Episode Transcript
[00:00:07] Speaker A: In the beginning, the earth was a dark, formless void.
But then God spoke and said, let there be wrestling.
And with that, there was Monday, and wrestling happened on Mondays. And God looked upon her works and said, holy shit, that's a lot of racism in video packages.
On the second day, God got depressed and lo did she post about it on the DVD VR forums. And with that, there was Tuesday.
On the third day, God said, let there be Wednesday, and lo did the people reply unto her.
We know what that means.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: Hey all editor Piper here. You're not used to hearing me this early in the show, and that's because it's not a normal show. It's a big one, for good and for bad.
And unfortunately, we're gonna start with the bad.
I'm sure many of those listening have seen this week's episode of Dynamite, and those that haven't will certainly hear about it on this episode. But I'm here to give a content warning for for this week's Wednesday Night Fake Fights.
There's some heavy stuff that's discussed, topics of assault and abuse. And I want to warn y' all listening that it's gonna get a bit heated.
But before we get to that, friend of the pod Silent had some words to share that sum up what we hear at Wednesday Night Fake Fights feel about the latest episode and things as a whole.
[00:01:44] Speaker C: I've been trying to collect my thoughts to some degree. I've mostly just been trying to stop feeling so sad and angry.
I was there last night in Everett, surrounded an arena full of people just absolutely out of their minds happy for and celebrating for Darby Allen, who is alleged to have coerced a past significant other into sex.
He had apparently threatened to harm himself unless she would perform sexual acts with him.
So she alleges at least the official I don't even know if it would count as an official story. The the line that I suppose that that has been fed to most people is that Darby Allen shared screenshots of text messages with Tony Khan, which alleviated the concerns that Tony Khan had.
It's hard to imagine what could honestly be contained in those that would really make those allegations.
Like, it would have to be kind of an absurd. Like just her flat out stating that like, oh yeah, I was lying. So like, it's just hard to imagine something like that existing that would really completely alleviate any concerns like that.
Other issues with Darby Allen notwithstanding, like, this is something that I have loved for a long time. Professional wrestling AEW has been mostly very fun to watch and engage with.
It's hard to come back from an experience like that.
It's hard when you interact in online fan spaces who are so unwilling to engage with the possibility of these allegations have carrying any weight to them, either disregarding out of hand the possibility that they are true, or oftentimes arguing that what was described would even constitute rape. That apparently is actually fine to threaten to harm yourself in order to get someone to sleep with you.
It's so hard to just enjoy media because so much of it is created by watchover, by people who take advantage of the powerful situations that they find themselves in.
[00:05:00] Speaker D: And
[00:05:03] Speaker C: it had felt like AEW was a little bit more
[00:05:08] Speaker E: was a little
[00:05:11] Speaker C: bit less burdened by that knowledge than WWE certainly is.
But with Darby as champion, I really don't see how that still holds true.
And I don't really know how to interact with aew, certainly not until Darby Allen is no longer the face of the company.
And I don't really know what more to say about it than that.
Believe survivors understand that, you know, many survivors of rape and sexual assault and sexual abuse, you know, many more of them than you think you likely do.
Because in order to just sort of exist normally in this world, you just kind of have to push through and not bring it up in most circumstances.
And that sucks.
And yeah, fuck Darby Allin. Fuck Tony Khan. Fuck Eaew.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Thank you Silent.
And now for the good Bugs Matrix and Mia Moore are here as our first non horse people guests of the pod.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: How cool is that?
[00:06:40] Speaker B: It's gonna be a slobber knocker of an episode this week, folks. But please do remember, listener discretion is advised. And now enjoy Wednesday night Fake.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: Oh wait.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: Ella's probably just going to introduce the pod. I don't actually have to do that.
[00:06:55] Speaker E: Welcome back to Wednesday night Fake Fight.
I It's me. It's Ella.
I'm talking about the AEW dynamites making yalls. Problem with my favorite Wrestle Queers. Wrestle queer number one. Introduce yourself. Go.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: It's the Russell queer who's always here. Oh, that rhymes. It's Erica Warren.
[00:07:14] Speaker D: Hi.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: I. I didn't mean to do that, but I did it because I'm here every week.
[00:07:20] Speaker E: Yeah, this is fair. You literally drive this this sicko bus.
For the time being.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: I have no idea why.
I know. I know why.
[00:07:30] Speaker E: Yes, because we're the sicko part was mentioned. And also this week, yo soy after Sarah didn't realize what was going on and made plans with their mother. So. So they're not here.
Instead.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Hello, Mrs. Hampter Sero Avid Listener, I've been told.
[00:07:49] Speaker E: Oh, Jesus Christ.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Oh, no. That's.
[00:07:52] Speaker E: Oh, God.
Oh, no.
Mrs. Hamper Sero, I'm so sorry for what I've done to your child, but we have replacements. Wonderful replacements, wonderful people. Former friends of the Monday show. Well, one and a new person. Get excited. It's a tag team. We have Bugs Matrix and Mia Moore. Hello. Say hi.
[00:08:16] Speaker F: Hey. Howdy. Hey.
[00:08:18] Speaker D: I'm the wrestle who can't ride a bike. Am I supposed to do that?
[00:08:22] Speaker F: The wrestle tech that can't ride a bike? That's pretty good.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: That's good.
[00:08:25] Speaker E: That's pretty good gimmick, actually.
[00:08:26] Speaker D: Yeah, write that down for way too long. It kind of took.
Hi, I'm Mia.
[00:08:32] Speaker F: And I'm Bu.
You know me from Internet.
[00:08:35] Speaker E: From Internet.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: Yes,
[00:08:39] Speaker E: y' all are here to yap graps, but more importantly, you are here to yap something else entirely.
Something possibly even greater than grabs. Please let us know what you're here to yap about.
[00:08:54] Speaker D: Well, we made a movie called Again. Again, that we've been working on for the last, like. I mean, I wrote it five years ago, shot it three years ago, and now it's finally. Finally premiering next month in May at the Seattle International Film Festival. And I'm freaking out.
[00:09:12] Speaker E: Why?
[00:09:13] Speaker F: Why in particular are you freaking out right now?
[00:09:16] Speaker D: Oh, I mean. Well, right now I'm freaking out because our tickets actually went on sale earlier today, and I said, hey, let's do this podcast to promote. You know, that we have a screening debut coming up, and we sold out in four hours. So I don't actually have a screen to promote at all.
[00:09:33] Speaker F: No, I think we can promote that. If you want the movie. It sounds like the people want the movie, Mia.
[00:09:39] Speaker D: The people want the movie.
[00:09:40] Speaker E: You got to give people what they want, Mia. It's wrestling logic. That's. It's a rule.
[00:09:45] Speaker D: I guess we should tell people what the movie is, and then we'll give them a call to action. You don't give people a call to action before giving them a logline, do you?
[00:09:53] Speaker E: Oh, right. We should write that down.
[00:09:55] Speaker F: I mean, you don't just, like, lead people blind into a cave.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: I do.
[00:09:59] Speaker E: Depends on the people. Depends on the people.
[00:10:01] Speaker A: It depends on what I do here.
[00:10:02] Speaker D: Well, here's your log line. Or here's your call to action. If you want my movie that you don't know what it's about to come to your town, you should get 30 of your friends together, go to your local movie theater, and tell them, hey, we want to see this Movie. And you should send an email to again again moviemail.com and we will come to your tiny little town.
[00:10:26] Speaker F: Location, location. Entering your location with great haste and a great movie. Mia, tell them what the movie's about.
[00:10:33] Speaker D: Now.
[00:10:34] Speaker E: That was a good time.
[00:10:35] Speaker D: Yeah. So I. I was the writer and the co director and the producer and the star of Again Again and Bugs was one of our associate producers and she did catering on set and she.
[00:10:47] Speaker F: I did.
[00:10:48] Speaker D: Is really good at that.
[00:10:51] Speaker F: I want occasionally I can cook occasionally for many people. It's a lot of fun.
[00:10:56] Speaker D: Yeah, you would cook meals for like 20 people at a time and you're good at that.
[00:11:02] Speaker F: Thank you.
[00:11:04] Speaker E: That's the best way to cook people meals, in my opinion. But what's the movie about? That's a tangent. We can't tangent too hard.
[00:11:10] Speaker D: Yeah. So Again Again is the story of Agatha, who just spent 10 years reliving the same day over and over and over again in a time loop, like a Groundhog's day style time loop.
And the movie starts the day after she breaks out of it.
So suddenly all of her actions have consequences and she's like a real person again. And she has to sort of face up to like, oh man, everything I do, people are gonna remember and just learn how to be a real person again.
And it's a cool little queer love story and it's a sci fi movie and it's a drama and we shot it in a motorhome in my mom's driveway. And
[00:11:52] Speaker E: I love everything about that. And I don't know if y' all could see. Yeah, people at home can't see.
Could see the look on my face as I just was just smacked with gender
[00:12:07] Speaker A: pile.
[00:12:08] Speaker E: Driven by the gender as you describe this movie to me. And I go, I don't know anything about what that feels like. What are you talking about?
[00:12:16] Speaker D: About.
Yeah,
[00:12:19] Speaker F: this whole thing does kind of reek of gender.
[00:12:22] Speaker E: Kind of smacks a gender, as Drill would say.
[00:12:25] Speaker D: Yeah, well, it's so funny because originally I. I had written like three screenplays before this. I think this was my third or my fourth screenplay that I wrote. And so originally all of my movies were just about trans stuff. It's like, oh, what about this and what about this and what about this? And it's all very, very trans.
And this one, my original draft, I was like, I'm going to write something about two CIS women.
And then I think it just came around to a point where I was like, if I'm going to make this in my mom's Driveway, then I'm going to star in it and it's going to be about a tranny. Like, come on.
[00:12:56] Speaker F: Yeah, it's got to be. And I think, I think that adds such a fun dynamic to like the queerness of it.
[00:13:02] Speaker E: Well, yeah, that. I mean, if I, if I may say so, if I may interject and add my 2 cent.
[00:13:09] Speaker D: Go for it.
[00:13:10] Speaker E: That blows my mind that you're, you said that you wrote that for two CIS women because like I'm just like, oh my God, that's the most, that's the most like trans sounding thing I've ever heard of. Like all of a sudden realizing that like you, you're in a place where everything you do from now on you want to be remembered. You know what I mean? Like all of a sudden I'm a person for the first time in a way that has consequential and, and in a way that I want to stick.
Like, like that's, that's something that, that's the gender in that I feel. But much like, much like other science fictiony gender films that have happened in, in the recent past, you, there's non gender ways to read that though. Like that, that the same thing. And I, that's awesome. I, I literally cannot wait to see it. That's still fantastic.
[00:13:59] Speaker F: It's really damn cool.
[00:14:01] Speaker D: Yeah, and it's really fun because it's like a sort of dynamic between the two lead characters, like Agatha, my character, and then her partner is like one of them is somebody who's been like this trans dyke for the last like all of her life, you know, for the last 30 years. And this other woman is somebody who just like her best friend since she was a child, like just professed her love to her and they ran away together and so she's been like some flavor of queer for a couple of days and then that's where the time loop starts. So for one of them they've been dating for 10 years and for one of them it's been two days and she's honeymooning and so they kind of, you know, butt heads but they're in love and it's, it's awesome.
[00:14:47] Speaker E: Okay, so when are you coming to Minneapolis? Yeah. Yeah. I cannot wait to see this.
[00:14:51] Speaker D: When are you coming to Minneapolis? So you have to go to your local theater and tell them to email me at again, again moviemail.com.
[00:14:58] Speaker E: all right, I, I'm going, I'm, I'm going to be so annoying at the, I'm gonna like ask around and be like, what's the theater that's most likely to have, like, the best time with us.
[00:15:09] Speaker F: The trial would probably be pretty good.
[00:15:12] Speaker E: You think? Yeah. All right, good. I was gonna say. I forget. You're. You're. You're. You're a Minneapolis baby. Hey.
[00:15:18] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:15:19] Speaker D: What do you guys call yourself? Do. Like Minneapolis. Trans women have a name?
[00:15:23] Speaker E: Oh, I. I always just called. I did. Always. I do have a tendency to call this place Trinityapolis.
[00:15:30] Speaker F: Yeah, I've seen some graffiti that says Trinitypolis.
[00:15:34] Speaker E: It's a thing. God rest. I was gonna say rip Trans Stifa. That shit's still everywhere. I still occasionally see one of her pieces.
[00:15:44] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:15:45] Speaker E: Unfortunately, I feel like as. As more stuff gets.
Gets actually fixed in this city as far as construction wise, more and more of them are disappearing.
Which reminds me, I gotta get my bike out on Greenway and see if the one's still there.
But. Yeah, God, Minneapolis fucking rules. And I can't leave my apartment without running into family.
Like, we're fucking everywhere here. We are fucking everywhere.
I can't walk a block without seeing a fucking tranny. It's amazing.
[00:16:17] Speaker F: It's so sick.
[00:16:19] Speaker E: It's so fucking sick.
[00:16:21] Speaker F: It's like, oh, my God.
[00:16:26] Speaker D: Does it ever feel like you're like. You know that spongebob episode where Squidward moves to the city? That's all Squidward.
[00:16:34] Speaker F: We have canned bread, but it's estrogen.
[00:16:37] Speaker D: I'm not canned enough for these people doing all the same stuff and talking about magic, the gathering, and professional wrestling.
[00:16:48] Speaker F: Yeah.
Approaching your location.
[00:16:54] Speaker E: I wasn't. I wasn't literally in a gaggle of trans people heckling the local ring announcer at the local BFW show full of, like, four people.
Oh, my God. That was. I. I still like, oh, my God. I can't remember if I've talked about that on. On the mic or not, but, like, we just found a great place to sit and it's like me and Topanga and a bunch of Topanga's friends and. And we're all neurodivergent queer and wrestling fans for the most part. Some of them, I think, are cis. Ish. Won't hold that.
Yeah, that's the vibes. I was kidding, but I don't think anyone listen to the show. But it was a great show because it was. This was happening mid occupation, which is still going on, but that's a different podcast I'm recording on Sunday, so. And it was when Brody. So, like, I don't know if y' all saw because we're. This is a Great transition. Yay. I'm good at those.
I literally will never get tired of that joke. It's a staple on this show. It's just like George C. Scott's ghost.
[00:18:06] Speaker F: So
[00:18:09] Speaker E: what are you talking about? Do I gotta do the estrogen again? No, not this week, George. I did it this morning. We're good.
I've literally made that character shoot estrogen on the show. I'll do it again.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: Character.
It's just people doing a gravelly voice, pretending to be George.
[00:18:30] Speaker E: Pretended to be the ghost of George
[00:18:32] Speaker A: C. Scott because he actually talks that way.
[00:18:35] Speaker E: Oh, God. So. Ah, my balls. All because of a Simpsons bit. Yeah, because wrestling and Simpsons are interlocked.
So point being, this was happening when Brody King, who is this awesome AEW wrestler from la, when they, when they started doing ice in LA super hard, they were doing a prom, a cross promotion thing with cmll, which is the oldest professional wrestling promotion in the world, and it's Lucha libre. So they were literally in Mexico City in like one of the biggest wrestling pro wrestling arenas in history.
And this big motherfucking dude who barks at people walks out in a balaclava in a fucking abolished ice shirt in arena Mexico while Trump's like unleashing war on his home city. And it's just like, well, that's the hardest motherfucker who ever lived is what that is.
And so Brody King, whether we like it or not, he is the antifa super soldier of our time.
So this thing happened because they then did occupation here, this thing happened on TV where him and mjf, who we'll talk about in a bit here, we'll get to the show, I promise.
Were having a feud.
And they. They weren't in Minneapolis. Right? They. I forget where they were when this happened.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: Denver. They were in Denver.
[00:20:02] Speaker E: Denver. They were in Denver when. Yeah. Good call. Thank you, Erica, from being the professional here, autism brain.
Hey, I smoke too much drugs for that to work still.
So the. They were in Denver and like they have this face off in the ring and before the belt. No one's touched each other. No one said anything.
Brody just walked out. But what we didn't realize is that literally before the show start started, there was announcements going around on social media that Brody had donated. I think it was like 50, $58,000 to rent relief efforts in Minneapolis.
[00:20:39] Speaker F: Holy real.
[00:20:41] Speaker E: No Kings. But Brody King is, is. That's why. That's the statement of this show forever and ever.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Because he, he funded it with. He had an abolish ice shirt. Like specifically. Yeah, yeah, he was selling that. So all the proceeds went to the. The rent assistance.
[00:20:57] Speaker E: Yep. So he. He's been doing that for. For stuff in, like, LA and stuff. And this latest batch went to us and, like, he went around. So when he came out, they have not even touched each other. You can find video of this on Blue Sky. It's so great. And the whole crowd just starts chanting, ice. Like their lives depend on it. And like.
And like, mjf, who's trying to be this dastardly heel, is left in this place where. Where all. What can he do, even in character, but literally do the gym from the office. Stare into the camera like, they really hate y', all, you know, like.
And it became this iconic moment that even the normies found out about, because then John Oliver brought it up on his show of, like, look what happened at the wrestling show. And everyone's like, we thought that was fascist. And we're like, no, that's the other company. Please come.
There's gay here. They do gay here sometimes.
[00:21:53] Speaker F: We're not in any way affiliated with the Department of Education.
[00:21:57] Speaker E: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We all hate those guys.
And people, like, were realizing in that moment that. That wrestling, especially indie wrestling, is super woke, actually.
So. So this VFW show we went to, we had like, like 500 normies in it, and it was raising money for Smitten Kitten, the Sex Toy Shore, that.
Doing all this stuff for the Resistance.
So there was some hearty ice chance there. But, like, the point of the story is that we took the seat up front. It didn't occur to me that, like, we're right up next. We're basically on stage and we're all heckling the out of John, because that's what you do at a first wrestling show. You heckle John.
But, like, realizing that all of a sudden that we're, like, starting chances because we're, like, up front by the stage and everyone can see us. And I'm like, oh, this is. I'm, like, eating potatoes. And I'm like, oh, this is. No, But, yeah. So that's our transition. Ice into wrestling.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Ice into wrestling.
[00:23:06] Speaker E: Ice into wrestling. Folks, we will tell you again to go to theaters and do the thing at the end of the show. But we are here not just to tell you to watch Mia and Bugs movie, which you should, because. Holy.
I want it so bad now. I'm so jealous. I want it.
[00:23:25] Speaker D: She'll absolutely come to Minneapolis because I feel like that's like, Bugs lived there for so long and know so many people.
Crazy not to go.
[00:23:33] Speaker E: Yeah, I will, like. We'll talk off mic if you need people to, like, push it and shit. I know a girl.
I got. I got an E bike and it's nice out. I will, like, fly her. I don't give a.
So we should talk about. Aw. Wrestling, though, because that's why we're here.
So thank y' all listeners for letting us have an extended opening bit. We don't normally do that if this goes a little long.
So. Sorry.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: I mean, it's a little bit above, like, you know, it. Anti Italian racism from last week, but, you know.
[00:24:09] Speaker E: Yeah. Oh, God. Maybe we'll get back into it. Hampter didn't realize they made Italian wrestlers.
And I was like, his name's Tommaso Chapa. Like, what do you think?
[00:24:19] Speaker A: What was going on here?
[00:24:21] Speaker E: That's not his name.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: Name.
[00:24:22] Speaker E: No, it's Tommy Choppers.
[00:24:24] Speaker F: All right.
[00:24:24] Speaker E: Anyways, Erica, I'm gonna get out of the. The seat here. You want drive?
[00:24:29] Speaker A: I guess I will.
[00:24:30] Speaker E: We're gonna start doing a recap of the show. Y' all feel free to interject with whatever thoughts you had.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:39] Speaker E: Or did not have while watching this sport of Queens, if you will.
All right.
Yeah. Right. Take it away and.
Oh, yeah, there should. There was already a content war.
I'm. I'm me. I put it in there.
So we're gonna try to have joy. I'm. I'm going into this with joy in my heart.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: I think I'm gonna be gone by
[00:25:04] Speaker E: the end of it.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: I'm gonna. I'm gonna not be mad about it until the end.
[00:25:09] Speaker E: That's where I'm at. And then I'll get real mad.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: Anyway.
Dynamite. April 15, 2026, in Everett, Washington. I had a whole thing about a five foot tall shrimp that some lady saw in a basement back in the 40s. But it.
[00:25:26] Speaker E: Who gives a.
Yo, we're skipping Cryptic Corner because we had extended.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Extended that was more important than Cryptic Corner.
[00:25:34] Speaker E: All right.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: Cryptic Corner.
[00:25:35] Speaker E: Awesome. Can y' all do this every week so that we never do Cryptic Corner again?
[00:25:40] Speaker A: Oh, no. Next week we're in Portland. There's still plenty of that I can do from the Pacific Northwest. You all right?
[00:25:45] Speaker F: You got Bigfoot up there.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: That's pedestrian.
[00:25:50] Speaker F: Yeah. Oh, he walks everywhere. Of course. He's a pedestrian.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: Exactly. He's boring.
Not when there's. Here's a preview. Bat Squatch.
All right.
[00:26:02] Speaker F: Single.
[00:26:03] Speaker E: All right, that's next week. That's next week.
[00:26:05] Speaker A: MJF Maxwell Jacob Freeman. He pulls up in his car and
[00:26:11] Speaker E: he has not been taking any calls.
[00:26:14] Speaker A: Yes. What?
[00:26:15] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, it's important setup that Renee lets us know that. That MJF has not been answering any emails, phone calls, anything. He has not responded to socials. He has been. He has. No, he's coming in blind.
[00:26:29] Speaker A: Yes, that's important. So, yes, on Sunday he. He. He won the main event and retained his title. And then he did what all of us desperately need to do. He logged off and touched grass and didn't look at the Internet for like five whole days, I guess. 3. Sunday.
[00:26:45] Speaker D: Did he just gain the belt on Sunday?
[00:26:48] Speaker E: He retained against.
[00:26:50] Speaker D: Oh, he retained. Okay, okay.
[00:26:51] Speaker E: But he retained against like the greatest of all time. Understood like a kind of.
[00:27:02] Speaker A: This is going come back to life.
No, he pulls up.
[00:27:09] Speaker D: Do you think Bonesaw is canonically dead or is it just.
[00:27:12] Speaker E: Just face Randy Savage.
[00:27:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:15] Speaker E: Lives on forever.
He. He fought Kenneth Jerome Omega, Kenny Omega, the God of pro wrestling, and he calls himself the devil. So that was the big thing they did. It was very thematic. It was exquisite. It was so gay.
Anyway, so that's. That's the context you need. He's feeling himself because he like, he beat the guy who the company's named after, basically. So he's feeling real good about himself, essentially.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So like our. Our lovely interview Renee. Interviewer Renee is waiting for him and she wants to ask him about Darby. He says, I don't give a. Because he's beating everybody.
He beat Adam Page and he can never be the champion again. And he beat Kenny Omega and kicked out of Kenny's finisher, the one winged angel.
[00:28:07] Speaker E: All right, sorry.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: Anyways, and then. And then known he'll Dick, or as we like to call him, Dick Slit Jones arrives, congratulates Max.
Max calls him the mensch of the cinch.
That was so like. Because. So he.
[00:28:25] Speaker E: I like that. I like that. Call me that. That's the thing. Yeah, you call me that.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: He lets us know at this point that like, you know, he reminds us he's been offline for three days. And not only that, but he did not watch the rest of the show that he main evented. So he doesn't know that the guy he paid off to kill Darby Allen, failed in that. And Darby gets a title shot.
[00:28:48] Speaker D: Is that why Darby was on that mountain? Because they thought that he would die of exposure?
[00:28:54] Speaker E: That I wish. No, Darby was on that mountain because boys would rather climb Everest than go to therapy.
And I don't know. I wish the air had been thinner.
I don't know if that's Piper, I'm gonna leave.
I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave it up to you to. To ring bell what you feel you need to ring bell throughout the course of this.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Feels like I'm breathing through a straw.
[00:29:19] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: What movie that was. Yeah. Renee is, like, just tries to shout at Max, get his attention, let him know Darby's challenging for the title tonight.
[00:29:29] Speaker F: What the.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: Right now? And. Yes.
[00:29:30] Speaker E: Right, like, literally right now.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: So, yeah, the moral of the story is never log off.
[00:29:38] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:29:39] Speaker F: Never keep posting.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Keep posting through it all the time. Never stop.
So, yeah, we come down to the Ring Diaries, making his entrance crowd. This is sort of a hometown crowd that. It's not Seattle, everyone. And Everett wants us to know this is not Seattle. It's Everett.
He makes his entrance. Crowds going ballistic.
[00:30:00] Speaker E: I think of. I think of the no Kings rally and the fact that it took place in the capital of my state. And literally, Bruce Springsteen and every one else was like, hey, Minneapolis. And we're all over here. Like, not us, but thank you.
[00:30:17] Speaker F: We've earned this one.
[00:30:19] Speaker E: Yeah, sure. No, St. Paul did good, too. We all helped is all.
I got neighbors everywhere there.
Yeah. But no, they just keep calling it St. Paul. I guess that this happens every time they go to Everett. They're like, we're in Seattle. And our friend Silent's like, no, you're not.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: So, yeah, Darby comes out and he's, like, crying.
He basically cries for the whole segment.
[00:30:48] Speaker E: Oh, my God.
[00:30:48] Speaker A: Max comes out in his suit.
[00:30:50] Speaker E: I wonder what this could mean.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: And he's just like, fuck all this. He's rich. He doesn't have to have this happen. He's gonna sue Aubrey, the ring announcer, Tony Khan, all of the state of Washington.
[00:31:04] Speaker E: I don't want to. I will. Hold on. I don't want to jump over these specific.
The specific things that. That Maxwell said here, because it's important to me as a human being.
He does slander Renee. He does slander Renee and calls her name. That's no good. He refers to Justin Roberts, the ring announcer, as a pervert. And he is Google.
I mean, that guy.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: I mean, if you're texting somebody you're having sex with and you're like, I want to. Your face. That's like, maybe consensual.
[00:31:39] Speaker E: Okay, but how old's that person that you're texting?
[00:31:42] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know the specifics of that one.
I just know that we've been calling him the Face for, like, a decade at this point.
[00:31:50] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:31:51] Speaker E: Don't don't look up. Don't look it up. If you'd want to continue not wanting to punch him in the face.
[00:31:57] Speaker A: I mean, I kind of wanted to punch him anyway, just on principle.
[00:32:00] Speaker E: Let's. Let's put it this way. I don't care if it's a legal age in the uk. That's children. Anyways. Continue.
Yep.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Yeah. That guy.
[00:32:10] Speaker E: I'm trying to save all the nasty to the end. Okay? But, like, Jesus, please. We need to understand that even though when we went from Mondays to Wednesdays, it got better, this is still wrestling and it's. What's.
What.
I forget who's. I forget who said it, but it's. It's. You said it in the chat earlier that it's kind of like the golden rule of wrestling. I don't know what to tell you. Some wrestlers are dumb as.
Like. Like. And that goes for bookers. Wrestlers, like, everyone in the bed. Some of these two people just suck. And, like, our.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Our POD motto is, I hate wrestling.
[00:32:50] Speaker E: Yes. But I love it so much. At the same time, I tried to find something positive, and there's lots of positive. Let's keep talking about the positive. This bit was great.
[00:32:58] Speaker C: Even.
[00:32:58] Speaker E: Even with Darby crying his little entitled ass all over the place.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: All right, so it was. It was very positive. Positives. Oh, there were audio issues with Max's mic, so he gets a new one.
[00:33:08] Speaker E: That was nice.
[00:33:09] Speaker F: That was funny as hell.
[00:33:10] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the real MVP of a W is there's always audio issues.
So, yeah, Max gets a new mic and tells Darby he sucks.
Very true.
[00:33:22] Speaker F: Yeah, like. Like, right up in his face. I was like, okay, okay.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: I was like. I thought he was reading one of my posts for a second.
[00:33:31] Speaker F: I'm opening Twitter right now. Darby.
[00:33:34] Speaker E: Darby starts crying harder because he knows it's true, and he's just like, yeah, look, look.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: This dumb on blue sky says you suck.
[00:33:46] Speaker F: Blue sky, Darby. Blue sky.
[00:33:49] Speaker E: We don't even put their posts on the tv. They call them Skeets Darby.
[00:33:55] Speaker F: They skeeted about your ass.
[00:34:03] Speaker E: Yeah. Yeah. Damn right, George.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: All right, all right. So Darby continues sobbing, and he gets the mic and he says it takes one night to drop the company on his head. And he was hanging posters around the town for some reason, because they're not. I don't know why they would hang posters. They're not some indie show. They're like a major company.
He brought the company.
[00:34:23] Speaker D: If you want to get the crowd on your side, then you have to go out and personally invite old ladies at the grocery store to come to your show. Like, even if it's a big show, if everybody there is there for you, then, you know, they're all.
[00:34:35] Speaker F: Springsteen does this weekly.
[00:34:37] Speaker E: Yeah. He lives in St. Paul now.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: Oh, yes. I'm not allowed to say anything bad about Bruce from where I'm from.
[00:34:46] Speaker E: Yeah, you're gonna catch some slack over here right now. I've never been. I haven't always been, like, a yay, Bruce Springsteen guy, but we give him. We love him now. He's good.
[00:34:55] Speaker A: He's fine. Whatever.
[00:34:57] Speaker F: He's fine. He's fine.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: I gotta see his name in the rafters. If I ever go to the hockey arena here, which hasn't.
[00:35:06] Speaker D: Can I say something about the technical issues in. In this stream now, or should I say it later?
[00:35:12] Speaker A: No, please.
[00:35:13] Speaker D: Because it's a doozy from my experience of watching this show.
[00:35:16] Speaker E: Oh, okay. Yeah, please do. This is why I say interject with any notes you have. This is what I mean.
[00:35:22] Speaker D: My stream was, like, really donked up to the point that the entire time, I was basically watching, like, eight frames a second. Like, everybody's moving at, like, 40%. And so every single hit in the entire show looked like everybody was, like, moving in slow motion and kind of, like, pushing each other like toddlers. I did not see a single, basically. And there was no fixing it. And it was constantly going out of sync.
I think this is my Internet.
[00:35:49] Speaker E: I don't think I was on the
[00:35:50] Speaker F: phone with her the entire time, and she's.
[00:35:53] Speaker D: It was.
And I would be hearing everything in, like, the way that it's supposed to sound. And so I'd hear somebody go, like, a big, like. And then, like, the crowd cheers, and it's just two guys, like, grappling and touching each other. And then I'll see him throw them on the mat. Like, 10 seconds later, I'm like, okay, I have to restart the stream again, because that was not right.
[00:36:11] Speaker E: Oh, my God.
[00:36:12] Speaker F: Again?
[00:36:13] Speaker E: So you again, again.
Coming soon to a theater wherever.
[00:36:16] Speaker D: And I. I watched the entire thing. I spent, whatever, eight hours of my life watching this or whatever.
No, I was watching it live. So I watched it.
[00:36:27] Speaker F: We watched it. Yeah. No, I was on a call with her. We were watching it on hbo. And, like.
[00:36:31] Speaker E: Yeah, I did not have trouble on hbo.
[00:36:34] Speaker F: Yeah, I know.
[00:36:34] Speaker D: It's. It's My. My Internet is really bad, so I guess that my. I was just being punished by the universe.
I stuck it out, so. So to me, it's very hard to say because I'm not a wrestling fan. I'M not somebody who's watched a lot of it. And so it's very hard to say, like, what this was supposed to feel like. It kind of felt like I was having a weird fever dream, and it was like, you have an assignment about this wrestling match tomorrow, and I have no idea what's going on.
[00:37:03] Speaker E: That's a question I usually. That's a question I usually asked on the Monday show, and I haven't done it in forever. That I forgot to ask. And I forgot because Bugs has been on before.
But normally, normally we ask, like, what, if any, is your relationship to wrestling? Are you. Are you coming into this entirely blind?
[00:37:22] Speaker D: I have never seen a wrestling match. Like, I've never watched one on tv. I've never seen one irl.
[00:37:29] Speaker E: Oh, wow.
[00:37:30] Speaker D: I understand through cultural osmosis, like, what a heel is, what a face is, and, like, I can throw out, like, bones on the grasp.
And that's about the extent of it. I've seen.
[00:37:43] Speaker F: Seen Gremlins 2.
[00:37:44] Speaker D: I've seen Gremlins 2, and I've seen.
Was it no holds barred or over the top?
[00:37:51] Speaker A: Wait, which was whichever one had David Arquette.
[00:37:55] Speaker D: I've. I've seen both of Ready to Rumble. So I saw the movie where.
Yeah, I saw the movie where, like, wrestling is real and Hulk Hogan just kills the wrestling. Like, the guy who, like, set up the match by throwing him into a power line and electrocutes him to death.
Yeah, I've seen no hold.
And I've watched. I've watched Hulk Hogan's Rock and wrestling, the 80s animated series. I watched, like three episodes of that. And I played Godzilla Destroy All Monsters, which is a wrestling game with Godzilla.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: Really fun. I love that one.
[00:38:30] Speaker D: What else? When I was a kid, I used to go to the demolition derby all the time. And that's kind of like.
Yeah, like. Like redneck monster trucks. Like, that's all like $2,200 piece of beater cars, and they, like, smash them into each other.
[00:38:46] Speaker E: I would literally do a podcast about demolition derby. I love it so much.
[00:38:50] Speaker D: I. You are going to that again again? Because we go to the demo.
[00:38:54] Speaker F: They're the derby. Yeah.
[00:38:56] Speaker D: Smashing into each other for, like, it's like a whole. Like, 15 or 20.
[00:39:00] Speaker F: It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing.
[00:39:02] Speaker D: It's a major plot.
[00:39:03] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah. Like.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: Like, oh, my God, I can't watch this movie right now.
[00:39:10] Speaker E: I know. Can we just.
[00:39:11] Speaker F: Demolition wrestling.
[00:39:17] Speaker D: My brother and my uncle and my grandpa were all demo derby drivers, and my. My aunt dated one for a While. So.
[00:39:23] Speaker E: Jesus, Mia, you're like. You're.
[00:39:25] Speaker D: You're too redneck royalty. Yeah, that's right. No Kings, baby.
[00:39:28] Speaker E: Let's go, let's go.
Okay. Brody King and. Well, yeah, Eddie Kingston, too.
[00:39:36] Speaker F: That's.
[00:39:37] Speaker D: My experience with wrestling is no experience ever having watched AEW or wwe, but I think cultural osmosis and having lived the life of a wrestler.
[00:39:47] Speaker F: Yeah, you're kind of. You got like a. You're kind of a baby face in your own right.
[00:39:53] Speaker E: Yeah.
Bugs, you're a tweener, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You give me a little gremlin vibes. You got know you got a little Juice Robinson in you.
He's my emotional support gremlin guy.
He wasn't on the show tonight, unfortunately.
[00:40:15] Speaker D: So sorry for the tangent, but that the technical issues thing seemed, like, important to bring up so that you guys understand the experience of. If I don't know what's going on, if you guys are telling us something, it's because I tried to watch it and I failed very well.
[00:40:29] Speaker F: You literally didn't see it.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: That is, I. I am here to tell you about things that you apparently didn't see.
[00:40:36] Speaker D: Yeah, of course.
[00:40:37] Speaker E: That's why we have Erica Drive, because I know for a fact that there are listeners to the show who sometimes I'm like, is it weird that we do, like, such a detailed recap, but there's listeners to this show who don't have time to watch all this wrestling, but listen to our show and get to, like, recap what happened in fair amount of detail sometimes, most of the time, like, our editor talking about you, Pip, who doesn't have the time to watch the show, but, like, gets to experience it, like, just through listening to us. And that's why I'm like, you know what? It's.
People like it.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: I'm terribly sorry.
[00:41:14] Speaker E: Yeah, I got. I gotta stop trying to fix something that's not broken. People listen to our show. What the. Ella, shut up.
So, yeah. Thank you for driving, Erica. All that to say thank you for driving.
Thank you, Mia, for letting us know. Yeah. For letting us know that you had such a rough time. I'm so sorry.
It's all good.
[00:41:33] Speaker D: I'm. I'm happy in here. And shockingly, there's been no technical issues on this podcast, so.
[00:41:38] Speaker E: Oh, good.
Fantastic. No, that. That's actually. Yeah. Hell, yeah. Good to know. But, yeah, that. So. Oh, God. The worst thing is it probably ruined the magic for. You saw that they're not actually hitting each other.
[00:41:51] Speaker F: Yeah, it's.
[00:41:52] Speaker E: It's it's fake sometimes.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: It really did.
[00:41:55] Speaker D: It really did look like.
Like they were just moving through sludge. Like, moving through honey. Like, it really was not impressive in any way whatsoever. And I really bummed out because I wanted to be. I didn't want to, like, come on the show and be like, wrestling sucks. Like, I wanted to be into it. I did have fun, but also, I don't know how I had fun because it was insane to try and watch.
[00:42:18] Speaker F: Well, because. Because you were hearing me react and, like, that was.
[00:42:22] Speaker D: We were talking about it and goofing around all the time, too.
[00:42:24] Speaker E: That's amazing. So, like, we have, like, layers of experience here. Like, you're in that You're. You experiencing osmosis through bugs.
So, like.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Oh, well, then I. I will definitely try to paint a vivid picture when necessary.
I would be the alt text, if you will.
[00:42:43] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. Don't feel like you have to hit every spot, but we will be here.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Every spot. We're gonna be here.
We're doing this. Get some coffee on
[00:42:55] Speaker E: another one.
[00:42:55] Speaker A: We'll just. We'll just speed up a little bit. So, yeah, dark, like, Max is, like, off. And then our commentator, Brian Danielson, gets on the mic and he says that the owner, Tony Khan, just let him know that he agrees with Max. Max isn't ready to wrestle, so it'll be the main event.
And Max has to put his gear on or he'll be stripped of the title. Darby tells him he'll beat him with a headlock. Takeover, which deeper Lord. Max has beaten Darby twice with that move.
[00:43:25] Speaker E: So, yeah, that's the whole thing. And it's like a basic wrestling story that's there. So when he beats him the way he beats him later, that's their attempted. Like, we did storytelling. And I'm just over here like, oh, we got it. We.
[00:43:40] Speaker F: We gotta save our thoughts for that.
[00:43:41] Speaker E: Yeah, we'll get there. Oh, my God. We'll get there anyways. Yeah, keep driving. Keep driving.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: Yep. They give us a little video, a little video from Sunday where after Kenny Omega has lost, he goes to the trainer's room and his buddy Will Osprey is there. This is all very, like, homoerotic how this all played out.
And they're both like, oh, man, I'm old and busted and I suck now. And they both try and pick each other up and they're like, oh, man, you. I. I got into wrestling because of you, Kenny. You're my hero. And Will kisses him on the forehead, and it's all very strangest.
[00:44:18] Speaker E: Thing I've ever seen.
[00:44:19] Speaker F: It's just like, these men are barely wearing clothes.
[00:44:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is what straight men do when they're off time.
[00:44:28] Speaker E: They're both covered.
They're also covered in the sweat of other men, too. Like, I feel like it's important that we add that.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:36] Speaker E: So there's a. There is a mix of. Of men going.
[00:44:39] Speaker F: It's a menagerie.
[00:44:40] Speaker A: Menagerie.
[00:44:41] Speaker E: A men nage.
[00:44:42] Speaker F: A men nagerie.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: A manager.
Okay.
Sorry. I'm bad at this.
[00:44:53] Speaker E: Oh, it's beautiful.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: You're my hero. Will Ospreay says and kisses Kenny on the head. And it's all maudlin. And he walks away. And Kenny says, maybe. Maybe. I can't give up. It's pretty gay. That's why this is where the gay wrestling podcast.
[00:45:11] Speaker E: No more. No more. No more cameras. I have to be gay a little.
[00:45:14] Speaker A: I have to be gay.
[00:45:17] Speaker E: I'll be in my bun, literally.
[00:45:19] Speaker A: All right, so we're like half an hour in. Oh, maybe not quite half hour. And we finally get to.
[00:45:23] Speaker E: Let's maybe have some wrestling.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: Yay.
And it's got Ellis, favorite wrestler. Thompson Chompington Jr. Vs. Desmond Xavier. I call him that because I hate the guy. Well, I don't hate the guy. I just don't like him.
[00:45:38] Speaker E: I think he's neat.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: I think he's fine.
I think it's better to call him Tommy Chompers or Thompson Chompington when he's a bad guy. And he's a bad guy right now.
[00:45:49] Speaker E: I do think that he kind of looks like when spongebob's like, real dried out.
[00:45:54] Speaker F: But yeah, he does kind of just look like meat made human.
[00:46:00] Speaker A: Somebody waved a wand over a stick of beef jerky and said, you're a real boy now.
[00:46:06] Speaker F: Go fight.
[00:46:07] Speaker E: Yeah,
[00:46:10] Speaker F: give me that title.
[00:46:11] Speaker A: Desmond Xavier is part of a group called the Rascals. And they like weed. That's their bit.
[00:46:19] Speaker F: I loved their gas station weed. Branding was. I love it.
[00:46:25] Speaker E: Watching them come out, I was like, they're Cottonmouth Kings. If the Cottonmouth Kings were stable. Does anyone remember the Cottonmouth Kings or is that just me?
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:33] Speaker E: Listeners at home, do you know what a Cottonmouth King is?
[00:46:35] Speaker A: I can't answer you because we're recording.
Oh, yeah. I broke the fourth wall.
[00:46:41] Speaker E: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:46:43] Speaker A: So, yeah, Chompers just starts kicking.
[00:46:45] Speaker E: Sorry. But yeah, well, no, no, I don't wanna. I don't want to cut bugs all the way off. Finish your thought. Bugs. But yes, they're like Cottonmouth Kings stable in that they're like, yeah, no, I was just.
[00:46:56] Speaker F: I. I love their gas station weed aesthetic. It's giving. Like, I. I've had edibles that look exactly like that. I love. Like, I was. I was sold on these men immediately. I'm like, hell y.
I like that they don't.
[00:47:10] Speaker A: They don't try and hide it. They're just like, we're the weed guys. Yeah, we do the weed.
[00:47:13] Speaker F: We're the weed guys. Like, smoke them all, dog.
[00:47:17] Speaker E: We're the weed.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: We are weed. We're the weed guys.
[00:47:20] Speaker E: I'm stereo. It's stereotype. Like, it's. I've. So I don't like to think myself as, like, a stereotypical stoner, but God damn, do they delight me because I'm just like, yeah, I used to hang out with you guys 20 years ago.
It's amazing.
[00:47:38] Speaker F: Great that there's just this genre of man. And now they fight.
[00:47:41] Speaker E: And now they fight. They do really cool. That's the only thing. They're all really good.
[00:47:46] Speaker F: Yeah. Like, it was. It was a fun fight. Let's. Let's
[00:47:51] Speaker E: get to the bat.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: So, yeah, Chompers gets a hold of Desmond and just starts kicking the. Out of them.
Unfortunately, that's the trans. I was. I was watching a pirate stream of this because my Triller doesn't work anymore, and it sounded like somebody was like, finger the mic the whole time. I don't know if that was, like, audio issues or if that was the streamer, but it sucked.
[00:48:13] Speaker E: I think that was the streamer.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: That was probably the streamer. Yeah, he's, like, going to town on that thing.
[00:48:21] Speaker E: The high speed is. What do you mean?
[00:48:24] Speaker A: Yeah, Chompers.
[00:48:25] Speaker E: We were all watching this legally on hbo.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: I pirated. I don't give a Come at. Come at me. Hbo.
[00:48:33] Speaker D: I literally was watching it legal. Well, I was using Bugs's mom's hbo.
[00:48:39] Speaker F: Yeah, it counts.
[00:48:40] Speaker E: We count those.
[00:48:41] Speaker D: But, yeah, once or twice. Like, she's family, so I think it's okay.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that's okay.
[00:48:46] Speaker F: Shout out Mama Bugs.
[00:48:48] Speaker E: Mama Bugs.
[00:48:49] Speaker D: Yeah, she's. She's the queen bee. No kings, though.
[00:48:53] Speaker E: No kings.
So. Yes.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: God, where are we? All right. Yeah, they're just, like, doing flips. And then Xavier's not getting much luck, and he's trying to, like, get out of the ring, and Chompers just goes after him and he throws them against the stairs. So he just does, like, a little somersault over it, which is kind of cool.
And then he gets some kicks and it gets a big dive, and the crowd Starts to chant bald at Tommy choppers commercial. And I don't know what they share on HBO during the commercial, but like, if you're watching the. It's commercials, you just get. They just keep showing the match.
So, yeah, they. He gets on the mic and he tells everybody, stop calling me bald. Save that for Ricochet, because, yeah, Ricochet's gimmick is he's bald.
[00:49:49] Speaker E: And we like to let him know because that's the wrong guy. What the.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: And those high tension cables we call ropes.
[00:49:58] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:50:00] Speaker A: Tony narcs on Tommy Chompers when they come back from commercial about him yelling at the crowd.
[00:50:06] Speaker D: Have you guys ever been. You guys have been to like, live matches, right?
[00:50:10] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:50:11] Speaker D: Have you. Have you ever compared, like. Like what is going on when. When they cut to break and they come back in action as in media res. Like, what is going on in the room? Are they just hyping up the crowd? Are they continuing to grapple with each other or do they like.
And drink some water?
[00:50:31] Speaker E: No, the match continues. It's. It's. Yeah, it's like a live.
[00:50:36] Speaker D: They put all the most interesting stuff. Not when the commercial break is happening.
[00:50:40] Speaker A: Yes. Like, I basically glossed over everything that happened in the commercial because nothing really happened.
[00:50:46] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:50:49] Speaker D: Sometimes they'd cut commercial and everybody would be like, on opposite side of the room and they come back in and he'd have them like, end already. And I'm like, okay, I guess that's the match. Oh, wait a minute. What's happening?
[00:50:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that happens sometimes.
[00:51:02] Speaker E: Yeah. Because it's all. Because that's the thing that's cool about wrestling is they're also playing to the live crowd. Like, they can't. If you're playing just to tv, it's a shitty product, wwe. So you gotta care about the people in the room because, like, it's. That's the point. It's. That's the show.
[00:51:22] Speaker D: Right?
[00:51:23] Speaker E: Yeah. So they keep going. That being said, there's things called rest holds. You know, like you get a guy in a. A chokehold that in re. In real life, if someone had someone in a rear naked choke like that like really cinched in, they'd be passed out in like 15 seconds. Like.
[00:51:42] Speaker D: Like, it doesn't take one of these wrestling guys. It takes like 12 minutes.
[00:51:48] Speaker E: Because what they're actually doing is in commercial and catching their breath and that's. But they ring it in and they sell it and they act like it's really intense for the crowd there, but they're actually resting.
[00:52:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:01] Speaker E: So a lot of submission holds that would normally like, you know, if you get like a leg ankle lock in an MMA match, you tap immediately, otherwise he's going to break your leg.
Or the. But you know, in wrestling they'll hold that for five minutes and sell it. But really you're catching your breath. It's a rest hold. So that, that's kind a lot of what happens during mostly during commercial breaks. That's when you would. They would be like, okay, we, the ref would be like, we've gone to commercial back. All right, throw me in something.
[00:52:30] Speaker D: You know, time where you come back from a commercial and you're like the, the majority of the interesting stuff in the match has just happened and we completely missed it and it's pretty much over at that point. Or do they always sort of know how to play it to. To the TV audience as well? Because that's the main amount of people who are going to be watching.
[00:52:49] Speaker E: I say more. In the 90s there's a match, there's a formula now.
[00:52:52] Speaker A: So the formula match formula is basically that the match starts, the face gets some offense in and then the heel gets the advantage. And when the heel gets the advantage, they go to the commercial and then the heel works the heat during the commercial. So get like the crowd on the baby faces side.
So like whether that's rest holds or crowd work like Chompers did in this but when they come back like they. The baby fix makes his comeback and then they sort of will have like a second match there where like they'll go. It'll be more back and forth. But yeah like it's like every. You can always tell when they're about to go to commercial.
[00:53:34] Speaker E: Yep. Yeah, because that and but back in the 90s that what you're describing would happen more because they were that kind of live wrestling on TV was like brand new. Like, like outside of super Cards and stuff in the 80s that they would do in like specials, Saturday night main events, stuff like that. A weekly live show didn't exist until 1996.
So that kind of stuff happened more because they were still figuring out what the to do. But now it's more like Erica described. Like they know you know you can go commercial because no one's going to give a to see the. The heel get his heat except the crowd because then when the camera comes back, the crowd's reaction looks so huge because he's been getting him worked up the whole time you were gone.
So like yeah, it's all, it's all, it's all Theater. It's all play acting. It's all theater. That's.
I'm so gay. I love it. That's why I love it so much. It's, it's just, it's theater and fighting. It's so, so cool.
That's why I love wrestling.
But yeah, I hope that answers your question. I, I've never been to like a, a TV taping show. I've been to like local shows.
[00:54:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:53] Speaker E: But I know like mostly how they work and like, yeah, Erica pretty much nailed it.
So. Yeah, I feel like not a whole lot happens in this match. He like.
[00:55:05] Speaker A: No, not really.
[00:55:07] Speaker E: I wanted, I want to love Tommy Choppers because I love Tommy Choppers, but the crowd didn't really give a about Tommy Choppers. It was a fun enough match, but he had like, no eat.
[00:55:23] Speaker A: I've been saying this at this point.
[00:55:26] Speaker E: I, I Look, look. No, I, he had heat. It went somewhere. I stand by this.
You, Erica, you stole it. You stole Thomas.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: I'm right. And I got Hampter on my side last week.
But yeah, like there wasn't really like a whole lot to it. Like they did have like a little bit more of a back and forth. So like the, the face hit a lot of his cool moves. Like he tried doing a big 450 splash and Champa hits his big power bomb lung blower. That's project ch.
I can't say Champa. I just say Chompers now for so long, he's more, that's more over than he is.
But yeah, then he gets, he finally gets that. Finally gets his, his big power bomb back breaker thing and they pulls the knee pad down. Just kicks the guy in the face and that's it. And our winner is Thompson Chompington Jr.
[00:56:23] Speaker E: Yes. It was about it.
Yeah, I was gonna say go smoke something about a kid, but Thompson Choppington III is like not that old. Junior. Like that's the thing that freaked me out. Like, look up that guy's age and it's like, dude, drink water.
[00:56:43] Speaker A: Yes, please.
[00:56:44] Speaker F: Hey, how old is he
[00:56:47] Speaker E: now? I gotta look it up because I remember thinking like, he's got to be older.
Yeah, but like that he looked.
[00:56:54] Speaker F: That's a dry.
[00:56:56] Speaker E: That's what I said. He's 40. And it's like I thought he was like pushing 50, right? Like I thought he's been at it like a, a hot minute. Please drink some water.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: He's under the like tanning bed so long he dried out his beard or something. I don't know how that works.
[00:57:13] Speaker E: He's frazz. Yeah, that's the other thing. Condition your beard, honey.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Like, it looks so dry. It looks so dry.
[00:57:22] Speaker E: Yeah, I know, I know. Ask me how I know.
[00:57:25] Speaker D: It makes him, though. Like, you don't want a guy out there with, like, a really fancy. Well, maybe you do. I don't know.
[00:57:31] Speaker E: You don't.
You don't know my life.
[00:57:33] Speaker A: I mean, fancy lad. Fancy lad can pull it off. There's lots of guys with, like. Like the curly wax mustaches that.
[00:57:41] Speaker D: Yeah, but if this guy came out there as a fancy lad in the next match after having done what he's been doing this entire time, I feel like everybody would turn on him.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: I would love him, probably.
[00:57:50] Speaker F: Or would he turn them on?
[00:57:52] Speaker D: Would he come out? He'd have, like, a wood pipe and, like, a robe and he's, like, reading
[00:57:57] Speaker E: Walden and he becomes. Actually becomes Thomas.
[00:58:00] Speaker A: If he became entertaining. Yes, I would love that about him.
[00:58:03] Speaker E: You're so mean, Erica, you're so.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: I like the way Mia thinks.
[00:58:09] Speaker F: Yeah. No, I think. Yeah. I'd watch Thompson Chompington.
[00:58:12] Speaker D: I just think that if. If a bunch of wrestlers came out reading books and they. They all just would, like, have a little discussion about, like, oh, Dickens or like, something like that, like, at the beginning of every match, we could. We could win this literacy crisis thing.
[00:58:28] Speaker F: Like, so hear me out. Hear me out. Plato, but jacked history here.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: Usually the smart guys are the bad guys. They always come out.
There was a guy whose, like, gimmick was, I'm the Dean.
[00:58:43] Speaker F: Awesome.
[00:58:44] Speaker D: Everybody hates the Dean.
[00:58:45] Speaker A: Everybody hates the Dean.
[00:58:47] Speaker D: Oh, was there, like. Was there, like, a girl who was, like a party girl and all that she wanted, like, a frat boy wrestler that would go up against him? Or was it, like, adult men that were like, oh, I hate that Dean.
[00:58:57] Speaker E: There was literally a wrestler called 1, 2, 3 kid who was in a love triangle with the Dean and a drug dealer by the name of Razor Ramon.
[00:59:10] Speaker A: You're making it sound cooler than it
[00:59:14] Speaker E: was, like, buying for they were vying for the future of this young mind.
Okay, that's awesome.
[00:59:24] Speaker F: That's sick as hell.
[00:59:25] Speaker D: That being like, when planet does an anti drug psa, it is important that
[00:59:32] Speaker E: you know that Razor Ramon was a white man from Florida. That's neither here nor.
[00:59:37] Speaker D: There's a lot of drug dealers in
[00:59:38] Speaker A: Florida, but he was doing impression of Al Pacino doing an impression of a Cuban.
[00:59:45] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:59:45] Speaker F: That's crazy.
[00:59:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:48] Speaker E: Razor Ramon. Okay. Yeah. It's terrible. Not okay. Not okay.
[00:59:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:54] Speaker E: Again, reason we don't do the 90s show anymore. It's, as we say in the intro, it's just racism and video packages.
So anyways, speaking of video packages, there's a lot of them this week.
[01:00:06] Speaker A: Chompers gets the mic, tells us that he's going for the world title next.
Good for you, buddy.
[01:00:12] Speaker E: Sure.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: Sure, buddy. You're.
[01:00:14] Speaker E: You're Honestly. Given how this ended, Fucking give it to him.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: But we'll get there. That would make me somehow more upset in a different way.
[01:00:22] Speaker F: No, no, I want to see that. I want to see that.
[01:00:24] Speaker A: Not more upset.
[01:00:25] Speaker F: Differently.
[01:00:26] Speaker A: Yeah, different upset in a different way.
All right, so, yeah, then we get a little. Speaking of video packages, here's a video package about Darby, how he.
[01:00:35] Speaker E: I'm good at translation,
[01:00:40] Speaker A: Rich.
[01:00:42] Speaker E: And refused to die and do the right thing.
He got hit by a bus. A city bus at one time. We need bigger city buses, and they need to go faster. Okay. I'm running for council and have spikes on the front.
[01:00:57] Speaker F: Mad Max.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:59] Speaker E: Again, Piper, feel free to. I don't know if any of that is actionable. I leave it to you.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: I don't think Piper hates us.
All right, so there's not a match. Next, we get a. We get a lovely little promo for. From our world tag team champions, FTR and Stokely Hathaway. And they. They beat Adam Copeland, who was known as Edge in WWE for like 25 years.
And his.
[01:01:26] Speaker E: And daddy.
[01:01:27] Speaker A: His fake. Yeah, daddy Christian, he used.
[01:01:31] Speaker E: Up until recently, he had a stable that was literally called the patriarchy.
This whole thing was that he collect. He collected wrestlers who had dead dads.
[01:01:42] Speaker A: He was either collecting them or he was feuding with people whose dads were dead. And he's usually like, hey, I heard you had a father, and your father is dead.
[01:01:56] Speaker E: He literally wrestles in a turtleneck with no sleeves on. He's like the.
He's the greatest. I love him so much.
[01:02:04] Speaker F: King, sir.
[01:02:05] Speaker A: Unfortunately. Anyways, he's not here tonight.
AKA Dax has been reading the chatter online, and you really don't want to do that. Apparently, everybody's mad because FTR won. But they. They love underdogs, but they can't relate to underdogs because they're just losers. Fat losers. Just like Copeland and Cage.
And they had a brush with relevancy and they couldn't get the job done. And they'll never get another shot at the belt. And two hall of Famers,
[01:02:39] Speaker E: guy.
It's such heel.
[01:02:43] Speaker F: I love that they were. They. I love how much they were pissing people off. I was having fun with them.
[01:02:48] Speaker A: Great. And then their manager, Stokely.
[01:02:51] Speaker E: Really easy to hate. Ftr.
Yeah.
[01:02:54] Speaker A: So much fun.
Big St. The mic. Crowd chants no hoes, Adam. Because one time he said his life was miserable because he was bald and had no hoes.
But you don't need hoes when he has the tag team champions. True that.
The Chickos know about everything, so they must be familiar with David versus Goliath. FTR are Goliath, and everybody is a wannabe David. And every time David steps to Goliath, they get bitched out.
And he knows Tony Khan will go sign every chud possible and they'll all fall to the Giants. Ftr. And that was. That was awesome. I love that.
[01:03:38] Speaker F: It was the. The moment of silence.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, yes, we have the moment of silence, which he talked through the whole time.
[01:03:52] Speaker E: Oh, and I love how they end it with, no, not five second pose.
[01:03:57] Speaker A: No, no, no.
[01:03:57] Speaker F: We're gonna give you guys 10 seconds.
Cameras, boys.
[01:04:01] Speaker E: To which FTR gun did not hold the pose. He posing.
[01:04:07] Speaker F: They did not. That pissed me off.
[01:04:08] Speaker A: I posed it long enough for me to get a screen cap of them all doing the the Arrow tombstone meme, because that's what that was when Stoker's laying down.
[01:04:22] Speaker E: Thank you again. Thank you for being the professional
[01:04:27] Speaker A: professional. I had nothing better to do with my time, but write this and watch the show.
God, somebody give me a job. Oh, God. So we have another match, and this is for the TNT Championship.
And the brand new champion, Kevin Knight. He won the title at Dynasty, the pay per view on Sunday.
And he's wrestling the giant, terrifying Swiss man who breaks the laws of physics, Claudio Castagioli.
[01:04:59] Speaker E: Not human.
[01:05:00] Speaker A: He's not human. I've been watching this dude since, like, 2005, and he does something insane every match I see him in.
[01:05:09] Speaker E: Like, yeah, bugs. Mia, how do you feel about the Swissman?
[01:05:13] Speaker F: He was intimidating.
I mean, like, that's like. I was. I'm like, what the fucking Rocky 4 is going on here?
[01:05:27] Speaker E: No, he's. Yeah, No, I will break you. Yeah. No, he's just terrifying with a European uppercut. Like.
[01:05:33] Speaker F: Yeah, I know. I'm like, all right.
[01:05:35] Speaker E: I'm like, he is like the. Every single person who wrestles with. Like, if you talk to wrestlers and ask who's the strongest person they've been in a ring with, you're mostly gonna get Claudio or maybe Mark Henry, but Mark Henry also is. Isn't human.
[01:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:53] Speaker E: Mark Henry and Claudio are. Are like X Men. Like, there's something wrong. There's something different about those two it's terrifying. He.
[01:06:04] Speaker A: He is, he is very.
I. I did see him at an indie show once. It was like a family friendly show.
And he heard somebody in the crowd say. And he said, family friendly. Watch your language. And that guy's just like, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
You got it, sir.
[01:06:24] Speaker D: You think the guy in the audience was like, I want to be yelled at.
[01:06:27] Speaker A: Like, I want to get fed by Swiss Daddy.
[01:06:30] Speaker D: I am like, breaking kayfabe. Am I not supposed to be doing that?
[01:06:33] Speaker E: Yeah, by all means.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: I mean, as long as you don't tell anybody that the ghost of George C. Scott isn't here and that we're not in a giant theater right now. So we're good.
[01:06:43] Speaker D: So I had a question. I was asking Bugs about this yesterday. I do. Do wrestlers ever, like, break kayfabe to be like, I threw that match because they told me I had to, but now I'm back for revenge? Like, has that ever happened? Or do they always, like, stay in the world of like, ooh, you cheated or whatever?
[01:07:04] Speaker A: Oh, so.
[01:07:05] Speaker E: So.
So around the turn of the century in wcw, things got real bad.
Has it been done before? Yes. Should it ever be done again?
No, no, no, it's bad. They tried it once and it was just like, what are you. No, no, it's.
It became so.
Josie Reisman has a book. We talk about her a lot.
Friend of the pod adores her.
Has a book called Ringmaster that's about ostensibly a.
Well, it's a, you know, Autobot, or not auto, but a biography of Vince McMahon, but it's about, like, way more than that.
And she talks about Neo K Fab, which is this thing that happened in the 90s where you start to kind of blur the line because the Internet exists and you can't.
Beholding kayfabe like you used to and there's no real reason to anymore.
And they realize you can get more business by leaning into the fact that people are starting to know about what's happening in behind the scenes.
So you lean into that and you blur the line and you get Neo kfa, where if you do it really well, it makes for excellent storytelling where you. You lose track of what is real and isn't. And that's kind of the magic of wrestling.
If you do it most of the way it's done, it sucks and it's exploitative and it's terrible and it's. And it's the Fed again, I swear.
Not. No, it's the Fed. It's. They're awful. They take Saudi Money. They can eat dicks in hell.
It's.
It's not great. So, like, it's come and gone in waves like they do sometimes, but it never goes well. But we live in now this place where, like, everyone knows it's fake.
Now you get stuff, though, like MJF, who does what we refer to as the. The 79 stink. He's like an old school heel where he'll do. He'll do.
Where everyone on the Internet is like, oh, my God, I can't. Like, did he really do that?
[01:09:25] Speaker D: Like, you know, like, give an example. Like, you don't mean, like, the thing where he came out in this one and he was like, I'm gonna get my lawyers in here.
[01:09:36] Speaker E: The one I always think of is the Tequila. Where. Oh, were you gonna say the tequila one? Because I always think.
[01:09:42] Speaker A: I know I was thinking of one because I was just talking with somebody about this today was.
He was trying to get into a stable called the Hurt Syndicate because he wanted them to be backup because they were like a bunch of large, terrifying, large men, and they. He wanted them to be his backup. So he tried to bribe them, and one of the ways in which he bribed them was he's like, hey, I got you some escorts.
That's not something you really see in modern wrestling anymore.
[01:10:12] Speaker D: Right?
[01:10:12] Speaker E: That's the 90s thing.
[01:10:13] Speaker A: Back in the 90s, there was a guy named the Godfather who had the ho train.
[01:10:17] Speaker E: Who's just a pimp. He was just a pimp. They would literally
[01:10:24] Speaker D: lose by saying, like, well, if you lose this match, you can sleep with Audrey.
[01:10:28] Speaker E: Mia.
Mia. He quite literally, they would go to the strip club of every town they stopped at, and they would pay up a bunch of dancers to come out in the literal ho train who would come out with him, and he would have a gaggle of sex workers come out and do exactly what you are describing on a mic.
[01:10:51] Speaker D: I want to be on the ho train.
This is my calling in life. And maybe I missed my moment, but if I ever find a time machine, you will see me on whatever that was.
[01:11:07] Speaker E: Monday night Raw. Yeah, Like a night episode. Like 1998. You're like, holy. Is that Mia?
[01:11:14] Speaker D: She's not around anymore because she went back in time. She became a sex worker in the 90s, got murdered, but got to be on the ho train. So.
[01:11:24] Speaker E: Holy.
[01:11:25] Speaker D: I got to be on an episode of svu.
That's about it, though.
[01:11:32] Speaker E: Damn.
[01:11:33] Speaker D: Actually, if you look. If you look hard, you can see her. And. Oh, I forgot the documentary. I was about to Reference ballroom culture in New York in the 90s. In the 80s.
[01:11:44] Speaker F: Paris is burning.
[01:11:45] Speaker D: Yeah, you're gonna have to go a
[01:11:47] Speaker F: little bit further back than 98 for that, dog.
[01:11:53] Speaker E: Oh, fantastic. But again, happy to answer your. I'm so happy we can.
I missed this about the Monday show.
We got to talk about the Hoe Train. Oh, my God.
[01:12:03] Speaker D: Wait, so. So the. The guy that you were just talking about was involved in that, or he would do something.
He.
[01:12:11] Speaker E: The guy we were talking about. His whole gimmick every week was that. But we're talking about MJF did this to try to get into the Herz Syndicate, and the Internet reacted. So, Erica, as you were saying, like,
[01:12:25] Speaker A: the Internet, for some people, that was like, this is too much for 2025. But, yeah, so this.
[01:12:32] Speaker E: They obviously don't know MIA.
But, yeah, so they're like, this is too much. You can't do this.
This is too edge. Lordy. And. And the thing is, there's.
This is the point I wanted to make. There's a difference between being an edgelord and Darby and being a heel.
Mjf. Probably one of the greatest to do it, in my opinion.
And that's the other thing, is he openly admits that what he. His character. He's doing ric Flair. He's doing 70s Ric Flair.
Like, 70s 80s Ric Flair. He is said as such. That's only. Only Jewish, basically. That's why he calls himself Big Heman. Like that. It's amazing. I love him so, so much. He's amazing, and as far as I can tell, I'm a good dude. So, like.
Like, it's that kind of thing where, like, he'll do stuff that is horrible and horrendous, and he'll do it off TV or he'll do stuff like that and then get into fights with people on the Internet in character. And then people react as though he's not in character and. And confuse that, and it's like, no, he's.
[01:13:42] Speaker F: That's incredible heel work.
[01:13:44] Speaker E: That's what I'm saying.
[01:13:46] Speaker F: That's like getting. That's like getting mad at, like, an actor for playing a shitty person, dog.
[01:13:51] Speaker D: No, well, that's. That's fair. But Hannibal Lecter doesn't come in my Twitter replies to be like, well, that's
[01:13:58] Speaker F: because he's dead, dog.
[01:13:59] Speaker D: Eat your dick with a side of Bianchi or whatever.
[01:14:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[01:14:03] Speaker F: No, but if. If you. Hannibal Lecter, you would love Twitter.
[01:14:06] Speaker E: Oh, come on. Yeah.
[01:14:08] Speaker A: Rip Lecter would be a great poster. Yeah.
[01:14:12] Speaker E: Yeah. So, yeah.
Holy to a Whole nother level.
So. Yeah, that's.
I hope that answers your question. I forget what it was, but. Yeah, like, that's.
[01:14:24] Speaker D: Thank you.
If they ever get K saved to say, like, I threw that match on purpose.
[01:14:30] Speaker E: Yeah. Oh, my God. We were. I ranted way too long, but, hey, look, there you go. This is the fun of it. I missed introducing newbies to wrestling. It's a. It should bring this back as a separate show.
Anyways, we got through it because. Holy. What a wow.
Continue. Continue driving, Erica.
[01:14:50] Speaker A: I will continue.
Yeah. This match ruled.
[01:14:55] Speaker F: Yeah, it did.
[01:14:56] Speaker E: It was really great.
[01:14:57] Speaker A: Kevin Knight's, like, a young guy. He's like. He's pretty strong, but, like, his. His main thing is, like, he's a high flyer.
[01:15:03] Speaker E: He's.
[01:15:03] Speaker A: He's the jet. He's the jet.
[01:15:05] Speaker E: And gravity doesn't work on him. Like, it doesn't. He does things. He does, like, his. Someone with his physics. I've literally, like, went in and tweaked his physics.
[01:15:17] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:15:18] Speaker E: Yeah. Like, literally, we've seen him do a double jump in real life.
Like, it's like he double tapped. How do you. You can't. What did he jump off of just now? But he did it.
So. Yeah, that. This is him and Osprey, and as soon as I literally. This is the one where I think I sent to you guys or I sent to Bugs, where I was like, this. Y' all are eating so good this week. Like this.
[01:15:41] Speaker F: Yeah, no, that. This was probably the highlight of the. Of the show for me.
[01:15:47] Speaker E: Yeah, absolutely. No, this is the highlight of the show for me. This absolutely was.
[01:15:51] Speaker A: I loved it. Yeah, like, it's.
[01:15:54] Speaker E: And that in Tech club. We'll get to that.
[01:15:56] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[01:15:58] Speaker F: Okay. In terms of, like, just physicality, this
[01:16:01] Speaker E: was the highest match. This was the match of the night.
[01:16:03] Speaker F: We'll say this was absolutely the match of the night.
[01:16:05] Speaker E: But Tekla, to. To quote Jen on. On Blue Sky. Oh, the woman you are.
We'll get there.
Drive, drive.
[01:16:15] Speaker A: I'm driving. I'm driving. Yeah, so.
[01:16:17] Speaker E: I know, I know. That's become the joke to me is that you are doing fine. I'm the one tangenting. Go, go.
[01:16:22] Speaker A: We have to tangent sometimes. We must tangent.
[01:16:24] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:16:24] Speaker A: So, like, the. The story of the match is, like, Kevin Speed versus Claudia's strength. And, like, they do this right away because, like, Knight gets in, like, a bunch of offense, and then Claudia just, like, picks him up like a child and slams him.
And, like, body. Like, a body slam is just. Everybody knows a body slam in wrestling, but, like, Claudio made It look. Look like it hurt. Like he put some stink on it.
[01:16:48] Speaker E: Everything Claudio does is. Is extra, basically, with yeah, emphasis.
[01:16:54] Speaker A: So, like, Knights just, like, keeps trying to fight back. So he gets, like, that big springboard arm drag off the ropes, and then he gets that big. He just jumps and does that clothesline to the floor.
Crowds going nuts because Knight's a local boy, too.
And then they go over, see, like, this is why. This is where I differentiate Claudio from champa. And being good because Claudio had awesome heat segment during the commercial. It was not boring.
[01:17:25] Speaker E: Oh, yes, please.
Oh, yeah.
[01:17:28] Speaker A: I mean, like, there's not any one specific thing to mention. It's just like, he's just.
[01:17:32] Speaker E: He just. He just did a better job.
[01:17:34] Speaker A: He just did a better job. So, like, he would let Knight get some little hope spots and then just immediately swat him aside and said, no, no, child.
[01:17:42] Speaker E: Jet, stop.
[01:17:45] Speaker A: Like, he.
He did that thing where he just, like, dead lifts Knight from the apron and just suplexes him into the ring, which just horrifying.
[01:17:56] Speaker E: He just keeps doing that. You can't do, like. You can't do that.
[01:18:01] Speaker A: You can't do it. So. Crowd is chanting for. See, this is how, you know, Claudia did his job. Crowd is chanting for night. They're chanting, let's go, Jet. When they come back, right? When they come back from commercial, he gets in a couple pinfalls. And Knight is also freakishly strong because he manages to catch Claudio.
[01:18:23] Speaker E: Oh, yeah.
That was nuts.
[01:18:28] Speaker F: That was.
That was sick as hell, that.
[01:18:32] Speaker E: And there's only one other spot that I really thought of that was, like. Wanted to make sure we touch on, because I think it's. They. I think that it could have gone better for them, but I saw what they were going for, and it was wonderful. But, like, Claudio's big thing is the European uppercuts, But when he does it, we should just call him uppercuts, because, you know, that's redundant. So the whole point is, it's like an uppercut with your bicep, and his hurt real bad.
So at one point, they're on the top rope.
I'm assuming you're getting to this relatively soon.
Yeah, yeah. So, like, they're on the top rope, and they're, like, vying basically for control to see who's gonna do what crazy move. Because, like, it starts because Claudio's gonna do his finisher, basically, which is.
What is he called? I forget what it's called. The neutralizer.
Neutralizer. Where he.
[01:19:29] Speaker C: He.
[01:19:30] Speaker E: That's where he's, like, grabbing him in between his Junk. And he's got, like, his head between his junk, and he's just gonna lay down.
But Jet gets out of it because. Holy. And they, like, continue to buy for further.
And eventually it looks like he's gonna try to suplex Claudio. And instead, Claudio, being a monster, just kind of, like, picks him up and just tosses them like, a piece of paper, like, into the air and then jumps into him with his forearm.
[01:20:03] Speaker F: Yeah, like, that was, like, superhero.
[01:20:07] Speaker E: Like, what the man see.
[01:20:10] Speaker A: Like, I think. I think they actually say it Spot, because Night Night was gonna go for, like, a move up top, and he kind of slipped, and Claudio caught him. Like, I think he saved his life, maybe.
But then he proceeded to just, like, he held him by the waist and then just, like, walked back up the ropes, like. Yeah, that was freaking monster of a human being. God, if he's such a thing, could he can be called that?
Oh, God.
Say, like, Night Night tries to get, like, a dive off the ropes, and he gets caught into a back breaker, and Claudia gives him that big, giant swing.
He tries to. To do a. A sharpshooter that's blocked slingshot. Knight just lands on the top rope. It hits his big springboard Lariat.
Claudia's down. He goes up and hits his finisher, which is that UFO splash where he, like, twists around in midair and is facing the other direction, which is.
[01:21:10] Speaker E: Yeah, it's a 180. It's a 180 frog splash. And it's again, one of those things where, like, that's. That's just doesn't know, like. Like. Like that it's Tony Hawk pro skater physics. Yeah, it's like, I can see the points.
Yeah, you can see.
Yeah.
Now do a kick flip, you know, like. Like, what the are you doing, bro? Like, and thankfully, he won it with that, because that.
I love how they are.
[01:21:40] Speaker A: Are.
[01:21:40] Speaker E: Are setting him up as a. As this kind of beast that, like, that UFO splash puts dudes down and, like, putting Claudio down clean like that in a title match.
[01:21:52] Speaker A: Big deal.
[01:21:54] Speaker E: Big deal. Big hometown for me for sure.
[01:21:58] Speaker A: He gets on the mic and he said he thanks the hometown crowd for coming out. Gives credit to Claudio. Knows his partner speedballs in the back beating themselves up. Tells him not to do that.
Sometimes you got to slow down to speed back up. And he wants to challenge whoever wins the main event, too, because Jet2 belt sounds too fly.
Good one, Kev. Good one.
[01:22:22] Speaker E: Everybody wants that main event belt. Like, everybody's talking about it.
[01:22:28] Speaker A: Putting their hogs on the table for what they want.
So we have a Jericho proto.
[01:22:34] Speaker E: Oh, God, do it.
[01:22:36] Speaker A: Have you ever heard of Chris Jericho?
Here's a question.
[01:22:39] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:22:42] Speaker E: Listeners at home, I literally just instinctually just like, removed my glasses so I can put both my hands on my face.
[01:22:49] Speaker F: Pray tell, what the
[01:22:53] Speaker E: is this?
[01:22:53] Speaker A: The real question is where his wife was on January 6th.
We all have some theories because we've all seen her Twitter.
[01:23:04] Speaker E: Yeah. Because we've seen the pictures and we've seen those pictures.
[01:23:07] Speaker D: His wife, Erica Kirk.
[01:23:10] Speaker A: No, his wife is.
What's her name? Irvine. And boy, howdy does she did. She had.
Allegedly.
[01:23:25] Speaker E: Jessica Lockhart is.
Is her name. That's.
[01:23:30] Speaker A: I thought it was. Whatever. Well, yeah, Jericho's like, oldest. Well, he's not old as he's 55, but he's like, very old. And he just came back and he's like doing like a retirement tour, essentially that. They haven't said that. Yes.
And he came back and he lost in his return match to Ricochet at the pay per view.
So he comes out and they said, why did you lose? And he says, I lost because it was three on one. And technically that was true. Like, three guys beat the. Out of them.
[01:23:59] Speaker E: It was great. Do it again.
[01:24:01] Speaker A: And they should. Well, guess what happens.
So the guys. The. The group is called the demand. And the ball guys, Ricochet and his. His goons are the. The goa. The Gates of Agony. And they all have like, the sick ass one piece Admiral coats on because they're all a bunch of big nerds popping titties out.
[01:24:23] Speaker E: It's fantastic.
[01:24:24] Speaker A: Yeah, like, totally on. His boobs are just.
[01:24:28] Speaker E: God, they're.
[01:24:29] Speaker A: I'm jealous.
[01:24:29] Speaker E: Can I. I was good. I was gonna say Toa, who's your surgeon?
[01:24:36] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:24:37] Speaker A: Some girls get all the luck.
God. All right. So, yeah. Crowd. Crowd is just like chanting bald Adam. And Ricochet says he means it when he respects Jericho. He respects him even more after that because he signed the contract and got beat the up.
And you know, Ricochet is like. He's like. You know, I had to do it to him.
[01:24:55] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:24:56] Speaker A: With his own move, which was the. The springboard moonsault, which is. Jericho calls it the Lion Salt. And now Ricochet is calling it the Rico Salt, which I suspect sounds like he's doing tax fraud or something across state lines.
[01:25:11] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:25:12] Speaker F: I was like a federal figure out what the.
They were going for with that.
[01:25:19] Speaker E: He's tried to portmanteau. But if Portman sucks. Yeah.
[01:25:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Ricochet is the kind of heel where he will just make himself be the biggest dork possible so, like, I can totally see, like Rico saw. Yes. Workshop.
[01:25:33] Speaker F: Go for it. Go. No, no, no, no, no, no. Rip it ship. It cuts into print.
[01:25:38] Speaker A: Great. You know, let's stick with it.
They should let him just do some fraud interstate. Yeah, just do it as a ss As a bit.
[01:25:48] Speaker F: Yeah, Just. It's like girls just want to have fun, you know?
[01:25:52] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. Ricky Shay just want to do fraud. That's fine.
[01:25:55] Speaker A: Transport some drugs.
[01:25:57] Speaker E: Yeah. If it. If it can make Jericho upset. That's all I care.
Yes, please get us out of this Jericho segment. Drive faster.
[01:26:06] Speaker A: I'm trying. All right. Yeah. So. So, yeah, they tell Ricochet to shut the up. And Ricochet tells him to reinvent himself as the guy who gets his ass beat by the demand every time he shows up. Which he copyrighted. He copyrighted that legit. So that's his new gimmick.
[01:26:21] Speaker E: No, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[01:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, Wait, no, he did this.
[01:26:26] Speaker E: This is why it's so hard. Jericho actually copyrighted that.
[01:26:29] Speaker A: He trademarked guy who gets his ass beat by the demand every time he shows up. He trademarked that.
That's his gimmick.
[01:26:39] Speaker F: I'll allow it. I'll allow it.
[01:26:40] Speaker A: So I hate this guy, but it's so hard to hate him when he's actually kind of funny.
[01:26:44] Speaker E: Yeah, it really. It really is. Yeah, it's like Osprey. It's like I. I hate Osprey for the. The person he is, but he's a really great wrestler. I hate Chris Jericho for the person he is, but me, he's good at this.
Yeah, he's good at this because I hate him. And it's working
[01:27:05] Speaker A: anyway, so he does some little taunts. He like, starts saying stuff and like sliding in bald, weird shape head and says, you know, if you've got any balls, come down and fight me in the ring right now. So Ricochet does and he gets his ass beat for a second. So he calls for his backup and they beat the out of him.
[01:27:21] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm serious. I'm super serious. No one follow me,
[01:27:31] Speaker A: please. Please, please, please, please. Help, help, help, help, help.
[01:27:37] Speaker E: Good heel stuff.
I want to point out too, though, that hit, that whole ball thing, like where he's entering bald, weird shape, you know, like. And he's like adding that that is once again a recycled Jericho bit. He's. He's literally.
This is his retirement tour. He's literally playing the hits. That's what he's going to do is he's going to play the hits until he retires. And I need this to happen fast.
[01:28:06] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:28:06] Speaker E: Like this. He's got it. Yeah, yeah. This has to happen so fast. So anyways, that's Jericho. Good. He's gone. Thank you.
[01:28:16] Speaker A: Any thoughts on Jericho? Not really. I don't have it.
[01:28:19] Speaker E: No, no, no. I'd say we already had thoughts on Jericho. No more thoughts.
[01:28:22] Speaker A: We got a little video. Little video package from the pay per view where Okada and Don Callis.
Okada is like one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. And he just wants to be a comedy heel in a w. Awesome stuff. And then Takeshita is my husband, and he betrayed Okada on the pay per view. And so, like, he's like. He's like, hey, what happened? Oops. I'm so sorry.
[01:28:45] Speaker F: That was so good.
[01:28:47] Speaker E: It's Okada's line because Okada keeps him and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Every time since it catch the got
[01:28:53] Speaker A: him back, he says it the way that my old students used to do it when they were with each other in English class.
[01:29:01] Speaker E: That's amazing.
And then he yells at him in Japanese.
[01:29:06] Speaker A: Oh, he was pissed. He went like, full.
[01:29:08] Speaker E: What did he say? You. Yeah gonna say? What did he. What did he call him?
[01:29:12] Speaker A: A bastard.
[01:29:14] Speaker F: Hell yeah.
[01:29:16] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. Erica recently got back from Japan. Erica is like our. Our pure Resu correspondent as well. So that's why I was like, I wanted sometimes international. So that's why I was like, I gotta remember to ask, like, what the did he say?
Anyways, so actual match. Let's go.
[01:29:34] Speaker A: Actual match. Will Osprey versus Heshicero. Osprey is very English and he's got like 40 yards of Kinesio tape on his neck and arm because as we have been saying for weeks, Will Osprey has a neck. And I think it's official.
[01:29:52] Speaker E: Yes.
That much Kinesio tape. It's official.
This match is also very fun. Like, even if we don't. This is one where, like, even if we don't go into super detail about it. Just like, go watch this one. Like, because it's hetchicero. It's.
[01:30:09] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:30:09] Speaker A: Hachi Sarah is like, kind of unique. Like, you don't see a lot of luchadors that do the grappling in at least in the U.S. so, yeah, that
[01:30:19] Speaker E: kind of like chain, like, chain wrestling that he does. That's like. Yeah, all that. Like, he has a very. He has a. Yeah, he has a unique style, even among Lucha kind of thing, especially in America. So, like, like. And also, I just love him. And he's a wizard. And at one point during this match, like, he, like, super up Will's neck with that guillotine.
And then they're, like, cutting to the commercial and they're like, doctors are checking
[01:30:48] Speaker F: on him, and they're like, the backgrounds
[01:30:52] Speaker E: in the back pondering his orb, baby.
[01:30:56] Speaker A: That's my king. That's my king.
[01:30:58] Speaker F: It took me a second to, like, lock into him, but I'm like, oh, my God, this dude,
[01:31:05] Speaker E: he's so awesome.
[01:31:08] Speaker F: Like, his whole vibe.
[01:31:11] Speaker E: Yeah, if he's. If. If you're. If your girl's thick, has huge titties, and is a wizard, that's not your girl.
[01:31:17] Speaker A: That's.
Yeah, we got. We got, like, he played all the hits. And this was also. This is the match where the crowd had a good, solid don Callis and Ice 2 Chance, too, huh?
[01:31:33] Speaker E: Yep. At this point, ice is just a wrestling chant.
We gave you that. That context of all that that happened in Denver at this point. It's just every show, they find a way, whether Brody's there or not.
[01:31:49] Speaker A: Everybody. Everybody hates ice. It's.
[01:31:52] Speaker E: Everybody hates them.
[01:31:54] Speaker A: I. I mean, like, I could. I could give, like, a real firm breakdown of this, but, like, it's. There's so much happening, and we are, like, running long.
[01:32:02] Speaker E: Yeah. Yeah, we are running long. That's why I was. Like, we mentioned the good parts, but everyone else just go watch it. Like, it's.
[01:32:09] Speaker F: Just watch it.
[01:32:09] Speaker A: Just watch it.
[01:32:11] Speaker E: Like. Well, Osprey's a.
But he's really good at this.
[01:32:15] Speaker F: He looks so British. That was, like, my big takeaway from him.
[01:32:20] Speaker A: He says, bruv, constantly.
[01:32:22] Speaker E: The man's. No one has ever grubbed the way that man grubs.
Brava. Would just. Brava. I didn't know you could be that British.
[01:32:32] Speaker F: No.
[01:32:33] Speaker E: Jesus. Anyways, so, yeah, go check out that match. Very good, folks.
[01:32:38] Speaker A: Yeah, just like, some plot point stuff for the people following along for the plot. They. They talk about if Takeshita's still in the Don Callis family. And apparently that's like. It's under contract. You can't just leave.
[01:32:51] Speaker E: Of course. And is literally Satan.
He's got contract.
[01:32:57] Speaker A: So Maria Shafir is from the Death Riders, and she just kind of shows up to watch the match.
And we get, like.
[01:33:03] Speaker E: She scouts for her guy.
Scouts for her Moxley. Yeah.
So she's, like, hanging out and watching
[01:33:11] Speaker A: they hit that big guillotine thing. And, like, like we were saying, like, they. They check out Will's. The doctor checks out Will's neck for, like, a whole commercial. Break.
Which is why we've been saying he has a neck, because he just won't stop selling his neck all the time.
[01:33:26] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:33:28] Speaker A: Like, all the more he milks it, the more it gets.
[01:33:32] Speaker E: And Kenny Omega has guts because he had diverticulitis.
[01:33:38] Speaker A: He got him removed. He got them removed. He got the.
They're in the lake monster. I don't know how it works.
Basically, they. They play it like he. Sarah, is about to murder Will through, like, the last third of it. And I'm all just kind of hoping that that's what happens, but, yeah, it doesn't.
[01:34:00] Speaker E: Sacrificing to the orb. Yeah.
[01:34:02] Speaker A: Sacrifice him to the orb. Your soul is mine.
[01:34:07] Speaker D: Yeah, Will.
[01:34:08] Speaker A: Will's able to fight back. And he. He. He escapes. Like a triangle choke. And he, like, stands up. It's this move called the. The styles clash. And his finisher is the hidden blade elbow. And he wins.
It's really. Go check it out.
[01:34:23] Speaker E: It's good.
[01:34:24] Speaker A: It's good. It's great.
[01:34:25] Speaker E: All. All his is Assassin's Creed coded, so hidden blade, like, literally, like from Assassin's Creed.
[01:34:33] Speaker A: Take that. Take that. What you will.
So, yeah, Donald commentary says, well, it's time for plan B. And I wrote a joke about how he called for plan B, because that much.
I was worried. I was worried that wasn't gonna land for a second.
[01:34:52] Speaker E: I love doing this show with y'.
[01:34:54] Speaker A: All.
[01:34:54] Speaker E: I love my friend.
Oh, my God.
[01:34:58] Speaker A: All right, so, yeah, then a large, burly gentleman with a fat ass comes out, and his name is Mark Davis Dunkzilla.
[01:35:06] Speaker E: Literally. Dunkzilla.
[01:35:07] Speaker A: His. Yeah, Dunkzilla. Because he's got that big ass. There's, like, a whole Twitter page devoted to taking pictures of his ass.
[01:35:13] Speaker E: It's a pretty good fat ass in wrestling. It's amazing ass.
[01:35:17] Speaker A: Yeah. He hits this big pile driver that he calls. Calls close your eyes and count the.
And apparently, he's plan B. And he's going to kill Will Oscar
[01:35:26] Speaker E: right now, which is awful because they used to be friends. They were friends forever.
[01:35:29] Speaker A: They were friends.
[01:35:30] Speaker E: United Empire.
Yeah.
[01:35:33] Speaker A: Pro imperialism. They do a little promo about Willow, and she's got a match against this named Camille. We don't like her. So then Renee is up on the stage, and then she gets interrupted. All right?
Eclip comes out, and she just says, hey, hey, hey. Shut up. Nobody wants to hear you. They want to hear me beat Jamie Hayter at the pay per view. And I beat her ass good.
[01:35:59] Speaker E: Yeah, you did. Mommy
[01:36:02] Speaker A: talks about how the industry is full of nothing but dumb and and we get Will Ospreay's wife, Alex Windsor interrupts.
[01:36:11] Speaker E: Oh, yeah, yeah. Alex Windsor.
[01:36:13] Speaker A: They're married.
Talk about dumb bitches. And a dumb bitch appears.
[01:36:20] Speaker E: And there you are next to these two small children who are just like, oh, my God.
[01:36:27] Speaker F: Oh, my God.
[01:36:28] Speaker E: Watching the kids.
[01:36:29] Speaker D: Those kids were popping like they were the star of the show.
[01:36:33] Speaker F: The.
[01:36:34] Speaker A: The little boy looks so mad because she put her boot on his seat, I think. And he's like, the. I'm so. What do I do? What?
[01:36:44] Speaker F: I didn't plan on being part of the show.
[01:36:48] Speaker E: I'm just over here like, you're so lucky.
Her boots on your seat. Shine that go.
But I have a tecla problem.
[01:37:02] Speaker A: We all do. We're all very normal about tecla.
[01:37:05] Speaker E: Holy.
[01:37:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Alex comes out and just says, like, you're calling everybody a dumb, but you got fired from Japan.
Chew your balls. Chill your balls. Which I hope becomes your catchphrase is chill your balls.
I didn't get fired from Japan.
Okay. Yeah, I got fired from Japan.
Yeah.
Which ironically is my own origin story.
[01:37:38] Speaker E: Wait, how so?
Oh, because you. Oh, yeah, because you got fired and
[01:37:42] Speaker A: then I got fired for being trans.
[01:37:45] Speaker E: I thought you were literally. I thought you were literally talking about techno. Getting fired from Japan.
[01:37:50] Speaker A: No, I was literally fired from Japan.
[01:37:52] Speaker E: No, I now remember. I am so sorry.
[01:37:56] Speaker A: I'm allowed to make. Because it happened.
[01:37:58] Speaker E: My.
[01:37:58] Speaker A: My shitty life happened to me.
[01:38:01] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:38:03] Speaker A: I'm not bitter.
Yeah. So, yeah.
Why don't you put your title on the line on Collision. That's the show that's going on right now. And tackless says no, and then. Okay, actually, yeah. And then her. Her partner's sisters, Sin Attack and Windsor runs him off and then runs after Attack. Great stars.
[01:38:29] Speaker E: I love her.
[01:38:29] Speaker A: John Moxie promo.
John Moxley is like a weird boy cult leader with like his polycule of hot men and their one mom.
[01:38:39] Speaker E: This is he. He is also, like.
He doesn't realize it, but his whole thing is that he's really into bdsm, but instead he's a death match wrestler.
But I've read. I've read his autobiography.
He's into bdsm, but.
But it's like, how can I do this and make money and have it be okay? And he found pro wrestling and I'm. I'm. I'm so happy for him. I don't think he's ever really put together that that's what's going on. But John, call me. We'll talk about it.
[01:39:09] Speaker F: I love that for him.
[01:39:11] Speaker A: Yeah, he's A good boy.
[01:39:14] Speaker E: He's a good boy.
[01:39:16] Speaker A: He likes surprises. But Will Osprey never surprises him. Marina shows up to let him know that he looks like Little Green around the gills. I'm paraphrasing.
[01:39:33] Speaker F: It more or less.
[01:39:36] Speaker A: That's what she said. Like the. That I wrote in my own notes, maybe. All right, maybe Mox has a talent for seeing how the dominoes fall. Maybe he gets lucky. Maybe he just actually pays attention because he watches the shows.
Osprey showed his cards, put them out on the table. Don't be mad at Mox that he got. He lost.
He doesn't take pleasure in other suffering, although there can be beauty in it. He prefers life over death, light over darkness. But you don't get one without the other. And then he says, all right, Danny Garcia, who am I wrestling on? Collision.
Nick Wayne. Nick Wayne.
[01:40:13] Speaker E: Oh, local boy.
[01:40:15] Speaker A: Big pop. Local boy down the street.
He has a continental eliminator against Nick, and he says, please surprise me. And it's continental title match, adult rules and stuff for grown ups. So leave your mom in the back, please, because Nick Wayne's manager is his mother, who Christian was also the. The guy he was having sex with. His mom?
[01:40:38] Speaker E: Yeah, she was the major.
His dad is, in fact, dead. Yes.
[01:40:43] Speaker A: So he. His mom.
[01:40:44] Speaker E: Yeah. So he. His mom. Yeah. That was the whole thing.
[01:40:48] Speaker A: That was the thing.
[01:40:48] Speaker E: That's the other thing about Christian Cage. Not only is it that he wrestle, he fucks all the moms. Like. Like, he literally joked. Like, he talked recently.
They fought fdr and he's like, we're in Canada. Or he's like, I had to visit your mother's because I was so disappointed in you. And then there's like, a small break, and then he just, like, goes, I banged him. Both.
Right.
Biggest pop I've heard in weeks.
It was so good. Yeah. God, I love them. Anyways, back to this week's show.
[01:41:22] Speaker A: Another match.
TBS title match champion Willow Nightingale versus Camille.
[01:41:27] Speaker E: It's Willow time. But Camille's here, so it's sad.
[01:41:30] Speaker A: Camille was popular with the Internet for, like, about six weeks a year ago. And then she started talking about, like, how great Charlie Kirk was after he got that thing happened to him
[01:41:45] Speaker E: after that.
[01:41:47] Speaker A: Did that thing by itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And she's on American Gladiators.
[01:41:53] Speaker E: Yeah. And she has feelings about abortion and.
[01:41:57] Speaker A: Yeah, feelings about abortion.
[01:41:59] Speaker E: She's got feelings about a lot of stuff.
And Willow, who I love more than the son, kicked her ass. And it was awesome.
[01:42:12] Speaker A: Pretty much, yeah.
[01:42:14] Speaker E: That was it.
[01:42:16] Speaker A: Camille did fine. Like, she did. I'll give her credit for that. She did fine.
[01:42:21] Speaker F: I. I found her kind of boring. I'm. I'm gonna be straight up.
[01:42:25] Speaker E: Thank you, Bugs. Thank you.
[01:42:27] Speaker F: I. I'm like, you're not doing anything interesting here, dog. Like, you just keep hitting her arm over and over. Okay. I'm like, that's just mean. That's not fun.
[01:42:37] Speaker A: Well, it's not very fun, but it's like. Like, Ella knows what I say. A wrestler is fine. I'm kind of being mean because I say Tommy Chompers is fine.
[01:42:48] Speaker E: Yes. Fine. Again, we're trying to be nice.
We try to be nice on this show. I try to say good things about the sport that I love, the fake sport that I love. What's beer?
[01:43:01] Speaker F: Willow was great. She was funny.
[01:43:03] Speaker A: Willow.
[01:43:03] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. Willow is amazing. Willow is a goddamn national treasure.
Willow's whole thing is nothing matters smile. Anyway, she's a lot of that.
[01:43:16] Speaker D: Like, when she was, like, grappling with, like, grasping her arm and, like, crying, and then she's like, I'm smiling. I don't know.
I'm goofing around.
[01:43:24] Speaker E: She's so good. God, I love her so much.
So, yeah, this match was. If you love seeing Willow Nightingale on your tv, then, okay, it's fine.
You know, and then.
But other than that, it's.
[01:43:37] Speaker A: It's.
[01:43:38] Speaker E: I don't need to see Camille, and Camille brought, like, nothing to it at all.
[01:43:42] Speaker A: Yeah, she, like. She was fine.
[01:43:45] Speaker E: Yeah, she was fine.
[01:43:47] Speaker A: She was there. She wasn't offensively bad.
[01:43:49] Speaker D: It's just I'm generally offended by British people, and I think it wasn't the
[01:43:56] Speaker F: worst match of the night.
[01:44:00] Speaker E: Yeah. Which. Oh, Jesus, God.
[01:44:04] Speaker A: It wasn't the worst match.
[01:44:06] Speaker E: Where this is gonna go. This is. This is gonna go so long. But I don't even care because, like, it's like we're. I'm like, why is this going so long? Because we're avoiding getting to the main event.
[01:44:17] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:44:18] Speaker E: All right. Drive.
But there is a lot to talk about.
[01:44:24] Speaker F: It's only about 54 seconds to talk about, but
[01:44:30] Speaker A: all right, quick, quick little promo from Hikaru Shida, who's like, congratulations, Willow. And she's gonna team with Chris Statlander.
[01:44:38] Speaker E: Big Statlander.
[01:44:39] Speaker A: They're gonna team on collision again. And stat does not look thrilled. Renee comes for one last word with Darby before his match.
And old man Sting is here. Oh, I love Sting.
[01:44:53] Speaker E: And I love Sting, too.
[01:44:56] Speaker A: So depressing to see him with the
[01:44:58] Speaker E: guy throw his whole everything behind this little.
Yeah, it's. It's really unfortunate. And it's. It's, again, silent. Silent will speak for. For themselves, for herself. But, like, that's. That's Is not. It's. It's hard to see someone you love so much throw themselves so hard behind this dude.
Yeah. And it only gets worse. But this whole, like, from here on out, because, like, this is basically, like, Sting came out, and I was like, he's gonna win.
[01:45:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:45:34] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:45:35] Speaker E: Basically is how that went. I was like, oh, no. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Like that. And from there on out, I just kind of fugued. Like, I just sort of, like, almost. Yeah. I like, the rest. Like, ain't wrestling. Anger, disassociation associated for about eight seconds,
[01:45:53] Speaker D: and then it was all over.
[01:45:55] Speaker E: Oh, Jesus.
[01:45:57] Speaker F: No. Because it did feel so telegraphed from that moment. Like, I. I come into this had no context for any of, like, the people in this, but I'm like, oh.
[01:46:07] Speaker E: Oh, so, like, it's your hometown and your mentors here.
Oh, yeah.
[01:46:15] Speaker A: I'm thinking to myself how funny it would have been if they did all of this stuff. Because, like, his, like. Like, we'll just get into the match. Like, he comes out, he, like, hugs his family in the front row. It's like, it would be so funny if he lost. They do all this stuff, and then he loses in five seconds.
Like, I would have laughed. I would have laughed, and I would have laughed. I would have laughed.
[01:46:35] Speaker F: That would have been great.
[01:46:36] Speaker A: I would have been the biggest.
But that's not what happened. So they come out for the match, they do the ring entrances. They do the big announcement.
Somebody on blue sky was like, you can see the ring right next to Max's dick.
In his trunks?
[01:46:54] Speaker E: Yeah, in his truck.
So cock ring, no ring, you know,
[01:47:07] Speaker A: So. So, like, before the bell rings, Max takes the ring out from his. His trunks and he gives it to the ref, and she just. Basically.
This was in your pants?
[01:47:18] Speaker E: Yeah,
[01:47:22] Speaker F: she killed. Okay.
[01:47:23] Speaker C: She.
[01:47:23] Speaker F: Okay, she killed it. She was so funny.
[01:47:28] Speaker E: Aubry is a God. Another goddamn national treasure.
[01:47:33] Speaker A: I believe she burned down, like, a whole neighborhood in Seattle recently.
[01:47:38] Speaker E: No, no, I don't.
[01:47:40] Speaker A: I don't think that. I don't know if that's true or not. I just saw a post implying it.
[01:47:44] Speaker E: Oh, Jesus Christ.
[01:47:46] Speaker A: Sometimes the Internet has half truths buried in with the.
[01:47:50] Speaker E: Fair enough.
[01:47:51] Speaker A: All right, so, yeah, Max low blows Darby while her. While she's, like, giving the. The dick ring to the. The timekeeper guy. Darby low blows him back when he tries to do a headlock takeover. So Darby proceeds to hit four consecutive coffin Drops.
[01:48:07] Speaker E: Damn it. God damn it.
And I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. Because he hit the first one. And I was like, no.
[01:48:18] Speaker A: Too close to the ropes or Max is gonna roll it. Because, like, this. That's the thing that Max has been doing in every single match, like, this year, is he'll get hit with something, and then he very strategically rolls away. But this time, he just rolled to each corner to get hit again. So four consecutive coffin drops. Headlock takeover. And Darby it wins and is the new men's world champion.
The locker room empties.
[01:48:44] Speaker E: Oh, geez.
[01:48:45] Speaker A: Commentary says, where were you on April 15th when Darby Allen became champion?
[01:48:50] Speaker E: Vomiting.
[01:48:51] Speaker A: I was at my desk.
[01:48:52] Speaker E: I was screaming. Screaming at my laptop.
[01:48:58] Speaker F: I straight up thought it was a bit like. I'm like, I genuinely.
[01:49:02] Speaker A: We were.
[01:49:03] Speaker D: We were going back and forth about that. Like, when does. When does he come back with a gun and kill him in the ring? Like, yeah, that was what I thought it was going to be. I thought it was a bit where, like, the ground was going to open up and it was going to be like the apocalypse.
[01:49:17] Speaker F: Yeah. Like, second health bar. Max comes out. He's like, devil.
[01:49:22] Speaker E: You should. It's like Diablo. He should. Like, I mean, why.
[01:49:27] Speaker D: But it went so fast, and, like, there was no, like, drama to the whole thing. Like, there was so much better the entire time. And you get there and it's over and done. It's like, was he. Like, did he want to go shoot a movie or something? Like, he definitely doesn't want to be here.
[01:49:42] Speaker A: Well.
Well, that Max actually is on a call sheet for a movie. Yeah. So he's taking some time off to do that. So they had to get the belt off him.
[01:49:52] Speaker D: Yeah, he wanted to take a little vacation now.
[01:49:55] Speaker E: Okay, okay. No, I.
I have.
All right, Erica, can I do my rant first? Can I rant first?
[01:50:04] Speaker A: Go ahead. Be a knife. You can wait.
[01:50:07] Speaker E: All right, Knifey. I love you. Hold on.
This.
So y'. All. Tony Khan. I know you listen the booker. You just heard these beautiful, wonderful, wonderful human beings tell you that your sucks, and they had no context at all. And they're like, your sucks. So now I'm going to tell you why I.
With all the context and a love of your company. Company and this wonderful, wonderful fake sport, I'm gonna tell you why it sucks through a straw.
So I don't care that Max has a movie. That's fine and good. Max gonna do what Max gonna do. Max should have lost on Sunday to Kenneth Jerome. By God, Omega after one of like, it literally, I, I threw it on my Match of the Year contender list. Like, it was a very, very, very good, competitive, well told, well done match.
He, he ate a goddamn one wing angel from the ropes.
What the.
God damn. What? Like a unbelievable match.
That, that, that he could have lost.
And it would have been beautiful. It would have been perfect. It would have made so much sense, and he could have gone and made his movie and A rapist wouldn't have the title and, and, and you wouldn't have for like, the third or fourth time in like, as many weeks, made a whole bunch of people that love your show feel like, so, like, you gotta stop doing this, man. I'm happy at. Rhonda was just sticking around for the one. Hey, how are you? That's wonderful. I hope Camille can, can redacted, redacted, redacted soon.
You gotta stop booking this, man, because we're gonna leave.
Like, I know people who are not, are done with you. I know people who are not watching the product anymore because you gave this rapist a belt, and I cannot blame them. And there are people who are, like, more involved in your organization deeply, like, in outreach, people who are involved in extracurriculars, who are, like, really deep rooted in your community, who are done with you. And I can't blame them. I'm gonna keep watching, probably because I am closer to 40 than 30, and I've been dealing with this since it was Vince and the Fed and it was always we had, so I don't know, I, I, I'm calloused, I guess. I'm so used to worse.
Like, so much worse that, that I'm willing to continue watching while screaming at you about it. Does that make sense? Like, like, I will continue to watch and you're gonna wish I'm not is where I'm at. So that's how I feel about it. Because, like, you had a great story opportunity to get Max into his movie situation.
Instead, you convinced yourself that you could do a Mick Foley thing, which offends me on another level because, like, Mick Foley deserves better because you just so happen to be in this, this entitled little fuck's hometown, and you're just like, okay, we'll give it to him. It had nothing. And you squashed, you had him squash a guy who just beat the God of pro wrestling, the guy your company is named after.
Like, it doesn't even make sense.
So, like, yeah, I don't know. I was trying to keep it funny, but, like, I'm just too mad. So, all right. That's my.
Like, it sucks because he's a rapist. It sucks because there's no story. It sucks because you squash them. It sucks because you're trying to invoke Mick.
It sucks for all these reasons, but really, it just sucked. Like, you get rid of all that. It just sucked. It was bad TV was bad wrestling. Tony Khan, I don't know if you've stopped doing the cocaine. Can you start again?
Something's wrong.
Something has been off for, like, a month and a half, and I've been feeling it, and we've kind of been like, feeling it on the show.
Do more drugs, I guess, is what I'm saying to you.
Whatever it takes.
[01:54:38] Speaker A: Do more drugs.
[01:54:40] Speaker E: Do more drugs and stop doing this. Okay. All right, I'm done. Erica, take us out.
[01:54:49] Speaker A: I barely have anything else to add to that, except I probably am one of the few people that is not mad about how the match went down. Like, I don't give a.
I'm very mad about that. They do matches like this all the time.
[01:55:06] Speaker E: Like, not with the. Not with the Ever twink.
[01:55:11] Speaker A: No, not with you. Let me. Would you please let me finish?
[01:55:17] Speaker E: Top of Choppers.
[01:55:18] Speaker A: I have a knife. Shut up.
I lost my train of thought. Like, I don't care. I don't give a. About the match. I care about who won the match.
And Bugs and Mia are not as, like, into the wrestling universe as we are, but in 2020, there was a. An offshoot of Me Too called Speaking out, where women involved in wrestling all started. Kind of like taking that. The Me Too Hashtag movement as a way to, you know, here's my own story of how I was taking advantage of how I was raped. I was abused in the wrestling industry, and there were so many guys who were loved, who were accused, who were very, very credibly accused, who you never see anymore.
[01:56:15] Speaker E: Yep.
[01:56:16] Speaker A: Except for Darby.
[01:56:18] Speaker E: Except for Darby.
[01:56:19] Speaker A: Darby had a credible accusation, and there were a lot of guys who managed to survive.
But Darby, for whatever reason, the widespread consensus among fans was, well, he probably didn't do it.
And then there was an internal investigation where he apparently showed proof to the boss of the company that this was all, you know, made up, not true.
And it's a very big, trust me, bro, situation. And, like, I don't expect them to, like, actually post evidence if there's actually evidence, but I also don't really believe them because why should I believe the billionaire guy that, you know, has a vested interest in keeping this guy on TV who makes some more money?
[01:57:10] Speaker E: Yeah. And at the very. But like, at the very least, you don't put your belt on the.
When. When you know that this is even a possibility.
[01:57:19] Speaker A: Like, what frustrates me the most about it is there's a contingent of fans who just simply.
They will be like, believe women, believe women, believe women, believe women. And then. But when it comes to Darby, well, that's.
[01:57:33] Speaker E: That's not that one. Yeah.
[01:57:35] Speaker A: Without that, that's a different thing entirely. And that pisses me off more than anything. Like all that other said, Darby's on like the worst run of his career that I've ever seen. Like, he's. I think he actually is a good wrestler. He just has not been a good wrestler.
[01:57:49] Speaker E: Yeah. So that's where we disagree. I don't think he's a good.
[01:57:51] Speaker A: Not anywhere ready for the title. And I kind of don't want to watch, but I'm watching because I'm doing this.
[01:58:03] Speaker E: Yeah. No, honestly, like, I would be way more anarchy about it and be like, I'm boycotting and stuff. But like, I love our listeners and I want to keep doing the show because I like talking grabs with my friends and like, we, we. This match there was still good matches. I'm very mad at this. But everything else about this show was great.
Like,
[01:58:27] Speaker A: that's what's so frustrating about this is.
[01:58:30] Speaker E: But, well, and that's the thing is this is what being a wrestling fan is and has been forever. There's a. A show of CIS dudes who, they talk about shame and pain.
The laps fan. It's like if being a wrestling fan comes down to shame and pain because when you're younger, it was you. You get the kicked out of you for admitting that you watch this faggy.
You know what I mean? You know it's fake, right? And now even when it's.
It's, ooh, loved, you know what I mean? And more mainstream, there's the pain of watching this.
Yeah. So it's like, even. Even when we've gotten out of it and like we're almost the cool kids, but we'll never be the cool kids.
We should never. We should never ever be the cool kids. Wrestlers should never be cool fans should never be cool. Cool kids. Don't let it happen.
But like, you know what I mean? Like, even now, it's still not like the women's revolution in wrestling, quote unquote. Women's revolution. TMTMTM happened in 2016.
[01:59:36] Speaker A: There was one women's match on tonight.
[01:59:39] Speaker E: One in like three and a half. Like two and a half hours a show. So, like, there's a lot of work to do. Tony.
Yeah. So I'm very sorry that y' all picked this episode because we had so much fun, and then we had to end it with me, like, getting serious Mob voice and. And just like this.
But, yeah, like, there was no other way. There was no way I was. I. I like to think I could have been and more angry.
[02:00:14] Speaker A: I thought I would be more angry, but I've, like, calmed down from last night.
[02:00:18] Speaker E: Yeah.
Yeah.
[02:00:21] Speaker F: It's. It just like, to chime in as someone who, you know, didn't. Had no context for the match, had no content, but I'm just. I'm like.
It's so, like. Like, y' all are saying. I'm like, literally, why the did we do that? Like.
Like. Like, this is. This is God's most avoidable stupid decision.
[02:00:41] Speaker E: Like, this keeps doing it.
[02:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that's.
[02:00:44] Speaker F: That's so frustrating.
[02:00:46] Speaker A: And it's more frustrating because there's enough people that will be into it that it won't matter.
Yeah.
[02:00:52] Speaker E: And that's the thing that hurts, too, is, like, even in aew, because we talked about how the feds, like, the. The literal Fed company, like, WWE is literally the. The company.
Like, the thing that's cool about AW is, like, trans people more or less can feel pretty good about being in AW crowd. You know what I mean? Like, we're. We're what, like, in aew, wrestling is queer. It is understood that this is a very queer thing. And it's not an insult. It's a yay.
You know, like, we're happy about it. We embrace it. You know, I mean, like it. So you're supposed to feel safe in that crowd.
Yeah. But don't be a woman and don't. Don't let your partner coerce you into sexy. Don't actually want, like. And then try to talk about it.
So, like, yeah, yeah, like, that. That to hell and back.
But, yeah, it's just dumb. It's just. It was just dumb all around on top of all that. It was just dumb. It was just dumb.
It's dumb. And I hope that it's over quickly, and I hope that we never have to do it again, because you know what?
[02:02:01] Speaker F: We get to watch the beat out of him, hopefully.
[02:02:04] Speaker E: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's all. Literally, his only move is that he takes beatings instead of going to therapy. He just does these huge spots that should kill him instead of going to therapy. That's his whole thing. You can't actually wrestle. It's It's.
[02:02:19] Speaker A: He can't actually wrestleman.
[02:02:21] Speaker E: Actually wrestle.
[02:02:22] Speaker A: He can't actually wrestle. Don't listen to El. She likes Tommy Chompers.
[02:02:25] Speaker E: You project.
Yeah, right.
[02:02:32] Speaker F: Chompington kicks his ass.
[02:02:34] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, that's right. He's coming.
[02:02:40] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah.
[02:02:41] Speaker E: Come back anytime. If he wins next week, I'm taking
[02:02:44] Speaker A: the next week off. I'm already taking the next week off.
[02:02:50] Speaker F: If that's. If that ends up being the feature match. Like. Like, keep me posted. I. I will back to back this.
[02:02:56] Speaker A: I will lose my
[02:02:59] Speaker F: will.
[02:02:59] Speaker A: Absolutely tag you in it.
[02:03:02] Speaker E: I will.
I will be celebrating so hard.
Awesome. But, hey, we got through it. We did it. We got through the show.
Even though the ending sucked, the rest of it was great. Thank y' all for being the inaugural guest host things on the Wednesday night show. We're gonna try to occasionally do this occasionally. So occasionally. Y' all are the first take team. Woo.
[02:03:30] Speaker A: Applause oh, yeah, yeah, it was great. She messaged us on Monday and I was like, the. You mean we have guests?
[02:03:41] Speaker F: Yeah. Got a call from Mia and I'm like, oh, I got. I gotta get booked on stuff. Hold on.
[02:03:46] Speaker E: Yeah, I was like, wait, I know people book podcasts. Hold on. Ella, girl.
[02:03:51] Speaker A: Oh, my God, Do I have to be on my best behavior?
[02:03:53] Speaker E: No, no, no, no.
[02:03:57] Speaker D: Bugs was very much like, I'm gonna book us on a bunch of podcasts for that you don't know anything about. It's like this and fan fiction and like, I know that she wanted to book us on some magic stuff and I really had to veto.
[02:04:11] Speaker E: Exc. Was it how.
[02:04:12] Speaker A: I hope this wasn't too boring for you.
[02:04:14] Speaker E: Then how did Silent put it because you're like, do I have to behave? And silence. Like, Bugs is way into Magic the Gathering, which is more degenerate than anything we've ever said on the show.
[02:04:28] Speaker D: Yeah, but I'm a good Christian girl, so you guys.
[02:04:30] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm sorry that I'm a corrupting influence.
[02:04:33] Speaker D: Clean it up for Mia. She's an adult.
[02:04:36] Speaker E: Yeah, absolutely. So, speaking of Mia and adulting, you should once again tell the people about your amazing movie that I can't wait to see and that we are going to get to theaters and how they can do that.
[02:04:49] Speaker D: Of course.
Well, Again. Again is going to be touring around pretty much for the rest of the year, hopefully.
We're hoping to hit, like, some major cities. And I don't know what that looks like yet because we're just about to screen for the first time next month,
[02:05:03] Speaker E: so it's sold Out.
[02:05:05] Speaker D: Yeah, Sold out. Our first screening. So that's. That's crazy. But also, like, that also just means I don't know what I'm promoting here,
[02:05:12] Speaker E: so that's not crazy.
It makes you make good things.
[02:05:17] Speaker A: Go.
[02:05:18] Speaker D: Follow me on Instagram. I'm iamore Vibes and I will be posting non stop about this movie forever. And so you can go there and you can check and you'll see, you know, when our next screenings are gonna to be and we'll. We'll send you guys a link to put in the bio.
[02:05:33] Speaker A: Sure.
[02:05:34] Speaker D: Or episode description or whatever Bugs you want.
[02:05:37] Speaker E: Do you want to promote anything other than being a perfect little goblin?
[02:05:42] Speaker F: Yes. Hi, I'm Bugs Matrix, the Internet's favorite gas leak. You can find me over on Blue sky gaping about stuff.
I will be promoting the movie over there as well. That is Bugs Matrix.
Mia. Mia. We made a movie and now we're
[02:05:57] Speaker E: talking about
[02:06:01] Speaker A: it on.
[02:06:03] Speaker E: Oh, my God, y'.
[02:06:05] Speaker A: All.
[02:06:05] Speaker E: I adore you both. This is amazing. Mia, it's so good to, like, actually meet you. Internet person I've known for a while. Bugs. I've known you for having Bugs. This is old hat now.
[02:06:16] Speaker F: Yeah.
[02:06:17] Speaker D: Yeah. Thank you guys for having us on.
[02:06:19] Speaker E: This was super time. Yeah. Awesome. We will maybe have you back sometime now that you actually know what we're talking about, but hell yeah. Thank you.
[02:06:28] Speaker F: We're gonna watch the.
[02:06:29] Speaker E: The.
[02:06:30] Speaker D: The Saturday morning cartoon I talked about earlier.
[02:06:35] Speaker A: Here's a. Here's a real palate cleanser. On Sunday, like 11am sometime, they're doing a show called Big Gay Brunch. It's like the Big Wrestle. Queer wrestlemania.
[02:06:46] Speaker E: It's Queer Wrestlemania.
[02:06:49] Speaker A: Everybody on it's queer. Except, like, this one British twink who is like, honorary queer because.
[02:06:55] Speaker E: No, he's bisexual.
[02:06:58] Speaker F: Love a bisexual twink.
[02:07:00] Speaker A: I think he's just like. It's just like one of those things, like, he's allowed at brunch. It's called Big Gray. Big Gay Brunch.
[02:07:06] Speaker E: He gets the laminated trans women.
Oh, I'm gonna cry.
[02:07:10] Speaker A: I'm not Rose.
[02:07:13] Speaker E: I'm not. Yeah. Oh, Dark chic versus Nyla Ro. Not. Oh, speaking of aw being awesome. It sucks that they don't have her on TV now, which is another thing we can yell at them about. But the first. Aw. Women's champion was a trans woman.
[02:07:28] Speaker A: Second.
[02:07:29] Speaker E: Second. Sorry, not the first. The second.
[02:07:31] Speaker F: Still second. I'll take it.
[02:07:32] Speaker A: Still really good. It's still really good. And she was the first trans woman to be champion of a major company.
[02:07:38] Speaker E: Yeah. Like ever. And Nyla Rose and. And she is a posters poster. You find. She is risen on R I Z Z and on blue sky.
Nyla. Oh, my God. Yeah, go find Nyla. Go find Mia, Go find Bugs. Find me if you must. Find Eric, if you'd like. Don't. Yeah, sure.
Find us.
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[02:08:24] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus Christ, we didn't get into the body of our part of this episode.
[02:08:28] Speaker E: We'll get there. We're trying to. We're trying to behave. But until next time, when the horrors return. Happy wrestling.
Thank you all.
And now I gotta kick the fat out of here.
[02:08:39] Speaker A: Get out of here, you.
[02:09:01] Speaker D: Yeah, sometimes. I mean, I used to be a podcast producer, like full time. Like, that was my job for years and years and years. And now I'm the guest who doesn't have a microphone. But yeah, when I was doing that, like, I didn't ever. If somebody said, I want to have five people on mic, I said, here's a gun, I'm the editor. If you're going to edit it, then go ahead, but otherwise, go fuck yourself
[02:09:24] Speaker A: with the guy that's going to be the figure. I know it.
Yeah, hi, Piper.
