Do the kids find Bibleman cool? w/Hate Speech Pod

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The following is from Ghost Coast Studios, the world's first and only podcast network. [00:00:06] Speaker B: No, I didn't. I thought all of my sexual awakenings were behind me until I saw this gold dust thing. There's something. There's a dragon I can chase right there. [00:00:17] Speaker C: There's always a taller mountain. [00:00:29] Speaker A: And on that note, dogs at the ready. Welcome back to Monday Night Fake Fights, where I, Garrett Taylor, she, they. I'm doing a rewatch of the Monday Night wars and making it your problem. No sad David lynch reference this week. Well, we'll leave that in the past. Even though I'm still hurting. [00:00:45] Speaker B: This week's esteemed victims are Nate he, him, and Tyler. He. They. [00:00:55] Speaker A: I got a tag team again. We're building a whole division. [00:01:00] Speaker B: We're kind of like the American males of podcasting. [00:01:08] Speaker A: I am so happy y'all showed up for an American Males episode. [00:01:12] Speaker B: We were hooting and hollering at the American males. [00:01:17] Speaker C: You know, every episode we do is the American Males episode. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Exactly. So for folks that aren't aware, I. I was lucky enough to be a guest on the American Males podcast. Hate speech with these two fine young gentlemen, and we spent a long time talking about all the ways in which Mark always sucks. [00:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, we're not fans of the Taker. [00:01:41] Speaker A: No, we are not. But y'all were wonderful hosts, and I was like, I. I should return that favor. And apparently my. My usual question upon who y'all are is what, if any, is your relationship to wrestling? But I know, because it's my fault. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I was a sweet wrestling virgin until about a few weeks ago when you sauntered into my DMs and forced the Undertaker upon me. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Hey, hey. First of all. First of all, you sauntered into my DMs. Thank you very much. [00:02:17] Speaker B: Sorry, I was just trying to give you agency over me. I tend to do that. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Where everyone owns up to their. That being said, I'm owning up to my. I did. I did give you the undertaker. [00:02:30] Speaker B: You did? Yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker C: One of them was the taker. One of them was the giver. We don't know who. [00:02:38] Speaker A: Oh, God. I imagine Mark Callaway just looking real mad, starting to tape his fist. Like, would you just call me Queer Mark? Queer? [00:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Deal with it. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, I really. I had no history. Like, it was always sort of tangentially near me and my juggalo past, but I would always, like, look at the rock and not understand. I was like, what is a people's elbow? They Say these. Like, what is happening here? I don't. I don't understand anything. He's cooking. I had nothing. [00:03:12] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah. But you did have a relationship. I was about to say, Tyler, I've known you for ages. You've had a relationship with the Ultimate Warrior. I know this. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I like a guy that shakes rope and gets power, but I never have. I have not seen a match. Okay, I. I had the thing you put on the pencil. It was the Ultimate Warrior. You put a pen. He was like a troll. You put on the end of a pencil. I had that as the Ultimate Warrior. So I was like, I like this guy. He's got neon colors. He looks kind of weird. But I think, if I had to guess, he's probably a monster. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Like, we get there. [00:03:49] Speaker C: They'Re just excited. For my History of Wrestling, which is zero, I played one wrestling video game, which is the NES WWE game. It was awful. It's one of the worst NES games I played, actually, though, I traded in a pristine copy of Dang. What was the. It Doesn't Matter. A very good video game for this. And I got. Because, like, the kid knew. He was like, he. He knew that, like, it was Dog Chase. He was like, no, this game's awesome, actually. You should trade me for this. And I did. [00:04:23] Speaker A: He knew what he was doing to you. He's like, I got this guy hook, line, and sinker. [00:04:27] Speaker B: You got rid of your golden cartridge. Legends of Zelda. [00:04:30] Speaker C: No, no, it was like the. [00:04:32] Speaker A: The. [00:04:32] Speaker C: The square racing game. It doesn't matter. But, yeah, Long story short is the first, like, full match of wrestling I watched was a couple weeks ago with the episode we did, and I enjoyed it. [00:04:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I liked it a lot. [00:04:45] Speaker C: I think the. The takeaway is both. Now, fans of wrestling. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Hurry here, folks. We. We did it. We did it again. I keep doing this. My favorite. It's my favorite thing about this show is getting people who maybe don't know or don't know enough or have no interest, and then they realize, oh, no. And I'm like, yes. [00:05:06] Speaker C: That's the power of Mark Calloway, actually. I guess. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:05:11] Speaker B: No. The thing I think I learned was that Mark Calloway, the Undertaker, the least charismatic, least interesting wrestler out of every wrestler I've ever seen. [00:05:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Which is saying something, because there's so. I mean, there's some candidates this week. And on that note, we should get. We should probably get to it. Which one would y'all like to start with? Nitro or Raw? I like to ask the guests. Vegetables or meat? [00:05:38] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:05:39] Speaker C: We started like, this is chronological. We watched Raw first. [00:05:42] Speaker B: Yeah. We weren't sure what to do, so we watched Raw first. [00:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, fine. Fine choice to get it out of the way. I don't know. Sometimes we get surprised. Last week, we. I ended up really liking the Raw. It was. It was interesting. But we are firmly in the what the is Raw doing kind of era still. They're starting to figure it out, but I am. [00:06:06] Speaker C: Wait, that that's figured out? [00:06:09] Speaker A: No, no, that. That's starting to figure it out. [00:06:12] Speaker B: If I was just gonna say if Raw. Like, here's what I think would have fixed Raw and would have cemented America as basically the greatest country on the planet. [00:06:24] Speaker C: Okay. [00:06:25] Speaker B: If they threw away everything and gave the entire hour to gold dust. [00:06:30] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you. This is what the liberals want, is a drag queen obsessed with movies whose wife sucks his tongue when he does a good job. [00:06:41] Speaker B: And I had no idea what the fuck was happening during the Goldust promo. And I know you said no David lynch tribute, but. Oh, my God. That was a David lynch little scene of Goldust telling a rowdy Roddy Piper mannequin that the mannequin was going to fuck Goldust. Like, when I get you, when I get you in my back pocket, it's over. President Piper. I'm like, I, I, I was transfixed. I could not look away. [00:07:17] Speaker A: It was both psycho and sexual. Yeah. So, like, that. That does make sense. There was a little David lynch going on. You're right. [00:07:23] Speaker C: I feel like. I feel like a complete idiot, too. So to set up this promo like there's a mannequin there, and I'm just like, I'm looking at this mannequin not realizing that was actually a mannequin. I was like, this woman is dissociating. What's wrong? She's crying for help. I thought it was just a lady painted up like a mannequin standing there. Because Goldust sold it. Goldust. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Goldust completely sold it. [00:07:47] Speaker C: Convinced me that he was talking to a human person, basically. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Oh, my God. So we've skipped. I'm gonna go ahead. Just skip to that in my notes. Even though it comes later. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say we went. We passed all the fighting and went. Right. The gold dust psychosexual promo. [00:08:06] Speaker C: We started with a showstopper. It's a rookie mistake. [00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, but yes. No, needless to say, that that does happen. And we'll bring it in. I love. No, that makes sense because that's also. That's what Vince wants. He doesn't want you to look at the graphs. He wants the drama. So. Yes. But sure enough, like, it's gold dust in the backlot. He recites Pinocchio. [00:08:29] Speaker C: As you do, as he did. [00:08:30] Speaker A: They tell us that it's edited for tv, thus implying it was worse in person. [00:08:34] Speaker B: And I'm like, okay, I. Yeah, I can believe that. [00:08:37] Speaker C: I saw the cut. I know where it happened exactly. Because he was going down at some point. But then it, like, cut to him back up standing, like, oh, they didn't want to show what he was doing down. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Oh, that's. That. That's what they did. Well, last week, he got on his knees in front of the actual Roddy, not Twinkie mannequin dressed like Piper. And, like, I'm guessing they probably got some calls, so they're like, all right, we're gonna go ahead and fucking change that. But it was. It was some loving, gay shit that he says to this mana dick and then smashes the mannequin against the wall. [00:09:11] Speaker B: I. I'm brave enough. I'll say it. Release the gold dust. Cut. Yeah, please, for the love of God. [00:09:18] Speaker A: The Marlena cut. Yeah, release the Marlena cut. That's amazing. Holy. That. Write that down. But, yeah, no, I'm happy we get the gold dust of it all out of the way, because he. He is some of the best shit going on right now, and it's basically all leading up to a hate crime. So. To the Patreon for that. We're recording that to tomorrow night. WrestleMania 12. Woo. [00:09:43] Speaker B: No, I didn't. I thought all of my sexual awakenings were behind me until I saw this gold dust thing or the mannequin. I. It doesn't matter anymore. [00:09:54] Speaker A: Like, all. Like, I give. Honestly, give me all three. Like, it was. [00:09:57] Speaker B: I was like, wow. I thought I had tried everything, but there's something. There's a dragon I can chase. Right. [00:10:04] Speaker C: There's always a taller mountain. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Holy. Yeah. Quoting Pinocchio. So I'm. I'm happy I could bring wrestling into your life and break you in a new way sexually. That's always great with the show's working folks. [00:10:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. [00:10:21] Speaker A: But as far as the rest of ra, they. They took a cue from Nitro last week, and they said it. Intro. No intro. We're just gonna go right to the ring. They do this thing with Sean with a camera, and it's his cam, and it just looks creepy when he's doing it. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Now, I have a. I have a question. My first question. Is Shawn Michaels straight? Because because like, as someone with a theater degree, someone who's done every manner of sexual thing to guys, gals, and non binary pals. The way this man, the way he twirls, I, I, I was watching this and I was like, no, they call this, they call this gay. Like his twirl. Like, I can't believe he did a perfect pirouette and hair toss. It was incredible. [00:11:22] Speaker C: Counter argument, I think, I think that he was just feeling the, the aura of the ring, you know, like there's nothing, there's nothing sexual about it. It was just like he was enraptured with the crowd and, and the muscles and the lighting and he was there. [00:11:38] Speaker B: Honestly, I think if you are trained by someone named Jose Lothario, you're gonna be sexual in how you fight. Okay, I figured it out. I got there. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's in there. It's in there. I mean, he was barely trained by Jose Withario. Oh, this is such. But he brings Jose out. But they're trying to set up the, they, they're, there's a rocky motif going on. So they're like, we, we need a Mickey. Jose. Here you go. Get up. Shot. So like, yeah, there you go. But there I noticed there's a click sign in the audience. The click is what him and his friends call themselves, but also they're trying to like, say that's what Sean's fans are. But the lady spells it correctly and thus wrong. And that made me giggle really hard. It's no Internet yet. You don't know how to see. You don't know how to see how it's supposed to be. [00:12:30] Speaker B: It's so, like, I miss ponytails. Like, he had. We don't see guys with ponytails like that anymore. [00:12:37] Speaker C: It was all ponytails as far as I could tell. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:40] Speaker A: No, well, no. Leaf Cassidy was doing the the Mullet. And Leaf Cassidy is a new name for listeners, but it's someone they've seen before because Leaf Cassidy is the new rocker. He's taking Sean's place in his old tag team with Marty Jannetti. And it is, in fact, Al Snow. He has shown up twice already as a guy named Avatar and a guy named Shinobi. Both mark masked martial arts characters, both for one match. He came out on Rock for one match where he was supposed to be, like, launching him. And it just sucks shit. Like, both times it was just the worst thing. And like, I love wrestling. I love, I want to give guys, like a lot of credit. These were bad. You did a bad job. So like, like, fuck it and we'll try again. [00:13:32] Speaker B: I was supremely happy and pleased with, like, the, like, twisting and aerial stuff that was happening in this first fight. I was like, oh, this is really kinetic in a way that every Undertaker fight I watched was not. [00:13:48] Speaker A: Yes, absolute. And it's kind of cool. And like, I say that part about all of his other sucking to bring up that point that this was really good. Like, he sells this body scissors and these arm drinks so hard and fast. Like, and it's like, where was, where was this when you were Avatar, buddy? Where was this, like, six months ago? Like, what the. He's been working, so I'll give Al that. But yeah, it's, it's better than it had any right to be. So, I mean, you think of, maybe they'd start paying attention to the wrestling soon as it's happening and it's a wrestling show, but the moment they lock up, Bret Hart comes out to create a distraction. [00:14:27] Speaker B: I look, I don't. He's obviously the first person to ever have wraparound raptor glasses or whatever the they're called. [00:14:37] Speaker A: They're like made of foil. Like, they would even have frames. Yeah, it's like when you get your. [00:14:41] Speaker C: Eyes dilated at the, you know, optometrist and you have to like, get those, like, loner sunglasses. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Like, oh, but these are cool. [00:14:50] Speaker C: Kind of though, like, I don't, I don't know how I feel about those glasses. I, I enjoyed them, so I think they looked okay, just not on him. [00:14:57] Speaker B: And I, I think it takes a, a pretty comfortable man to wear bright pink because at work we as nurses, we all banded together to kind of bully our manager because we got reported or some of, some of my co workers got reported because they were called Mean Girls because they would wear pink on Wednesdays. And if anybody who's ever seen the movie Mean Girls knows that that's a bit from the movie. And this new manager didn't, had never seen Mean Girls, so she thought there was a culture of bullying happen at work. So she reported 15 people to HR and when it came out that it was a movie quote and people were wearing pink as a fun little like, team building thing, a bunch of us bought pink scrubs. And so I wear neon pink scrubs every Wednesday at work to stand in solidarity with these women who got reported for liking Mean Girls. So I'm saying if there's any men out there by chance, start wearing bright pink, you look fucking sick. [00:16:02] Speaker C: I want it. I, I, I want, I want hot pink to Be like the new color of 25. Let's do. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Thank you. Let's do it. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Black. The hot pink. And black is my. And it's all Brett's fault. So, like. Yeah, I agree. Y'all are great. You can come by more often. You're. You're giving. You're gassing up my. My entire wardrobe. You don't even realize it. Thank you. [00:16:21] Speaker C: And also, it pairs well with that, like, neon green, kind of like that zombie green that came on leaf, you know, like it. [00:16:27] Speaker A: I actually did like. [00:16:29] Speaker C: I like the design too. It kind of was cool where like. Like cross across the egg, you know, like across the chest and kind of lead into, like, these weird, like, tassel things outside of it. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Yeah. He's team Tassels. Him and Marty Jannetti are definitely team Tassels. And he kind of looks like a Eddie Van Halen guitar in Nihon green. [00:16:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker A: No. And by and by all means, this is literally the best he has ever looked. Both as far as, like, a style and in ring, it's pretty great. I wish we were paying more attention to the match, but they keep wanting us to look at everything else. And that's. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I. That I did not want to see. I didn't want to see Brett the Hitman heart talking. I wanted to see more like flips and cool. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I want flippy and cool and guys hitting each other. This is the problem with this era of Raw. And I mean, before I came on y'all show, you were watching the. The first Raw on Netflix. And I mean, that I met. From what I heard, it's not much better now. It's like a lot of people talking in, like three matches and then three. Three hour show. And it. That seems sad to me, but I gotta make note of you guys. Go. Brett the Hitman, he says at one point that that's why they call him the Hitman, because he hits guys real hard. Yeah, like, is it. Is it Brett? [00:17:41] Speaker B: Is that. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Is that. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Is that what. Is that what a hitman is? [00:17:45] Speaker C: The American males must watch out. His man is coming to hit them. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah, because your finisher is called the sharpshooter. So I was under the impression you were hired a assassin. [00:17:55] Speaker C: That would make sense. [00:17:57] Speaker A: I hit him real good, and I'm just like, holy. I'm so happy he's so good in the ring. Get him off a microphone. [00:18:02] Speaker C: Agent 47 is just walking around punching people. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Watch out. They call him a hitman because he hits all of his targets. [00:18:10] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a Canadian Agent 47. Now I want a Canadian Hitman game punch. Yeah. There you go. Holy. Overall, I don't have much more to say about this match other than while still green. It's like I said, the best he's ever looked it. [00:18:26] Speaker B: It definitely did. One thing about it did pique my interest for something in the show to come and that they mentioned they're going to show Brett the hitman hearts music video. [00:18:38] Speaker C: Oh, good. [00:18:39] Speaker A: I've been dreading that since last week when they first. First gave it to us. But as I'm writing, like, yeah, not much to say about this. There's, like, terrifying botch. L. Drops. Drops Sean just on top of him. It looked like he might have been trying to do, like, a. A stun gun across the top rope where you kind of lay the guy out, but he just. There was a miscommunication and, like, even showing a terrifying amount of trust right after that, like, 30 seconds prior, they do a superplex off the top rope, and I'm like, I wouldn't be doing that. Like, that guy just dropped me. Like, I don't want to do this. But they pull it off. And I mean, to be fair, all Al has to do is fall backwards while Sean does a front flip. [00:19:22] Speaker B: So I'm gonna steal Nate's point here. [00:19:26] Speaker C: Yeah, cool. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Good. That you had made and. And maybe Nate, you want to talk about it? About handing it to Al Qaeda. Oh, so what? No, no, not that. So what what? Nate sort of vocalized, and what I completely agree with 100% is that Vince McMahon's kind of a good announcer. Like, he's kind of good at that. [00:19:49] Speaker A: He was. [00:19:50] Speaker C: He was kind of doing a good job. [00:19:51] Speaker B: He kind of sells it, like, the fuck out. [00:19:54] Speaker A: I mean, you're hosting me, but leave my show. [00:19:59] Speaker B: Like, there's something magnetic about his cocaine eyes. And just, like, he looks at everybody like they're prey, and it's like, wow, you people couldn't tell what was like, oh, my God. [00:20:12] Speaker C: Monsters are entertaining. Like, they're entertained to look at. Like, you're like, oh, man, this guy, something's wrong with him, but, like, his face doesn't move the right way. And, like, you know, but like, the. The way that he talks about people, he talks about them kind of. Not emotionally, but descriptively. [00:20:30] Speaker A: Like, it's. [00:20:30] Speaker B: It's very. [00:20:31] Speaker A: Like, he objectifies everything around him, basically. [00:20:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And I don't know, like, the vocal affect he has where it's like a weird Southern take on the mid continental accent. It's so. It's distinct and Like, I want to dissect him. [00:20:50] Speaker A: There's whole. A whole book about. That's required reading, but basically that's because he's from South Carolina. But he does want people to realize that he's from the south because he thinks that makes him, like, so he wants to be like a Connecticut, Mid Atlantic, like, New York guy. So that's him trying to sound like that. And what you get is Rossling. And in. In unquestionably. And like, it's like he does not say things like anybody else says things. It's really weird. [00:21:21] Speaker B: It's magnetic and horrifying at the same time. [00:21:24] Speaker C: It's entertaining. [00:21:26] Speaker B: It's entertaining. [00:21:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:30] Speaker A: But, yeah, thankfully, almost mercifully, this match ends. There's some. But Al eats a boot for three. And then we get one of my favorite parts of wrestling, which is sweaty, pretty manly men whispering sweet nothings at each other with their lips an inch from each other, making deep, deep eye contact. This is the kind of romance you don't get from football is all I'm saying. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. That's how you win a slammy, I think. [00:21:59] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:22:01] Speaker C: There's a lot of ways to win a slammy. [00:22:04] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:22:05] Speaker C: Could I buy a slammy? Like, is there a way for me, like, in. In the year 2025 to buy a slammy? [00:22:10] Speaker A: I think there's. There is no way in hell that there isn't someone who has been the recipient of a slammy who is not down hard enough that they will sell you a slammy. I'm sure if you search it, you'll probably find a slammy. [00:22:24] Speaker C: I've got. I got 250 bucks ready for. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Let's go. But in the meantime, they threaten you two with Undertaker. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Okay, so full disclosure. In all the Undertaker research that we watched, and we did, this was the first time I heard Paul Bearer speak. [00:22:43] Speaker C: I can't believe you never heard him speak. That's the whole point of him. [00:22:46] Speaker B: And can you. Can you. [00:22:48] Speaker C: Can you recreate him? Can I hear a Paul Bearer right now? [00:22:50] Speaker A: What, for me? [00:22:52] Speaker B: No, I was. I thought he was going to make me do it because I was. I was getting ready. [00:22:56] Speaker C: We could have a little contest. I mean, who wants it more? [00:23:03] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:23:03] Speaker C: What do you got? [00:23:04] Speaker B: I don't think I can do it very well. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah, but he gets the scare. You see, you got the vibrato in there. [00:23:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:15] Speaker A: No, he's a walking hammer film. [00:23:17] Speaker C: Yeah, he's supposed to sound like a ghost, right? Like, that's why he talks like that. [00:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, like a Foley artist would shake the big thing to do. Lightning noise or storm noise. Aluminum. [00:23:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, he's that guy. He's a human that. [00:23:30] Speaker A: Right. But unfortunately, that was just initially them warning us first. You have to deal with one other thing before we get to that. So we all remember on our. Our episode of Hate Speech where I talked about Triple H, Triple Paul, Hunter, Hurst, Helmsley. Yes. The guy who just really loves iron crosses because of motorcycles. And he named Gunther after a Nazi general. It was just an oopsie, guys. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah, an accident. He did a whoopsie daisy. He's a historian. [00:23:58] Speaker C: You know, sometimes historians, they just, you know. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker A: So he comes out to fight Aldo Montoya. That's Triple H. That's. That's Triple Paul. [00:24:09] Speaker B: Another question. Has. Has Triple H always been a dandy. [00:24:15] Speaker A: In the wwe? Yes. Yeah, He's. He's still fairly new at this point, and he's basically. His character is all the guys that. That Vince lives around in Connecticut that hate him because he's clearly not one of them. [00:24:32] Speaker C: So I'm so glad you framed it that way, because I was trying to figure out where these characters. Characters come from. Right. Like, Vince just kind of points and, like, this is just Vince's diary. [00:24:41] Speaker A: Y. [00:24:41] Speaker C: Like, all these characters that are coming out. So feeling like, what's he working through right now? [00:24:48] Speaker B: I don't know how the timeline lines up, because maybe this came before, but I am getting real, like, Logan Huntsberger, Gilmore girl boyfriend vibes from Triple H. [00:24:59] Speaker A: Like, he came before that. But I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't pull a little from, like, this guy. [00:25:06] Speaker B: I. I have seen. Seen pictures of Triple H. I was like, wow, that is a beefy dude. I bet he's a fucking badass. And he's coming out there to Classical Mute. I'm like, he's wearing what is. [00:25:17] Speaker A: Hair is fabulous. [00:25:19] Speaker B: I was like, they made Vega take off the mask. Like, he's just Vega. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:24] Speaker C: No, he's wearing, like, a dressage, like, coattails. [00:25:27] Speaker A: And. Yes. That's amazing. [00:25:30] Speaker B: I could not fucking. But I was like, I've been lied to my entire life. I. I was looking back at my entire life. It's like, I should have been watching this. Yeah. This is everything. And I missed it. [00:25:41] Speaker A: Well, I'm so happy that I dragged you into my hell because. Yes. That he's starting out like this. And they. They tell us that he's gonna meet the ultimate warrior at WrestleMania. [00:25:53] Speaker B: I am going to look up that fight and watch it. [00:25:56] Speaker A: Oh, it's the worst. The heads up to people who want to watch along on pay per view on the Patreon, please still come. But like come to watch like the worst Triple H jobber match to the Warriors. So I wanted to make sure we talked about this segment because everyone that has ever worked with the Ultimate Warrior could come on your show and do a six part series on the Ultimate Warrior. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Oh no, it's probably bad. [00:26:24] Speaker C: No, they're there to compliment him. It's like, oh, he was a nice guy. I can talk to him for hours. [00:26:28] Speaker A: When he died, Nate, rest in piss. Someone added him to a collage picture of dead wrestlers in heaven and posted it to Twitter like you do, right? The first comment was, there ain't no Ultimate Warrior in Heaven. [00:26:44] Speaker C: He's like down there fighting the doom guy right now. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Like, sure. Did the Ultimate War get to burn in hell? Sure. Is he also getting sucked off by Nancy Reagan also? Yes. Who's to say? Hold on to say. What is hell? [00:27:02] Speaker A: What? [00:27:03] Speaker C: What did he do? [00:27:05] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:27:06] Speaker C: Just, just give me the hit. Give me a hit. Give me a teaser. [00:27:09] Speaker A: Mostly nothing. He was a bodybuilder who didn't do cardio and did every steroid known to man. And okay, wrestle. Yes, sick, but which, you know, normally based. But he couldn't wrestle because when Lex Luger does that, it's ok. Lex learned how to wrestle, you know, so yeah, fine, but he was like a Lex Luger that couldn't actually wrestle. He just did cocaine and ran to the ring. And he couldn't do cardio. So he would run to the ring and be like, do his. But then he'd be gassed before the match starts, you know, like, like, all right, now what? And he can't do much else. And people hated working with him because he wasn't safe. He would go out there and just kick people's ass. And he had Vince telling him, you're my guy now. Like, look at you, you're huge. Look at those muscles. I am straight and I use my new Hogan. And like he tried. And like he tried to put him over is like the new Hulk Hogan. But like after a while people are like, well, I mean, it's like at the zoo and the monkey's not doing anything. You're like, well, do something. And he's like, shakes the ring. Like, yeah, we saw that, we saw that. Do something. [00:28:20] Speaker B: What? What he did was cocaine. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was more lines and more steroids. [00:28:25] Speaker C: I would go to the zoo and watch that monkey. I would specifically go for that monkey. [00:28:32] Speaker A: Oh my God. Imagine the monkey just doing a line and putting the warrior face pain on, just shaking branches. [00:28:42] Speaker C: I wouldn't want to wrestle that monkey, I guess. Yeah, you wouldn't want to. [00:28:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Needless to say, he's hated. [00:28:51] Speaker C: So I do have a question because, like, I haven't learned like who's good at wrestling and who's bad? Because I just haven't built that vision yet. [00:28:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:58] Speaker C: If I had to get, if I had to guess though, is Triple H, like good at his job? Is he a good wrestler? Is he like, do people like the job that he does? [00:29:06] Speaker A: Well, I mean, it's all very subjective and I probably. There's people who like, God, the Internet wrestling community sucks balls. Not you, Sickles. Listening. You are all wonderful. [00:29:19] Speaker C: Except for one of you. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we love you. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Yeah, here's $10. Star Wars Mama loves you. So, like, it's good. But like right now he's still pretty green. Like the match you watched, he's still pretty green. Aldo Montoya is pretty good wrestler and more of a veteran at this point. So they get a pretty good match going. [00:29:37] Speaker C: I was kind of liking it. Like, you know, the thing I mentioned to Tyler while we were watching is like, oh, he has a lot of follow through with his punches, right? Because like normally with wrestlers they kind of like, they stop, which is what you, what you're supposed to do, you know, that's supposed to actually punch the guy. But like he stops enough and then he has like an exaggerated follow through after, like the fake punch happens. I'm like, I like that. [00:29:58] Speaker A: No, it's a good, it's a good work punch. And he's not. That just is. He's not bad. But especially over time he's gonna think he's a lot better than he is the wrong way. And then we get into the iron cross. [00:30:16] Speaker C: He buys into his own character, basically. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Yeah, they all do. You guys like, that's. Eventually they all believe their own. And like he gets. You see him now and he's like the swath beautiful haired Connecticut man. But you're talking about seeing him later. That man does so much juice, like just so much steroids. And he comes back from an injury at one point looking twice the size. He is triple Paul times two. He's sixth ball. Like he's just huge. And, and then it's ridiculous. And he's also like torn his quad like so many times. And like, I don't. You're a nurse, right? I don't know how much you know about all that. But generally, the quad isn't a muscle you tear. [00:31:07] Speaker B: Well, as I was gonna say, like, with my. My medical experience, I. That is what we would say is that's bad. That's real bad. [00:31:17] Speaker A: You're not doing good if you. [00:31:19] Speaker B: It doesn't. Yeah, that doesn't. There's not a full recovery to be had, basically. [00:31:26] Speaker A: And like you. We basically, you find out after a while that there are certain muscles that tend to only get torn by people who are overworking them because they have the ability to. Because they're on a ton of steroids. Vince McMahon one time got so mad at two guys up the end of a Royal Rumble that he ran out to the ring screaming at them to get back in the ring and do it again. All this is live, right? So he's trying to keep it sort of kayfabe, but he's just pissed. And he's so mad that he runs into the ring and hits both his knees on the ring apron as he goes in and blows both his quads as he's getting into the ring. Can't even stand up. He's trying to stand up and he can't. And he's realizing he's trying to look tough. And he's just screaming at these guys from his ass in the corner because he just blew both his quads because he's on so much steroids. [00:32:22] Speaker B: Damn. That happened. And the Undertaker burned his teddy bear. [00:32:25] Speaker A: At the same time. Yeah. [00:32:27] Speaker B: No, no, no wonder he did all that bad stuff. He was really hurt people. Hurt people. [00:32:32] Speaker A: Oh, God. Himself. But yeah, God. So I wanted to make sure that we. We talked about Ultimate Warrior, because that guy also, he ended up being like, a racist, homophobe piece of queer phobe. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Addicted to drugs. Fights people is terrible at everything. Homophobe, homophobe, racist guy. I'll start calling the ultimate. My dad. [00:32:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, why would him and your dad, my mom, just get together and talk about it? [00:33:06] Speaker B: There wouldn't be talking. They'd be doing drugs and killing each other. [00:33:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Tequila. Yes. Holy. That's amazing. So, yes, that's that. But then, yes, the gold dust stuff happens. Blah, blah, blah. We quickly. Before we get to the man, the myth, the hated legend, I do have to say, next week, Sickos, for our. Our longtime listeners, mankind's coming. Mankind's coming. The vignette telling us has some real graphic design is my passion energy. But hell, yeah, Mick. But then, yes, we come back. For some reason, you can see people really did love the Undertaker as he comes out. They are losing their And I, I hate it. [00:33:50] Speaker B: Yeah, purple's not a good color on him. Yeah, you know, like, he gotta stick to black on black. Black and purple is not good for undertaker. [00:33:59] Speaker A: He switches it out to gray sometimes and then. Oh, he brought the purple back later in his career. Is like an homage. I, personally, I'm a sucker for the purple. That's like classic taker for me. But I get it. [00:34:10] Speaker B: The. It would work more if like he had a. And I'm sorry to go there. Had a better dye job. Like, yeah, like, you can see the red hair and it's just like, I'm okay. [00:34:23] Speaker C: Like, for me it was just like the purple. It was just like, it was. I'm not intimidated by purple as a color. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Comfortable enough in my gender. I'm not intimidated by a purple as a color. [00:34:35] Speaker C: Yeah, like, you know, it's like, oh, you like to have fun. [00:34:39] Speaker B: You can't do to me. Electric periwinkle. Get the out of here. [00:34:45] Speaker A: But maybe not someone who builds coffins. I don't know. It just seems like a hell of a nightlife. But yes, Paul Bearers, as we were discussed, is the star here. I. I love me a weird little guy. And Holy, what a weird little guy. [00:34:59] Speaker B: It. It dawned on me today what he reminds me of. And I. It finally hit me. Mike Lindell, the. My pillow guy. [00:35:07] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:35:09] Speaker B: After. After getting off crack because he kind of plumped up. So it's like, I guess crack is the. Getting off crack is the kind of steroid of non steroid use. I don't know. I'm still working on a formula for that one. But I. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Well, later on, Davey Boy Smith wants to hear about it because he loves steroids and crack. [00:35:28] Speaker B: So, you know, it seems like a winning combination. Stronger and faster. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Holy shit. Ultimate warrior again. Shake those rules. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:39] Speaker A: Undertaker shows us his five star promo skills. [00:35:42] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That was. I had to look. I was like, is he like. Is he reading or is his. Are his eyes just like, like the. How do you roll negative charisma in life? How do you do it? [00:35:55] Speaker C: Well, like, we were talking about it, like, because Char, your partner behind us, like, was he reading off a teleprompter? I'm like, no, I think he just memorized a script. [00:36:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, he gave it a go. [00:36:08] Speaker C: Well, and also I was just thinking, like, I bet you like, none of these guys like memorize a script, right? They just wing it. They just have general ideas of what you want to say and you say it and then that's how you get charisma Right? But, like, obviously he was just, like, trying to, like, regurgitate these lines, desperately trying to remember what he was told to say and just couldn't do it. [00:36:26] Speaker A: He just couldn't do it. [00:36:27] Speaker B: It was. That's when I started looking at my phone. I was like, I can't. I can't take any more of this bullshit guy. I can't let Paul do the work. Paul knows how to do it. [00:36:36] Speaker C: Yeah, he knows how to do it. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Even be a weird little guy, get people pay attention. [00:36:40] Speaker B: He sold it like he sorry undertaker. You don't have what it takes to do. [00:36:45] Speaker C: You're no Paul Bearer. [00:36:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know Paul Bearer. And sir, you are no Paul Bearer. [00:36:51] Speaker A: You. You're not even a Mike Lindell. Even though you want to be like that. What's worse than being the pillow guy but wanting to be the. My pillow guy. Please, Mr. President, please, please save sports for my daughter, who. Okay, so I'm sorry real quick because we talked about a little bit on hate speech, but they said, God damn him so hard. So he says he. His daughter wants to play football and doesn't want to play with boys, Right? [00:37:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Okay, so show me a high school girls football team. Show me one. They don't exist. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Yep. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Like. Like he's talking about a thing that already doesn't exist because of patriarchy, and he's blaming it on my queer gay ass. And I just don't understand. Well, it's. None of it makes sense. All right, that's all right. See, that was the whole point of having you on is the spillover from hate speech. [00:37:52] Speaker B: Just let it out. Let it out. I'm a nurse. If you don't let the hate out, you'll get cancer. That's medical advice. Certified. No, please, please don't. That's not medical. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Please don't sue me. I am not a professional. [00:38:03] Speaker B: No. [00:38:04] Speaker A: But yes. So thankfully, that's over. Rest in peace. Go into commercial, we get a look at the Slammy Awards. Not a real thing, just an idea Vince had. They're gonna. They talk about it like it's the 20th annual Slammy Awards. And it's like. It's like the second, maybe third time. [00:38:23] Speaker C: Cool statue, though. Cool statue. I like. You know, just like you could tell the fake plastic gold lifting up a guy like, perfect. [00:38:31] Speaker A: It's gonna make for an awesome prop for Owen Hart for years to come. So that's that. It's worth it. At least we get a brief look at Doc Hendricks singing the Bad Street USA song, trying desperately to relevant. No. And for the third week in a row, we get Brett and Sean Rocky training videos. [00:38:50] Speaker B: That was so boring. [00:38:52] Speaker A: It was so bad. This is the third week in a row they've done this to us. Guys, this is not good. Well, is Sean pretending to be Vicious Animal in the sparring ring and running some stairs, you know? [00:39:05] Speaker B: Nate, do you want to pull your money? A Slammy Award, $800 autographed Seth Rollins, the Miz, Charlotte Flair. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Okay, no. [00:39:17] Speaker C: Well, Charlotte Flair is slamming. She got a divorce. [00:39:25] Speaker A: That's her dad. You're probably thinking. You're probably thinking married to Ric Flair. No, that's your dad. [00:39:30] Speaker C: Okay. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Yeah, which, I mean, look, it says. [00:39:34] Speaker B: It says Flair Woo written on it. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Wait, only 800. [00:39:40] Speaker B: $800. [00:39:41] Speaker A: Okay. Actually, I kind of. I kind of want that. That's amazing. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Oh, there's a Roman Reigns Seth Rollins sign. Slammy. Sorry. I'll get us off Slammies. [00:39:53] Speaker C: It's more interesting than that fucking training montage. Yeah, because like, you know, I was like looking at the gym and it's like, yeah, I work out. Occasionally I go to crunch fitness and like, oh, yes, I'm strong now. Like, that gym looked like dog. And I think that was on purpose, right? They're trying to do the working class. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Yeah, the Rocky. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Yeah, they're trying to do Rocky. And then when they go to Brett, it's Rocky Ford because he's running in the snow. He's staring longingly at a Canadian horizon. He's doing some cardio. His dad's kicking his ass, which is really. It's all kind of funny in hindsight. [00:40:26] Speaker C: They get trained in tough style, so it makes. [00:40:30] Speaker A: But it's just Brett getting his ass kicked by an old guy and swimming and like saying he, Sean. And it's not. It doesn't look great for you, dude. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Like, no, no, you're losing already. [00:40:42] Speaker C: I mean, he should be drinking eggs, right? Like, I wanna. I wanna see him like, you know, really doing things that would be punishing. Like drink 20 eggs, please, punch some meat, you know. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, that being said, his dad is famous for hurting the out of people, so even his dad probably was legit kicking his ass. Oh, yeah, No, I believe that all. [00:41:01] Speaker C: These people have been abused. Like, that's believe. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Speaking of people who have been abused by Stu Hart, we come back to the ring to his little brother, Owen Hart, the king of hearts, because it's a whole family dynasty of up little dudes all wrestling and on drugs. And then we get Ahmed Johnson. Ahmed is still pretty green I love him, though. [00:41:24] Speaker B: Ahmed. I was drawn to this man. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Like, could not be. [00:41:29] Speaker B: My God. [00:41:31] Speaker A: Just looks like a wrestler. He. [00:41:34] Speaker B: He looks like a wrestler. He controlled the room. He was expressive. He. [00:41:38] Speaker C: I want to. [00:41:39] Speaker B: Playful. [00:41:39] Speaker C: I hate to say, I want to have a beer with him. [00:41:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:42] Speaker C: You know, like, that kind of, like, attitude. We're like, I. I might actually like this person. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, little finger twirls to get the crowd engaged. The looks he was giving. Oh, my God. I was like, cancel every other. Like, my. My biggest note in this section, I wrote in all capital letters. God damn you. The British bulldog, you and his wife. [00:42:05] Speaker A: Who is sitting at the ringside. [00:42:08] Speaker C: Churchill comes again. [00:42:10] Speaker A: Yeah. God damn it. He's still the. Davey's having a hard time paying attention because he heard you say crack earlier. So, like, he's just very distracted. Holy. But this ought to be a great match because Ahmed, like, he's green, but he's. Look at him. And Owen is the kind of guy who's so good that it's hard to have a bad match with him. Like, he's just that good at what he's doing. That being said, Ahmed has a reputation for hurting people. [00:42:40] Speaker C: I almost, like, called my shot. Was like, let's. Let's see. [00:42:43] Speaker A: I was holding bow was letting you guys go. I was like, no. Yeah. Keep building it up. Talk about how great he is. Apparently he sucked. Not great. He just hurt people, which kills me because I loved him as a kid and I still do, because all those things, he looks, like, amazing. I'm sure it was disappointing to Vince, too, because Vince was like, oh, my God, this guy's gonna give me. Get me money. Like, holy. But he was just not that great. And. And they. They don't know what to do with them because. [00:43:11] Speaker C: Was it just like a training thing? It's just like, you know, just like with, you know, a couple years of training, like, you'll be on top. Or it's just like he just didn't want to do it properly. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Bit of column A, bit of column. [00:43:21] Speaker C: B because, well, I guess we won't know, right? [00:43:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I mean, he kept at it. He stated he was in the FED for a few years doing little to nothing, and he ended up in WCW for a while, too. Not had a great time. I think it was like, he was green and he could have gone with some more training, but he just kind of had the attitude that he was huge. He didn't have to. And I think part of that's on Vince, too, because Vince will have A tendency to blow smoke up these guys ass and like, and be like, no, look at you. You're this big, huge man. I'm so straight muscly and oily and, and you don't need to be great because I think you're great. And I'm gonna make you great because I say you're great and everything I say goes. So like, he just kind of, I think he kind of didn't. He, he was like, it. I don't have to be better, you know? That being said, he also dealt with racism. [00:44:14] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I call, I called that. Like, okay, this match is gonna end with the black man losing. Is my, is my guess. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Like, like I was gonna say, like you say he had a reputation for hurting people, but from a position of oppression. Is he really hurting anyone that matters? [00:44:33] Speaker A: And also, also, here's the thing. Like I told Joe on, on hate speech, you don't necessarily know who you can believe when you hear all these stories. [00:44:42] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:43] Speaker A: You know, and, and like you said, it was hard to find dirt on Undertaker, even though he is a. When you hear these stories, you, you'll have Ahmed Johnson saying, I got shit for being black and being green and they were super racist and didn't really give me the opportunities to get better because of the racism. And you'll have all these other white good old boy guys who are third generations in the business being like, ah, he was just green and hurting people and no one liked him. He had a shit attitude and it's like, okay, well, I refuse to, I. [00:45:16] Speaker C: Refuse to believe that British bulldog and Jake the Snake could be racist. Doesn't strike me. I don't know Vader. I don't know Vader all that well. I bet you he's not racist. [00:45:26] Speaker A: No, no. Vader was cool. Vader grew up in Oakland. Vader was like, okay. Vader was actually chill for my chill. [00:45:36] Speaker C: I bet you I did call Jake the snake though. I bet. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, come on. Also, though, Jake the Snake is one of those stories where if you ever want to just be the most depressed you've ever been in your whole life, learn about Jake the Snake. [00:45:52] Speaker C: I was feeling bad for the snake. I like how that's, that's not, that's not a good environment for a snake. He probably goes through a snake episode. [00:46:00] Speaker A: He literally gets them from local people. Like he doesn't have his own snake. He doesn't like snakes, does he? [00:46:06] Speaker B: The snake? [00:46:06] Speaker A: No, I hope not. No. He hates them. No. [00:46:08] Speaker C: How. [00:46:09] Speaker A: Why'd you go there? Anamorphing time Guys. God damn it. Right to the animal body work me. But no, he actually hates the snake. There was. There was a storyline in the. I want to say late 80s, early 90s, where a guy named Earthquake, Big old dude. Yeah. As you imagine, sat on the snake and crushed it and turned into snake meat and then made burgers with it. That was a storyline for children. And did he. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Did he really kill a snake? [00:46:42] Speaker A: No, they switched. [00:46:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:44] Speaker A: This is like. [00:46:45] Speaker C: This isn't like that Punjabi brothers movie that we watched where that guy just ate a snake? An actual snake. [00:46:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Three times. Yeah. [00:46:51] Speaker C: Jesus. [00:46:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we watched. We watched an Indian produced action movie where they just had this guy who would bite the head off. Lizards. And they were real lizards and they do it three different times in the movie. And it's like, wow, they just. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Osborne. What the fuck? [00:47:05] Speaker B: They just do whatever they want. [00:47:07] Speaker C: I'm surprised that there's not more of that in REST wrestling, actually. I. I guess like, they had. They were trying to be on television, right? [00:47:11] Speaker A: Yeah, they did that on television. That's a scary thing. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Like, we had regulatory stuff in our movies that they just don't have. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And no, as little regulation as possible in wrestling. Vince made sure of that. [00:47:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:26] Speaker A: Like in court, like in like the late 80s, he went in court and said, please don't tax me. Like I'm a sport. This isn't real. [00:47:33] Speaker C: It's a church, actually. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. That's put. Probably what he was going for. Cult. That's a church, right? Yeah, yeah. [00:47:42] Speaker C: The undertaker had the ministry of darkness. Allows me to have tax exemption status. [00:47:48] Speaker A: It was a soft run. Yeah, yeah. I don't have to pay taxes because it's a ministry. Yeah. We're talking turkey here, but yeah. Good. They get a shot of Bulldog trying at the ringside. Looking like he's probably up. He's like just blinking hard at the lights and like, I'm just like, oh, my God. When we come back from commercial and Ahmed's hitting a huge spine buster and sets him up for his finisher. And I was like, all right, cool. Awesome. This is gonna end this way. [00:48:17] Speaker C: But I enjoyed the fight, right. [00:48:18] Speaker B: I enjoyed the fight as well, up. [00:48:20] Speaker C: Until, like, everybody showed up. Yeah, it was a good fight. [00:48:22] Speaker A: Exactly. Kind of like I call. It's like, Owen's gonna get a good match out of this guy, but they refuse to pay any attention to it. So, yeah, we come back and of course, Vader or Bulldog's not gonna let that happen. So he runs in and loses the match for his friend, which I will never understand. So it's cluster time. Bring Vader in a sweatshirt. And like I said it last week, he looks like when he put a sweater on a dog. It's always weird cuz he's like in his full gear than with a sweatshirt over. It's with the mask. [00:48:54] Speaker B: It's just sometimes you get cold. [00:48:56] Speaker C: The weird. The weird choice for me is Yoko's like. I don't know why he was there. He just kind of like showed up like. All right. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Because he used to be a bad guy with Bulldog and Owen. And that's the story. [00:49:05] Speaker C: There's a history there. Okay. [00:49:06] Speaker A: There's a history there. A very. A week long one. Too much credit. [00:49:12] Speaker C: I was just thinking from like a narrative standpoint, like there's already too many like, characters there. Just having Yokozuna show up is like, there's too much. Yeah, give me a Vader and Bulldog. Sure. Maybe like a Jake the Snake, I think. Yeah, but like. [00:49:25] Speaker B: Or have Ahmed come back and just beat all their asses at the same time. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. There's way better ways this could go. But they're setting up a Wrestlemania match with all these guys. And if it. If it feels awkward, it's because it's awkward. Like it's. Last week. The guest piper, our guest piper said it's like a match you make with your action figures. Like, ah, I need baby faces. I got Jake the Snake. I guess I got a Yokozuda. And. [00:49:49] Speaker C: And it's like Cobra Commander shows up, you know? [00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Does the Cobra clutch. Because you don't have a chic. Yeah, so that makes. That makes sense. The Hulk Hogan. But these are Vince's action figures, so it really attracts. And they cut in the last three minutes to the promised Bret Hart music video. [00:50:07] Speaker B: Oh my God. [00:50:08] Speaker C: I was. [00:50:09] Speaker B: I was enjoying it. The same three bars for three minutes, just over and over. Gonna light the fire Gotta have desire inside. Yeah. [00:50:19] Speaker C: No, I'm a real American. Can't match that quality. [00:50:23] Speaker B: It's no. It's no. Be a Man Hulk by Macho Man Randy, come on. I don't care. I love that album. [00:50:33] Speaker A: But this is all well good. But more importantly, it means no billionaire Ted Sickos at home. Long time listeners. Take note. We've made it. We've made it to the end of the dark nightmare. So, y'all, I don't know if you watched anything before this. If you didn't, I don't blame you. But for like the last three to four months, the last three minutes of this show has been taken up by a shitty sketch comedy of them doing basically borderline libel against Ted Turner and, like, making fun of Hulk Hogan and Macho man for being old and, like, all this petty because they're mad that Nitro's kicking their ass. And they've been doing it for, like, three and a half months, and this is the first time that they haven't had one. And I think they finally got in trouble because, like, we find out later, it's come out recently even that, like, he got letters from the network being like, you gotta stop making fun of Ted Turner. He's our friend. Like. Like, you're talking about how he's a evil capitalist. And, like, vince, we're all evil capitalists. You can't. You can't. You can't be saying this, but instead we get Brett, music video. They're reaching for footage. There's at least twice where there's just shots of him talking on the phone, like, pretending to break the neck of an inflatable dinosaur. [00:51:52] Speaker B: You know, leaving, leaving, leaving. The same club three different times. [00:51:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it was just. [00:51:59] Speaker B: It was so weird. [00:51:59] Speaker C: It felt very, like, tiger beats to me. Whereas it's like. Like, I'm supposed to be swooning over. Over this, you know, this. [00:52:07] Speaker B: This man, this hitman, this hitman, this trained deadly assassin. [00:52:12] Speaker A: Yes, right. [00:52:13] Speaker C: But, like, it's like. Like. But like, it was framed in this, like, you know, kind of teen idol viewpoint. I'm like. [00:52:18] Speaker B: I just. [00:52:19] Speaker C: I don't get it. I'm sorry. [00:52:21] Speaker B: That's because it's for teenagers. [00:52:23] Speaker C: I'm like, maybe, though. I don't know. [00:52:25] Speaker A: They don't know yet. That. Let's just say we are very much in this point where they're like. Before this, it was aimed for, like, younger than teenagers. You wanted, like. Like, kids, you know, like, for me. [00:52:36] Speaker C: At this time, right? [00:52:37] Speaker B: Like. Yes. Yeah, exactly. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Yeah, even. Well, kind of. But y'all missed out on some because then they had a couple episodes where they would start with a graphic warning, and it's just Sunny being hot in a bikini, talking about how we're gonna do it till we're raw. And. And, like. And then going into, like, their normal for kids wrestling program, and it's like, what. They don't know what they're doing. Like, and they don't know how to change because, like, Vince isn't a human. Well, it's like he doesn't know how humans work. [00:53:08] Speaker B: It's like that thing, like. And. Sorry to get a little trigger warning. Trigger warning. E. Or content warning. E. Yeah, it's that thing that. That abusers do where they show something over sexualized someone who doesn't quite understand it, and that sort of grooms them into this behavior, which. Holy. So right, though, like, this is for kids. But if you attach that onto the front of it, then you're showing these kids something that may make them be like. [00:53:34] Speaker C: Turns them into more of a real man, you know, like, yeah, yeah. [00:53:38] Speaker A: I would hate to break it to you, Vince. It didn't work on me. Quite the opposite of that. [00:53:47] Speaker C: Vince is so upset. Right? [00:53:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:52] Speaker C: There'S that. But also, like, I was gonna put it more into the category. This one's for daddy, right? Where it's like, all right, so if. If father and son are watching the show, then, you know, give something for the dad to look at, which is hot babes. [00:54:03] Speaker A: And that's probably what they're thinking. They're like, we're going for the older demographic, but in execution, it's just awkward and weird and groomy because Vince is a creep and, like, he doesn't know how to do this normal. [00:54:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's that weird shit that shows up in some children's media. Like, I think of the brave little toaster when the air conditioner dies and how sexy that was and how it's like, what? Never mind. Let's continue with Nitro. [00:54:33] Speaker C: Not Nitro. [00:54:36] Speaker B: Macho Man. [00:54:38] Speaker A: And the Slammy Award for the most awkward transition in the history of this podcast, and that includes mine. You're tuned in to Ghost Coast Studios, the world's first and only podcast network built for creators, activists, and entrepreneurs with something to say. Gripping audio documentaries, conversations that spark change. We're here to bring your ideas to life. Ready for more? Head to Ghostcoast Video for shows that matter. Tools to help you create, and a community that's totally redefining what a podcast network can be. Ghost Coast Studios, meet your dreams. Fantastic. All right, Nitro. [00:55:24] Speaker C: Well, hold on, though. There is a transition here, because in Nitro, they're making fun of the. The girlfriend of the booty master. [00:55:33] Speaker B: No, the booty man. [00:55:34] Speaker A: The booty man. [00:55:35] Speaker C: The booty man. [00:55:36] Speaker A: Booty man. Booty. The. [00:55:38] Speaker C: The booty babe. They said, oh, she looks like a lampshade. And so that's. That's. And that's the transition from Brave. A little toaster. Like sexy. Sexy lampshade. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Exactly. We'll get there. Poor Kimberly. [00:55:51] Speaker C: I fixed it, right? [00:55:54] Speaker B: I'm all fixed now. I'm better. I'm not gonna harm anyone. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Just putting duct tape up I fixed it. [00:56:00] Speaker B: It's fine. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Well, let's see what it's like on the live stream side of things. It's the night after the uncensored pay per view again. Patreon, folks. I'll be up. There is flame, pyro and indoor fireworks. And I'm just imagining inhaling all that smoke like hell. Yeah, the 90s. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Guys are embarrassing me. But speaking of appreciation and dogs, Mago and Pepe have Cowper and cow, or Cowper and cowboys. And I'm pleased. So, yes, Pepe exists there. Everyone should know. He's there every episode. And he, besides Goldust is my favorite part of the week. [00:56:36] Speaker C: Well, it was so bizarre to me because, like, I was squinting my eyes and I mentioned, like, on a shitty crt, like, it probably looked way worse. And I'm like, is that a dog? Like, what was he holding? I wasn't quite sure. And like, I think it's a dog. [00:56:51] Speaker B: What is that vague brown and white area that he is just clinging to? I don't. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Just kind of shaking. Weird. Is it? Are you as a scared rat? What? What's going on here? [00:57:02] Speaker C: I'm also. I'm a Pepe appreciator. Once I realized it was a dog, I was like, okay, we must protect from mango. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Yeah. But they tell us that we got three title matches. Giant versus Ric Flair. Okay. Eric says the Giant would actually, actually eat the title. That pleases me. I want to see that. [00:57:23] Speaker B: That was. Yeah, there was. So maybe we'll get into it when we've finished talking about nitro. But the trashiness of nitro is so beautiful. [00:57:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it is. What's that, like, stamped steel that you would see? Like. [00:57:39] Speaker A: Yeah, like the industrial stamp steel everywhere. Yeah. [00:57:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, it felt like I have fond memories and maybe someone out there knows of this show called Hard Times. Yeah, we're like, at like midnight, they would just play, like, metal music videos. [00:57:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:54] Speaker B: New metal music videos on Saturday. Saturday nights on Fox. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:58] Speaker C: And like, it was just like this. Like, it brought me back to a time and place where, like, everything was hard and metal and there were sparks flying everywhere. And it's just like, I was into it. I was into nitro. [00:58:10] Speaker A: And that, like, almost never really changes. And like, I love that. Same with their intro. Like, Raw's gonna go through so many intros, but Raw nitros just never changes because it's not broken. It's amazing. They got it right away. [00:58:25] Speaker B: It's. Yeah. Like, I don't think I'll ever forget that. When they said, what, his face is more smashed up than Princess Diana's car crash. That was. Oh, my God. [00:58:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:39] Speaker B: I was like, I kind of see the formula here. Like, there's a guy named Bootyman and they're making these edgy, trashy jokes. Like, I get why people enjoy this. [00:58:49] Speaker A: Yeah. And you see more of what Vince is trying to do. Like, Vin and Lawler are trying to be edgy, but they're not funny. And they don't have souls, so they don't know how to be human. Like, it doesn't. It doesn't work. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Sounds weird when they're, when they're talking about Lex Luger and they say, he'll pat you on the back because he's looking for a soft spot to put the knife. It's like, God damn, I'm not gonna forget that phrase. That fucking rocks. Like, I know he handed it to Vince for, like, his great showmanship, just being electric, magnetic. Just all these great things about him. But the way these announcers on Nitro handled this and, like, we're riffing was a lot more fun. [00:59:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And I think that's amazing. Well, you like Vince. I'm like, well, you watched Raw first. You didn't get, you didn't get Bobby Heenan, like, Green Stabber do it. So, yeah, the commentary is overall always better on Nitro. They actually commentate on the match. Speaking of our first grabs, Belfast bruiser Fit Finley. I love this guy. He's amazing. This dude is not someone you want to with. Like, he looks like a Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome extra. [00:59:58] Speaker B: That's exactly what I was gonna say. Yeah. [01:00:00] Speaker A: But he will kick your ass and then sing a song about it because that's how us Irish do. [01:00:06] Speaker C: He reminded me of. He reminded me of like, a, a, a, A larger Bennett from Commando. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:13] Speaker C: Like different continents. Like, yeah, I know Bennett was Australian, but it's like, it's that same kind of, like, attitude. [01:00:18] Speaker B: He was also in Mad Max, Road Warrior, so. [01:00:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, there you go. [01:00:21] Speaker B: He was the pink Mohawk. [01:00:23] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like the same vibrations off those two. But, yes, I was a fan of the Belfast. [01:00:29] Speaker B: There's something about thick, hard men that could possibly wear chain mail that just speak to me. [01:00:39] Speaker A: You know, I, I like when people know things about themselves. That's good. [01:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I figured it out. [01:00:45] Speaker C: And it's such a shame, too, because I was going to give the match to him. However, Macho man, like, I, I listen, I, I don't know what the quality of Macho man matches are. I enjoyed Macho man in this one. And in particular, I was a big fan of Macho's brow. The lighting that they had on the. On poor Macho Man Randy Savage, the way they just highlighted that caveman brow where you just like, you couldn't see. [01:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah. The light, like, he takes his sunglasses off, like, oh, that's. That's his beady eyes. [01:01:15] Speaker C: You don't need sunglasses. [01:01:17] Speaker B: And then the top down light hitting his six head that just hangs over his sunken eyes. There's a visor of blackness where his eyes should be. I'm like. I was like, I understand caveman. I understand the missing link. I understand all of this now. [01:01:32] Speaker C: That's why he wears the shades, because you could never see his eyes. [01:01:35] Speaker B: Have to feed these guys cocaine and steroids. [01:01:40] Speaker A: He's our biggest boy. He's Florida man, Randy Savage. And this actually reeks of Baker. Like, these are two guys who are real good at this shit. [01:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it fucking whipped ass. Like, watching Macho man climb up to the top rope and throw his arms out. I'm like, this is what it's about, people. This is what we grew up for. This is it. [01:01:59] Speaker A: And that's just like Vince wants to on these guys who were his guys. It's like, oh, they're old and they don't have any more. And I'm like, I don't know, man. I think he's still got it. Like, this rules. [01:02:11] Speaker B: And like, I really love the energy of Nitro that it, like, is one half a wrestling show and the other half a divorced man's rights show. [01:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:23] Speaker B: Had a strong identity that was truly incredible. It's like, oh, there's Macho Man's wife with his money. Oh, she's giving it to the crowd. [01:02:32] Speaker A: So good. I love this, though. We're getting into, like. So, yeah, this match is ferocious and. And we are getting into Macho's unhinged Hoss era. And like, it's my favorite. He just starts to get more paranoid and, like, lose his mind more and more every week. And it's so. Because Rick's with him, basically. It's so great. But yeah, this match, like, I don't have much to say about this match other than go watch it. [01:03:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun. It's fun as hell. [01:03:03] Speaker A: This is a really fun match because, like, fit is amazing. Like, he's one of the best to ever fake sports. Like, just. [01:03:11] Speaker B: And there's some pretty good, like, Ireland comments where it's like, well, he grew up in Ireland and That's a dark place for a young, strong lad. I was like, is it. Is it really, though? [01:03:21] Speaker A: What do you mean? What are you talking about? Get out, you black intense. Get out of here. I did the shitty Irish accent again specifically for Alkaline. That was for you, buddy. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Oh, can we do. We can do shitty Irish accents. [01:03:34] Speaker A: If you want to make my buddy out pissed, you can. [01:03:36] Speaker C: Yeah, go. [01:03:37] Speaker A: I did it on Hate Speech and he was like, podcasters, American podcasters, please stop doing it. I was like, I do it because it's bad. [01:03:44] Speaker B: I don't know that I can do it very well. Hello, Alkaline. My name's Tyler. [01:03:53] Speaker C: Hold on, wait. Finley. Actually, he's right in front of me right now. Do you have anything to say? [01:03:58] Speaker B: I think I could beat Rondy Savage if we could fight once more. [01:04:02] Speaker C: Oh, I. I feel bad for Mr. Savage right now. I don't think he's ready for. [01:04:06] Speaker B: He's smash his brains on the streets of Dublin. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Well, that's it then. Let's do the thing. Bring it out here. Fit. [01:04:13] Speaker C: No, I have a question though. Is he actually Irish? Okay, to confirm, I didn't know. [01:04:20] Speaker A: No, he is actually Irish. Thank. [01:04:23] Speaker B: And I do, I do want to apologize to the great people of Ireland. My last. My last name has the word Mick in it, so I kind of feel a kinship there. So, yeah, there you go. [01:04:34] Speaker C: Just don't say you're Irish, though. [01:04:35] Speaker A: It's allowed. Yeah. [01:04:36] Speaker B: Don't what? [01:04:36] Speaker C: Don't say you're Irish. [01:04:37] Speaker B: I'm not saying I'm Irish. I'm saying I feel a kinship with them. That's it. Jesus Christ. [01:04:44] Speaker C: Let me get you a beer. [01:04:47] Speaker A: I hope. I hope Al stops listening now. That's amazing. [01:04:51] Speaker B: I don't have a con opener for this here longer you've given me. Oh, you shouldn't have given me permission. [01:05:01] Speaker A: Can I resend it? Can I take it back? [01:05:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it's your show. I'll rein it in. [01:05:05] Speaker A: I'm taking it back. [01:05:07] Speaker B: I'm reigning it in. That's right. We're doing my maestro now. [01:05:13] Speaker A: Well, I breathe a sigh of relief, not just for that, but because this match was all grabs, no run ins. RAW had me on edge because of all the run ins, but this was just a good match. Yeah, we come back to mean Gene is back. He was gone last week and thankfully he's not dead, but he has some exped exposition time with Ric Flair, Liz and woman. And he is feeling very, very good about it. So I have questions about Woman. [01:05:40] Speaker C: I've been like sitting on questions about woman for all my life. I just need to know what is woman and who is woman. [01:05:49] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:05:50] Speaker B: Is Matt Walsh here? Shut the up. [01:05:53] Speaker A: Matt Walsh has the same question. [01:05:55] Speaker C: Listen, we. This is the only time me and Matt Walsh will have the same question. [01:05:58] Speaker A: This is a trans podcast. You're not allowed to ask what is a woman? [01:06:02] Speaker C: But, like, the help, though. [01:06:04] Speaker B: I need help. [01:06:05] Speaker A: Woman is. Is real name is Nancy Sullivan. She is in at this time married to Kevin Sullivan, the taskmaster. [01:06:14] Speaker B: Okay. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Who we see at some point, she. He, like, gave her the name Woman when they had like a satanic panic stable in Florida. So, like, she was just. [01:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Taskmaster was like the leader of this satanic cult in Florida championship wrestling. [01:06:34] Speaker B: These answers only lead to more questions. [01:06:36] Speaker A: Yeah, right. I mean, she just showed up and she was like the teenage girl that he, like, groomed to Satan and he just. [01:06:43] Speaker C: There was like a Damien baby situation. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Okay, so Woman. I love Woman. Woman is really great at this. She's great at just being fierce and like, awesome. So here's the thing, though. [01:06:57] Speaker B: I also love Woman. [01:06:59] Speaker C: I. I listen, we all love Woman. [01:07:00] Speaker A: Woman. So remember, remember hate speech Your. Your episode that I was on? That thing we did? The reason you're here? Remember when we talked about Chris Benoit? [01:07:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:11] Speaker C: Oh, oh, no, no. [01:07:12] Speaker A: Remember when we talked about how there was this guy who worked himself into his shoot because he wrote a story about this guy stealing his wife and then it actually happened and then she got murdered by Chris Benoit? [01:07:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember that part. [01:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Nancy Sullivan changed her name Nancy Benoit. That is Chris Benoit's wife that he murdered. So I'm very sorry to bring it all the way down. So. [01:07:35] Speaker C: So Woman is not with us. [01:07:37] Speaker B: I. I changed my. I changed. I changed my sentiment. I loved Woman. [01:07:43] Speaker A: God. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. That is the darkest this show has ever gotten. Thank you. Holy. [01:07:53] Speaker B: But yeah, let me just say how sorry I am. [01:07:57] Speaker C: Don't. Don't put this on the Irish. [01:08:00] Speaker A: They are not an escape route. [01:08:04] Speaker B: I love that we come into podcasts and never get invited back because of that. Because of how I act. [01:08:09] Speaker C: Because the way we treat the Irish. [01:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Not to do with Nancy Benoit, but yes, that. That's who Woman is, unfortunately. [01:08:17] Speaker C: Okay, question. Questions answered. [01:08:22] Speaker B: No more promises kept. [01:08:24] Speaker A: No more questions about Woman. Yeah, promises. Get that treat. That'll teach you to ask, what is Woman? Here's the thing. [01:08:33] Speaker C: I do have a better follow up question, which is what was the WCW hotline? Because there was an ad for the middle of WCW hotline, like it was like also like a dollar fifty a minute. I'm like, who's calling this thing? [01:08:45] Speaker B: Kids need to get permission. Oh, boy. Well, not because of content, because it's money. Yeah, I know. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Well, they should have because of the content. The, the. The WCW hotline is Mean jeans, baby. Basically you call in and there's recorded segments of Mean Jean saying a bunch of that he made up and, and letting people think that it's like behind the scenes scoop. [01:09:14] Speaker B: Okay, that makes sense because he's like, call the hotline to get the. [01:09:18] Speaker C: Yeah, okay, so like, but like not about like woman. [01:09:23] Speaker A: It's certainly not. [01:09:25] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:09:25] Speaker A: But no, it was just. And it's funny because those Ted Turner, Billionaire Ted skits would make fun of Scheme Gene for having the hotline. [01:09:34] Speaker C: I mean, rightfully so. I'm sure. Like, there's so many like 100 bills coming in parents. Because like kids, unfortunately, they did that. [01:09:42] Speaker A: For a while and the next thing you know, WWF has the superstar line. You can call and talk to Jim Ross for tidbits. So. [01:09:50] Speaker B: God damn you. [01:09:52] Speaker A: Vince was just like making fun of him for. And they go, well, that's a good idea. [01:09:55] Speaker C: To be fair though, like, that. That was everywhere. Every single show had something similar. It wasn't just this. I remember that I called one of those phone lines. Oh, well, it was like it was the Ninder power hotline because I wanted to get hints. [01:10:09] Speaker B: Okay, sure it was. [01:10:10] Speaker A: Sure it was. [01:10:11] Speaker C: But like, yeah, that was just everywhere. It's just like. It is, it is funny to me because like it's all recorded. Like it's such a foreign idea now that you would call into a hotline to hear like a recorded message for like a dollar fifty a minute. [01:10:24] Speaker A: They did that so much and it worked. That's why they kept doing it. [01:10:28] Speaker C: Because kids are stupid. [01:10:29] Speaker B: Kids are stupid. [01:10:31] Speaker A: Speaking of things that work, even though they shouldn't, this segment, like, mostly because Woman. Woman would do this thing where she was always hitting on Mean Gene, trying to make him like pop. Like trying to make him like break character, basically. So she's like, dude. And he just gives her an unhand me, woman. And I was like, all right. I laugh so hard at that. I missed all of Rick's rant. Liz is holding a stack of Macho's bills and this is like high school theater level prop work. I love it because they were ones. [01:11:04] Speaker C: It's kind of hard to make it ratings with ones these days. I don't know, like, I don't know how inflation has affected. [01:11:09] Speaker B: It's like she Took half of Macho Man's money. She's so cruel. Oh, God, they're ones. [01:11:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:16] Speaker B: She's so cruel. [01:11:18] Speaker C: He didn't have that much money. [01:11:21] Speaker A: That's how you got. We're not an independent contractor, okay? I don't get guaranteed funds. All right, so, like. Yeah, it's not great, but I guess Lex knocked Ric Flair out at the pay per view, so he's no longer allowed to sit with them. That's good enough. Back to the ring. It's Jerry Lynn under his mask as JL and Conan. And this is gonna be something else. These are cruiserweights, so, like. And these two guys know lucha. Like, so this style is. Is kind of new to the big leagues in America at this point. But, like, this is what normal modern wrestling is now. [01:11:59] Speaker B: And. And Nate's gonna hate me for this. He hated. He hated me this for during when I mentioned this. Yeah, but jail is the coolest. That's the coolest wrestling costume I have ever seen. [01:12:11] Speaker C: Absolutely not. [01:12:11] Speaker B: The purple, the shoulder pads, the cape, the sick mask. I like. [01:12:17] Speaker C: What was his insignia? What was that thing on his. [01:12:19] Speaker B: I don't give a. He's Jail J and L. Because he looks so cool. [01:12:25] Speaker C: No, he looks like Bible man. Like, he has, like, he has this outfit where it's just like. Like he's a friendly kind of like knockoff superhero. [01:12:33] Speaker B: Well, I happen to think. [01:12:34] Speaker A: Are you trying to tell me Bible man wasn't cool? [01:12:36] Speaker B: I happen to think Christ is very cool. Like Garrett. She agrees with me. [01:12:42] Speaker C: I'm just saying that, like, you know, do kids find Bible man cool? [01:12:46] Speaker B: No, but we as God fearing adults, as an elevated mind with my powerful adult brain, I think J, and possibly Bible man is cool. [01:12:56] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:57] Speaker C: I'm just, you know, a differing opinion. [01:13:00] Speaker B: I'm sorry. It was. [01:13:02] Speaker C: One day you will see the light of Quran and like, you'll understand why I don't like Bible man. [01:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I have heard Jerry Lynn use a racial slurs. So, I mean, he could still be. [01:13:13] Speaker B: Okay, okay. All right. Hold on. Which one? No. [01:13:17] Speaker A: All of them. [01:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's bad. Bad. It's bad. [01:13:21] Speaker A: I mean, he is pretending to be a Lucha, but he's very much like a white dude, so. But that's all right. He did learn lucha proper, so that's. [01:13:29] Speaker B: I saw that he had long flowing red, blonde, like strawberry blonde hair. That was crazy. [01:13:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:37] Speaker C: I will say the cape. The cape actually did help. Like, there needs to be more capes. I didn't see enough capes in wrestling. [01:13:42] Speaker B: I just like, this is this Is cool. It's fun for me. I'm sorry. [01:13:46] Speaker A: Lucha, like, lucha is very. It has this thing where, like, the mass and stuff, it very much is like, there's actual, like, superheroes. You get that a lot in Japan, too, where it's like they're playing, like, actual superheroes. So, like, yeah, of course he looks like Bible man. [01:14:00] Speaker B: It was. It did have a very, like, I. I not mauve, like an eggplant Ultraman kind of look to it, which I really. I really appreciated. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah, indeed. And he knows what he's doing. He's an actual, like, trained luchador, as is Conan. Like, Conan came from. We. We saw. Oh, God. Well, he was in WWE for a while, but he. He was working in. In Mexico. He actually now, like, runs one of the biggest federations in Mexico. [01:14:32] Speaker C: I liked him a lot. He was good. [01:14:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that. I like that fight a lot. [01:14:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:37] Speaker A: Great. Great wrestler. Horrible human every time. [01:14:45] Speaker B: Garrick, you got me again. [01:14:46] Speaker A: I got you. But, yeah, this match was great. Just head scissor after head scissor. I'm chanting, lucha, lucha. It was fucking awesome. Like, all this to say this match is amazing. And the commentary team has no idea how to call it. Basically, we're just gonna start seeing this issue as they continue to. To build out the cruiserweight division, and, like, the audience loves the cruiserweights, but these guys don't know how to say hula can ra. They, like. They don't. So eventually, they bring in this guy named Mike Tenay to basically teach them all the move names. And he is also, like, a weird, awkward old white guy, but he's a guy who's a nerd about this. And, like, he's been to Mexico and Japan, so he, like, knows the. And they kind of teach him. Bobby gets increasingly racist. Racist about not wanting to say the non American words out, unfortunately. But we'll see it happen. Case in point, they do some pinning combo. Bobby's like, I don't even know what to call that. There's arms and legs and feet everywhere inside. No way. He's like, I'm just an old wrestler dude. I don't know. But JL hits a DDT off the second rope. That should do it, but it's only good for two. And they. They go to, like, a. He tries to do another head scissor like he did earlier in the match, but Conan catches him and does what's. Basically, there's this guy, Bob Holly, who used to do this movie, called it an Alabama Slammer, and he just slams him down out of the thing for three. Like, just nothing fancy. I'm just going to hit you with the floor, basically. It's good for three, as it should be, but yeah, that was fun. That's another one. Like, if you don't watch all them go check out this one. This. This was definitely worth it. But Mago says call it the Buenos noes move, baby. Cuz it was good night for JL and I was like, braced for racism and instead I was like, oh, wait, no, that actually. Yeah, hell yeah. M was hitting his du lingo. Good on you, bud. Like, actually made sense. We love us an educated hoss. [01:16:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it was. It was a Peggy Hill level of stage. Exactly. [01:16:52] Speaker B: It really was. [01:16:52] Speaker A: It didn't sound like he was reading off a Taco Bell menu, which was more than I was expecting from Mongo. So, like, I gotta give credit to. Credit to that. [01:17:01] Speaker B: Wow. His moves are Fresca. [01:17:08] Speaker A: Back from commercial and. Holy. You guys got a Disco Inferno episode. I'm so sorry. [01:17:14] Speaker C: But why be sorry? I. I was a fan of it. [01:17:17] Speaker B: It gave me my new inspo. The Bootyman. [01:17:22] Speaker C: Well, okay, please don't cut to the booty man first because we need to talk about Disco Inferno. [01:17:28] Speaker B: We do not. [01:17:31] Speaker A: I will say this the. The greatest thing that this man ends up being known for in the long run besides being like the WCW's go to jobber. He's gotten burned to the ground on Twitter so many times, I can't even name him. He's such a. You'd think that maybe. Oh, maybe he's a good dude and this is just a cringy gimmick. No, he sucks that hard all the time. [01:17:54] Speaker C: Like, doing what, though? Like what. What's the cringe? Or is it like real bad? Like, you don't want to repeat it Bad. [01:18:00] Speaker A: Again, the series of this bit, call me Bitcoin. [01:18:05] Speaker C: He has. [01:18:06] Speaker A: He has terrible politics and opinions on wrestling at the same time anyway. And you like, tried to get in on like the podcast game because that's what a lot of. Yeah. Oh, God. All right, look, it's different. When I did it, I was never a pro wrestler. Okay? I'm not a. Has been. I was never was. All right, that's different. So like, they get to this point where, like, the best way to make money is to go tell shoot stories and like, real stories from the road and on podcast. So he tried to do that, but he's just insufferable and like, no one likes likes him. So people give him on the Internet and and like, he couldn't. He would just try to post through it and. And he would try to talk. And finally, like, Cody Rhodes, the guy was like the champion in the WWF right now. Before that, this was years ago, like, hopped on and was just like, you suck. You have always sucked. You shouldn't be giving opinions about anything because you suck. And you're a jobber from the 90s. You, like. And just, like, in as many words, and just. Was just burned him to the ground. And like, that's all the rest we need to know about. What's his name? Glenn Gilberti. The Disco Inferno. This guy. That. That's a. That could be a whole nother hate speech episode. Just this guy. [01:19:24] Speaker C: Now I know why they gave him the. [01:19:26] Speaker A: The. [01:19:27] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Just go. Inferno. [01:19:29] Speaker B: Imagine. Imagine if you will. [01:19:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:34] Speaker B: Being a muscular man. Supposedly straight. Supposedly. [01:19:41] Speaker A: There's rumors. [01:19:42] Speaker B: And your job is to fight other men in an entertaining way. [01:19:46] Speaker C: Yes. [01:19:47] Speaker B: And you train for this. You take drugs for this. You sacrifice comfort. [01:19:51] Speaker A: For this, you gain a relationship with Hulk Hogan for many years. [01:19:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:55] Speaker B: You abuse your body. You destroy your body. [01:19:59] Speaker C: Moral injury. [01:20:00] Speaker A: I mentioned the Hulk Hogan. [01:20:01] Speaker B: A deep. Yes, a deep pain in the soul. Like, that is who you are. And you get thrown on your ass by someone called the Booty Man. Now, to me, I like the sound of that. But to someone of that pedigree, that might be a bit embarrassing. [01:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, like. And yeah, Bootyman is Ed Leslie Disco is gonna do the job for. For Ed. Ed used to be Brutus the Barber beefcake in his heyday. He's. His whole claim to fame is that he's best friends with Hulk Hogan. Like, him. Him and Hulk got into at the same time. They were tag team guys that were like kayfabe brothers and all that. But, like, Hulk just sucked all the charisma out of this man over the years. Led to him, like, getting his face literally smashed in in a hang gliding accident. So he had to get, like, reconstructive. [01:20:58] Speaker B: Surgery and please, Garrick, we call it more smash than Princess Diana's car. [01:21:03] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus Christ. Quite literally. Like, his face was just broken the. Off it was up. [01:21:10] Speaker B: Well, good thing they focus on the Booty then, I guess, right? [01:21:13] Speaker A: They had to. But he came back. He was Zodiac for a while. But it's just one of those things where, like, he's never going to be a big thing ever again if he ever really was. But he has to be around at all times because Hulk says so. So, Booty man, you can't come back. [01:21:30] Speaker C: From the Booty Man. [01:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah, you're kind of. [01:21:32] Speaker C: Your career cannot recover from Booty Man. [01:21:35] Speaker A: I don't think he ever did. I think this is, like. I think this might have been the end of for Ed Leslie. [01:21:41] Speaker B: Actually, I looked up Bootyman on Google. [01:21:45] Speaker C: Before you learned about the Bootyman? [01:21:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:47] Speaker A: You're on a list now. Yeah. [01:21:49] Speaker B: And I searched Bootyman wrestler, and the most predominant picture in every article about Bootyman is taken from this match when the Booty Babe kisses his butt. [01:22:00] Speaker A: Oh, my God, the Booty. Poor Booty Babe. Booty Babe is Kimberly. Kimberly Page. She's the Booty Babe. Like we said earlier, Bobby says she looks like she's wearing a feather duster. And the only babe he knows is up for an Oscar. And he's a pig. To that. To that, I say, that'll do, weasel. That'll do. But before I can finish wiping the tears from my face whilst thinking of James Cromwell's character development, this match is just, like, over before it starts. [01:22:30] Speaker B: It was very fast, as is traditional. Rightfully. Rightfully so. That was fast. I was like, oh, we're watching a gimmick. [01:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah, right? And next thing you know, Bootyman is kissing Dallas Page's wife. But it's wrestling. [01:22:43] Speaker B: But this match threw out some excellent quotes. [01:22:47] Speaker C: Well, it ends up like. And here's my favorite part is, like, the narrative that's happening because I don't know what's happening in the storyline in Nitro, aside from the Macho man stuff, as it turns out, this is a quote that. Tyler, you were getting ready to pull up this quote. I think we're looking at the same. [01:22:59] Speaker B: We're looking at the same quote. [01:23:01] Speaker C: It's all yours. [01:23:02] Speaker B: Hulk Hogan sent the Bootyman to the Dungeon of Doom as a spy, and the Bootyman lived as a rat for over a year. [01:23:10] Speaker C: I can't believe this. I want to know more. I'm here next Monday to learn more about the Dungeon of Doom. [01:23:18] Speaker B: When the Bootyman came out, one of the announcers said, the Bootyman is in excellent condition. And I lost my fucking mind. [01:23:28] Speaker A: Right. Like, all these are sentences that they have to say. It's their job. Like, you have to say this out loud. Oh, my God, no. They're retroactively trying to make sense of why he was the Zodiac in the Dungeon of Doom for a year. And it's like, well, he was a spy for Hogan, and really, it's just like, it wasn't working. So now you're the Booty man, and if this doesn't work, you're my real. [01:23:51] Speaker C: Identity was the Booty Man. [01:23:52] Speaker B: Listen here. Listen here, Zodiac. I've seen your true soul. I know who you are. [01:23:58] Speaker A: Booty Man. [01:23:59] Speaker B: I'm the Booty Man. [01:24:01] Speaker A: Holy. Yeah. [01:24:03] Speaker C: How embarrassing for the Dungeon of Doom. [01:24:06] Speaker A: He got got by a booty man. Yeah. Oh, my God. But, y'all, I'm so excited for you guys because not only did you get Disco Inferno Day, you got an American Males episode. You get. [01:24:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:18] Speaker A: You get the excited experience of the greatest theme song ever. [01:24:24] Speaker B: It's. Yeah. I. So I learned something with this match with Lex Luger and Sting versus the American males is that Sting didn't always just steal the crow's makeup he used to have. He used to have color on his face. That's very interesting to me as a crow lover. [01:24:44] Speaker A: Yes. He used to be bleach blonde. You're seeing him mid. Mid transformation. It's like, oh, God. It's like Red Dragon, where he's got Philip Seymour Hoffman tied up and he's like, change. Do you see? [01:25:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:02] Speaker A: He used to be Surfer Sting when he first. Because Sting's a veteran at this point. He first came in, like, the mid-80s, and he had bleach blonde hair and that makeup, and he was bright neon colors, and he had, like, a surfboard, and he was Surfer Sting, bro. And he's trying to get out of it, basically. The real reason is, it turns out, is he started to lose his hair. Like, his hairline much like mine from years of bleaching it, like, real hard to keep that bleach blonde. Started to, like, not grow back as heavy, and he was like, fuck, I don't want to lose all my hair. [01:25:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:39] Speaker C: This is before they invented turkey, so. [01:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:41] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. This is before they invented hymns and various new ways for. For CIS folks to get hrt. But it's harder. So. Yeah, so, like, before all that, he. He grew his hair out to brown. He doesn't know what to do with himself because he's still like Surfer Sting, but he doesn't look like Surfer Sting. And. And it's gonna be a big deal story where he becomes crow Sting. Like, that's one of the bigger things to happen. It's. It's coming up where we are already beginning down the path towards crow sting at this point. [01:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Because this was 96, and the crow came out in 94, and it kind of had built the cult following. [01:26:24] Speaker C: You're so brave. [01:26:26] Speaker B: I am bitter. I am bitter. I love the crow and I. He's stealing Brandon Lee's valor. I said it. I got My gripe out. [01:26:33] Speaker A: There you go. Gripe it up. [01:26:34] Speaker B: Hate speech. [01:26:35] Speaker A: Here you go. [01:26:36] Speaker B: It's just. [01:26:36] Speaker C: I mean, Brandon Lee. Yeah. You shouldn't actually steal from that one. He gave all. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Randomly gave all. Yeah. [01:26:44] Speaker A: But there's a lot of backstory about how they came up with that. But, like, they very clearly. Like that. Yes. They were ripping off the crow. [01:26:53] Speaker B: Like, that's fine. Like, the crow rocks well. And he did it. [01:26:57] Speaker A: He did such a good. A good job. And his crow Sting character became so iconic that the guy who invented the crow was like, no, that's fine. You got it. Like, you. Like, he. And he understood that crow sting is. Is, like, almost canon in the fact that, like, it's just Sting died and he came back as the crow. Like, just like a crow would in my book. Like. [01:27:21] Speaker B: Right. [01:27:22] Speaker A: A guy died and came back as the crow. So as far as he's concerned, Sting crows cannon, like. [01:27:26] Speaker B: All right, here's my one Sting question. [01:27:29] Speaker A: All right. [01:27:29] Speaker B: What is that bit where he pulls up the Sting mask and he's wearing the Sting makeup underneath it? What is that about? [01:27:38] Speaker A: That is one of my favorite Sting bits. [01:27:41] Speaker B: Do you know this bit, Nate? [01:27:42] Speaker C: Absolutely not. [01:27:45] Speaker A: It's one of the best gifts ever. [01:27:46] Speaker C: Is it like sunglasses under sunglasses kind of thing? [01:27:48] Speaker B: Kinda, yeah, exactly, that. [01:27:51] Speaker A: It becomes this thing where, like. Because he, like, hides in the rafters and shit, then, like, people will. And he, like, doesn't wrestle or talk for, like, a year, right? So he's just scaring people by, like, you never know when he's going to show up in the baseball bat and kick my ass, you know, sort of thing. So, like, it became this fun thing where, like, there would be people I see showing him, so there'd be people wearing the Sting mask in the crowd. And then he does it all the. [01:28:21] Speaker B: Time, three or four times. [01:28:24] Speaker A: It's a reoccurring bit. But the first time is because it was almost like the V for Vendetta thing, because, like, people would wear the Sting mask and then Hogan would get all paranoid, like, rip the mask off of people planted in the crowd so he wouldn't get sued. And, like, oh, it's not actually him. Blah, blah, blah. So it was like a. They would be like, okay, well, it's just someone in a Sting mask trying to freak us out. So then he removes the mask, and it's actually him. [01:28:50] Speaker B: I love wrestling. I love wrestling. [01:28:54] Speaker A: It's so good. It is like. It makes sense in the moment, but out of context, it's like, what the fuck? [01:29:01] Speaker B: I kept seeing that Gif. And I'm like, what? Have I been wrong? Have I been wrong my entire life? The answer is yes. Yes, I have been. [01:29:09] Speaker A: Yes. Wrestling really is that good. [01:29:11] Speaker B: When James O'Barr can forgive Sting for stealing the crow, I can forgive Sting. Sting. I forgive no Sting. You're probably bad. I'm not falling down. I'm not falling in this trap again. [01:29:23] Speaker A: As far as I know. Except for the fact that he's still friends with Ric Flair. All the shit that Sting did bad, he has made amends for and has more or less been forgiven. [01:29:32] Speaker B: Okay. The lgbt. LGBTQ community tentatively forgives Sting. [01:29:41] Speaker A: I should hope so. There's so many of us queer Sting fans, like, if we kind of have to at this point, like, he's just so. He. I mean, he shows up and serves cunt for a year. That's what he does. He just shows up silently smoldering at you and making you scared with his presence. Like, that's gayest I've ever heard. I freak people out by existing all the time. It's amazing. But, yeah, no Sting. So there you go. In the meantime, this match is good enough. The Sting is currently stuck in this thing where he's the baby face race and Lex Luger is the heel, but they're champions. It's actually been kind of funny in the build up to this. They. They won the championship and they keep winning because Sting will get distracted and Lex will do a heel thing and cheat and win without his. The referee, his tag team partner seeing it. It's a funny little joke for a bit, but, like, it's. It's wearing on me. And this is a fun enough match. Luger looks pleased with himself and he high fives his best friend, smacks his titty for good luck. You know, the usual. [01:30:42] Speaker B: Just guy stuff. [01:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah, just guy stuff. Walker. Yeah. [01:30:45] Speaker C: Hanging out with the American males. [01:30:47] Speaker B: Yeah, American males. [01:30:50] Speaker A: Come and get you. Yeah. So their theme song sounds like a. It sounds like a Trey Parker, Matt Stone doing a. Making fun of a NE 90s wrestling theme song. [01:30:59] Speaker B: Yes, it does. [01:31:00] Speaker A: So good. So Peg, Walt, Sting happen. Have fun. I guess Sting's like a mentor of his. That's the first I've heard of it. But they start to give us a little bit of story here, which is kind of great because, like, oh, they're having a good, respectful time. And then Lex comes in and just beats the out of them like an ass. Like, just goes extra and pisses him off. And it's. It's moving forward. The. The odd couple story. There's not much to it, though. Eventually, Sting hits his cross body for the three huge crossbody. I'll give him that. Lex wants to leave right away because he's a heel. [01:31:34] Speaker B: He's a villain. Yeah, yeah, he's a villain. [01:31:36] Speaker A: So Sting raises the male's hands to show respect. They're American, they're males. We gotta love them. And, you know, it's a nice. [01:31:43] Speaker B: It's government mandated now again, now we. [01:31:48] Speaker C: Have to love the American. [01:31:49] Speaker B: We have to love the American males now. [01:31:51] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. I don't want to. You can't make me. [01:31:56] Speaker C: Okay, but only if they're wearing that. That, like, cool cross earring. [01:32:00] Speaker A: Yeah, Only if they look like those American girls. [01:32:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:03] Speaker C: I'm gonna get my tips frosted. [01:32:05] Speaker B: Yeah. If you look like Lorenzo Lamas from Renegade, we love you. [01:32:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:11] Speaker A: Yep. So some things never change. That's great. But, you know, nice little filler match next. We get Giant versus Nature Boy for the main event, which is going to end with a mess. There's no way. It doesn't. Doesn't end with. There's no way. Because I'm like, what is this match gonna be? I can't imagine these two working in a way that makes any kind of sense. [01:32:33] Speaker B: It. It was so nice seeing, like, Ric Flair be this awful, like, mean piece of. In his promo halfway through the show. And then for this entire match, he's begging and pleading and crying not to be stepped on. [01:32:47] Speaker A: That's why he's the best to ever do it. [01:32:49] Speaker B: As much as I hate him, I was like, God damn, this guy. Like, he. Like, you can't beat a guy who's what, 74? [01:32:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:57] Speaker B: Like, how do you. [01:32:58] Speaker A: They say he's more like seven foot, but. [01:33:00] Speaker B: Right. But still, it's like, God damn, that was such a good, effective bit. [01:33:05] Speaker A: Right? He's Captain Insano. What do you do against Captain Insano? So, like, Rick comes back out with the girls and he's. He's trying. They give away the money, which I think is pretty great. But we're getting into. Into the. Like I said before, it's my favorite era of macho man because he tries to jump him and gets held back. He's the unhinged hos. Savage. Modern fans would recognize this as what hangman Adam Page is currently going through. Burning down a home cowboy. Like, real it all. I want my revenge. So this is good. We get the first tell of Nitro Parties, which is gonna become a thing where they send, like, a guy. They send literally the voice of Tony the Tiger Lee. Marshall. It. It becomes a like roving reporter for Nitro. And he calls in over the phone. He's like, I'm at a nitro party. We're doing shots. And like, it. It's so ridiculous. But Eric says that Jeff Krueger and Cody, Wyoming is having a nitro party. Trying to make it seem like this is like an organic things that the fans did. Wait, I'm getting word. Eric Bischoff now react resides in Cody, Wyoming, and probably knows Jeff. Okay, cool. I love this. It's. They're all full of. And it's amazing. And at the time, this, I. I love watching this with hindsight too, because at the time people be like, oh, wow, that's cool. Now I'm like, wait, Cody, Wyoming, I know that that's where Bischoff you. Eric, that's. It's probably like your second cousin or some like, hey, you. Meanwhile, this match that I do not know what to. What to expect from is just kind of happening and it's really great. Like, Rick tries to shoulder block him and just bounces. [01:34:43] Speaker B: I like, I like anytime he tries something, the giant just lifts him over his head and throws him down. [01:34:51] Speaker C: That's kind of what I thought the Undertaker would be like. Because when you say like, oh, like, that's a proper no sell where it's not only like this. This hit does no damage. It's like, I'm gonna get matter because of this. [01:35:01] Speaker A: Yeah, Hulk. Yeah, it's like actual Hulk. Like the Hulk. Not Hulk, right? Yeah, not Terry. You Terry. He's like, brother, I heard you. Yeah, you called me out. I'm just. My time. I'm running it. But no, that's how Undertaker should be. [01:35:15] Speaker C: And like, right, this annoying little fly is buzzing around my head. [01:35:20] Speaker A: Like, at one point, he gets him down on his knees and keeps hitting him. And Giant, like, throws him off with just one hand. [01:35:26] Speaker B: Yes. [01:35:27] Speaker A: Pushes him off. And it's like, this is great. [01:35:30] Speaker B: And like, the giant climbs up on the top rope and jumps on him. [01:35:35] Speaker C: It's like, that's scary for a big guy up there. [01:35:39] Speaker A: He's only done it, I think twice that I remember. He. He did it once before and every time people lose their minds because, like, yeah, you shouldn't be up there. Too big for that. And like, even if he didn't move, he would have missed him because, like, he. If he. If he lays, if he extends the full splash, that's like the size of the ring, you know? [01:35:59] Speaker B: And it's like all those guys rush up on him and he Just one by one, lifts them up and throws them down. It's so badass. [01:36:09] Speaker A: Rick tries all of his heel. He tries to get like woman to choke him. He gets like a piece of cord to choke him out with and shoves it back in his pants like you do. [01:36:18] Speaker C: Which I enjoyed the said. This is all new to me, right? [01:36:21] Speaker B: Yeah, this is all brand new. [01:36:22] Speaker C: I don't know Ric Flair and like him just kind of like stashing like this like chain in his crotch. I'm just like, they'll never know. [01:36:30] Speaker A: They'll never know. [01:36:32] Speaker B: Yeah, the ref's too busy talking to woman. What a stupid ref. [01:36:39] Speaker C: She's allowed to do that because she's not in the ring. [01:36:41] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. That's Bobby's logic. Well, yeah, she's outside there, she's on the apron. It don't count. [01:36:46] Speaker C: You checks out to me. [01:36:47] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Bobby will always cape for Rick. Ric Flair is Bobby's guy. They, they have history. Like Ric Flair is Bobby's guy. Whenever Bobby, whenever Ric Flair is a baby face and technically Bobby is supposed to be against him. He just can't like, he can't bring himself to be mean to Ric Flair. It's his boy. But yeah, sure enough, it's a cluster. He's not going to beat him. He's a giant. So, you know, Arn Anderson comes up and hits him with the chair to defend his friend. And like these guys are theoretically aligned at this moment like the, the Dungeon of Doom and the Four Horsemen. So the Four Horsemen are. Is like Ric Flair's guys. And that's like Arne Anderson, that shop teacher looking dude. And then you got the Dungeon of Gooners with Taskmaster and the giant and all the basically all the of freaks, you know, and they're supposed to be together. So Ar though like throws the chair to Taskmaster, like he did it. [01:37:48] Speaker C: Which was funny. [01:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:37:50] Speaker B: They pull that off and the giant just him up and then he turns around, points at the other guy. He's like, I know. You did just him up so good too. [01:37:59] Speaker A: It's so good. This finally the Giants, like he has this King Kong moment where he's like, I am done being played with. And it just destroys everyone. So like as far as a cluster nitro ending goes, not a terrible one. [01:38:11] Speaker B: Like that really pleased me and it was fun. [01:38:14] Speaker C: Like it was like Looney Tunes. I like, I love that. [01:38:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [01:38:18] Speaker C: Like the, the whole bit of just like, no, he did it. Like I was just like, yes, this is entertainment. [01:38:25] Speaker B: This is what, this is how we do it. [01:38:27] Speaker C: Yeah, we're doing a show right now. [01:38:28] Speaker B: Learn something wrong. Raw. [01:38:30] Speaker A: Yeah, learn something wrong. Exactly. Like, that's old school. Like, everything in that match was old. Old. Like, carney wrestling tricks. All the heel, the hiding in his. All that is, like, stuff that they've done. The. The, you know, freaking, you know, the switching it out is a thing that's been done. One of my favorite guys to do it, Eddie Guerrero, later in his career, he gets this thing where his whole thing is to lie, cheat, and steal, right? Like, he's gonna win by any means necessary. And he's doing heel. But people love him for it because he's like. Like. Oh, like, cartoony, like you said. It's like, I got him. So my favorite things he ever would do is he would get a chair and then, like. Like, smack it. Like, make the sound. And then, like. Like. [01:39:24] Speaker C: Like he got hit. Okay. Yeah. [01:39:26] Speaker A: Behind the ref's back, and then he would throw it to his opponent, who would catch it, and then he would throw himself down, like he got slammed, and that would get the ref's attention to turn around and be like, oh, you hit him with a chair. I. I get. [01:39:40] Speaker C: I get that that isn't, like, sports entertainment technically, right? Like, you know, like, nobody's. Nobody's really gonna get hurt doing that. But, like, to me, as someone who's new, who might be, like, turning, tuning in for the first time on tnt, right, and just seeing, like, oh, what's this about? Like, I loved it. It was great. [01:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:57] Speaker C: Like, you know, and, like, I don't know how old that stuff gets, right? [01:40:01] Speaker A: But, like, exactly. [01:40:03] Speaker C: Timeless to me. I don't know. [01:40:04] Speaker A: And. But stuff like that is timeless because you still get it. Like, Eddie Guerrero was doing that bit I described in, like, 2005. So it's like this. The. It's. It's. What's great about wrestling is the. The shared continuity, not just of the stories, but of the skills and of the tricks of the trade so that you get stuff like that, and then someone doesn't do it for a while, and then they pull it out, and it's like, oh, that's great. I forgot how great that is, you know? And you can get whole generations because you get new people who aren't aware of it, who, like, you said that you watch this, and you're like, that was funny. And it's like, yeah, and it's time. It's tried and tested, you know, it's time. Tested, tested. It's been great since people were doing it in in carnivals, you know. [01:40:49] Speaker C: And, like, the. The other thing about this fight, too, that I really appreciate is it was my first real, actual, like, big guy overpowering fight. I mean, like, because, like, the thing about the Undertaker that doesn't quite work for me is that, like, yeah, he would know, sell the hits, right. But then he would just, like, also just kind of do his basic moveset. [01:41:06] Speaker A: He didn't have any power moves, you know? [01:41:08] Speaker C: Well, and there's no, like, strong, strong reaction to it, too. Like, the cool thing about this fight is, like, the annoyance that the Giant was selling on his face. [01:41:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:41:16] Speaker C: Like, there was actual acting that was happening from the Giant. [01:41:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:19] Speaker C: Just like. [01:41:20] Speaker A: And nobody begs. Nobody begs not to get their ass kicked like Ric Flair. And so you get the combo of both of them doing a really good job. And it was a fun match from something I was not expecting to be any good. Like, was actually really, really great and a hell of a way to end Nitro. Like, way better than. And that was the Go home Raw. That was the Last RAW before WrestleMania. That's supposed to be, like, one of their biggest shows of the year. And, like, it was okay. There wasn't a lot going on. I did not have nearly as much fun as I did for Nitro. But, yeah, we did it. We got through both episodes, guys. [01:41:59] Speaker B: We did it. [01:42:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:42:00] Speaker A: So I have. [01:42:01] Speaker B: I was here. I was here the whole time. I never left to pee. [01:42:05] Speaker A: I never saw. I didn't see. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. [01:42:09] Speaker C: There is some. There's some, like, water, I think. [01:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I did not see. I saw this. I didn't see any, but thank y'all for. For putting up with two hours of 90s wrestling. I hope you go back for more. And then I continue to sicken your minds. A few more questions, though, as I like to ask best guests. Did you have a favorite match of the week? [01:42:31] Speaker C: I like the Ric Flair one, actually. Like, the more I kind of sit with it, the more that feels timeless in, like, you know. [01:42:39] Speaker B: Yeah, this. [01:42:39] Speaker C: This kind of prototypical match could have happened at any time in history of, like, small, cowardly guy fights. It fights a big man. I'm like, yeah, no, I understand wrestling now. [01:42:49] Speaker B: There's totally there. I got a lot from most of them. I agree with what you said, but it was nice, for the first time in my life to actually see the Macho man fight. I had never seen a Macho man match before. That was a lot of fun. Apparently the guy can just do that, and that's cool as hell. But my, my overall favorite. I don't know. I. It's either the Conan JL match or the Brett Michaels match. [01:43:24] Speaker A: I. Oh yeah, the, the, the Bret Hart versus what's his name? [01:43:29] Speaker B: Sorry, Shawn Michael. Sean Michael. The opening one of these ponytail, long haired guys. They all look the same to me. [01:43:38] Speaker A: That's, that's fine. And not racist. It's true. [01:43:40] Speaker B: I was, I was just, I was like, oh my God. Like I could get why some people would joke that this is gay, but when I saw Shawn Michaels do his little twirls come out with this camera and the chaps, it's like fellas, fellas. [01:43:55] Speaker A: He ends up posing in Playgirl. [01:43:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:58] Speaker A: And like Bret Hart turns heel at one point and like straight up calls him like gay basically. Like, I think you're kind of fruity. I think you're some sort of quirk. And, and like they play it up and then like him and him and Hunter like play up this, this thing of them maybe being bi, you know, but not real. And it's funny because like irl, they're a bunch of queer phobes. Like, like Shawn Michaels is a born again Texan Christian. Like, like, and like Paul's probably a Nazi. Like so like. [01:44:31] Speaker C: But then again like thou protest too much. Right. Maybe they're overcompensating for something. [01:44:38] Speaker A: Exactly. It's also toxic and masculine, you know, like, yeah, don't know what to do do with that. [01:44:43] Speaker B: I think I liked Nitro a lot more because it was more trashy and honest and not built around Vince McMahon, which you feel and you hear. Like every bit of raw is Vince McMahon because he's talking throughout all of it and it's all about him and what he's doing and it's even clearly. [01:45:02] Speaker A: Coming from his psyche. [01:45:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Whereas like Nitro is just like what the fuck is going to happen happen next. [01:45:09] Speaker C: Even, even the audience in Nitro was like more into it and more just kind of like people that you would see in these towns. Like, you know, like the tickets were probably cheaper. Like it wasn't a traveling show. Right. Was my impression. Like they didn't take. [01:45:23] Speaker A: They, they do, they try, they travel city to city, they'll do house shows in between. But then it's a different city. Live every Monday. [01:45:34] Speaker C: Okay, okay, okay, okay, never mind then. But like, you know, it just, the energy was, was more like real and it was live. [01:45:42] Speaker A: Monday. Nitro or Raw wasn't live yet at this point. Raw is still taped except for like Once a month they do a live one. [01:45:49] Speaker B: The Nitro story, such as it was, felt a little more organic and built in and not forced. Not forced as much as raw. And it was. Was so schlocky and so trashy that it was just. That's extremely my. [01:46:06] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think. I think we're all in agreement on who won this week. It was Nitro and I think it's because Raw. How did you put it? Raw was trashy and dishonest whereas Nitro was trashy and honest. [01:46:21] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [01:46:23] Speaker A: That's the difference. [01:46:24] Speaker B: Like it didn't have. It didn't have the sheen and artifice this of trying to be something it wasn't. [01:46:30] Speaker A: I want my wrestling to be a little trashy and that's why I like Nitro so hard. [01:46:34] Speaker B: And the guys had big foreheads like, I'm sorry, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart. Hart, Hamilton Harsley, Hemsland, whatever. Triple H, you're all too pretty. You're too pretty and too beefy. The Belfast Beater or whatever. Yeah, the Belfast Bruiser looked like a. He looked like just a guy who was like a big meaty guy. Like, he wasn't over pumped. I'm sure he was. He was over pumped. [01:47:03] Speaker C: But was it the singlet? [01:47:04] Speaker B: He was an ugly big guy and it rocked. He didn't look like Triple H, who was a little dandy Vega without the mask. [01:47:12] Speaker A: He was not Vega without the mask. I like, stick with me for. [01:47:17] Speaker B: I like Triple H. My wrestlers to be big, weird, ugly guys who've been pumped full of every goddamn chemical. They don't need to be pretty. I don't care. [01:47:26] Speaker C: They don't need to be muscular. Like, I like the like kind of like layer of fat. The protective fat. [01:47:32] Speaker B: Yes. [01:47:32] Speaker C: There, that helps you because like, we know they're strong. It's fine. We don't need to see like zero fat, rippling muscles. [01:47:40] Speaker A: Like Vader is a big fat guy, but also will rip you apart with his bare hands. [01:47:45] Speaker B: Cuz he's exactly. [01:47:47] Speaker A: Kingpin. [01:47:49] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. I don't need all my wrestlers to look like Kumail in the Eternals now. It's weird. I don't need it. [01:47:58] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's what Vince wants, damn it. And there's nothing strange for us to like read into about that. [01:48:04] Speaker B: Not a thing. Not a thing. [01:48:05] Speaker A: Not a thing. And it won't show up in how. [01:48:08] Speaker B: Okay, I got to change my answer. I'm sorry. Gold dust. [01:48:11] Speaker A: Gold dust. [01:48:13] Speaker C: That wasn't a match. [01:48:14] Speaker A: That wasn't a match. [01:48:16] Speaker B: There was a fight happening within Me. [01:48:20] Speaker A: Who won match of the week was your sexuality versus gold dust. I can't think of a better thing to end on. That's amazing. So please, thank you, folks. Let our listeners know where they can find you and thus me for one episode. [01:48:41] Speaker B: Yeah, you can. You can find us on any podcast platform and you can listen to it on YouTube as well. It's called hate speech Podcast. We know how that sounds. [01:48:49] Speaker C: No, it's the good kind of hate speech. [01:48:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:48:53] Speaker B: Where we. And sometimes a guest. Garrick was a very lovely guest. Talk about something that we hate. Sometimes we hate the thing. Sometimes we don't hate the thing. We try to make you hate the thing. Some things like, you know, coffee, big trucks, the musical. Hamilton. [01:49:09] Speaker C: Hitler. [01:49:10] Speaker B: Hitler. [01:49:13] Speaker A: And in my case, Mark Calloway. Yeah. [01:49:15] Speaker B: The undertaker. [01:49:16] Speaker A: We. [01:49:17] Speaker B: So we'll tackle pretty much just about anything. Slide into my DMs. I'll slide into your DMs. We'll find something. [01:49:24] Speaker A: Indeed. 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Your both your Blue sky handles are like basically your wrestling gimmicks. You got Baroners and Butzilla, you know? [01:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Like the new American males. [01:50:35] Speaker C: I'm starting to go with booty, man. [01:50:40] Speaker B: I could change it. [01:50:41] Speaker A: Booty zilla. There you go. You're the final form of Ed Leslie. Oh, well, thank you all for hanging out. That was a blast. And thank y'all for listening. Go listen to hate speech. It is super fun. And you can continue to find us on Blue sky because it's the only thing I do. Socials. Wise manffpod. Bsky Social. You can no longer find us on Instagram. It's still there, but I will not be updating it. And if you want to join, you can join the [email protected] mnffpod we'll be doing lots of watch parties of paper reviews. You two are invited to those now. Yay. [01:51:17] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:51:18] Speaker A: And you know, do the Mystery Science Theater talking back at Matlock thing at. 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I got shareholders now. Oh, look at what capitalism has wrought. [01:52:17] Speaker B: But I was just. I was trying to channel my inner Vince McMahon and like, try to put the pressure. Nope, never mind. We're not doing that. [01:52:23] Speaker A: No. Are you trying to put me out of business? Damn it. Oh. But we will see the rest of you next time for more Raw versus Nitro. How Monday Night Fake Fights. K Bomb. [01:52:36] Speaker B: Goodbye. [01:52:47] Speaker A: Ghost Co Studios. Thanks for listening.