Biblically Accurate Tag Partner w/Liz Ransdell

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Content warning for the worst. I'm trying not to think about it. All right. And welcome back to Monday night Fake Fights where I, Garrick Taylor, she. They am doing a rewatch of the Monday night wars and making it your problem. This week's co host is it slash. [00:00:31] Speaker B: It's Piper. [00:00:32] Speaker A: It sledges. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Piper Willow back again for the empty time on this program. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Yes. With the sick new piece co host. [00:00:46] Speaker B: Co host tonight and soon to be somewhat main host in a couple days. [00:00:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, there you go. In a couple days. Piper is getting its own show on on the feed. The Wednesday night fake fight show where they. We will be watching aew, which we all do anyways and. Yeah, right. For the most part. And Piper and Erica and a mysterious third man who hasn't been announced yet. And me, if they ever take the. The tape off of my mouth to let me say things. We'll be. Yeah. No to. We'll be talking. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Sorry, this is. Sorry, this is an audio medium. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah. No, no. Yeah. [00:01:24] Speaker B: No. [00:01:28] Speaker A: All right, fine. But yes. And now that we got all that really long intro out of the way, Piper, this week's steamy victim is Liz. [00:01:39] Speaker C: Rensell, your favorite shark queen. [00:01:42] Speaker A: Shark queen. [00:01:44] Speaker C: Purveyor of smut and all around horn dog. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Yes. One of my favorites. One of the best in the game as far. As far as horny people go. Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker B: I'm learning so much about you. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker C: It happens quickly. It really does. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah. No, so I've gathered. Yeah. No, I've had. I might put you in my hall of fame of. Of Internet horny people. And I like that. Or Horny Jail hall of Horny Jail, if you will. Wherever everyone shall get bonked. [00:02:19] Speaker C: But yes, I run that joint. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Horny jail a block. [00:02:23] Speaker A: A block. Yeah. No, Liz got the keys. Liz, you are a returning guest, so I don't have to give you the. The new newbie question of your relationship to wrestling because we've been there before. [00:02:39] Speaker C: We have especially. And that's why you, you know, to give me the 90s goodness because that's. That's my jam. [00:02:45] Speaker A: That's your jam. We break. We bring you to the new stuff. You'll be all confused. [00:02:50] Speaker C: I really would be for a minute. I'd have to be like, oh, wait, wait, wait. [00:02:53] Speaker A: These are. These are new pretty looking people. Oh my gosh. [00:02:58] Speaker C: Not that I'd mind. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, the, the genders get even more. I mean we have. We have to. [00:03:06] Speaker B: What do you mean? Gold dust is still here. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Gold dust is still here. But now firmly a man and Then you have Takeshita, who is in perfect angelic being. That is transcended gender. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Who is a. Who is a firm man. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Firm man. Strong style man. But also the just the prettiest creature to ever exist. Let's be real. So. Yes, that. That. I'm so excited. This is fun already. Yay. Welcome back to 90s grabs, Piper. No more modern talk till your couple days from now. We shall never shall the two shall meet. But now that we're in the 90s, Liz, we put it on the guest. Do you want to talk about Nitro or RAW first? [00:03:52] Speaker C: Well, RAW open with Shawn Michaels. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. [00:03:56] Speaker C: Let's do RAW first. [00:03:58] Speaker A: All right. [00:04:01] Speaker C: Now that I don't love me some tag team, I just. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Yeah. No, no, no. [00:04:04] Speaker C: That was just. That was. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Yeah, you're. No, you're. You're. Honey, you wouldn't be the queen of horny jail if you didn't go for the boy, like, right away. Yeah, that. [00:04:17] Speaker C: That had to go right into my wheelhouse. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it's what he's there for. Like, truly and like this, we are. [00:04:24] Speaker B: All about living the gimmick. [00:04:28] Speaker A: It is proof of it. Even Vince, because he can't wait any longer to bury Marty Jannetti forever. They're no intro at all. They are starting with. With his personal. His personal boy toy, hbk. What he calls here the greatest sports entertainer in the world. That'd be. That killed me a little bit, huh? [00:04:50] Speaker B: I'm trying to think if he was ever worthy of that in his career. No, like, no, not. Has he had good matches? Yeah. The greatest sports entertainer in the world ever. No. No. [00:05:05] Speaker A: And this is coming from. [00:05:06] Speaker C: Not even in wrestling. Not even if you just, like. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:05:11] Speaker C: I'm starting to think of people and I'm like, they're not on tonight. I'm not. You know, there's. There's boxers who. There's. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Mike Tyson is more. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Honestly. [00:05:22] Speaker A: Oh, that's terrible. He'll be more entertaining than HBK with HBK on this show. Well, maybe not. I loved HBK and dx. We'll see. This HBK is starting to grind on me, but hopefully we're done with the cuckoldry angle. At least you. You missed it. The last few months have been the. The. The time of the Coles. Liz, you missed all the good stuff, right? Damn. But, hey, not all of them. Cornette is in. In Janetti's corner, so one of them is still here. He blocked me for asking him about that on Blue Sky. [00:06:00] Speaker B: Oh, wonderful. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I guess if Janetti isn't given the mark of the heel like before the sacrifice, then the sexy boy ritual, like isn't completely complete and Vince can't climax. So they're like, here, take Janetti or take Cornette so we know you're the bad guy. Really make it happen. But yeah. Oh. Never have I ever had the urge though these two get in the ring and like, Liz, these are former best friends and tag team champs. Right, Right. I've never harder had the urge to say, now kiss, win. These two standoff. [00:06:35] Speaker B: They were so close. Like they were. If anybody would have at this time, it would have been Sean. [00:06:40] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [00:06:42] Speaker C: Like, like, like, like I was here for it too. Like, I'm always here for it. They just never let it happen. I'm like, you know, that's a lot of. That's a lot of years of anticipation, guys. Like one of these times, look, you gotta follow. [00:06:52] Speaker B: This has happened organic. This has happened organically. [00:06:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:55] Speaker B: It's not my fault, you know what they're doing nowadays in wrestling. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:03] Speaker C: You know, I just. But, but yeah, I. Yeah, but yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker A: Especially these two because like anyone who knows about like the real story of these two. Oh God, I'm pre striking myself, Piper. These two have locked eyes in the deep throes of passion. More than once just. There's usually hopefully of age girl in between them at the time. Yeah. Because like they were rock stars so they had the groupie. Right. Yeah. They lived that life. And like there was. [00:07:35] Speaker B: You're not, you're not. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:38] Speaker C: And in 96, I'm pretty sure, like I was still young enough to. To not know any better than to want to be. [00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah. A part of the double three way. Yeah, exactly. [00:07:48] Speaker C: And it was. And it. [00:07:49] Speaker A: And that. [00:07:49] Speaker C: And that whole of legal age thing was pretty. That was a pretty thin line for me at that point too. So, like, I get it. Yeah, I do. [00:07:57] Speaker A: It's the 90s and it's one of many reasons why HBK and Genetic. Yeah, they were the Rock and Roll Express and they took that seriously. [00:08:07] Speaker B: The Rock. [00:08:08] Speaker A: The Rockers. Pardon me. Thank you. Thank you. Not the Rock and Roll Express. I just saw Cornett. I said I had to. I had to throw an express in there because you see him. It's only natural. But yeah, this match, predictably in my mind a banger. Because these guys. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:25] Speaker A: Oh, no. Just because of how we. I. I don't know why I didn't notice this when I took the Notes I wrote. These two just know each other so well inside and out. Great, great dance partners. [00:08:42] Speaker C: I mean, but it. [00:08:45] Speaker A: No, I feel. [00:08:46] Speaker C: I think. I think that that's something that, you know, it's always been. I probably brought it up last time where I was like, you know, they really exploited the tension. [00:08:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker C: You know, they really, really did, considering they're such weenies and they always back away at the end. Like, man, it was there. He should have just leaned in and gone all the way at least once, because I guarantee you, it would have worked. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's working now. [00:09:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, it worked on me. [00:09:19] Speaker B: It would have made headlines, but I don't know if it would have. [00:09:21] Speaker C: Well, and it wouldn't have broken anything either. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:24] Speaker B: And, like, I don't know if it would have made the worst. Like, would have made headlines. They didn't want. Because Sean's in play. They're like a year. Not even a year later. Like. [00:09:32] Speaker A: And so, like, Sean's always played fast and loose with the bisexual thing, and him and Triple H are gonna lean even harder coming up. So it makes sense that at this point, these two are. At one point, what I put here, rolling around with Gen Eddie's head between his legs with his ass in the air. Yeah. Yeah. Like a biblically accurate tag partner is what I put. Folks, I got my. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Is there a name for that position or. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Or is that historical? Yeah, I don't know. Okay. [00:10:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Folks, I love you both. I'm warning you now. And sicko's at home. Mama's medicine came in today because it was payday. These. These notes are a little loopy, but. Piper, how did you enjoy the grabs? [00:10:24] Speaker B: I initially wrote down here that I think it was getting a fun concept, and I wasn't sure how the execution was gonna go. And I thought that match was great. Those guys can put on a hell of a show. Yeah, like, they. Yeah, they did it. And, like, it was. It was a great opener for a fairly ho hum rest of raw. [00:10:48] Speaker A: Yeah, benign is the word that comes to mind, is a benign raw. It was very, like, just. It didn't do. It didn't move any needles for me other than making me go in a couple spots. But this match was an unexpected. Barber is a really. How I call it. I checked the. At one point, I checked the time, and it was like 15 minutes in, I was like, holy, these. These kids have been going. [00:11:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like I said, I. When I was given the option. Yeah, yeah, it's a good place to Start. [00:11:17] Speaker A: It's just a couple guys showing off their endurance. You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's fine. I. Look, Liz literally reach out to me and says, when can I come thirst about wrestlers with you again? So I'm going to lean into it. Damn it. The crap. [00:11:35] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I. Oh, now I forgot. That's what I get for not grabbing my notes and bringing them with me. I think it's. At some point when he's with Hound Dog. Ah, I'll just watch it. If I see it again, I'll be like, oh, my God. That's the part. [00:11:52] Speaker A: All right. There you go. Oh, my God. That's fun. Two of us have notes and one of us is watching it. There we go. New experiment. And break. The crowd's invested, though, 15 minutes into this match, which was kind of. Yeah. [00:12:07] Speaker B: In all, it was honestly surprised Jose Lothario is still here. [00:12:14] Speaker A: He's probably like, he's contracted buddy easy. [00:12:18] Speaker B: I. I guess. But, like, they have the whole build up to. He was training with. With his original trainer for WrestleMania against Bret Hart for an hour. [00:12:29] Speaker A: And it's July 1st and three months. [00:12:32] Speaker B: Later, and Jose is still just like, just walking dumbly to the ring with Sean. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Vince is like. He's trying to give him. Yeah. Vince is trying to give him new nicknames. You like, that's how long he's been here. He's like. They call him like the Sock. Like a soccer or something like that. Yeah. And I was like, no. Yeah. [00:12:49] Speaker B: I was like, that's. [00:12:52] Speaker A: No, no, Liz, you should laugh at that. That is ridiculous. [00:12:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I mean, my thought of Sock is not. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not the. [00:13:04] Speaker C: More of a. More of a jerky name than a smackdown name. [00:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Last week it was full. There was socks full of quarters. So, like, they're. They're really. They're lining up again. [00:13:17] Speaker B: It was Nickels. [00:13:18] Speaker A: It was Nickels. [00:13:18] Speaker B: It was Nickels. [00:13:20] Speaker A: That's worse. [00:13:22] Speaker C: I was gonna say. Is that. Is that better? Having never. Having never been on the wrong end of a sock full of nickels, I. I honestly can't. [00:13:28] Speaker A: I mean, I'm gonna say a little. [00:13:30] Speaker B: Th. It's less surface area. [00:13:32] Speaker A: I'm gonna say both suck. I'm gonna say both are bad and shouldn't be done. Also, as someone who has worked in kink performing, both are not safe toys. Not safe. The. The surface area with which the force is hitting you is too tight of an area, and you can get plots that way. So be careful, kids. Yeah. Yeah. Huh? You gotta spread that Out. Otherwise you gotta sock it up. Sock. God damn it. Oh, that's an entirely different thing. [00:14:02] Speaker C: So you're saying stick to the paddle. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [00:14:05] Speaker C: For wrestling. For the rest, just go full body from the ropes. [00:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Stick to the chairs and the tables that you're used to. Don't you know? Don't go ch. Chasing socks full of nickels again, kids. Mama's medicines here. But, yeah, this mess. This match was fun. As far as the grabs, as far as the chuckle go. I. I hate these two on commentary. I miss Junior. It was mean. [00:14:31] Speaker B: What an awful week for them. [00:14:33] Speaker A: It was real bad. Like, Liz, I am. I'm sorry that you got such a horrifying raw. It was. These two were on some lyn. Vince let loose two nonsensical notwithstandings during one run on sentence, promoting a run of shows that was. I was tempted to mute the match. You. You're like, yeah, you guys did your best here. It was not good. And, like, this is just the opening match. So. [00:15:05] Speaker C: Hey, every time he. For the record, every time he says super sock, I have to prevent myself from saying the thing that comes to my brain because it has nothing to do with wrestling, but all I can think of is, you know, I'm gonna play around with this, maybe with some of my friends, and be like, so instead of calling me a cum dumpster, yeah, you want to call me the super sock. Must be your super special super sock. Like, it's just so bad. There's. I think it's an untapped. [00:15:40] Speaker B: It's an untapped market. [00:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:15:43] Speaker C: I'm sorry. Shawn Michaels. Shawn Michaels. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I love having you on the show. [00:15:51] Speaker B: Sean Michaels has turned out his fair share of socks, I'm sure. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Yes. No. Yes. Sean has had to be doing his own laundry time. Much shame. He. He ends up winning the match, though, because of course he does. [00:16:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:09] Speaker A: To the point. What is really even a little bit of a bear. They come back from commercial, and Janetti is hitting his finisher on Sean. But Sean, like, reverses the move that follows up, gets him with his pile driver and his finisher. And that's. [00:16:22] Speaker B: That's the ending pace of the match, like, was weird. It's like it's a taped show that, like, Vince is up calling for sweet chin music, like, eight different times. He's like, he's gonna hit. He's sweet check. And he's just like, Sean's doing something else. He's doing something else. And, like, it just felt clunky. And it's like, you can re. Record your vo. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say you can ADR that, but, you know, he thinks he's. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Yeah, he. [00:16:51] Speaker A: That's probably what it was, though, is the problem. That was the adr. He. That was him, I think, thinking he was building tension. It's my guy. [00:17:02] Speaker B: No, it just sucks. [00:17:05] Speaker C: I have my own. Obviously. Well, probably not. Not so unique problems with McMahon, but honestly, he. It's a good thing he hired some really great storytellers and some really great guys on the mic because he has never been like, how did this man end up being the boss of everything? Because he is not. He wasn't great in the ring. He wasn't great. Like, he wasn't. He wasn't. At no point did he get on that mic and be. And wow the crowd or. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:35] Speaker C: And then, like, they. It's like everyone suffered. Vince McMahon to get to everybody else forever. Like, that's always been the way it's been. [00:17:43] Speaker A: It still is in a lot of ways. [00:17:45] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. It's such a great. Like, he. It's. He just was. He was just the terrible boss from day one and it did. We just. Is that how we normalize it through our entertainment? Because, like, he's just not. He's that guy who's just underwhelming at the best of times and just an irritant most of the time. And then I found out that all those other things on top of that, and I was like, of course he is. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Like, yeah. You go back and look at everything he's been involved in and you're like, yeah, no, that. Okay. All of a sudden I saw that. [00:18:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:20] Speaker C: No surprises. [00:18:21] Speaker A: I was going to say, like, this. This. This whole next segment is. Is the official. There. It's been a while since I've done it, folks. There were signs. [00:18:34] Speaker B: This whole next bit that recap is. [00:18:39] Speaker A: It's this re. Yeah. The recap that they do of. Of something that happened on Superstars, which again, folks, Superstars was like. Wasn't Superstars like the Saturday morning show something? [00:18:52] Speaker B: It was some weekend like B show, if not she. If not C show. They didn't even have a B show. [00:19:00] Speaker A: Yeah. But they show us this heart to heart with Sonny and Phineas. And this is. [00:19:05] Speaker C: Just tell me, baby. Just say those three little words. [00:19:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Kim Ross is standing there holding the mic. Just. He's just trying to hold the mic. He's like, I'm so much better than this. [00:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I used to book. Damn it. [00:19:21] Speaker C: It's actually. The whole scene is weirder. For having someone standing between them with the microphone. It's just so odd. I'm like, that was a choice. [00:19:29] Speaker A: The whole thing, I mean. And I feel like that's the camp of wrestling. That saves us from just being what the awfulness that it otherwise is is like the ridiculousness of this guy with the mic going back and forth between these two. When, like, what's actually happening here is she proceeds to. Well, first of all. Yeah. She's trying to, like, trick him into saying I love you, while Jerry and Vince laugh at him, which this is. [00:19:56] Speaker C: All right. Right. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Tells him to pucker up and hits him instead. [00:20:00] Speaker C: And then smacks him. [00:20:01] Speaker A: Yeah, awfully. Yeah. [00:20:03] Speaker B: An awful slap. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Real bad. Not a good work one either. Come on. Come on, you know, say, tammy, you're better than this. She might not have been, but she then proceeds to read a comment from R slash incel that it's like a girl totally said this to anon once in real life. For serious. Really, women are really this terrible, and then they trick you and break your heart for funsies. And I'm just like. At this point, I'm like, like, like starting to type. There were. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Yeah, there were. [00:20:39] Speaker A: All right, hold on. We'll wait, Wait. Okay. Don't get ahead of yourself, Garrick. And then the two rural coded take teams fought about the evil lady. [00:20:49] Speaker C: Yep. [00:20:49] Speaker A: And then. Yeah. Pipe piper. I just. Yeah. The slots. [00:20:56] Speaker B: The slot bucket. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yes. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Don't you love it? [00:20:58] Speaker A: It's the sloppy. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Don't you love it? Getting used week by week on all sorts of. Occasionally men and usually women. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Usually women, yeah. In a degrading sort of manner. And. And this, at this point, he likes to. He, like, makes it really clear. This is where I was just like. Like, I might have to put a harder content warning on this episode for several reasons. Also, the next match. Heads up, folks. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Oh, God. [00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:28] Speaker C: I'm not helping with that, am I? [00:21:30] Speaker A: So something. Well, this. That's entirely something else. Yeah. You know, you're. Honey, you're perfect. You're doing everything right. It's the men who are terrible because Vince proceeds to get real gross because he makes a point of saying that just when she thinks she's safe and in control. Yeah. Here it comes. Yeah. And she finally gets slopped. And it's just like, I. Okay, I see there's. I didn't even pick up on signs. [00:21:58] Speaker B: That context of it, but yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah, that is absolutely said. [00:22:03] Speaker A: And it's one of those. [00:22:05] Speaker B: On display there. [00:22:06] Speaker A: It's one of those things where I'M hoping that with a few more years of therapy, I won't just can't help but pick up on that. But. But, like, I picked up on that and that's like, oh, so, like, yeah, there were signs. All. This is gross. I. The slot bucket needs to be banned in every state federally. We should. We. We need to. To just ban the slot bucket until we can figure out this whole men thing. [00:22:39] Speaker B: I've got bad news about the future of wrestling. [00:22:44] Speaker C: Oh, goodness. [00:22:45] Speaker B: Still happens. And men are still here. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Yeah, men are still here. Some of the same. [00:22:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's. That's true. [00:22:55] Speaker A: So, yes. Liz, I am so sorry. Like I said, you picked a hell of a. We did pick. I. I dragged you into a hell of a raw. [00:23:04] Speaker C: And it's okay because I got to see Shawn Michaels and I got to see mankind. [00:23:08] Speaker A: There you go. Yeah, Mankind. This is true. Mankind is here, and he's fighting Duke Drossi. Content warning for the worst. I will not go into detail, but it is the position of this since the last time Drossi was on here. The last time Drossi was on here, I made a point to say, you know what? Duke Drossi was a good hand. Like, dude, this was a solid match. He worked really well against, like, Triple Paul, which was like, you know, the. Oh, you're only gonna get so good at 96. Or ever, for that matter. But it was a good match. I was like, yeah, like. And then, like, I looked on the Internet and I was like, duke Drossi allegations. Duke Drossi guilty. And I'm like, nothing. All right, cool. I don't have to, like, Like, I don't feel bad about the fact that Drossi's a good hand. And then as she dramatically sips her. Her fizzy water. About three days after that episode came out, friend of the pod and co worker Kennedy sent me a article that Duke the Drossi dumpster Drossi got popped for child. No. [00:24:18] Speaker C: Oh, why did it have to be the worst one? Like, I know that, but no, that's the worst. That is the worst. [00:24:26] Speaker A: That's why I was like, when I say the worst, I mean the. That's my worst. So no details. I'm not going to do it. But I would share the article. I was like, God, we can't have nice thing. [00:24:41] Speaker C: No, no, gross. [00:24:42] Speaker A: So everyone enjoy the. This hopefully the last Dude Drossi match that we'll have to deal with. So, yeah, that was a thing that, like, I. It brings me no joy. But that happened and I felt like I have to let the sickos know we lost another one, that we simply can't have nice things. And there really are just seemingly two guys from this whole era don't suck, and he's wrestling one of them. Mick Foley. [00:25:11] Speaker C: I was gonna say, I've seen what McFoley's been through. I've seen what he's done. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:16] Speaker C: Pretty sure it's all out in the open. [00:25:17] Speaker A: Yeah, not. Me, too. No, Mick Foley is. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Okay. Nothing that I've seen. [00:25:22] Speaker A: No, him and. Him and Dustin are. They're the ones that we. [00:25:25] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Plaque. The placard on the wall of the headquarters. [00:25:28] Speaker B: So the worst that I have. The worst that I have seen from Mick Foley is him, I think, pun intended, wrestling with his relationship with Vince McMahon after everything. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And we've discussed that on the show before, and I think a lot of people have kind of come to the same conclusion that, like, there's contract reasons why he can always say, yeah, yeah. [00:25:53] Speaker C: I. I don't. If I don't see you openly defending and there's reasons why you could suffer for. For speaking out, I'm not gonna. I'm not kidding. I'll speak for both of us, I'm happy to say. [00:26:05] Speaker B: All the. [00:26:05] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. That's kind of how I took it as. That's kind of how I. We was like, that's all right. I'll. I. I'll start a whole podcast about how gross Vince McMahon, and I'll make my suffer through it. Yeah, that's why you're a steamy victim, Liz. Thank you. [00:26:20] Speaker C: That's okay. I'm. I'm here for any, Any, any slop on McMahon. [00:26:25] Speaker A: There you go. Well, we will continue to slop. [00:26:27] Speaker C: I would take the bucket over his head. That's fine. [00:26:29] Speaker A: There you go. [00:26:30] Speaker B: Did he ever take the bucket? [00:26:31] Speaker A: I. [00:26:32] Speaker B: God, I hope he deserves to take the bucket. [00:26:34] Speaker A: I'm gonna look into that, and if not, I'm gonna make sure that, like, if he does, I'm gonna make sure we get it on the pod damage. [00:26:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I was gonna say I don't remember, but I know something that's been done to him. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Yes, he has. [00:26:47] Speaker C: He has eaten it a few times. I just don't know exactly how. [00:26:50] Speaker A: Oh, he's. No, he's. [00:26:51] Speaker C: I don't want to take this away from Gold. [00:26:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna say, no, he. Oh, he is definitely taking some beatings. No, that. That man has gotten concussed in the ring, and, hey, we got that to look forward to. But this match, this Match was one of those things where it's like, I. I will not be talking about how good a hand he is. But Mix gets a solid match out of literal monster Duke the Dumpster Drossi. And I can hardly tell because Jake the Snake is a guest on commentary and is getting just destroyed by Lawler this whole time. This is very gross. Again, I don't. I don't mean for this show to be about how all of this is gross, but Raw just keeps doing it. It's. [00:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it is almost. Almost impressive consistently. I don't even know the words to describe it. [00:27:46] Speaker A: Like, rancid. I've been using rancid a lot. [00:27:54] Speaker C: But consistency is something they like. They. At no point do they question these decisions. They're like, nope, this is what we're doing. Like, this is the road. [00:28:02] Speaker B: See the road? Yeah. [00:28:04] Speaker C: Okay. So many ways you could, like, you could turn or not. You could just keep going. And they do. They are just, like, almost myopic. [00:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:14] Speaker C: Without focus. They are on. We're gonna do this. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Or could it just. [00:28:18] Speaker C: This is our thing. [00:28:19] Speaker B: When you have a megalomaniacal sex pest in charge of everything, there's only one path. [00:28:24] Speaker A: That's good, pal. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, if. If he's gonna make it even worse if he can. And Jake Roberts is on Commentary. Like, he said. For the thing I picked up, it's because he's fighting mankind at the next pay per view. But he's also. His whole shtick right now is the very real story of the fact that he is a recovering alcoholic and Lawler's just calling him a drunk this whole time. And, like, in, like, astounding. I've lost track of how many different ways he called him a drunk. Like, literally lost track of count. I would. I again, was almost impressed. [00:29:01] Speaker B: After about three. After about three, I realized, okay, this is the whole segment. There's no reason to keep, like, writing down how bad these one liners are. And, like, I just wrote down, like, jesus King. What a dick. Like, he's like, I know that's the angle. And boy, I sure hope Jake's okay with it. But, like, even then, what, like, an awful way to portray recovery on national television. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:30] Speaker C: What about when you were going up against Jake? Was he sober? [00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, they really? And. And. And I do like how Jake was like, well, we could talk about your past. And he's like, please don't because of the courts. You know, it's like, yeah, let's do that. [00:29:46] Speaker B: Very real documentation that exists for what I did. [00:29:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Woo. Again, don't look it up if you don't want to see the worst. So like, yeah, they're all gross. Jake comes by his honestly and has since like fixed his. That being said is. For a while there, I was sitting here going like, is this. I ha. I. You don't have to give it to him. But by the end of this, it becomes like apparent to me that this was a work. But for a while there, I, I wasn't a hundred. Like, they got me. I was. I'm sitting here going like. [00:30:22] Speaker B: It was uncomfortable. [00:30:22] Speaker A: It was uncomfortable. Like it like. Did Jake really sign up for this? Is what I'm wondering that level. Yeah, just abuse. Now, that being said, I didn't write down which one did it. I think it might have been when Tiny Tim started catching strays, which was very weird. [00:30:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:46] Speaker A: But at one point, like, you hear Jake kind of pop a little like. And I was like, oh, that's the moment. I was like, okay, it's a work. Like, like maybe he didn't know it was gonna. [00:30:59] Speaker B: He was, he was back there writing the one liners himself. [00:31:02] Speaker A: That's. That's the moment where I heard him choking. I was like, wait, Jay came up with half of this and all of a sudden I'm like, okay, now this is brilliant. I, I went from this is gross to. Which it still kind of was it. Isn't that the magic of kayfabe? The moment you realize they're both in on it, it's like, oh, killing it. So it's you. [00:31:25] Speaker B: It's still gross. But I see what you did there. [00:31:28] Speaker C: I mean, there are times when I wonder, you know, at any time these things are going on, there's times when I wonder, is it just because they're gonna see how, how much you can take? [00:31:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:38] Speaker C: Or was it a hate. Here's what we're hitting it with tonight. [00:31:42] Speaker A: You know, like, and honestly, Liz, that's that blurry line. Flip a coin. Like, like, I, Yeah, even, even I say, like, oh, they're in on it again. I say, I say that saying not to say that. I don't know if he was in on it. Going that hard. I could absolutely see, see there being a, like a consent to one thing and then going past it, you know. [00:32:06] Speaker C: Because it's, it's literally a hot bucket of toxic masculinity. There is going to be some, you know, in the ring and out, if you will. Right. [00:32:16] Speaker A: It's the slop again. [00:32:18] Speaker C: So at some point, you know that there's A I know this is going to happen, but he's going to try to make me squirm and I've got to. And I've got to a not squirm and see if I can also make him squirm. And I'm like, it's not that I'm not here for it, I'm just here for it differently than I often get it in wrestling, you know? Yeah. There's ways to do it where it's not like just gross. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:42] Speaker C: As a, as someone who's an observer, like I want to see if it built real tension as opposed to. Oh, just want to watch the fight, guys. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Because like I don't even remember much about this fight because I was so. [00:32:55] Speaker B: Could not remember there was. [00:32:56] Speaker C: Because it was just non stop. [00:32:58] Speaker B: I watched it with my wife and we're sitting there and we finishing up and I'm like, God damn. That was a raw. They continue their streak. And I was like, I looked at her, I was like, was that two matches in 45 minutes? And like I had to sit there for probably a solid minute before I was like, oh no. Mankind had a match. Yeah, that was in there. But it was so over shadowed by the, the commentary. [00:33:23] Speaker C: Yeah. And being hard of hearing. Of course. I do everything with, with subtitles. So A, Their subtitles suck because they don't tell you who's speaking. And so it takes me like five minutes to catch up to everyone. Once I've got it, I've got it, you know, because then you can start remembering what people's cadences are and stuff. But it was just so constant that at times I had to stop and pull it back a little because I was like, something just happened. And they didn't even talk about it because he was too busy doing this other shtick he was doing anyway. Yeah, it's fine though. But I like Golda so maybe that's why I was irritated about it because I love watching Gold. Yeah. [00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, and he did great. Like the finish was great. Mankind gets caught in a bear hug and shoves his fingies down Duke's throat for the win. So that's always wonderful. Yeah. [00:34:10] Speaker B: I always forget how fascinating early Mankind, he's out there. Like, what a fascinating gimmick of like just like the, the music, the mannerisms are so out there because after the. [00:34:26] Speaker A: After the fact he's like staring at his finger like, wow, did you see what they did? Like, wow. [00:34:33] Speaker B: I like like the peaceful music going on. [00:34:35] Speaker A: Yeah. VITTORI AMOS PIANO and it's like I like kill the guy. It was really great. [00:34:42] Speaker B: So I do it again. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Which will happen soon here because sure enough, this was a work. Because Jerry slaps Jake and Jake mercifully chokes him. Very good stuff. But now that the match is over, Mankind could get involved in the real show, which is whatever was happening at commentary. And he, since he's the bad guy, he has to defend Jerry, which again, I'm sitting here going like, I. I've. I've read Mick Foley and that is not what a Mick Foley would do. This dastardly Mankind. [00:35:17] Speaker C: When I wear my glove, I'm going to start shoving my fingers in people's mouths. [00:35:20] Speaker A: There you go. [00:35:20] Speaker C: I'm just gonna do it. Be like what. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Have you ever heard the mandible check out? Yeah, I was gonna say I check. [00:35:28] Speaker B: This out and honestly it's gonna go over great. [00:35:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna say I. Liz, I have no problem. Where can we sign up? I would like to hear get more of your literature. I like your ideas. [00:35:41] Speaker B: I do believe. I hope you have two hands. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah. And switch in between because safety. You know. But yes. There you go. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Did have the sign of the week though in this segment. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:00] Speaker B: When. When they cut the commentary back behind them. It was just a Cactus Mikey W. Says hi. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Sign out in the uh, in the audience. Which pop me. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Yeah. My poor. Oh, that Mikey Whipwrack was Cactus Jack McFoley's tag team partner in ECW. So. [00:36:19] Speaker C: Right. [00:36:20] Speaker A: Reaching out through the ether to let you know I miss you, buddy. We love it folks. We love it. We move on to the Superstar line. Question of the week, which I had to write down. Why is the Ultimate Warrior in the WWF Doghouse? Call to find out. I was like, I have my thoughts. I could think of a few things. [00:36:46] Speaker B: If only there was a phone. There was a DVD that covered this self destruction of the Ultimate Warrior. That one could go and watch. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Or even sell. Hey, wait a minute. They will in fact have a documentary about how he's going to not Ultimate. I don't think we see Ultimate Warrior again. Like he. I think he's supposed to be back next week. I don't think he shows, Liz. So yeah, he's gone. He like. He like ghosts the company and gets fired. So. [00:37:18] Speaker B: For nearly 20 years. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Before. [00:37:21] Speaker B: After this. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah. He doesn't come back for know that. Yeah. This is like the. The end of Warrior for a while. [00:37:29] Speaker B: He. He no shows the spoilers. Shows up in another wrestling promotion, but you can't guess which one. [00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:39] Speaker B: WWF Slashy eventually releases a documentary slandering the man. [00:37:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:45] Speaker B: He runs around, changes his name to Warrior, has homophobic tirades, shows back up, surprises everybody, gives an impassioned speech, has a heart attack, uh, the day after Wrestlemania and dies. [00:37:58] Speaker A: And now. [00:37:58] Speaker B: And that's the story of the ultimate warrior. [00:38:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. [00:38:01] Speaker C: And I. I did Cat. And I caught the end of it, too, because I had. You know, because I'm in and out sometimes I'm busy having babies and because I had a lot of babies, I'm busy having babies and doing other things for. And then I'll come back and I'll be like, oh, hey, I missed this. I'll come back in. Or especially when it's the inductions and things. That always reminds me, oh, yeah, I've missed this. Then I come back. [00:38:22] Speaker B: So. [00:38:23] Speaker C: But, yeah, I caught the end of it. But I. Holy. [00:38:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:27] Speaker C: All right. [00:38:27] Speaker A: That's a weird life. A life warrior. [00:38:30] Speaker B: It's a fascinating story for all the wrong reasons. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Destrucity. Yeah. But finally. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Again, Almost mercifully. Yeah. For. For our main event in our last episode of Pride 2025, we finally get some gay gold. Dust is here. Yeah. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Yes. [00:38:51] Speaker C: Finally getting to Goldust. And. And the stupid talking continues, clearly, because I got my. To the point where I got my fights mixed up. Because he doesn't stop. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:01] Speaker C: Yeah, it doesn't stop all the way through this. [00:39:03] Speaker A: No, he keeps it up and it's. I have a little easier time focusing on the match because it's. It's Marrow versus Dust. And like, these two are great. And Sable and Go. And. And Marlena. So, like, these are both. These dudes with their actual in. In real life wives and like, two. [00:39:23] Speaker C: In real life hot wives. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Yep, exactly. Super hot you are. And Liz. Well, when you say hot wife too, you're picking up something that I. That I'm about to lay down because I'm calling this match the CIS het couple at the King Club versus the queer couple at the King Club Club fight. [00:39:41] Speaker C: Yes. [00:39:44] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, right. With the wild Gamble is like, oh, yes, sure. Quiet. I've seen your type before. My girlfriend has a penis. What now? [00:40:03] Speaker C: They're definitely the we saw you from across the room and we like your vibe kind of folks here. [00:40:08] Speaker B: What. [00:40:10] Speaker A: What I realized during this match is what was starting and it's this. Because you hit the nail on the head. They're. They're beginning the arc of. Of Marlena and Goldust trying to hot wife away the valets from other guys. This is. Becomes like their New gimmick is they're like, we're done with the gay panic now they're the. The weird poly couple from across the bar. So. Well, that's what we get at some point near the finish. You know, the. The get Marlena, like, eyeing up Sable and getting in her personal space and. And doing all these things where it's just like, again, if I was still working at the club, I'd be keeping my eyes on flag sort of thing where it's like, Sable is giving you the cold, shorter shoulder. Marlena, back off. [00:41:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Read. Read the room. But, yeah, you. You picked up on that. That is. That is where they're going. It overall, though, as far as the graphs, I declare it a campy romp. Three out of five golden phases. How did you like your servings of gay Liz and Piper? [00:41:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I've got. I've got to agree with a three out of five. You know, it had its moments, and it had people that I. That I miss and look forward to seeing whenever I get the chance, but at the same time, there was a lot to distract me from it, and it just wasn't. It didn't. It didn't get. I had to force myself to go back in and sort of getting pulled back in. Like, at least it usually. It often. Not usually, but often does. [00:41:47] Speaker A: You know, you're right. [00:41:48] Speaker B: It was wonderfully unremarkable. [00:41:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's a way to say it. Yeah. [00:41:57] Speaker B: Like, I. It was a fine gold dust mark barrel match. [00:42:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:01] Speaker B: As you would expect from the two of them. But I am sitting here and looking at my notes that I didn't write anything about the match. I can't tell you a damn thing about what happened. Aside from the Marlene and Sable stuff. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty much. [00:42:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:14] Speaker A: It ends with the curtain call. Yeah. [00:42:17] Speaker B: What can I. What can I say? [00:42:20] Speaker C: Yeah. I feel like, you know, it just in my brain. Anyway, you don't want to actually take this detract from the gold dust center screen time. [00:42:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:42:34] Speaker C: Because this was like, this is it. For all it. It's a solid match. Right. It wasn't. It wasn't terribly exciting, but it would have been more exciting, I think, if there had been a little less Marlena. [00:42:46] Speaker A: Just a little less. And I love. I love Marlena. [00:42:49] Speaker C: Little less cigar sucking Marlena. Like, not that I. Again, hot wives. I don't mind hot wives. Like, I'm here for the hot wives. We know this, but in this particular. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Case, what story are they telling? Are they telling a story between Marc Mero and Goldust, or are they telling the story of what Marlena is doing disabled? And I think that's in this situation, like, I don't think it was wrongly focused, but it's not the most high flying, hard hitting action, which is gonna usually take the precedent in attention. [00:43:22] Speaker C: And as a writer, like, I kind of get it sometimes. Like you said, if it's a setup, that first book, you're introducing a lot of people and a lot of ideas and a lot. And then subsequent books, you have room to be more exciting. And this was like a setup. This was a setup. And because it was a setup, they just didn't. You didn't get the focus on. On as much excitement as I think it could have been. But I. But at the same time, like, I. I get it because I. I do that too. There. [00:43:49] Speaker A: There also was a lot of story happening here, like, you know, at the same time, like, say, because like, Goldust and Marker are telling this physical story. That was a good, solid match. Like I said, that's a solid, campy little match. Marlena and Sable are beginning to tell the setup for this longer story. And then you have the chuckle table where there is an entirely different story going on. That's kind of awesome, in my opinion, because he got Stone Cold out on commentary now, right? Stone Cold Liz is now Stone Cold. He has done. He has done his 316. Austin is gonna kick your ass. Like, he's done. He's. He's done all the things he's gotten rid of of his. His Ted DiBiase, alcoholic William Riker guy. Like, he's. He's gotten rid of all the baggage and he's being ornery. He does call gold dust this bizarre individual. And that didn't sound right coming out of his mouth at all. [00:44:52] Speaker B: I know what you meant, Steve. I know what you meant. [00:44:54] Speaker A: Yeah, but also, like, I don't like hearing Stephen Austin of the Stone Cold Stephen Austin's use Vince McMahon words. It's not. Yeah, unquestionably. And it's kick your ass. And it's like, no, don't do that. It's. It's not right. Yeah, but he did that. And. And this is great because, like, he gives Vince at one point, he says, I'm going to punch you right in your nose, son. And I was just like jumping out of my seat a little. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Huh? Huh? What else you gonna do to him, Steve? He says that he's what's going on right now, and I'm bringing the ratings up being Here. [00:45:37] Speaker C: And I was like, you're lucky enough to be sitting next to me. Yes. Yes, he is. [00:45:45] Speaker A: Damn right. And I was like, here we go. We're here. It's attitudinal, folks. It's happening. [00:45:53] Speaker B: It's. And I, I, I didn't realize just how like much of a supernova these, like two to three weeks in wrestling were. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:02] Speaker B: Where you have king of the ring. Austin becomes stone cold with the 316 promo. You have a week off and then you have passion to beat coming up. [00:46:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Who, like, folks, Garrick is my wording on the sweating on the call here, because I, again, I told the folks this is my third recording of main feed show this week and a bunch of other stuff for this. And like, yeah, it's, it's, it was a wild time. Pride, 1996 in wrestling. Little did they know. But yeah, this match was whatever. And it ends with Goldust necking his wife on tv. And that's great. So, yeah, I'm fine with it. [00:46:49] Speaker B: Good for them. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Anyone have final thoughts on so happy. Right. Anyone else have final thoughts on raw? I feel like I said everything I had to say, which is Vince McMahon. Gross. My God. My God. [00:47:00] Speaker B: When does RAW get better? [00:47:01] Speaker A: I hope soon. I'm tr. I don't know. It's, it's. [00:47:07] Speaker B: We, we've. We've been doing this. You've been doing this. I've been, I have as well been doing this over a year now. And RAW has just incredibly so been. [00:47:19] Speaker A: Ass for a year, at least a year straight. Yeah. [00:47:22] Speaker B: But they're like, right on the precipice of greatness, so I really hope they turn things around. However, I don't have the highest of hopes. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Liz, do you have any final thoughts on raw? [00:47:35] Speaker C: No. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Good. [00:47:36] Speaker C: No, it's, yeah, like, like I said, it's always fun to see some of my, my first intro to wrestling faves, you know, but at the same time, I, I always prefer any night that Vince is not around. Really? [00:47:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:54] Speaker A: I think that's gonna, that, I think that might be the answer. [00:47:57] Speaker C: That might be the answer to where. [00:47:59] Speaker A: It gets better is when he stops. [00:48:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:02] Speaker A: And starts getting his ass kicked. [00:48:04] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, I always, I always love when someone puts a beat down on him. Like, those are fun and, you know, and it's like I said, there were some really cool moments, and I do love hot wives. And, you know, I was looking at it. I mean, I did the whole thing. I'm like, could I know. Marlena. Marlena. You know, I'm like now, I would have gone for the black. I would have gone for the black. Me personally. [00:48:26] Speaker A: Oh, Liz, that's okay. More. More stogie lady for me. Gosh, I hope it's a blunt. All right. [00:48:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:48:38] Speaker C: And it'll be in long gloves and. [00:48:40] Speaker A: Yeah, black. [00:48:43] Speaker C: What's it called? Latex. [00:48:44] Speaker A: There you go. Oh, my gosh. If we ever get to. Hey. Oh, my God. Can you imagine me and Liz getting together for Halloween? I'll do Marlena, you do Sable, and it'll be absolutely. There you go. [00:48:54] Speaker B: There you go. [00:48:55] Speaker A: We'll break the Internet. [00:48:57] Speaker B: That's a photo shoot waiting to happen. [00:48:59] Speaker C: A couple of big blonde wigs. I got this, right? [00:49:02] Speaker A: All right. Hey, sickos. Coc Hendricks here doing a little multitasking. I told them I wanted a classic movie star for my wall and, well, someone snuck me in a poster of this timeless Toni Storm lady from the cell. The screws let me have some nicer things around here on a kind. They're all hopelessly addicted to gambling on the fed that I got going. I tried telling him it was fixed, but that didn't seem to stop him. And hell, girl needs her niceties. Well, I got you on the line. I'd love it if you could all tell a friend or your wrestling group, Chad. Or hell, a stranger on the bus. Check out Monday night fake fights. Wherever they get podcasts. Word of mouth keeps us going. So does well money. Can't stress that enough. So also go to patreon.comffpod you can get bonus episodes, pay per view, watch parties, and it's even a way to get your name right out on the show. [00:50:05] Speaker C: Girl, cut it out. [00:50:05] Speaker A: Someone's coming. I gotta go. If somehow, some way we've ever find a way to get goldust on the show, that will be the day that I put my. My big girl boots on and write questions and like figure out how to interview. [00:50:23] Speaker C: And on that day, I just want to be muted and in the room. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. You just like, just like on. Just like on live audience when I produce the most important election of our lives. I'm the pod cuck. Yeah, I'll just. I'll be in the corner on silent. I'm not allowed. I'm only allowed to watch. [00:50:40] Speaker C: I. I want. I am reserving the chair. [00:50:43] Speaker A: Yes, there you go. You will be. You can be podcast for that interview. There you go. [00:50:47] Speaker C: I would love that so much. [00:50:48] Speaker A: You just have to hit. You just have to hit. Press on the play button and it counts. So I'm Leaving some of that in. I don't know how much we'll see, but not right. There you go. Fun. See, kids, you get to see behind the. Behind the curtain into whatever we're calling gorilla position. I'm fine. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Yeah, we still have to figure that out. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Honestly, I'm fine with dusty position. Like, I'd like dusty more than gorilla. So in the meantime, speaking of dusty position, let's talk about nitro now, because we. We've been at this almost an hour, and we have, in fact, watched the hour show, and we have an hour and a half of nitro still. They are. They are even worse. [00:51:35] Speaker B: It's an hour 45. [00:51:37] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It really. It really did. Yeah, they really. Yeah, the whole. The whole bits in there. It is. They have to, though. It's a. It's. It's shoved. They're stuffed to the gills. It's countdown to Bash at the beach. Damn it. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah, Larry, it's a big deal. [00:51:52] Speaker A: It is kind of a big deal. Like, we're. Liz, you're here for, like, the. It's all happening. It's kind of fun. Yeah. Larry Zabisco starts going on some technocratic futures dystopian rant and. And is about to say New World Order when DDP runs up on him to interrupt him. And I just, like. I, like, almost fell over. I was like, what is going on here? [00:52:16] Speaker B: It was such a scuffed start because, like, they play the intro to the show, the pyro starts going off, and then Shivani, like, four times tries to start. Like, welcome. [00:52:25] Speaker A: What? [00:52:26] Speaker B: We're welcome. We're here on Monday night. Like, I was like, shivani, what are you doing, hon? Like, you've done this before. [00:52:34] Speaker A: Yeah, you can. [00:52:35] Speaker B: You can do it, buddy. [00:52:37] Speaker A: Like, you're one. You're one of the vets of this company at this point. Just. So you're. You're just new on the commentary table. But, yeah, this is all. This is very weird. Larry, what are you. What are you doing here? And I just, like, they. So at this point, it tells me they've already decided New World Order is a thing, because he's, like, teasing it. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Like, someone else watching at the time would not have gotten that look at us from the future. This is always good. And I love that all the sheriff's department pigs that were protecting the baby faces from Scott and Kev last week all knew exactly how to slide into a wrestling ring. I just. Just think that's interesting. Just wanted to throw that out there. All those cops seem to have done this before. And for the third week in a row, we're opening with the Steiners. So, Liz, it doesn't get. It doesn't get meatier than this. Welcome back. [00:53:34] Speaker C: True Steiner brothers. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Booker T. Yeah, I was gonna say how. How does. How does the Scott Steiner hit, Liz? Like the man's a walking bicep. Like, how does disgust or intrigue when you see Scott Snyder? [00:53:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Best answer. [00:54:05] Speaker B: Yep. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Yes. Absolutely. [00:54:08] Speaker B: Say no more. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Say no more. Yeah, I was gonna say we can. All right, we're shutting the f. The whole show down, folks. Liz got it. And you got it in one. This is fun, though. We. Booker T. Comes out again. Order. Ordering takeout on his cell phone. He did this before. [00:54:27] Speaker B: I. I hadn't seen it before him just, like, coming out, talking on the mid-90s era cell phone break. Like, the break. [00:54:35] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:54:36] Speaker B: Yeah, with the belt, I was like, damn. That's kind of hard, though. Like, that was cool. [00:54:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker A: That was big. That was big. Big deal. Like, that's a real. Like, you're a business guy if you got that sort of thing. That being said, I saw that phone in every joint I have cracked at one time. I was like, whoa, I remember. [00:55:01] Speaker B: Do you. Garrick, do you want to feel better? Sure about that? Because do you know how old I was for this show? [00:55:08] Speaker A: In. In. No, no, you've been born. You've been born. Seven months. No, Liz, you got. [00:55:15] Speaker B: Thereabouts. Probably seven to eight. Yeah. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Two months. No, seven to eight. Oh, damn. [00:55:20] Speaker B: I was seven to eight. Seven to eight months old. [00:55:22] Speaker A: I was hoping you'd win. Liz, I want to get you prizes. [00:55:24] Speaker C: I went over. Sorry. Yeah. [00:55:27] Speaker B: I was a baby. I was a baby for all this. [00:55:29] Speaker A: We. Holy crap. I. I hope that no one was showing you this. [00:55:36] Speaker C: I think I had just graduated high school. [00:55:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Actually, yes, my father was Absolutely. Had this on. [00:55:44] Speaker A: Wait, it was like. Yeah, it was. What did you say? [00:55:47] Speaker C: I had just graduated high school. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. Hey, There you go. I was 10. Wait, no, not eight. Eight. I'm sorry. Oh, geez. [00:55:58] Speaker C: I increasingly find myself the oldest in the room. It's fine. [00:56:00] Speaker A: It's okay. You're all. You're also, no offense, Piper, the prettiest in the room. There, I said it. [00:56:09] Speaker C: I. I'll take it because of my ego, but thank you, Derek. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Yeah. No offense. I agree. [00:56:16] Speaker A: Okay. Yay. See, that's why. That's why I knew Piper would pick up os laying down. We're making the guest feel welcome, folks. This is what you do when you host. And also, I just feel bad still, because. [00:56:29] Speaker B: Write that down when you're interviewing. [00:56:30] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. Make them feel welcome. And you say, you are a wonderful guest. You are a good guest and a pretty guest. And. And then you'd feel better for the fact that you made them watch that Raw. Oh. Oh, God. Thank you for being my friend. [00:56:50] Speaker C: I'm sure. I'm sure. I will ask again and we will find time to find. We will have time to find a worse one. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. This match, though, all I really have to say, overall, is meat toss. Meat toss. Meat toss, folks. If you like. If you like the tossing of meat. Watch this, Scott. Rick Steiner, at one point, he spams, scoop slams for a minute like it's his strong attack. Like the button got stuck. Stuck. [00:57:18] Speaker C: You know, I actually love that part. I was like. And again and again and again. Next guy is drop one guy, pick up the next guy, drop him, pick up the next guy. [00:57:27] Speaker A: I was like, yeah, I could do this. [00:57:29] Speaker C: This is what I'm here for. Yeah. Yeah, right. Like, I was. I was into it. Really love that part. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Right. I was like, no, just Spam them. This is great. I can watch this. I do have to take note, though. Somehow Colonel Rob Parker has returned, which is unfortunate. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I was confused why. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we all were. Yeah. [00:57:53] Speaker C: Yep. [00:57:54] Speaker A: We. We managed to get rid of him, and now he's back and sister Sherry isn't here, and I just. I. I will say if they, you know, I know that ended ugly and I'm taking her side. That man is trash. So. Yeah. Sherry side, always. As far as the finish of the opener here, Parker makes himself so useful and cracks Rick Steiner with his cane behind the rat's back. And he gets three to keep the belts. [00:58:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that's about always good for. [00:58:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess that's why he had to be there. But, like, just. Just anyone else? Any. Anybody else. [00:58:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Mean Gene then has joined the VIP table with the Horsemen and what I'm calling the Real Housewives of wcw. [00:58:43] Speaker C: Oh, I like that. [00:58:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, he got Mago's wife. He got. [00:58:48] Speaker B: I kept. I. I kept thinking about how Ric Flair is collecting women like the Infinity Stone. [00:58:54] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. [00:58:55] Speaker C: Yes. Oh, my God. That's incredible. [00:58:57] Speaker A: But this is the first time I've been going with the Pokemon analogy. This is the first time, though, really. [00:59:04] Speaker C: Got to get them all. Gotta catch them all. [00:59:05] Speaker A: Gotta catch them all. They all have special moves. [00:59:08] Speaker B: He sure tried. [00:59:09] Speaker A: He sure did. Yeah. And I. This is the first Time. It really hit me though that it's quite literally like all of his friends. Wives. [00:59:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:17] Speaker A: So I was like, no, wait, this is the Real Housewives of WCW. Like that, that's Mrs. Kevin Sullivan. That's Mrs. Michael McMichael. Former Mrs. [00:59:26] Speaker B: I wrote down Macho man is still getting cock. [00:59:30] Speaker A: Yes. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Like months upon months after that whole angle, Liz is still there talking about how she's spending Macho Man's money. Like, I know Ms. Elizabeth is not the most in depth of characters over the years, but a little more than that. Can she have a little bit more than just spending her ex husband's money? [00:59:50] Speaker A: Oh, because like that's, that's, that's all. [00:59:53] Speaker B: She said all night. [00:59:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:54] Speaker C: I resent it. None of my exes have money. [00:59:56] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Thank you, Liz. Thank you. [00:59:59] Speaker C: Not a life I got to live. [01:00:00] Speaker A: Thank you for being that the voice of reason here. Because I, I had the thought too of like, I'm so sick of them being mean to Randy Savage because they really have been mean to him. But I think I also resent that they're making me not celebrate a woman spending her ex husband's money. I was like, how, you know, how do you take that joy? [01:00:22] Speaker B: That's a, that's a good point. [01:00:24] Speaker A: It, it really should be a round of you go girls. You know, and, and instead you make. [01:00:29] Speaker C: Right. Like women supporting women is my thing. And you're making me go, okay, but maybe not this one. [01:00:34] Speaker A: Because one of those. [01:00:35] Speaker B: It really is the duality of Macho Man. [01:00:38] Speaker A: Yeah. But also it's just one of those women is femboy Ric Flair. So like. Yeah, it's like you realize that the, the, the batch is rotten, you know, the toss the whole barrel out. Yeah. Rick Flair is toxic. This, this whole thing was weird. It was very weird. [01:00:57] Speaker B: But I do like how Rick Flair was wearing the Dockers under the robe when he stands up on the table. I thought that was really funny. [01:01:05] Speaker A: Thank you for noticing that too. Because I was like, somewhere. Our dear sweet Hampter, who loves the fact that Ric Flair wrestles in Dockers, is happy because he's got underneath. Quick costume change. Oh, no. I got. Oh, God damn it. Now I lost where I was in my notes, though, because I was giggling so hard. Eric Flair. [01:01:26] Speaker B: How could you forget what came next? It was Glacier. [01:01:35] Speaker A: Yes. Well, not, not quite yet. He's coming in July. He's coming in July. But even then, not really. It's gonna be more like September. [01:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So was. This is awesome. And then also a wet fart as I think it was. [01:01:56] Speaker A: It's. I mean, I don't want to give you spoilers. [01:02:02] Speaker B: I. I kind of know the answer, given that it's glacier, but. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah, well, spoilers. Liz. Sorry. Cover yours if you don't want to know. It's a wet fart. The fart is wet. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [01:02:16] Speaker A: All right. He's got some cool kicks, but they drop asbestos from the air, like. No. [01:02:22] Speaker B: What do you mean? The kids weren't into mortal Kombat in 1996? [01:02:26] Speaker A: They. I mean, I was. It's just. This isn't Mortal Kombat. This is a marine dressed up like Sub Zero. It's. Yeah, gross is what it is. And speaking of gross, Disco Inferno's here. All right. It's disco time, kid. [01:02:50] Speaker B: That man claps on one and three. [01:02:54] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [01:02:55] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Yeah, well, he does. [01:02:59] Speaker A: I love all the awful stuff I've thrown at you tonight, Liz. That burn is what got you. Go. Oh, my God, Piper. [01:03:09] Speaker C: Jesus, man, that's. It's so good. [01:03:12] Speaker A: It's going for the throat, like. But at the same time, though, he's got a gold record, Piper. Like, how could he possibly. He's. [01:03:23] Speaker B: Look, I could go down to the thrift store and there's a 50ft to chance that I have a gold record, too. [01:03:30] Speaker A: Well, thankfully, he's fighting Kurosawa, and my gods do. I hope he works stiff. [01:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:03:38] Speaker A: It's Japan. It's strong style. Like, please. Stronger the better. Larry says that disco is annoying Kurosawa, and I'm just like, yeah, he's just like, me, for real. Like, he's annoying everybody. And then I think disco does a racism at some point. Yeah. Because he does, like a fake kata. Like. Like a fake karate. [01:04:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that was. [01:04:07] Speaker A: That was a thing. So a little bit of raw. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:12] Speaker A: You got some McMahon in my Bischoff. You got some Bischoff in my McMahon. They're a little bit of. They love each other. They'll eventually be best buds. [01:04:23] Speaker B: Oh, what do you get when you put them together? It's a Vince Russo. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So sad. Liz, as another one writer. As a writer, you. You have Vince Russo to blame for most of the awful. Yeah, yeah. Because even if, like. Even if, like, Vince McMahon was like, good pal, he didn't write all of it, and Vince Russo was like, I could come up with disgusting stuff. I'm. I too, am a sick. You know, this is great. But what you don't understand is. I don't know. [01:04:59] Speaker B: Wrong. [01:05:01] Speaker A: I'm sorry. [01:05:02] Speaker C: I'm Just mad that Kurosawa didn't win this one. [01:05:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gross. Yeah. What a. [01:05:07] Speaker B: What a. What a weird finish to the match. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Thank you for getting irritated. It's pissy about that one, I think. [01:05:15] Speaker A: And you're. You're right to be. Thank you, Liz, for getting us to the finish of this. Like skip most of it. You can pretty much skip this one, folks. But you know, just. Yeah. [01:05:26] Speaker C: It's grow once his butt starts heading down in his jumpsuit and. [01:05:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:30] Speaker B: Gar, do you have any idea who that was? [01:05:33] Speaker A: I didn't think to look because I was just so sad. But basically, yeah. Kurasawa hits him with what is essentially a beach break. Yeah. Orange Cassidy. And he hits that on him. And before he can pin him, disco music hits and a goddamn ball comes down from the ceiling. And some weird in Elvis cosplay disco dances out to distract him. [01:05:59] Speaker B: It was Mike Awesome's dad. Like I. I could not place who that was. He dances. It's the disco ball is barely used as a wrecking ball. And that's it. [01:06:14] Speaker A: That's the match, basically. Kirk. Kirk. [01:06:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:16] Speaker A: Kirkwood brand Honky Tonk man. Which is insane, honestly. Yeah. [01:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:23] Speaker A: Yep. So why is. God damn it. Why are there no good wrestling? Glenns? So that's. It's not great. All of this sucks. Chuckle on this. Larry does a racism as well. Says he went to Japan and they had the rad Rice Cafe instead or Hard Rice Cafe instead of Hard Rock Cafe. And yeah. Okay, that was sure. Woo. I guess next up though, like, I don't have much to say about that. [01:06:57] Speaker B: Was just that it's certainly attempted comedy. [01:07:00] Speaker A: All of this is like again, it's. It's raw, bleeding into my nitro. And I'm really hoping that we're not going to figure out that the 90s is just going to keep being this bad. Don't. And don't tell me, Liz, don't tell me. I was gonna say you're the only one, I think, who had like full cognitive function at this point. In the 90s. [01:07:20] Speaker C: This was my dating men who watched wrestling phase, which is how I got into wrestling. [01:07:24] Speaker A: Yes. Oh gosh. Oh. Oh my gosh. You're. [01:07:27] Speaker C: You're just a little college student. I couldn't pay for pay per views. [01:07:31] Speaker A: Hey, no one should have. Look, us pretty women should not have to pay for pay per views. I've just, I've been saying it forever. And this is why things I didn't. [01:07:42] Speaker C: Pay for drinks, my drugs or my pay per views. [01:07:44] Speaker A: There you go. God damn. [01:07:46] Speaker C: I didn't do drinking drugs. [01:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [01:07:49] Speaker B: As a baby. How to get free pay per views. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:52] Speaker B: I figured out what buttons to slap on the front of the VCR to get the. The audio feed of the wrestling pay per views. And my father is like, how the hell did you do that? And he finally figured it out. And that is how we watched pay per views probably through the mid 2000s. Was a VCR with scrambled cable and it was free to listen is what we called it. [01:08:18] Speaker A: Piper, you rule. That's so cool. That is the best that you got. Radio pay per views. I am so happy. [01:08:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I have distinct memories of hearing Rey Mysterio win his son in a ladder match. [01:08:37] Speaker A: Oh, God, you did, didn't you? [01:08:39] Speaker C: That's so cool, right? [01:08:43] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't see it, but I heard it. [01:08:45] Speaker A: I eventually saw it later, and it looked as bad as it sounded, I'm sure. [01:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I can imagine. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. Maybe we'll get there again. The fact we started our second year of this show, Liz, and now all of a sudden we're franchising and, like, people are already being like, well, what are you gonna do when you run out of Monday Night Wars? I'm like, I got like four more years. Can you let me get through that before we start thinking about what we're gonna do next? We'll see if I survive this. [01:09:20] Speaker B: Right? [01:09:21] Speaker C: Well, I know you got this. [01:09:22] Speaker A: Oh, yep. We're shadow boxing. There we go. I don't know. Two more. Two more years of 90s and I'm just gonna be like, shaking in the corner. How did I get through this the first time? [01:09:38] Speaker B: Youthful ignorance. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Yes. Well, hey, that's a transition. Speaking of youthful ignorance, Scotty Riggs is coming out. Fight ddp. I wrote that. He looks like leather, dude. Mortal Kombat ninja. And I'm kind of into it, like, yes. [01:09:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:58] Speaker A: The American males are doing like this. This straight across their chest, things going on. [01:10:03] Speaker B: Now I got to hear the American male theme. And I'm happy. [01:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:06] Speaker B: I love that song so much. [01:10:08] Speaker A: It brings my week up every time. Yeah. DDP makes his way out and he is fully DDP now. And because he lost, someone stole his ring. That's what he interrupted with earlier. Somebody stole his diamond ring. And he is angry. [01:10:25] Speaker C: Yes. [01:10:26] Speaker A: So he is frisking everybody. It was really great. [01:10:31] Speaker C: Turn out your pockets. Okay. [01:10:33] Speaker A: All right. I suppose, like, I think this is probably gonna keep him busy for, like, at least a week. I'm hoping this match is slow paced. Oh, Go ahead. Sorry. [01:10:45] Speaker B: Not, not, not to, to, to spoil. But he gets it back at the end. [01:10:50] Speaker A: I, I was gonna say that's what I, that's why I wrote down at the time. But like to spoil. He does get it back at the end, which is its own. Yeah, weird thing. We'll get there. Yeah. Hey. Oh, but yes, we're slow paced but fun. DDP is angry. He keeps up and decides that the word of the day is pump handle. Like he just so many little pump handle slams, pump handle back breakers. Like he's just every pump handle back. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Breaker he did was gnarly. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Was something else. Yeah. How did you all enjoy your Diamond Dallas page of it all this week? [01:11:28] Speaker B: Like you said, he's DDP right now. [01:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got there. [01:11:32] Speaker B: It's good. He's good. [01:11:35] Speaker C: I, I was gonna say. I'm trying to remember any time when I didn't like watching him fight. [01:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah, he's real good. He's just. [01:11:43] Speaker C: No, I just. [01:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, he's just super good at this. [01:11:46] Speaker B: One of the most, just one of the most consistent performers I think at this time. [01:11:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:50] Speaker B: And like for the next couple years, like if it's got DDP involved, it is gonna be solid to excellent for the next probably four to five years. [01:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, he's gonna keep riding that. I mean they, he hits the Federation at least. I mean he was going to be the guy he was supposed to be the champion when the Fed. When the, when WCW eventually gets swallowed up. Like he was supposed to be the next in line to be champ. So like. Yeah, and, and honestly I, I think he gets it once before, doesn't he? Oh, we'll see. I guess. Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves by years at this point. But yeah, like he, we're excited. He's. He's almost reached his final, final fight for him. He's gonna be an old yogi soon. But for now he's DDP and it's great. I had a few notable, notable spots beside the pump handle though because at one point he does a, a jawbreaker with the top of his head where he like sits down kind of like Austin had been doing. And those two are, are old buddies because they used to work in WCW together. And Austin is now doing his stunner, which is basically a variation of the Diamond Cutter, which, which is his finisher. And I can't help. I like, are they sending each other little secret love notes over the inter. Over the television? [01:13:10] Speaker B: One can hope. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Oh, I mess you like that. I just I want to, I want to imagine the wrestlers just being like hey, I see you bud. Good on you. [01:13:20] Speaker B: And it's not like painfully overt like it is with the click. [01:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. [01:13:27] Speaker C: I, I, you know, it's like now we have reals. They didn't. [01:13:31] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:13:32] Speaker C: How, how do you, how do you send your, how do you send your bestie? A little something to be to remind them that you love them. [01:13:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm Turner Broadcasting is how. [01:13:42] Speaker B: Yeah, just you grab the, grab by the neck, shoulders back, chest out, drop them down. [01:13:50] Speaker A: You crush that throat, son. That's what you do. Yeah. The middle of the match they send us though because like they're again, they're getting the raw in my, in my nitro. They send us away from the graps. They send us the Jim Duggan and Larry ass if we have to. Which I thought that was pretty good stuff. Like he's. Occasionally he hits a Bobby Heenan note. This was mostly gibberish though. He very performatively and heterosexually informs us that he doesn't wear jewelry. Like some sort of queer. I tape up my fists with tape that I keep under my balls and I put in dudes faces. Tough guy. That's what he does. [01:14:29] Speaker B: His packing list consists of two things. Tape and a two by four. [01:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:36] Speaker B: And that's just because he is so silly. But he has been consistently been a highlight for me in these episodes that I've watched. [01:14:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:44] Speaker B: Because he's always just doing something ridiculous like even this little thing talking about his like just his little packing list and like where he keeps his tape was silly. And as we'll see later, him going to Ireland was. [01:15:03] Speaker A: DDP brings it back. He, he brings like that was, he brought that back last week. It was a deep cut but he talked about how what was his grandma, some tape fizz. The Irish bimbo. And it's like oh my God, that was, that's a callback. We watched that episode where he, they took him to Ireland. Austin. Yeah, it was weird. And yeah, just what a, what a thing I guess. And ddp, I guess is mean. Gene's like, well I'll talk to you about it. And all I wrote for this is DDP wants his precious. [01:15:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. There's my ring. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Turn out your pockets. [01:15:40] Speaker B: He won it. [01:15:42] Speaker C: Checked his tight after he knocked him out. [01:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:15:45] Speaker B: Makes sense. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he won it from the Lord of the Rings contest. Exactly. But gosh. Yeah, that, that's the end of that. Quick. Oh, I don't even think we said the finish, but do we have to. Diamond Cutter. One, two, three. Come on, Diamond Cutter, folks. It's a bang. Okay, this is how it's going to happen. Next up, though, Greg Valentine is here. [01:16:11] Speaker B: What the. They're like, yeah, Greg Valentine's back in wcw. And I was like, oh, okay. [01:16:17] Speaker A: Why, why? So, yeah, I don't want to. I hope you didn't get too confused, Liz. There is another nature boy looking here. [01:16:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:31] Speaker B: I don't want to be rude to. To Mr. Valentine, but I feel like it may be safe to say that Greg the Hammer Valentine is nobody's favorite wrestler. [01:16:40] Speaker A: I think he's great. Valentine's favorite wrestler. [01:16:43] Speaker B: I don't even know if I would agree with that. Oh, I think Greg the Hammer Valentine's favorite wrestler is whoever he's working that night so he can get paid. Yeah, he never. I've never seen him look like he's like, out there to have a good time. He just looks like he's out there to like. Yep. Clocking in, clocking out. More so than any other wrestler I. [01:17:04] Speaker A: Think I've ever seen, probably. Yeah. Yeah. [01:17:06] Speaker C: I. Honestly, I. He was one. I didn't remember before I came back to this. I was like, oh, okay. [01:17:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, he's here. Yeah. Who's this guy? [01:17:14] Speaker C: Okay. [01:17:15] Speaker A: No, that is. [01:17:16] Speaker C: Wow, that's some shiny. That's some shiny hair. [01:17:17] Speaker A: Okay, Liz, that is. That is the correct response to seeing Craig Valentine because. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Macho man comes out and you know what you're getting? Like, like, he's representing Team TV Tassels, Team Kisses, and Team Stinger. Tonight. [01:17:34] Speaker B: Macho man looked awesome. He looked awesome. That gear ruled, right? [01:17:42] Speaker C: Oh, I. Yeah, I was. [01:17:46] Speaker A: I got nothing else to say about that than just like, he's Macho Man. And then in the meantime, Greatine is, what if I was a nature boy? What then? And like, yeah, he even tries to do a flare flop during this match. It's weird. [01:18:04] Speaker C: Oh, I didn't. You know what? I didn't even. Yeah, I didn't even connect because I was just like. But it's Macho Man. [01:18:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. You're all thinking. You're all thinking about Macho Man. I. I love Macho. I was just. I. Apparently this is the episode where I realized I was just angry at Greg Valentine. I've been mad at him this whole time. I didn't realize. [01:18:23] Speaker B: All his fault. [01:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:25] Speaker C: Like, it was kind of one of those things where I looked in the both and I'm like, Do I already know how this works out? Just because I can. I recognize one of them. I don't recognize the other. [01:18:34] Speaker A: You called it. Yeah. [01:18:35] Speaker B: It's usually a safe bet. [01:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:39] Speaker B: Like, welcome to wrestling. [01:18:40] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. So like the. That brings us to the finish. Like, folks, this isn't. Don't. I feel free to skip this one, I guess. But like, they start the 32nd. [01:18:53] Speaker B: Yeah. They have the. The countdown for the second hour of Monday Nitro. [01:18:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:58] Speaker B: And I've never seen that before. [01:19:00] Speaker A: This is a thing that they are. They are dealing with. They want to really point out that we're doing two hours. Haha. So they do like a fancy countdown. And the only thing I noticed though, that made me giggle is you can hear the ref. When they get the 30 second countdown starts. You can hear the ref goes 35 seconds to the guys. Sure enough, as soon as he does that, Masho rushes into the elbow for the win in like seconds after getting the three. Eric and Bobby kickoff hour too. [01:19:37] Speaker B: It really was like hits the elbow, 1, 2, 3. We got second hour. Like they were just there. I couldn't tell if the pyro was from Macho winning or them hitting the second hour of Nitro. It was so close. [01:19:49] Speaker A: I think Macho wanted that. Wanted it and that. And he's like, I'm gonna. [01:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:54] Speaker A: He's like, comes up to the reference. You just gotta tell me when we got 30s, it was. [01:19:58] Speaker C: It was like an action movie. It was like an action movie. He gets up at one second. [01:20:02] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Boom. You hit the buzzer shot. Yeah. Eric tries to get serious with everyone and thank everyone for their support while I was in the hospital taking a break. And he's drowned out by people chanting Weasel for Bobby. I think at least that's what I. It sounded like Weasel. And I was like, yeah, I'm behind this crowd. This is my crowd. [01:20:27] Speaker B: I couldn't figure out what they were saying. [01:20:30] Speaker A: Unfortunately, later in the show I got clarification because, you know, I don't think there's spoilers. I don't think that they were shouting Weasel for our dear, dear Bobby Heenan. I think they're chanting Diesel because of Kevin Nash. [01:20:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that makes sense. [01:20:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And Kevin Nash, you know, did the hurting on the. The Eric guy. So they're like, hey, you little buddy. Yeah. [01:20:59] Speaker B: And he's there with his buddy, got home eating popcorn. [01:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:04] Speaker C: Eating popcorn in the. Interacting with. [01:21:10] Speaker B: Buying tickets is such a heel move. It's like, I know it's. It's all a work, but God, that's. [01:21:17] Speaker A: So good and showing them off. [01:21:19] Speaker B: We got tickets. [01:21:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we could do. Yeah. You know what you could do about it? [01:21:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:26] Speaker A: And then, yeah, we. We get the same glacier teaser again. Because the one per hour they paid good money for that CGI and they're gonna shove it in big big. [01:21:39] Speaker B: In my notes was glacier again. [01:21:41] Speaker A: Again, Blood Runs Cold, folks. [01:21:48] Speaker B: We got it. [01:21:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:50] Speaker B: The first time. [01:21:51] Speaker A: Pretty sure. And then John Tenta makes his way out, still half mowatted versus the Giant. This was that. [01:22:00] Speaker B: What a. You wanna. You wanna talk about a good hand, John. John Tanto. [01:22:05] Speaker A: Yep. John Tenta was a good man. He was an okay shark. He's a good man. He's not a fish, as he'd let us know, but this is a trooper. [01:22:17] Speaker B: For rocking that haircut. [01:22:18] Speaker A: Trooper. Liz. They sent this guy out into the real world like. [01:22:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they saved it weeks ago. [01:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. He's looked like this for like a month. [01:22:30] Speaker C: I have always had my questions about some of those choices. [01:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, could they really be that good? [01:22:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, not from what I'm hearing. [01:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Not enough to keep him. I think he's gonna be gone soon and, you know, good for him. [01:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:47] Speaker A: Teta has a title shot. That's not the main event. And that kind of saddens me because again, I love me so Johnson. But this is the sort of the story of the entire Giants title run is like he, he's the world champion, but we're not going to put him on the main event because Flair's here and he really. He's a placeholder for. [01:23:07] Speaker B: He's having championship matches with people that he could have great matches with and they just end up being kind of stinkers. [01:23:16] Speaker A: They just end up being whatever matches is. Yeah, it's like this was a. [01:23:20] Speaker B: Whatever match. Like those two guys could absolutely put on like a great. Just big house. Beat him up. [01:23:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:23:26] Speaker B: And it wasn't. [01:23:27] Speaker A: No. And the crowd has no heat for this at all. And I'm like, I kind of get it. Like, this is my notable spot here, though. Said as they're. They're laying it on thick. About the third man in the commentary booth. Bobby sounds actually terrified. But speaking of laying it on thick, Paul White cake, Giants God, big old man butt. And I'm here for it. And I'm sorry, strike me down if you need to. He uses it with power. Even in the corner. He throws that cake. [01:24:02] Speaker B: He did do that. He did do that. [01:24:07] Speaker C: I absolutely, absolutely had the hots for that one. [01:24:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna thank You. Yeah, I was gonna say, like, that's a. That's a sexy giant. Like, that's Is. [01:24:16] Speaker B: I don't know if you've been following along week by week or. [01:24:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I forgot. [01:24:21] Speaker B: But did you happen to catch the giants. Giant from a couple of weeks ago? [01:24:25] Speaker C: I haven't yet. [01:24:27] Speaker A: Well, that. Yeah, well, I will. [01:24:31] Speaker C: I mean, I'm definitely. I'm definitely moving my way up now, but. [01:24:35] Speaker B: Oh, it. What is. What is a step past a moose knuckle? Because he was there. It was. [01:24:44] Speaker A: And we made it. And. Yes, we made it. The image for the show. So if you can't. Because we're a classy bunch here. Yeah. Jesus. Oh, I am so sorry, folks. I'm not. But the. The Dungeon of Doom is in its gazpacho era zero heat. All of this is just the wettest of parts. Yeah. And it sucks because I like all these guys the most part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up until Bubba and Taskmaster come out. I don't like those guys. [01:25:17] Speaker C: They didn't do anything for me, that's for sure. I was like, I. I do remember you, but I don't remember you with any sort of fondness. [01:25:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:24] Speaker B: I just look like my friend's dad. [01:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And Bubba's just. He comes out, and he did. They did do the distracting, and he gets hit in the back of head and choke. Slammed back to the Mariana's trudge pork shark. And it's. Yeah. They then shave half of his beard to match his head. And I'm like, okay, well, sure. [01:25:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:45] Speaker A: I like symmetry. [01:25:49] Speaker B: They should have got him on the other side, so we had, like, a checkerboard thing going on. That would have been totally. [01:25:55] Speaker A: All right, give it. Give it the book. Piper's Viper's booking from now on out. [01:26:00] Speaker B: They weren't looking out for. For Tenta. Like, that would have been fresh, but. [01:26:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:05] Speaker B: No. [01:26:06] Speaker A: John Tentacul started a new look in the 90s. Yeah. [01:26:09] Speaker B: He could have. You would have seen large men like him walking around with a half and halves. [01:26:14] Speaker C: Like, with it. [01:26:15] Speaker B: It would have been a thing. Yeah. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Oh, geez. That sounds. God, sounds like Demolition man or some like. [01:26:25] Speaker B: It is very. Yeah. [01:26:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Cyberpunky. Then we move into exposure in the worst way. Yeah. Exposition quarter with me. She. I'm laughing because, like, Gene looks downright annoyed that he has to try to talk to these gooners like. Like, God damn it. All right. Bubba talks his. He lets us know there'll be socks full of silver dollars on a pole match because he took some nickels he. [01:26:55] Speaker B: Put him in a sock. I'm like, okay, yeah. [01:26:58] Speaker A: And he. [01:26:59] Speaker B: Why? [01:27:00] Speaker A: And he did a violence. And it was actually kind of hard to watch. Like, I did not like him laying into my tenta again. Leave John Tenta alone. That. That is shark abuse. So they're having a Carson City silver dollar match. Jesus. Okay, sure. [01:27:16] Speaker B: Hey, hey, hey. Silver dollar on a poll on a pole. We are. We are in like. [01:27:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He's in the other company again. It's bleeding in. Vince Russo will eventually come work. [01:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:27:35] Speaker A: He will eventually come over to WCW and he literally puts everything on a pole. He looked like he put a dude's mom on a pole. Like, he put. Like, everything's in. [01:27:46] Speaker B: Hey. [01:27:47] Speaker A: Okay. [01:27:47] Speaker B: Hey. You put a dude's mom on a forklift. [01:27:50] Speaker A: Okay. Yes, it was on a forklift. I. I still don't understand that one. Again. We'll get there. [01:27:56] Speaker B: Nobody will. [01:27:56] Speaker A: Nobody will. [01:27:57] Speaker B: Nobody will. [01:27:59] Speaker A: You look. You look very curious, Liz, as to what is this is all about. [01:28:05] Speaker B: I'm having thoughts. [01:28:06] Speaker C: I'm like, could you do with a poll? [01:28:08] Speaker A: Oh, gee. Oh, God. You know, right? [01:28:10] Speaker B: It's not. [01:28:11] Speaker A: It's. It's not. It's not. [01:28:12] Speaker B: It's not any kind of fun. Fun. [01:28:14] Speaker A: It's not a fun pole. It wasn't. We like the pole. Honestly. You could have. [01:28:20] Speaker C: That's the thing is like, you could have had a fun pole, but. [01:28:24] Speaker A: Oh, no. [01:28:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:24] Speaker B: You put one in the middle of. [01:28:25] Speaker C: The ring, but a man was in. [01:28:27] Speaker A: Turn like a dancer. [01:28:28] Speaker B: Somebody would like spun around. [01:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:30] Speaker B: And done like an awesome like kick spot. [01:28:33] Speaker A: Like, that would have been rad. That would have been rad. And then they had the kick spot and they shake that ass. And then, you know, it worked at the. [01:28:42] Speaker B: And then throwing. Then throwing stuff at the ring. Makes sense. [01:28:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, that's where the silver dollars come from. Yeah, exactly. [01:28:47] Speaker C: That's where the silver dollars. Like, I'm having an entirely different idea here than what's going to happen. Sucks. [01:28:54] Speaker A: Oh, thank you, folks. We eventually got to Kazuchiko Okada, the Rainmaker. Is what we did here. [01:29:00] Speaker B: Quite a different bash at the beach. [01:29:01] Speaker A: Yeah. This whole thing just. Yeah. It was kind of funny though, because like, I was like, all right, maybe giant will thing and say, sure kind. [01:29:13] Speaker B: He did for about two lines. And then. No. [01:29:16] Speaker A: Well, yeah, he did a little bit. Yeah. But then he ends up saying that the four Horsemen will be leaving his four geldings. And I had to. I had to do a Google because I was pretty sure I knew what that meant. But I. [01:29:29] Speaker C: You Were right. [01:29:30] Speaker A: Had to get it right. Sure enough, the Giant is offered. Offering free orkies to the Horsemen girls. Let's go here we're going. My horse people to me like, let's go. It was weird. All of it. Weird. We get a lot. Speaking of weird, we get a long look at this crowd. Lots of Horsemen stuff. And one dude who's just like jacked and flexing like he's auditioning for a job. Oh my God. [01:30:02] Speaker B: I saw that guy was. He was massive. [01:30:06] Speaker A: But also just like drink some water. Like. Good on you. But are you trying to make weight? What's going on here? Then they hit the. For the highlight reel of Rey Mysterio and D. Malenko and. [01:30:28] Speaker B: Which was just one match cut up. [01:30:31] Speaker A: Yeah, but. But when it's Ray Ray, you get a highlight reel out of one match. [01:30:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Which I guess is telling. [01:30:39] Speaker A: Yeah. If we finally have Rey Mysterio. Liz, how did you. This little package of Ray jumping on Dinola. [01:30:48] Speaker C: I am a huge Rey Mysterio fan. [01:30:51] Speaker A: As you should be. [01:30:54] Speaker C: So like anytime he's flying, I'm happy. [01:30:57] Speaker A: He's good. [01:30:58] Speaker C: Like, he's just like he. And you know, and I rude. But be. You know, the height differences and things and like he's like a little flying squirrel. [01:31:06] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just a little. [01:31:08] Speaker C: And nothing. Can he just. Hello, sugar glider. [01:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't help it too. Because he's like 22 here. Like he is a baby. [01:31:18] Speaker C: Oh, see, that's not gonna help me. That's not gonna help me at all. Because now it's just a little guy disappear. [01:31:25] Speaker A: He's so good. It is so. [01:31:27] Speaker B: But like, yeah, he's an eight year veteran. Like it's. [01:31:33] Speaker C: He just. He just. I love. I have a special place in my heart for the wrestlers who are acrobat. [01:31:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:40] Speaker C: Right. Because there's really good fighters and there's really good choreographers basically. But then. Then you get the acrobats. You're like, okay, I'm here. Like, I'm here. Show me. Show me something. [01:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah, do something. [01:31:52] Speaker C: Because it's just. Yeah, because it's just so. It's like. That's when you know, that's when you're like, no one else can do this but you. [01:31:59] Speaker A: Yeah, this is. [01:32:01] Speaker C: This is special. This is. [01:32:02] Speaker A: This is. [01:32:03] Speaker C: Nobody can do this but you. You know, and. Yeah, there's my. There are. There's people who have their strengths and I love that about different people, you know, But. But the acrobats and especially. And it's in it's very. Well, I see it more in the Japanese wrestling and in the luchadoras than I do in the Americans who really want, like, the bulk seems to be the thing for them especially. [01:32:26] Speaker A: But like, yeah, you know. Yes. [01:32:33] Speaker C: Show me that, man. Because as soon as I see that come down, I'm like, yeah, I know what we're getting now. [01:32:38] Speaker A: Yep. He's. He's going to be. He's going to fly way too high. Far too. [01:32:43] Speaker C: I love it. I am. [01:32:44] Speaker A: I'm okay. [01:32:45] Speaker C: And. And yes, I get thirsty for it. [01:32:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Naturally. Yes. [01:32:48] Speaker C: But now that I know that he's a bb, I'm like, okay. But I was a baby then, so it's okay. [01:32:52] Speaker A: So it's fine. Yeah, you're okay now. It's like, I would like you to maybe, you know, get your heart broken four or five times and then, you know, we'll see where we're at when you're growing up. No, no offense, kids, but again, I. I also am an old. And the idea. [01:33:09] Speaker C: But I respect the flying. [01:33:10] Speaker A: Yeah. The idea of dating a 22 year old is just horrifying. Yeah. [01:33:15] Speaker C: Like, I can't. [01:33:16] Speaker A: I. [01:33:17] Speaker C: It's. It's. It's awe. That's what it is. [01:33:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:33:20] Speaker C: It's not really thirst. It is awe. [01:33:22] Speaker A: It's shocking awe. Yeah. Speaking of shock and awe again, be a great transition this week because Bishop starts freaking out because the outsiders are like, nah, Rey Mysterio who was trying to come out. They're like, no, you. We got a mic. Bischoff says, get them out of here. And Big Kev tells them basically to back the off. Like, I heard him go like, back the off me. I was like, all right. We're all right. Okay. Wow. And Team Stinger comes out to get some. Eventually, the entire. Basically the whole locker room comes out heels as well to get between them and Bobby Heenan. Thank. They're like, you leave our Bobby alone. And then the point happens where I'm like, weasel chant. Eric's like, hey, they're saying weasel for you, Bobby. And I realize, oh, they're. He's covering his ass because the crowd is saying Diesel. And yeah, the lawsuit thing where they say his name. The crowd's like, that, we can. We know who this guy is. It's Large Father. Cool. We. We know him. And just when I think this will all be super serious. Speaking of the Large father, Big Cubs. Big Kev starts chanting Attica again. I'm like, God damn it, dude. [01:34:47] Speaker B: That's what it was. I wrote that on my Notes. I didn't know what he said. [01:34:50] Speaker A: Yeah, Attica, man. I'm like, are you all right? Yes, we get it. You like film. As he will show us in his after rest. [01:35:00] Speaker B: See, I thought with Kevin Nash, I thought it was Indica. [01:35:03] Speaker A: Indica, yeah. Yeah. Kev likes his. His sativas. Now, after a bit though, this becomes like five to seven minutes of just guys standing around. It's compelling in context, you know, and that's what's wild to me is like I put myself in the context. I'm like, oh, this is compelling. Like, you don't know what these guys are gonna do. Eric throws the commercial and Bobby says, let's get the hell out of here. Bring Tony and Larry back. Yeah, well, what the living legend deal with this. Then we get back to more Gene times. Gene's getting a workout tonight. He's out front, he's in the line. He's all over the place. What woman is being woman at him. But this is Jim Duggan time again. And this. He wants Gene to know that he went to the bathroom and I think he shat out DDP's ring. It was. I went to relieve myself. I turned around, here's this ring. But I was like, okay, I know what. I dropped trial in a ring. Yeah, that was like, what do you. I know. I think I know what. [01:36:13] Speaker C: It was not what I was expecting. Yeah, it was not what I was expecting, but I was like, okay. Okay. [01:36:22] Speaker A: So I think he's trying. I think what he was trying to say is that he went to the bathroom and he found the ring on the floor. The floor while he was using the bathroom. But his wording was wild. [01:36:37] Speaker B: He's. He's always a highlight. [01:36:39] Speaker A: He's always a highlight. And the. The promo get. Doesn't get better from there. And therefore it's awesome because DDP shows up with Jacques. I know what you did, Duggan. [01:36:53] Speaker C: Don't forget wearing it on his pinky. [01:36:55] Speaker A: Yes. [01:36:56] Speaker C: Because he's like, it's not even a man sized ring. Yeah, he's all whining because. [01:37:00] Speaker A: And I was like, okay, okay, sure. [01:37:03] Speaker C: Well, my brain is still shorting out on, why do you have that on your finger? Yeah, because I'm still in the. [01:37:09] Speaker A: In the weirdness. Yeah. Even if you found that on the bathroom floor. [01:37:13] Speaker B: Doesn't wash his hands. [01:37:14] Speaker A: No. Look where he keeps his tape. [01:37:16] Speaker C: I just look at that guy where he keeps it. [01:37:18] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. [01:37:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, speaking of. He tosses. [01:37:21] Speaker B: That's why he got confused. [01:37:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:37:23] Speaker B: Because he went, well, the ring Is like the tape and I put that around. [01:37:30] Speaker A: Oh, God. All right. Oh, I don't like that. The image makes sense to me. [01:37:36] Speaker B: Well, where did he pull the tape out from? [01:37:38] Speaker A: Well, yes, we'll find out. Yeah. Because he throws the ring at. At ddp who, like, bends down and then I just wrote down Hanna Barbara style. Because he, like, full living cartoon reaches into his shorts and, like, sticks the tongue out. Wraps. [01:37:59] Speaker B: The shittiest, like, hand wrap of all time. There you go. [01:38:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. See? Liz got it. All right. Yeah. And then it hits him and it's him. And it's good. [01:38:10] Speaker C: Really? [01:38:11] Speaker B: Yep. [01:38:14] Speaker A: Wild. [01:38:16] Speaker C: Trailing tape streamers. [01:38:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm like, you know, as a comedy wrestling bit, like, this is actually really great. And it's what? Like, again, I just continue to love DDP because you can. You could throw him into serious and he'll probably be good as they are going to very soon here. And you can have him doing this comedy and it's gold. But. Yeah. Yeah. DDP in the NWO is one of my favorite aspects. The NWO to. At this point. Ddp. We just got him. He's just finally fully bloomed, you know, and now they're gonna try to do this outsider and try to get him involved. And he's like, just say no. Just say no, kids. [01:39:02] Speaker C: So it's possible. I lack context. [01:39:05] Speaker A: Yes. [01:39:05] Speaker C: But heading into the next. [01:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:09] Speaker C: Fight. [01:39:09] Speaker A: Yes. [01:39:10] Speaker C: How is it not the Ricken Roll Express? [01:39:17] Speaker B: Because they weren't clever in the 80s. [01:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:20] Speaker C: I feel like they just missed it. Like, they're wearing the T shirts and I'm like. But he's right there. Even walked out first. Okay. So. Because I thought maybe I'm missing something here. Maybe, like, I get rock and roll. Like, I get it. [01:39:32] Speaker A: Yes. [01:39:33] Speaker C: But I was like. But I feel like there was an opportunity here and I'm. [01:39:36] Speaker A: Well, they could have called it the Rick and Roll Express match. Yeah. [01:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:40] Speaker C: You're too clever anyway. [01:39:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, yeah. [01:39:43] Speaker B: Because did you know that the Ricky of the Rick and Roll Express, Ricky Morton, was 800 years old in this match, and he just had another match probably like two weeks ago. [01:40:00] Speaker A: Yeah. No, he still worked. [01:40:02] Speaker B: That guy is still going. [01:40:03] Speaker A: And he still looks exactly like that. And it's. It's. [01:40:07] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. [01:40:08] Speaker A: He. He's. He's. He's the real life outrunner in that. In that he has just been 50 for. For 50 years. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's 38 in this match. And that's like, whoa. All right. First things first, though, because he's Only. Wow. Yeah. No, right. He just, he's like, Arn. Arn's in his 30s. It's like. No, dude, you are an uncle. You are. You are. [01:40:33] Speaker B: You're perennially 45. [01:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah. At least. [01:40:37] Speaker C: Man, I really love the 90s, right. [01:40:40] Speaker A: When 30 year old men looked like 50 year old men. Yeah. First things first though, with this, because it is Rock and Roll Express, Renegade and Joe Gomez, which is a hell of a. A rant. Just let's talk. Who do we got? What do you mean? [01:41:01] Speaker B: Greg Valentine was in earlier? [01:41:03] Speaker A: Yeah, we. Well, it was. We could only have one nature boy per match, you see, so he had to get out earlier because they are fighting the Horsemen at full power, kids, for like the first time in a while. This might be the first time we've all. We've seen all four Horsemen in a match at once. I think, I think, I think they. [01:41:22] Speaker B: Said it was the first time it was all four on nitro. [01:41:25] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I mean. [01:41:26] Speaker B: But it's only like the second time. [01:41:29] Speaker A: Outside of like a. Yeah. Outside of like a Whale War Games where it's a great match like that. Yeah. [01:41:36] Speaker C: I love how everybody kind of coordinates except for Rick. [01:41:39] Speaker A: Yes. That was my thing. [01:41:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:41:41] Speaker C: Because then you can see when he goes. You can see his shorts when he goes flying over the top rope. When they dump him out, you're just like, oh, that was flair. [01:41:47] Speaker A: Yep. I love that you noticed that too, Liz. That like everyone's uniformed except Rick is with the girls. You know, he's gotta be flashed out. And I was like, yeah, no, he's limited. [01:42:02] Speaker C: But it did make it easy to see where he was. [01:42:04] Speaker A: Yeah. With. Yeah. Right. Within 30 seconds of this match starting. I'm like in love with it already because, like, Arn gets sent down the line of the guys on the outside just like, hit, hit. And then Ricky hits him and he falls over and flops. I was like, this is gonna be fun. Like good old fashioned silly tag team wrestling. And like, because the Horsemen and the Express, like, this is classy, wild stuff. [01:42:30] Speaker B: I did get a. I did get a kick out of there being the early. Everybody is in scramble. [01:42:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:37] Speaker B: And everybody's beating on each other. And then like Mongo is still in the corner. Like, I. I don't know what to do, guys. [01:42:43] Speaker A: I'm new. [01:42:44] Speaker B: He like kind of stumbles in and like, like starts to take a shot at somebody. Like, it was just really funny to see him be so confused. Just like, what, what do I do here? [01:42:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, last time Liz was here He. He was on. On commentary with Pepe. Yeah, yeah. So we don't get Pepe anymore because Mango has to fight about it. So he's a wrestler now. And. Yeah, sure enough, everyone does the. I've never done a pull apart brawl, guys. You gotta tell me how these go. Yeah, this is literally my first rodeo. Like, damn it. It's a. It's a fun main event. It's eight brawley, guys. It's good. Folks. I say, check this one out. I had fun, yo. [01:43:22] Speaker C: For sure. For sure. I had fun watching. Watching it. [01:43:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:43:25] Speaker B: Lots of nasty chops in there from. [01:43:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, Rick. Hit one on. On flair. Hit one chop on Ricky Morton. Like, I felt my soul leave my body, basically. And. But then, like, right after that, Ricky Morton, with his. His feathery, wonderful hair, does some lucha. Like, he did some straight up Lucha libre where he's like, whole, like, getting up for the Hurricane Rana, hooking his feet on the turnbuckles to, like, look at the crowd like this and, like, give him a. [01:43:57] Speaker C: Hey. [01:43:57] Speaker A: And I'm like, that's a race spot. Like that. And then he heard a karana at his ass. And I was like, what? I think I might have been sleeping on Ricky Morton this whole time. I think Ricky Morton might be one of the goats. And. And no one told me because that was. [01:44:15] Speaker B: I think you're probably right because I kind of feel the same way in everything I've seen him in. It's weird whether it was something on AEW, like a couple years ago or like stuff like this or. Yeah, right. Or like even like, highlight stuff from like their, like, 80s, early 90s runs. Like. Yeah, he's just good. [01:44:38] Speaker A: It's very strange because he. It's. He looks like that consistently. [01:44:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. [01:44:46] Speaker C: Yeah. I was gonna say. I think I feel like I need to watch more of him. [01:44:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:44:49] Speaker C: Because I'm at that place where I was a Casual enough. Right. That I just see things and go, oh, okay, so this is what this is. And then I'm like, but why don't I. Why don't I have good, standout memories of that guy of you? Because that was fun. [01:45:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:45:06] Speaker C: You know? [01:45:07] Speaker A: No, see, and this is why I love having people who only have a passing knowledge. Because that's a damn good question, Liz. Why. Why don't. Why doesn't the casual fan know who Ricky Morton is? They should, right? [01:45:20] Speaker C: Like, that was. It was so much fun to watch. But. And, but there are some people at the moment. I mean, Razor Ramon, like, steps out and you're like, I know him. Yeah, right. Flair walks up. Well, yeah. I mean, you don't have to ever watch wrestling once and you know who nature boy is. But like. But there's. There are some really solid guys that I see. Saw here in this fight that I was like, I don't. Like, I don't remember you, but I want to. Versus the. I don't remember you and I don't care that I got earlier. [01:45:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:45:50] Speaker B: Ricky and Bobby are like kind of those guys where, like, they'll come out and like, the kid that's just getting into wrestling is there with his dad and his dad goes, ricky and Bobby. [01:46:00] Speaker A: Like, yeah. [01:46:00] Speaker B: That's what those guys are at that point in time. [01:46:03] Speaker C: Like, they're like. They're like good character actors whose name you never remember. But you. But you catch them in every movie they're in. And then you're like, wait a second, I just saw him in. You know. [01:46:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Ricky. Ricky Morton. No, Brian Dennehy. Like, yeah, like, he's the Brian. [01:46:18] Speaker C: Exactly. [01:46:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Character actors. Am I right? Like, yeah, I look like this forever and Because I'm just good. Yeah. Like, yep, he's so good. And that's a good, good call. Yeah. They are the character actors of wrestling because they still do. They show up now super old, get their ass solid because they show up in the ass beat and. And because. And it like, they know their role and they do it so good and everyone loves them because like Piper said at this time, you have the dads in 96 going, Ricky and Bobby. And it's like this big deal. And now you have that little kid who was there in the crowd. Has his kid in the crowd at aew and they come out and Ricky and Bobby. [01:47:04] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. Which is. Is incredible that in the world of pro wrestling you can have those multi generational guys around still. [01:47:13] Speaker A: It's so. [01:47:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:47:15] Speaker A: It's one of many reasons I love. Yeah. This is. [01:47:18] Speaker C: And at no point pull back, like. [01:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely full strength. [01:47:23] Speaker B: Every time that dude was hitting Canadian Destroyers, like, with his son in a match. [01:47:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:47:28] Speaker B: A couple years ago. [01:47:30] Speaker A: Which is. [01:47:31] Speaker B: Which is a more athletic and lucha spot than he was doing evening here. [01:47:35] Speaker A: So. Yeah. Like, in case, you know, in case you don't know what Canadian Destroyer is. Liz, you're familiar with the pile driver where the guy gets the head between. All right, now imagine you did a front flip first. Uh, it's like the same. And so Ricky Morton was doing that, uh, a couple years ago still. It's like, don't. What? No, no, cut it out. This is a fun main event that just turned in is for, like. I don't even think we had a finish. It just. It fell apart because things fall. [01:48:08] Speaker B: There was a briefcase. I looked away. The match was over. I assume somebody. [01:48:12] Speaker C: Yeah, the briefcase connected with the back of somebody's head. Chris Benoit was. [01:48:15] Speaker A: Yeah, well, no, that's what it was. He tried to. He tried to throw the. The Halibur. That's what it was. Somebody tried to throw the briefcase at Renegade and it just missed. And. But they. Everyone sold it anyways. And I was like, this is weird. All right. Sure, it was a fun. It turned into, like, a dq. [01:48:34] Speaker B: It's live, pal. [01:48:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, this is live. This is Chinatown, Jack. Yeah, like, this is. We're just dealing with it and it's like, okay. Because, like, no one cares anyways. We're here to deal with the outsiders of it all. Like, it was a fun match, but again, it feels like they very. We know what we're here for. So we get Mean Gene talking to the Geldlings and Manga with a solid 15 second scream promo. God's help me if I get Mongo pilled again, I swear to God. I'm just saying, it's. [01:49:06] Speaker B: Are you off it again? [01:49:07] Speaker A: I don't like his wrestling. I never have. [01:49:11] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but he's bad, but at wrestling. [01:49:15] Speaker A: Yeah, but I enjoyed him in this match even, because, like, Liz said it was. And like you said, it was enduring when he, like, didn't know what he was doing. It was. It was. And then he had a good little 15 second screen promo. He did it real good. [01:49:32] Speaker B: Look, I did my part. [01:49:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [01:49:34] Speaker B: It'll be Mongo filmed. [01:49:35] Speaker A: I'm trying to get off it because, God damn it, Silent Arn says, you know, who knows who lit a fire in Benoit's belly? And I think to myself, the authorities never did figure. [01:49:48] Speaker C: I know. You know, and that's one of the ones. That's one of the ones that. [01:49:53] Speaker A: Sucks. [01:49:55] Speaker C: You see his face and you're like, oh, yeah, I remember how that one is. [01:49:59] Speaker A: Especially because, I mean, he's. He's out there hanging out with. With. With Nancy. Like, they're both in the same shot now, and they are gonna be getting together in story, and it's just like, it's happening, but not in, like, the fun it's happening way. It's. Oh, God, it's happening. [01:50:18] Speaker B: Awful. Awful. Foreshadowing. [01:50:19] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. It's definitely one of those, if I had a time machine kind of feelings. [01:50:26] Speaker B: But, yeah, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. Just not this time. [01:50:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, don't write it. [01:50:31] Speaker B: And maybe get out of the cuck chair. Let somebody else. [01:50:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Write a different story and maybe treat your wife better like that. Like, that would be great. And. And a lot of people would be alive still. [01:50:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:50:46] Speaker A: Yeah. The rest of this was. It was all right. I did have to take note that Ric Flair, in his attempt, everyone's trying to make silent but violent happen for Benoit because he doesn't talk a lot because he. He. He's not very good on the mic. And Rick turns to Jean and says, silent but deadly. And then proceeds. You see him, like, Jean, like, giggle to each other like, oh, I did a fart. [01:51:25] Speaker C: De Faith, though. Anyway. [01:51:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And, like, who are we to judge? All three of us are covering our face, cracking up because it's like, he did it. [01:51:38] Speaker B: You know? So, Gene, you get a pass on that? [01:51:41] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:51:41] Speaker B: No sending for the man this time. [01:51:45] Speaker A: The girls. The girls are excited to party with Macho's money. They're gonna try to get us away from joke that happened. They invite Gene back for debauchery, and we go to commercial with woman popping Gina owner. So all is right with the world because, like, I love when she does that to him. It just gets me every time, like, hey, come here, perverted old man. And he's just like, yeah, whatever you say. Yeah, great, great stuff. And then we go. We get to go home. Finally, Eric and Bobby take us surrounded by security, which is just like, what they do now. Yeah, we're heading in. Yeah, we're heading into Bash at the beach. And Bobby, he wants someone to call him to let him know who the third man's gonna be because he's nervous. [01:52:36] Speaker B: I want somebody to call me and tell me is. Is such a Bobby. They bring me in mind. [01:52:41] Speaker A: I'm like, you got a week. Someone get a hold of me. Like, I'm not coming in, but. Yeah, yeah, but someone. Would you figure it out? Let me know. The third man is the story of the night. And hold on, God. They are backstage causing trouble. And for the first of many times to come, we end Nitro with security leading the NWO out of the while. They kind of make donut jokes and honestly. Yeah. [01:53:06] Speaker C: Yeah. You know, that's. What do you say? Like, how many times, how many police, how many cops did they have? How much security did they have in there all night? [01:53:16] Speaker B: Yeah, like, for a whole, like, eight dudes. [01:53:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Eating popcorn and. And. [01:53:24] Speaker B: Drinking Cokes. [01:53:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Making. Making Al Pacino references. [01:53:28] Speaker C: It's not. Yeah, it's not very, you know, sorry. And there goes a car. I don't know if you guys can hear it. No, I'm on my back patio, so every once in a while I get a loud one and I have the best view. There's a lemon orchard right behind me. [01:53:41] Speaker A: So super jealous. [01:53:43] Speaker C: In the. In lieu of an office or, you know, any place to be by myself, I come out here. [01:53:48] Speaker A: I can take. [01:53:49] Speaker C: I can enjoy your company. But yeah, it's just I. I had to laugh because I was like, man, it's like all. Every. If you want to find a toxic masculinity trope, watch wrestling. You're gonna fight it. You just checklist. Yep, there they go. There they go. [01:54:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:54:05] Speaker A: This week especially, like, I thought last. Last week we got the worst transphobia we have gotten so far and possibly the worst we're gonna get at least for a good long while until they start dealing with the china stuff. So six months. So we got a good six month breather. But I was like, you know, maybe it could possibly be rock. Can't be as bad this week as. As last week because last week they, they just straight up had a guy in a dress, you know, kind of transphobia, and it was gross. And then they, they did this and it was just. I can't even like, thank you, Liz. Thank you. That. This is where we've come to the end of the show where I thank the guests for coming. And I feel like I am here going like, like, like throwing myself. Thank you. And I am so sorry that you had to get here for this one. [01:55:03] Speaker C: You know me, I'll always take them. [01:55:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say you're. You're. [01:55:06] Speaker C: Then I have something to bitch about. [01:55:07] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. [01:55:10] Speaker C: Oh, I'm like, I am the whiner in chief. [01:55:13] Speaker A: So you know what? You're good at it. And you know, we love having you. And. And absolutely there was plenty to whine about this time. But also, you got. I got you some meaty men, you. [01:55:27] Speaker C: Know, and yes, there was some really fun. Both of them. [01:55:31] Speaker A: I mean, come on now. [01:55:33] Speaker C: My goodness. Like, seriously, I. And it could be me. Like, it could be me. And the fact that I was just so distracted by the two of them that I was like, I missed fight. [01:55:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Nope, that was me too. I didn't. I couldn't even like, hi. [01:55:45] Speaker B: Hey, how you doing? [01:55:46] Speaker A: Yeah, like, it's. [01:55:47] Speaker C: It's like when I put on a movie behind my work, like, I know what you're playing. [01:55:50] Speaker A: Yeah, there's something going on but like I'm more curious than what's happening here. And yeah, I'm, I'm an easy, easy gay mark. So that being said, all seriousness, thank you for being here. Thank you for coming back. You've you. [01:56:06] Speaker C: Oh it was so much fun. I love hanging out with you. [01:56:08] Speaker A: To you. Yeah. Any old time I'm Mike or not. When I get done here I get to edit you talking to some other friends for a different show. So yeah, it's gonna be. Oh it's gonna happen again. It's, it's lining up when I didn't don't mean for it to but we're gonna have back to back weeks this week. You're gonna be on the most important election of our lives. Check that out. Coming out. We'll have come out by the time this comes out because this comes out a week later. Yeah. So it's. It's Liz Action at Ghost Coast Radio is what's happening. It's Liz week. [01:56:40] Speaker C: Oh, so I get to feel important. [01:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Hell yeah. As you should. And we get. We had you talk about a little bit at the top but I'm gonna give you another opportunity. Tell people where they can find things if you want them to find your things. And and what I like to say most of all is where can my listeners send you money? Where can they buy. [01:57:05] Speaker C: Yes, no, I'm, I'm there. My. I think my link tree is actually on Blue sky. If you want to follow. If you want to. If you're on Blue sky follow or come check out theshark, queen.com and blue sky and I actually have a Patreon now all of the money in the Patreon or my Kofi which is just se rent on Kofi but all of the money from the Patreon is going to pay artists and writers for my next anthology volume two of Curious or Curiouser which will be kickstarting in October. But so that my co creators, the people who are so kind as to contribute to my work, don't take on any of the risk of the Kickstarter. I'm trying to pay them ahead of time. So we've got. I got my first goal of 5,000. A generous soul filled it. [01:57:50] Speaker A: Oh wow. [01:57:51] Speaker C: So I was able to pay everybody up to now and now I've got to do the second half and pay. I've got the first half of my illustrators money. Now I need to come up with my cover artists money. So on the Ko Fi is a $3,000 goal for the second half. Or my Patreon, if you want to read stories, see a little bit of smut sometimes, see some art. My Patreon is under SE Ransdale. [01:58:18] Speaker A: Heck, yeah. Well, thank you, everyone. Go do the things. Give. Give the monies. God damn it. I appreciate it, and I appreciate y' all for listening. And, Piper, appreciate you for the co hosting duties. I. I think anytime. I think it's. [01:58:34] Speaker C: Thank you so much for having me. [01:58:36] Speaker A: Yeah, any old time. I think next week is Hampter's turn in the hot seat, so. Oh, heck yeah. And thank you all for continuing to listen. A year in, it's still a little weird, but I love you all. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. And we will see you next week for more Raw versus Nitro. On Monday night, Fake fight. Okay, bye.