: Like right. Like, is he a minotaur? Like is he Motaro?
[01:35:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that would been cool. We have that now. That's on aew. That's the beast Mortos. He rules.
Yeah. When he cuts promos, it's just, you know, like I. I took interim early classes in high school to speak Mordos, but I don't remember a lot.
I think he says he's gonna kick your ass.
So yeah, that's modern wrestling. So like this is a. This kind of. Is alive and well. But they're trying to do it with Mortal Kombat. It's weird. We come bizarre.
[01:35:45] Speaker A: I didn't even grock what the was happening. Like I'm watching the portal.
[01:35:51] Speaker B: Portal. Cold. It's real cold. There's ices now wcw now I want a slushy real bad. Yeah, it's terrible. We come back from that weirdness to. I like to call him Papa Wyatt because he. He ended up having a. A child named Bray Wyatt. But VK Wall street micro Tunda. This is a guy who I think rules. He's been around for a while. And uh. When Vince we're talking about the Vincification, he. Back in the heyday, he.
He started doing the jobification of gimmicks. That's why you had like the gr. The Dumpster dude. And like. Yeah, you know, like all these guys have like jobs. You know, there's a dentist, you know, there's this. Yeah, this kind of. And when that happened, he gave this guy who was like a legit wrestler, like collegiate wrestler, kind of like the Steiners. He gave him the Irwin R. Scher gimmick because the IRS was offered auditing fence at the time and he was mad at the irs, so he gave him a IRS gimmick so he could have this guy who works for the irs who just wants all your taxes and is greedy and wants your money and is probably kind of a little anti Semitic and it's tropes and like just all this terrible, awful. Like. Like that's what Vince does. Like that's. That's what I mean. Like if someone pisses him off, he's gonna do a storyline about it on Life tv. And he like ruined the rest of this guy's career because it got over. Because. Because. Because he. Because Americans love slop. And like they like this IRS guy. Who's going to audit you? And he would come out and he'd go, oh, Columbus, Ohio, you're all a bunch of tax cheats. And like that.
[01:37:38] Speaker A: Weird.
[01:37:39] Speaker B: It's so weird. And like, he was this like, real serious guy. Now for the rest of his life, he's got to be. Have a movie, funny gimmick. So he ends up leaving and going to wcw and they're like, all right, well, we're gonna stick it to Vince. We're gonna make you VK Wall street because Vince's Vincent Kennedy McMahon. So VK.
Yeah. So we're gonna poke fun at rich Connecticut boy over here in the. The New York territory. Because that's the other thing. It's regional too. WWF is New York. WCW is the South. That's Georgia. So like, Vince has contempt for the. The hicks, and the hicks have contempt for the Yankee. That's a big part of this too, that I don't think we talk about a whole lot. But it's weird. So, yeah, that. That's to explain what the a VK Wall street is.
[01:38:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I just say, yeah, he's a kind of stately looking gentleman, kind of, you know.
[01:38:33] Speaker B: Yeah, he's the Greed is a real.
[01:38:35] Speaker A: Haircut of a dude.
[01:38:36] Speaker B: Yeah, a real haircut of a guy. He's got a hell that. That jib. It's cut. Yeah, yeah. Like, that's a thing. So Flare. Flare makes his way out with his girls because Flare is collecting them like Pokemon. I say it every week, but that's his gimmick. That's. That's the name of this arc for me. I'm sorry, folks. It's Flare's Woman Pokemon collector arc. Like, that's what he does. He's collecting other people's wives. He has woman.
[01:39:03] Speaker A: It's only natural.
[01:39:04] Speaker B: It's only natural. As though.
Yeah, as you will.
[01:39:09] Speaker A: I do that at work. Like, this is the thing. Like, wrestling has always. It's always been around. It's always been in the air. Like, there's always kids at school that were into it. And like, I learned about a dude who just goes. And that's like his thing.
And so I'll be at work and I'll like, I'll be in the back room and I'll hear somebody move towards the front.
[01:39:30] Speaker B: I'll go, oh, my God, you cut out so hard on that one. Holy.
[01:39:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Noise canceling. Like, nah, you wound.
[01:39:37] Speaker B: So I'm gonna have so much fun editing that. I can't wait. I cannot wait to see that waveform. Holy.
[01:39:44] Speaker A: You Got the raw audio on it too. I got the backup.
Get that, come get that popping through bass boost and put the octagon on that.
[01:39:54] Speaker B: Octaven. Yeah. That's amazing. No. Holy no. And that's just it. That's what's a Ric Flair. He's a Woo. He's Style and Broke Island. He's just. He, he's the worst guy is what he is. He's the worst guy.
If masculine, he is toxic masculinity with cocaine added.
So like there you go. And, and we can't help but love him a little bit. Even though he really in real life, terrible human. Him in real life I love sucks too. He's.
Well, let's put it this way. Ric Flair isn't playing a character. Ric Flair like what you see on tv. That's that guy.
[01:40:33] Speaker A: An unethical non monogamist.
[01:40:36] Speaker B: Yes. A real big old piece of who is absolutely has allegations as like to say so like him to hell. Love it. In the context of being a piece of heel. Like it's excellent and like that's God, Audrey. This is wrestling. This is what it means to be a wrestling fan. This is to bring back the point I started a long time ago that I lost track on. The WS fan. They talk about how wrestling, being a wrestling fan is about shame and in pain. Like because like your, your heroes are gonna hurt you. Like, like, like you can't love anyone because they're going to cause you pain.
Like, look at Gold Dust. We love Gold Dust. Right.
This amazing almost queer representation by accident. He's going to do blackface in about a year from now. No. Yep. Don't have heroes.
[01:41:32] Speaker A: Do Gold Face.
[01:41:34] Speaker B: Do gold. Keep doing Gold Face. Yeah. No, he comes out like Dennis Robin. Well, he was, he, he, he, he, he gets into an arc that he calls himself the Artist Formerly Known as Gold Dust and he gets real freaky with it and he comes out as a different person. He is a, a gold dustified version of, of a celebrity basically. So one time he's Marilyn Manson dust. Just you know, and like, and like all that kind of. And he does, he comes out as different wrestlers to. With him and, and like that. Well, one time he came out as Dennis Robin and no one in the back said, hey, maybe don't do that because they're all, because they're all going, yeah, we're racist as. This is awesome.
[01:42:15] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[01:42:17] Speaker B: Yeah. No, they were into it. So yeah. That being a wrestling fan is, is pain and shame because is Ric Flair really good at his job? Yes. Is he a terrible person?
[01:42:25] Speaker A: Also, he just did some wacky. He gets thrown into the corner row ropes and, like, whips through the ropes and, like, swings himself around. Let's gymnast. That's crazy.
[01:42:36] Speaker B: I love that you bring that up because that is a Ric Flair signature move. Like, that's like people. Other people do that cell now that he's the first one to really get that over. And he does it every match. Because we talked about. We talked about move sets, right? Yeah. Rick Flair's moveset is because he's a heavy heel. It's all of his moves are him taking other people's moves.
[01:43:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:43:02] Speaker B: His signature is getting his ass kicked in. In very special ways. Like, he'll try. He has a thing. He'll go to the top rope to try to splash it, but he always gets caught and gets thrown off the top. And he does it every match. I think I've seen him actually hit that move one time and he probably, like, he hit it once in the 70s and that was all it took because now he can go for it every time. But the people love when the heel eats, so he eats instead. Yeah. So, like, that's one of his moves, is when he goes inside out. Like, Ric Flair patented that because he's. His whole gimmick is getting his ass kicked really well, because he's an. And then you meet him and it turns out he's an ass.
Yeah. So all that to say. Bummer, right? Yeah. All that to say flare makes his way out. Out with the girls. Mago begins to go off because he's currently the last, like four weeks in a row. Flare will come out and then immediately go to. Over to the front row and flirt with wife. He has been cuck holding for like a month now. It's a theme in wrestling. This has like, been the month of cuckoldry in wrestling.
So, like, it's a. Both companies are doing. Doing it. And like, Mango is just like, trying to act so. Oh, I'm so mad. And it's like, no, dude, you are a Ric Flair fanboy. You cannot wait for him to drill. Your life is what's going on here.
Get in the chair, Mango. You can bring Pepe. Like, like, it's fine. Just whatever.
[01:44:41] Speaker A: Whatever makes dog while your wife.
[01:44:46] Speaker B: Exactly. So they didn't do that this time. Now Mago goes off on him inst. And I miss most of it because, like, whatever the. The booth is trying to have fun here. I did say at one point, flare and mongo or as flare and. And Wall street. Get into it. Mango says, pepe, do you have those brass knuckles? I'm about to give them the Became Wall Street. And I. I took note of that because immediately in my brain, I am imagining what you got. Mama's brain. Brass knocks. Oh, so you got him. You gotta go get in there. And I was like, this is. Go get. Go get in there. I just imagine Pepe carrying them like little doggo, just carrying the brass knucks down to the ring. And like, I need this. Someone who is better at making visual art. Do this for me.
For. I was gonna say, you'll get free merch if you do that.
But all that to say, this match kind of low key, you know, because these are. These are two guys who are very, very good at what they do.
Also, you got just whipping around, just whipping around. And. And woman is out there just screeching like she. I for always forget that she does that. And then it takes me by surprise. What the is that? No. Oh, yeah.
That's woman losing her mind.
That's Kevin Sullivan, the taskmaster's current wife. And the other one is, in fact, Randy Savage's ex wife, Ms. Elizabeth, hence him freaking out.
Yeah, Ms. Elizabeth. Yeah, yeah, exactly that. Of Ms. Elizabeth fame. Yeah, Ms. Elizabeth of Ms. Elizabeth fame. And not to bring it down, but woman is in fact.
Oh, God, I gotta say it. I'm sorry. I'm sure longtime listeners are like, get ready, folks. She's about to tell the guest the thing. Thing.
So woman, the lady who came out with Ric Flair and screeching. That is Nancy Sullivan, who ends up becoming Nancy Benoit and is, in fact, the family that is annihilated.
Yeah. So, like, again, shame and pain.
Yeah, it's dark. This is a dark. This is how they meet.
Yeah, we're. Yeah, we are watching how they. It's even funnier because she's married to the guy who's the booker right now, and he. He books a story where she leaves him for Chris Benoit, and then it happens.
[01:47:18] Speaker A: And then she did that.
[01:47:19] Speaker B: Yeah, he worked himself into a shoot, as they would say. He.
[01:47:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, well.
[01:47:25] Speaker B: And it doesn't hurt that Kevin Sullivan is a piece of. Also an abusive piece of.
Yeah. So you can't win.
[01:47:33] Speaker A: There's no winning.
[01:47:34] Speaker B: No winning with these people, which means I could do this show forever.
Because, like, I'm telling you all this, and all this is just the scratching the surface. All these people have stories that will knock your brain out.
So, yeah, that. That's what's going on here at one Point flare takes a powder and we see that this is the era where the Four Horsemen, his like his group of bros, his posse, they have a VIP section set up where they can just hang out at the side and like eat lobster. And so you get to see that. And I'm like oh, I love this like, like again like Ric Flair. But I love this era. They're just like, yeah, like we're gonna live live large style and profile. Rick takes a really weird drop to a hole that look kind of painful as we go to commercial and we get a big old from Heenan. And I'm, I gotta mention every single time he does it because it warms my cockles of my heart.
And then we come back and a real 1996. 1996. Oh my God. That was a Freudian slip. Because of what I'm about to say next. A 1996 incel looking dude holds up a sign saying real men like it Raw. Now I was not going to give him attention because that's the last thing you want to give a 1996 incel is attention. Sure, yeah. But is technically a shot across the bow at Raw and this is a, a show about the war. So I had to take note of it. I was like the, the they are doing nature's early shit posting saying I am at the WCW show and I'm saying I like Raw.
Look at me, how edgy I am.
That was an Edge Lord. That was an early Edge Lord in the wild.
Oh God. But I felt like it was worth noting.
[01:49:25] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah. But needless to say, this man's not getting the man. Date of heaven Flare. Flare picks up the win with a figure 4 with some assistance from woman like you do. Then he immediately goes to the VIP section to talk a gene about it and I'm like this is great. Don't go in. He's not going to go in the back. He's not going to even catch his breath. Robe me. I've got to go eat and talk to mean Woo Jean. So the first thing he says is that this is. I need you to be prepared again that we're getting getting into. Oh God. The first thing he says is something about that time that Dolly Parton rode Space Mountain one.
[01:50:03] Speaker A: Yeah. What was that now?
[01:50:05] Speaker B: Oh God, Audrey, I'm so sorry. For those that don't know in, in in Ric Flair vocabulary that means that he like mean G says hey, what's up Ric Flair? And he goes Dolly Parton one time.
Just what he does.
[01:50:21] Speaker A: Did this happen?
[01:50:22] Speaker B: I doubt it. I, I, I don't, I do not think Dolly Parton, Rick Flair, like really? No.
[01:50:29] Speaker A: Probably she's too good. She's too good.
[01:50:31] Speaker B: No, she's too good for Do I now, now, now do I think Ric Flair propositioned Dolly Parton?
[01:50:39] Speaker A: Probably.
[01:50:40] Speaker B: I would bet the very little money I have on it. Yeah. At least once. So then he proceeds to make out with woman's arm which is a kind of weird. Uh, then he is like, I don't know. I, I find things sexy. I don't find that sexy. He says, I'm not dead. Woo. And then he does football innuendo to dunk on Mongo because Mongo was a football player. You see, Mongo is not a wrestler. Mongo is, Mongo is only here because Ric Flair loves football. And he's like I want a Chicago Bear on commentary. And Ted Turner is like I like it. Yeah, let's go. So like that's why Mongo's here. Even though he can't. He's not a good comedy commentator. I've learned to love him because he's an agent of chaos. He just keeps saying some that's like oh my God, that's gold.
So like I can't, we can't help but stand. But he's not good at this. But Rick calls himself Joe Namath and says he has stayed up all night after getting his nails manicured, throwing touchdown pass after touchdown pass.
[01:51:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:51:41] Speaker B: Then he puts his arms around the two other dudes wives and says and check out my wide receiver receivers, I'm nailing your wife.
Exactly. The nature boy folks. Mercifully we go to commercial from that because I'm just sitting here. Woo. Indeed. I'm just sitting here like Rick. I can't take these notes fast and Jesus Christ.
Oh my God. Like huh. Slow down.
We come back and pour. Poor Sting's hot dog man boyfriend, Lex Luger. He's trying to take the title off the Giant for the main event and this is not going to go well for him. No, no. So c. Because like Captain Insano is in full Giant mode. He, he's like not, he will not be with they he was, he's real young at this point. He's green. He's this very tall dude who has the same giantism as Andre did. But he got the surgery. So Once he reached 27, he stopped growing because he got the surgery. Andre, Andre never got the surgery. And that's why he's that why he died.
But still he's this big guy but he's Also like an athlete. So, like, imagine that dude who is that tall and that, like, huge would go off.
[01:52:56] Speaker A: What was it, 440?
[01:52:58] Speaker B: Yeah, like 440. And he's like seven foot, something like. Yeah, too big. He would go off the top rope early going on, and, like, it was horrifying. Now, it looked cool. And, yeah, it popped the crowd because. And he never actually hit it, but, like. Like, it never actually landed because it would probably kill someone. Yeah. Like, he. He's like, I can do this kind of stuff. And the crowd loved it. But these old guys are like, no, you're a giant. You can't stop doing that.
[01:53:24] Speaker A: Don't break my spine, man.
[01:53:27] Speaker B: Yeah, and also. But also, like, you're a giant. That's not your gimmick. Because they're like.
[01:53:31] Speaker A: Right.
[01:53:31] Speaker B: That's a trope. Is like, you. You go out there and you fee five fo fum a mother. Yeah.
[01:53:36] Speaker A: You lumber around, you slap people, you get hit and.
[01:53:40] Speaker B: No.
[01:53:40] Speaker A: Sell it. And then you throw people.
[01:53:42] Speaker B: Yep. And so what's this match against Lex Luger? It's that.
And it's wild because, like, he did that with Rick Flair the last couple weeks, and it was really great because Ric Flair, like, knew how he understood the assignment and he gave it his whole, as we like to say on this show.
So, like, he. It was really great. It was some. Like, at one point, he, like, he jumps to thumb him in the eye because he's like, I have to jump up to. To poke you in the eye, you're so tall. And it's like that. You didn't have to do that. But I like that you went there, Rick, you know, Lex does not do that much effort.
[01:54:18] Speaker A: No. He kind of throws himself at him.
[01:54:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, a bunch of times. And it's really. And he gets thrown around like a rag. Like. Like a rag doll. And like, I can't really say much good about this. He makes his Lex noises, you know, every time he get hits anything. And. But that's about it. And it just. It's more like a live kink show.
To make it more like that. You have Flair and the ladies having some snacks at the VIP table while Lex gets toyed with, like, Moxy playing with a mouse. Like, this is.
And I was just like, wait, I've been to this club. Once again, that's a reoccurring, reoccurring statement. I've been to this club. Not for long, though, because, like, Giant says no dinner for you guys. And this is where it gets fun. This is Something you see weekly on television now, Audrey, that you did not see weekly on TV back then. This is a big deal that they go and do this. So he drags Lex out to where the VIP table is, and he, like, pulls their dinner off. Woman starts shrieking to high heaven because, like, white woman tears, you know, like. Like that whole thing, like, this is my defense mechanism. Like. Like an octopus giving out ink. You know it. Yeah, that's it. So then Lex choke slams. Well, Lex gets choke slammed through the table. It's pretty cool. Yeah, like, wow, that looked hard.
[01:55:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that looked pretty hard.
[01:55:41] Speaker B: And this is.
Oh, go ahead.
[01:55:44] Speaker A: The thing that I. The thing that I noticed in that moment was how quiet everything got.
[01:55:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, well, they're treating it like. Like you would an actual legitimate sport. Cord injury, right?
[01:55:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Hush. Falls over the crowd, and you get the thumbs up and. Yeah, yeah.
[01:56:03] Speaker B: And like, all that to say is, that's what I think why people seem to really think that, like, wrestling fans really think this is real.
[01:56:11] Speaker A: They're just playing.
[01:56:12] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. We're in on the lie and we're playing along, you know, like, that's the difference where that crowd was playing along. Because that's what you would do if, like, a guy almost dies on the field or something. There's a hush up the crowd in the. In reality, too. It's great because, like, they don't do this yet. And because of that, that's not like, a gimmick at all. Table. Like, that's a hard table. Like, he. He got hurt. So this is wonderful. Lex's good, good golden retriever boyfriend, Sting, comes out to check on his man, and Jimmy Har tries to jump on Giants back. Heenan says Luger can team up with Billy Ray Cyrus to sing about his achy breaky back.
Brings whole new meaning to breaking bread. And, like, I like Bobby's eyes on one. They're playing, like, legit sport injury. It's really cool. And we go back to the booth, and the guys are trying to sell how hurt Lex is and how is this going to affect Sting. His mindset at slambery. And into this moment, all I could think about is how tan Bobby Heenan looks. And I remember they were in Florida last week, and I was like, hell, yeah. Good nitro. Every Bobby should get to tan more often. Like, good for him. That was fun. So, yeah, we did it. We got through nitro.
[01:57:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:57:22] Speaker B: So that leads to the final two questions of this podcast before we. We head out. Did you have a Favorite match of the week.
[01:57:28] Speaker A: Oh, it had to be gold dust for sake.
[01:57:31] Speaker B: It wasn't even a match. It was just a segment. But still, gold dust.
[01:57:35] Speaker A: That's all I needed.
[01:57:37] Speaker B: That's all I needed.
[01:57:38] Speaker A: Like, I. I'm not. I. I cannot emphasize this enough. It was genuinely erotic and I did not expect that.
[01:57:47] Speaker B: Fair enough. And for that, I'm going to agree with you. And. And when the next question is who won this week, which is supposed. Supposed to be, you know, between the two, Raw or Nitro, But I think who won this week is Audrey. Yeah, I did. Yeah.
[01:58:03] Speaker A: I got it. I got a John Boehner from this. And that means I won.
[01:58:10] Speaker B: Yes. And now we're all winning. Exquisite.
Yeah. That was awesome. Thank you so much for doing this. This was a worse.
[01:58:18] Speaker A: Happy to be here.
[01:58:19] Speaker B: Yeah. God, we ran. This might be end up being like the longest one we've ever had. We will see. I can't help it. It was fun time. I do this for fun, y'all. Listening is just a perk, so don't get mad at me for two hours of podcast.
But thank you for hanging out. Do you have anything you want tell the people about things you do and where to find it and all that stuff?
[01:58:40] Speaker A: Couple few things I want to talk about. I'm not going to try to go too long, but I got a bunch of projects I'm working on right now. First up, I want to talk about Radio Free Tote Bag. It's a show about relationships. It's a heartfelt relationship advice podcast with just the dumbest jokes you've ever heard and two hotties hosting. So go check out Radio Free Tote Bag at rftb me or anywhere you find your podcast. Secondly, I have another podcast called Data Transfer that I do with my beloved partner, Corla. It's a trans feminine reading of the Digimon Adventures animated series, and we have a blast there. And for the wrestling fans out there, I want to make sure everyone is aware. Aware of Leong Leon, the professional wrestling podcast hosted by Katie Rose Leon and. And Lawson Leong.
If you didn't know that one, go check that out because they're some of my favorite people. They're great, great folks.
[01:59:35] Speaker B: Absolutely. Gonna go check that out. Thank you for letting us know about that. Yeah, of course. Excellent. Well, everyone go check all that out. Go check all the other out. Check everything out that Audrey just said because. Holy.
And I need to check out because this went long.
[01:59:51] Speaker A: What happened?
[01:59:52] Speaker B: I'm in 1996, but thank y'all for hanging out. Thank you guys for listening. We will see you next week for more Raw versus Nitro. On Monday night, Fake Fights. Okay.
[02:00:10] Speaker A: Ghost Coast Studios. Thanks for listening.